Michigan Avenue Mimes

HarmCo

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What do you think of Them?
Do you have any good stories about Them?
Which one is better, "the Tin man" or the "Statue Guy"?
Please post your responses to this discussion Group.

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What do you think of
Them?
 Do you have any good
stories about Them?
 Which one is better,
"the Tin man" or the "Statue Guy"?
 Please post your
responses to this discussion Group.

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Erika

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97

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In article <34216BD4...@ix.netcom.com>, Har...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> What do you think of Them?
> Do you have any good stories about Them?
> Which one is better, "the Tin man" or the "Statue Guy"?
> Please post your responses to this discussion Group.

They all suck. Mime is the most useless of all art forms.

Erika

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Erika wrote:
[snip]

> They all suck. Mime is the most useless of all art forms.

You give them too much credit by even associating
them with the term 'art forms'.

About as useful as some of those neo-impressionist
junkpiles that were strewn along Navy Pier recently.

Robert Wiegand

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egreen*@*cybergal*.SPAMBLOCKER.com.NOSPAM (Erika) writes:

>They all suck. Mime is the most useless of all art forms.

While I don't care much for mime you shouldn't judge it by the
street-corner mimes. That would be like condeming painters because
you don't like velvet-Elvis paintings.

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Joseph Dunphy

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97

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Yeah. That's what I love about usenet. The openmindedness.

Not "I don't enjoy mime", but "Mime sucks". Period. As if no
reasonable person could feel otherwise.

Mime is a form of street theatre. I wouldn't expect many people
here to enjoy it, because it requires a sense of playfulness, which
tends to be lacking here. I remember seeing one of the mimes out in
front of the three arts club, practicing, pretending to be walking on
a balance beam. So, from a distance, I pretend to throw a body block,
and he pretends to be knocked off balance.

I can't explain why this was fun. You either get it, or you don't.
But, you didn't have to be told what he was doing, in order to know
what it was, and the enjoyment was spontaneous, so I think that the
comparison to abstract expressionism is an absurd one. Oh, and by the
way, I would appreciate it if people would get the names of the
artistic movements that they refer to, straight. Impressionism was
a representational movement, and neo-Impressionism is its revival.
What is usually referred to as "modern art" is Abstract
Neo-Expressionism, which is quite a bit different.

sarlo (sa...@xochi.tezcat.com) wrote:
: Robert Wiegand <bwie...@sesd.cig.mot.com$> wrote:

: : egreen*@*cybergal*.SPAMBLOCKER.com.NOSPAM (Erika) writes:
: : >They all suck. Mime is the most useless of all art forms.
: : While I don't care much for mime you shouldn't judge it by the
: : street-corner mimes. That would be like condeming painters because
: : you don't like velvet-Elvis paintings.

: Painters are a far cry from some guy pressing against air pretending he's
: in a box and not talking. When a painter does a great painting, its good.
: WHen i mime gives a good performance, its still bad.
:
: Personally I liked how mimes were portrayed in "Shakes the Clown".
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Joe Toth

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97

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Joseph Dunphy wrote:
[snip]

> I can't explain why this was fun. You either get it, or you don't.
> But, you didn't have to be told what he was doing, in order to know
> what it was, and the enjoyment was spontaneous, so I think that the
> comparison to abstract expressionism is an absurd one. Oh, and by the
> way, I would appreciate it if people would get the names of the
> artistic movements that they refer to, straight. Impressionism was
> a representational movement, and neo-Impressionism is its revival.
> What is usually referred to as "modern art" is Abstract
> Neo-Expressionism, which is quite a bit different.

[snip]

As neo-inpressionist was used referring to the so-called
art that was on display on Navy Pier, not mimes.....

Neo-impressionism, Abstract Neo-expressionism....

I'll bite... What's the difference?????
How about some well known examples???

How was it used improperly??

A rose by any other name......

Junk is still Junk....

sarlo

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97

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Joseph Dunphy <st...@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote:

: Yeah. That's what I love about usenet. The openmindedness.
Then why do you continue to come here.

: Not "I don't enjoy mime", but "Mime sucks". Period. As if no

: reasonable person could feel otherwise.

Which is right. Using you as a prime example, nobody in their right
mind enjoys mime. It's annoying. It's stupid. It's not entertaining.
The same people who hailed Maplethorpe and Jim Morrison a genius
are usually the same assinine people who declare Mime to be high-brow
entertainment and also purchase scribblings of a drug-crazed madman for
thousands of dollars and declare it art.

: Mime is a form of street theatre. I wouldn't expect many people

: here to enjoy it, because it requires a sense of playfulness, which
: tends to be lacking here.

