signs of American decline
max
don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
inelegant solution.
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Huey
beta...@gmail.com says...
>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>
>
>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>inelegant solution.
>
>
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Brent P
> 1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>
>
> don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
> damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
> inelegant solution.
Government bailing the connected out with taxpayer money (collected
through taxes or by inflation) prevents the need for suicide of those
responsible.
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
<snip>
Why jump? I think they are all just waiting for their golden parachutes like
the CEO's from Freddie and Fannie May...
Bankruptcy can still lead to some pretty good payouts... plus there is lots
of stuff laying around... (I knew someone who was an officer of a company
that went bankrupt and he was taking sofa's and stuff from his office home
saying they didn't need it anymore... I think artwork was where they drew
the line...)
That said, my stocks are more up than down today... heck, even my Ford stock
is up so far today...
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tert in seattle
hey Brent... have you heard the theory that Kenny Lay faked his death
and got plastic surgery and he lives in Paraguay now?
Brent P
that wasn't a favored business. Sucide was still an option.
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>well, with no golden parachutes to save them...
><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091401698.html>
Will be interesting to see what happens (if we ever hear...)
"...It is unknown whether FHFA intends to block all compensation and benefits
due Mudd and Syron, or only part of them. ..."
I imagine it will be challenged in court... unless they only block a tiny
portion...
dye
max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>
>
>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>inelegant solution.
I wouldn't put trains down as an honorable way to go. If you
want to off yourself, fine...but do you have to ruin 100's of
other people's day?
--Ken
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max
d...@transam.sbcglobal.net (dye) wrote:
> In article <betatron-C13CBB...@news.ftupet.com>,
> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
> >
> >
> >don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
> >damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
> >inelegant solution.
>
> I wouldn't put trains down as an honorable way to go. If you
> want to off yourself, fine...but do you have to ruin 100's of
> other people's day?
>
> --Ken
good point!
.max
Aaron M. Renn
>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>inelegant solution.
A parachute not opening - that's the way to die, getting caught in a
combine, having your nuts bit off by a Laplander. That's the way I want to go.
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My urban affairs and transportation blog: http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/
jamie
Aaron M. Renn <ar...@shell3.eng.sun.com> wrote:
>In article <betatron-C13CBB...@news.ftupet.com>, max wrote:
>>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>>inelegant solution.
>
>A parachute not opening - that's the way to die, getting caught in a
>combine, having your nuts bit off by a Laplander. That's the way I want to go.
Howdy, stranger! Good to see you back.
Jamie
jamie
dye <dy...@adsl-69-209-52-7.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>In article <betatron-C13CBB...@news.ftupet.com>,
>max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>
>>
>>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>>inelegant solution.
>
>I wouldn't put trains down as an honorable way to go. If you
>want to off yourself, fine...but do you have to ruin 100's of
>other people's day?
And, even worse, give the engineer nightmares for the rest of his/her
life. I'd say that's worse than inconveniencing the passengers for a
few hours.
Jamie
Aaron M. Renn
>Howdy, stranger! Good to see you back.
Time for my bi-annual contribution to the forum.
max
wrote:
i am doubly convinced.
wait! i have it -- they have a zoological garden uptown in their
rectangular park facility... with polar bears. Certainly Thalarctos
maritimus is not known to harbor inappropriate guilt; we might even
consider this theraputic for them the in the wake of Bear
Stearns...where one door closes, another one opens...
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>>inelegant solution.
>A parachute not opening - that's the way to die, getting caught in a
>combine, having your nuts bit off by a Laplander. That's the way I want to go.
Nobody gives laplanders any respect... (note: I'm not a laplander, I'm from
southern Sweden)
Hey, more historic lows today...
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080917/investor_risk_fallen_money_fund.html
Money-market fund dips below safety benchmark
Wednesday September 17, 11:55 am ET
By Mark Jewell
Fund 'breaks the buck,' only second time in history of money-market funds
'...Reserve said Tuesday night that "unprecedented market events of the past
several days" had reduced the value of the fund's holdings to 97 cents
for each $1 put in by investors -- an event known as "breaking the buck."
Investors who put in orders to remove money from the fund before Tuesday
afternoon will get their money back at $1.00 a share. As for redemption
orders that came in after 3 p.m. EDT on Tuesday, the amount they get back
depends on the fund's daily share price calculated at 5 p.m. -- a price
that could vary depending on the performance of the fund's investments,
and ability to raise capital to bring the asset level back up.
.
.
.
According to the company's Web site, the Primary fund held $62 billion as
of June 30 -- an amount that is likely smaller after Lehman's collapse.
The Primary fund was the very first money-market fund when introduced in
1970. ...'
That's a lot of pennies wiped out...
tert in seattle
Brent P
>> That's a lot of pennies wiped out...
> in honor of Jon Nelson I bought five shares of SKF on Monday
My latest product will be using INA and NTN bearings. Too bad for SKF.
Their lead times were too long.
tert in seattle
fucken Blennie - cracks me up
he's no aAsdamj Kerman though......
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
Will they be negatively affected by this?
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080917/shortselling_sec.html
"Reuters
SEC tightens rules on short sales
Wednesday September 17, 10:07 pm ET
By Rachelle Younglai and Svea Herbst-Bayliss
WASHINGTON/GREENWICH, Connecticut (Reuters) - U.S. securities regulators
tightened rules on traders who profit from stock declines as shares plummeted
Wednesday on fears of a global credit crunch. ..."
Hey, by the way, do I misspell your name?
Why the hate?
I've got 20 years for my 401k to come back, but for those that are a little
closer toward retirement, this isn't good... many took early retirement at
large companies and can't collect social security yet (or would face reduced
payments)... they are counting on their investments to live on...
A bunch of our kids have 529 funds. One that we toyed with cashing out last
year we decided to let ride because they were down last year... figured we'd
cash it out this year... what they said about cashing out losing funds early
is true... we should have cashed it out then as I don't think it's going to
make it back up, even if she decides to go for a PhD for the amount it's lost
now, although I suppose we don't need to worry about a tax liabilty since
it's worth less than half it was in 2001...
If your looking at buying college funding today I'd go for a coverdale, it
doesn't have a high return, but your principal is safe...
tert in seattle
no ... they don't actually short ... they use futures and derivatives,
and fairy dust
SKF is being negatively affected by the RTC time-buying announcement though
> Hey, by the way, do I misspell your name?
> Why the hate?
don't confuse absence of love with hate
once you are as funny as Adamn Kerman, I will love you then
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
I saw they were down a little over 13% today, i did notice they are down
more than 50% from their 52 week high though... sometimes companies start
to do stupid things to bring themselves back up, hopefully that won't
happen in this case...
>> Hey, by the way, do I misspell your name?
>> Why the hate?
>don't confuse absence of love with hate
ok, but take it easy on the laplanders, they were once an oppressed minority
in Sweden and Norway but they are doing better now...
>once you are as funny as Adamn Kerman, I will love you then
I guess the status quo isn't that bad then...
tert in seattle
> tert in seattle <te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>no ... they don't actually short ... they use futures and derivatives,
>>and fairy dust
>
>>SKF is being negatively affected by the RTC time-buying announcement though
>
> I saw they were down a little over 13% today, i did notice they are down
> more than 50% from their 52 week high though... sometimes companies start
> to do stupid things to bring themselves back up, hopefully that won't
> happen in this case...
this "company" doesn't have to do anything but wait for reality to set in
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
Yep, we'll see if it causes a bigger drop later;
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080919/sec_short_selling.html
"...As a result, restricting the practice could inflate the value of some
stocks, opening the door for a big downward correction later.
"Without offering a flip-side to the price-discovery mechanism, I think
there's a pressure built up in stock prices that only gets relieved in a
great cataclysm," he said. ..."