We love to play. However, you seem to be referring to "nice" playfulness,
as opposed to the evil, malign unpleasant playfulness we all enjoy.

: I remember seeing one of the mimes out in

: front of the three arts club, practicing, pretending to be walking on
: a balance beam. So, from a distance, I pretend to throw a body block,
: and he pretends to be knocked off balance.

Oh my! HOW JOVIAL! HAW HAW HAW HAW. I almost pissed my pants laughing so
hard. I liked the scene where this mime keeps bugging some woman on
"We're Geniuses in France", and she goes and sets him on fire..she
pretends to throw water on him to save him.

Now thats comedy!

: I can't explain why this was fun. You either get it, or you don't.

Oh, I "got" it. I "Got" it before you even came up upon that mime. i "GOT"
it before that mime was even BORN.

: But, you didn't have to be told what he was doing, in order to know

: what it was, and the enjoyment was spontaneous, so I think that the
: comparison to abstract expressionism is an absurd one. Oh, and by the
: way, I would appreciate it if people would get the names of the
: artistic movements that they refer to, straight. Impressionism was
: a representational movement, and neo-Impressionism is its revival.
: What is usually referred to as "modern art" is Abstract
: Neo-Expressionism, which is quite a bit different.

Art is what you can get away with. It doesn't matter what you call it.
It's all just a bunch of self-involved ego-stroking.

sarlo

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Sep 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/30/97

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Joe Toth <jgt...@geocities.com> wrote:
: As neo-inpressionist was used referring to the so-called

: art that was on display on Navy Pier, not mimes.....
: Neo-impressionism, Abstract Neo-expressionism....

Neo nazisim..neononsensical tripe..Neo McNuggets..Neo N...

If a title has the word "neo" as a prefix, then it is most likely the same
thing as Neon. Loud, annoying, ugly and usually ends up in a car or beer
commercial (see "The Scream")

what love with artists is how they're all desheveled, whiney, and they
talk about how they love their art. It "commands" them. Then they go on
and on about some artist or another is great, but his art destroys them,
but deep down, its what they aspire to.

C'mon folks. Theres always work at the post office.

: I'll bite... What's the difference?????

: How about some well known examples???

There is no difference. Bear shit and deer shit may look different, but
when it comes right down to it, its the same old shit.

: Junk is still Junk....

Amen to that.

Gary Paul Sarsok

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97

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I like art... but sometme..and especially with impressionistic art,
neo or othetherwise.. I think the artists forgot to wwear his
bi-focals.. you may gennerall notice that people usually are
squinting when looking at art, as though they were trying
to see something in those 3D computer generated images..
I bet the optometrists made a fortune when that craze was
popular.

On 30 Sep 1997 21:20:57 GMT, sa...@xochi.tezcat.com (sarlo) wrote:

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Joseph Dunphy

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97

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Look at the string of people following up, some repeatedly, on a topic
of personal taste. What I have to say here, applies to much of this
group.

Sarlo, get a life. It's none of your concern, what someone else enjoys,
and if you don't enjoy this particular form of light theatrical
expression, cool. Simply stay out of discussions about which mimes one
does or doesn't enjoy. This would be like me going onto
rec.food.cooking, and barging into an exchange of recipes for Shepard's
Pie, with a rude, an off topic observation that I loathe this
particular dish. Leaving the question unanswered, as to why anyone who
doesn't, should care. Try this behavior off line, and see how people
react.

Wow, this was such a thrill. Between you, and the Polish Messiah, this
group has grown to be more than mere caffeine can prepare one for.
Maybe, if I have a lot of time on my hands - and that's such a common
problem in Grad School - I'll tune back in, in a few months.
Let's see - hanging out with Cynthia, or flaming you. Writing my
theses, or listening to Raymond complain about how everyone, save him,
lacks the enlightenment to understand that the truth is best found, by
jumping to conclusions, and never examining them. Enjoying a fine meal,
or having a wino throw up on my shoes. Life is filled with hard
choices like these. And yet, somehow, we manage to make them.

Joseph Dunphy (st...@typhoon.xnet.com) wrote:
:
: Yeah. That's what I love about usenet. The openmindedness.

:

: Not "I don't enjoy mime", but "Mime sucks". Period. As if no
: reasonable person could feel otherwise.

:

: Mime is a form of street theatre. I wouldn't expect many people
: here to enjoy it, because it requires a sense of playfulness, which

: tends to be lacking here. I remember seeing one of the mimes out in

: front of the three arts club, practicing, pretending to be walking on
: a balance beam. So, from a distance, I pretend to throw a body block,
: and he pretends to be knocked off balance.