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
I don't think there is honor in it at all...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/06/california.murder.suicide/index.html
"... One of the letters, intended for friends and marked 'personal and
confidential,' detailed his financial transactions that resulted in
'an unfortunate, downward spiral,' Moore said.
'His narrative is one of talking about this tragedy befalling him and
his contemplation of an available exit or solution,' Moore said. 'One
is taking his own life and the other is taking the lives of his family
and himself. ... He talked himself into the second strategy, believing
that was, in effect, the honorable thing to do.' ..."
tert in seattle
> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>
>
> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/06/california.murder.suicide/index.html
>
> "... One of the letters, intended for friends and marked 'personal and
> confidential,' detailed his financial transactions that resulted in
> 'an unfortunate, downward spiral,' Moore said.
>
> 'His narrative is one of talking about this tragedy befalling him and
> his contemplation of an available exit or solution,' Moore said. 'One
> is taking his own life and the other is taking the lives of his family
> and himself. ... He talked himself into the second strategy, believing
> that was, in effect, the honorable thing to do.' ..."
the animal uprising can't come soon enough
Geoff Gass
> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>
> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
fucktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
trains like happened in the '29.
tert in seattle
it's okay Goeff...Jon's just fuckin with .max
max
Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
ya!
i have some 16" Japanese fish cutting knives i could donate to the cause.
.max
Blatt Mack
> In article <slrngen3...@ftupet.ftupet.com>,
> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>
>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> > max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>> >
>> > I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>>
>> he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>> fucktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>> trains like happened in the '29.
>
> ya!
>
> i have some 16" Japanese fish cutting knives i could donate to the cause.
what good are knives that only cut 16" Japanese fish??
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>
>> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>trains like happened in the '29.
"... He talked himself into the second strategy, believing that was,
in effect, the honorable thing to do. ..."
Of course, the honorable thing to do is to face up to events and not run
from them... or in the case of AIG, head to the spa cause the bailout is
here...
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>
>> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>trains like happened in the '29.
Well, lets try an example...
Lets say Investor Aaa has lost all the money his family has in the market.
Do you think the honorable thing for investor Aaa to do is to kill himself
and let his family suffer thru poverty and possibly go on welfare (if they
can qualify), or would the honorable thing for Investor Aaa to do be get a
job and continue to care for his family, even thought they'll probably suffer
thru hard times for a while?
I'd say, the honorable thing to do is get over it and get a job...
Brent P
> In article <slrngen3...@ftupet.ftupet.com>,
> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>
>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>> > max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>> >
>> > I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>>
>> he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>> fucktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>> trains like happened in the '29.
>
> ya!
>
> i have some 16" Japanese fish cutting knives i could donate to the cause.
I hear there is a picture of a protest on wall street where some guy is
holding a big sign that reads "JUMP F*CKERS!"
Not finding it on google though. Just this on a protest regarding the
bailout:
http://gothamist.com/2008/09/26/wall_street_protest_over_bailout_pl.php
And for more comic relief:
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2952
"Damn It Feels Good To Be a Banksta"
Brent P
> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>>
>>> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>
>>he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>>f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>>trains like happened in the '29.
>
> Well, lets try an example...
>
> Lets say Investor Aaa has lost all the money his family has in the market.
> Do you think the honorable thing for investor Aaa to do is to kill himself
> and let his family suffer thru poverty and possibly go on welfare (if they
> can qualify), or would the honorable thing for Investor Aaa to do be get a
> job and continue to care for his family, even thought they'll probably suffer
> thru hard times for a while?
>
> I'd say, the honorable thing to do is get over it and get a job...
Governments are fond of work camps for us ordinary people.... might be a
suitible way for the banksters to pay off their debts.
max
Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> >Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> >> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
> >>
> >> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>
> >he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
> >f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
> >trains like happened in the '29.
>
> Well, lets try an example...
>
> Lets say Investor Aaa has lost all the money his family has in the market.
> Do you think the honorable thing for investor Aaa to do is to kill himself
> and let his family suffer thru poverty and possibly go on welfare (if they
> can qualify), or would the honorable thing for Investor Aaa to do be get a
> job and continue to care for his family, even thought they'll probably suffer
> thru hard times for a while?
>
> I'd say, the honorable thing to do is get over it and get a job...
great post, Mr. Buzzkill.
Brent P
> when was the last time anybody was breaking rocks or printing licenses for
> us?
I didn't say any were in use in the US, just that governments (in
general) are fond of them. It's not like they've vanished from the
planet.
Even in the US the idea still gets floated today. There are some
prisoner work programs out there. They go by modern names and are
different in everything but having prisioners work.
If you're looking for a modern version that still fits classic
appearances in the US there is that wacky power mad sheriff out
in AZ that brought back chain gangs and such.
Kristian M Zoerhoff
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>>
>>> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>
>>he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>>f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>>trains like happened in the '29.
>
> Well, lets try an example...
>
> Lets say Investor Aaa has lost all the money his family has in the market.
> Do you think the honorable thing for investor Aaa to do is to kill himself
> and let his family suffer thru poverty and possibly go on welfare (if they
> can qualify), or would the honorable thing for Investor Aaa to do be get a
> job and continue to care for his family, even thought they'll probably suffer
> thru hard times for a while?
Depends on his life insurance policy.
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tert in seattle
it's bankstas, dumbass
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
I would expect most policies have a clause on them to prevent payout for such
a thing... heck, my homeowners policy had a $500 limit on tree damage that I
didn't realize until the tree fell over on the house... quite a bit more
expensive than $500 to have a 60-70 footer removed...
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Brent P wrote:
>work camps?
>when was the last time anybody was breaking rocks or printing licenses for
>us?
Joe Someone in Arizona or New Mexico runs on... he's quite proud of his
programs where the prisoners live in tents, wear all pink and get Bologna
sandwiches every day...
You'd prefer them to go to spas?
Brent P
> Brent P wrote:
>> Governments are fond of work camps for us ordinary people.... might be a
>> suitible way for the banksters to pay off their debts.
> it's bankstas, dumbass
Both are in common usage, moron. (notice I've used both)
http://www.google.com/search?q=bankster
tert in seattle
fucken wix
I love this guy
core
<j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> max <beta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>>>
>>> I don't think there is honor in it at all...
>
>>he said honorable suicides, not dishonorable murder-suicides, you
>>f@#ktard. He means like people jumping out windows or in front of
>>trains like happened in the '29.
>
>Well, lets try an example...
>
>Lets say Investor Aaa has lost all the money his family has in the market.
>Do you think the honorable thing for investor Aaa to do is to kill himself
>and let his family suffer thru poverty and possibly go on welfare (if they
>can qualify), or would the honorable thing for Investor Aaa to do be get a
>job and continue to care for his family, even thought they'll probably suffer
>thru hard times for a while?
Depends on how much life insurance he's carrying
Geoff Gass
Chicago Paddling-Fishing
>1. Notable lack of honorable suicides today.
>don't the windows in manhattan highrises open any more? what about the
>damn roof access? Failing that, subway trains are a servicable if
>inelegant solution.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Brazil-trader-shoots-self-on-apf-13597937.html
Brazil trader shoots himself on stock exchange trading floor
* Monday November 17, 2008, 4:02 pm EST
SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- A stock exchange trader has shot himself on the
trading floor in Brazil.
Sao Paulo's Bovespa stock exchange says the 36-year-old man shot himself in
the chest a couple of hours before markets closed in South America's biggest
city.
The Bovespa statement says Paulo Sergio Silva was taken to a hospital, but his
condition was not immediately available.
It was not clear if he shot himself due to the recent sharp losses in Brazilian
stocks or for other reasons.
Trading was halted for a few minutes after the shot was fired on Monday.