:

: I can't explain why this was fun. You either get it, or you don't.

: But, you didn't have to be told what he was doing, in order to know
: what it was, and the enjoyment was spontaneous, so I think that the
: comparison to abstract expressionism is an absurd one. Oh, and by the
: way, I would appreciate it if people would get the names of the
: artistic movements that they refer to, straight. Impressionism was
: a representational movement, and neo-Impressionism is its revival.
: What is usually referred to as "modern art" is Abstract
: Neo-Expressionism, which is quite a bit different.

:
:

: sarlo (sa...@xochi.tezcat.com) wrote:
: : Robert Wiegand <bwie...@sesd.cig.mot.com$> wrote:
: : : egreen*@*cybergal*.SPAMBLOCKER.com.NOSPAM (Erika) writes:
: : : >They all suck. Mime is the most useless of all art forms.
: : : While I don't care much for mime you shouldn't judge it by the
: : : street-corner mimes. That would be like condeming painters because
: : : you don't like velvet-Elvis paintings.
: : Painters are a far cry from some guy pressing against air pretending he's
: : in a box and not talking. When a painter does a great painting, its good.
: : WHen i mime gives a good performance, its still bad.
: :
: : Personally I liked how mimes were portrayed in "Shakes the Clown".
: :

: : --

sarlo

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Joseph Dunphy <st...@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote:

: Look at the string of people following up, some repeatedly, on a topic

: of personal taste. What I have to say here, applies to much of this
: group.

Preach on, reverend!

: Sarlo, get a life.
This coming from the guy who likes Mime?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

: It's none of your concern, what someone else enjoys,

: and if you don't enjoy this particular form of light theatrical
: expression, cool. Simply stay out of discussions about which mimes one
: does or doesn't enjoy.

You offered up your opinion. I offered up mine. If you have a problem with
that, then, with all due respect,lick my ass till it bleeds like the dog
you arrrrreee.

: This would be like me going onto

: rec.food.cooking, and barging into an exchange of recipes for Shepard's
: Pie, with a rude, an off topic observation that I loathe this
: particular dish.

Yea, but this isn't rec.arts.mimes. It's chi.general, and i'm giving my
particular point of view on a subject. Besides, if you didn't want my
attention to areas that you post in, you shouldn't have posted up that
"don't you have anything intelligent to say?" post. Now i'm going to do
this until it escalates into something really ugly.

: Leaving the question unanswered, as to why anyone who

: doesn't, should care. Try this behavior off line, and see how people
: react.

I do. It's pretty much the same. Half of them agree with me and the other
half get all huffy. I'm simply a genuinely unpleasant person to some
people. To others, I can be the best friend they have.

: Wow, this was such a thrill. Between you, and the Polish Messiah, this

: group has grown to be more than mere caffeine can prepare one for.

You should try crack or heroin.

: Maybe, if I have a lot of time on my hands - and that's such a common

: problem in Grad School - I'll tune back in, in a few months.

Good. Does this mean you're going to go away?

: Let's see - hanging out with Cynthia, or flaming you.
How good is she in the sack? You may consider sticking around online.
We don't want any scenes from "Kingpin" to slip into your life.
<make v-shape with fingers><waggle toungue>

: Writing my

: theses, or listening to Raymond complain about how everyone, save him,
: lacks the enlightenment to understand that the truth is best found, by
: jumping to conclusions, and never examining them.

You should hang out with him more. Self rightious delusionals tend to get
along pretty well.

: Enjoying a fine meal, or having a wino throw up on my shoes.
You lost me there.

: Life is filled with hard choices like these. And yet, somehow, we manage
: to make them.
Well its good to know you spend time dwelling on these things.

You're a grad student, eh? Taking Applied Mime Physics?

Clifton T. Sharp, Jr.

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Oct 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/2/97

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sarlo wrote:

> Joseph Dunphy <st...@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote:
> : Enjoying a fine meal, or having a wino throw up on my shoes.
> You lost me there.

He was having trouble deciding his preference. He just forgot to specify
whether the wino was drinking Thunderbird or Boone's Farm. Big difference
in chunk size and spreading characteristics.

> : Life is filled with hard choices like these. And yet, somehow, we manage
> : to make them.
> Well its good to know you spend time dwelling on these things.
>
> You're a grad student, eh? Taking Applied Mime Physics?

See his thesis on "The Ballistics of Wino Vomit". He places special
emphasis on the influence of the neo-mime movement on retching motions.

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