Hey Adam, what happened to the EL?

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
that way often.

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[Geoff Gass]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
> that way often.

you're a fucking idiot as usual. Wells street bridge has been closed all
week, reopens before rush hour Monday. It's been very widely publicized.
Too bad your idiot kids can't fucking read.

[smr]

On Sat, 4 May 2013 06:07:03 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
> that way often.

You and your moron kids are too dumb to live.

--
smr

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

College kids just home from school... not just mine stranded though, lots of
people milling around on Van Buren last night around midnight... many wasted
flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)

I don't ride the EL, just people using public subsidies...

[Geoff Gass]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
>>> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
>>> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
>>> that way often.
>
>>you're a fucking idiot as usual. Wells street bridge has been closed all
>>week, reopens before rush hour Monday. It's been very widely publicized.
>>Too bad your idiot kids can't fucking read.
>
> College kids just home from school... not just mine stranded though, lots of
> people milling around on Van Buren last night around midnight... many wasted
> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)

and you're still a fucking idiot, it'll be back open on monday you fucking
tard

[Mark Anderson]

In article j...@ripco.com says...

> many wasted
> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)

Is that a promise? With kids that stupid I'm surprised how they avoided
being mugged.

[smr]

On Sat, 4 May 2013 19:38:11 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
>>> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
>>> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
>>> that way often.
>
>>you're a fucking idiot as usual. Wells street bridge has been closed all
>>week, reopens before rush hour Monday. It's been very widely publicized.
>>Too bad your idiot kids can't fucking read.
>
> College kids just home from school... not just mine stranded though, lots of
> people milling around on Van Buren last night around midnight... many wasted
> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)
>
> I don't ride the EL, just people using public subsidies...

And yet you've posted about riding the El before and your idiotic policy of
always getting on right in the center of the train. So, which aspect are
you lying about, John?

You and your kids are a bunch of dumb fucking assholes who should be shoved
into the river. Your asshole kids were never stranded, there were many
alternatives to taking the Brown Line straight over the river. Did they
even learn how to fucking read at whatever bullshit college you sent them
to? Too stupid to Google "Brown Line alternatives" on their cell phones?

Fucking college-aged and their first instinct is to panic and call Daddy to
save them?

Worthless shits.

--
smr

[smr]

I like the implied threat, like it's downtown's loss that the sub-retarded
Nelson twats won't be meeting up downtown anymore because they're too
stupid to read a flyer or google something.

I also like how John lies about ever taking the El, bitches that the only
people who use it are public subsidy-suckers, yet weren't his kids trying
to take it themselves? So he raised a bunch of little Christian tax
parasites?

Dude's as consistent as a four-year old.

--
smr

[Cydrome Leader]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
> that way often.

Is your child blind, deaf, illiterate and retarded?

That's the only way to have missed the news, signs, announcements and huge
"BROWN LINE SHUTTLE" busses.

[Geoff Gass]

on behalf of four year olds, fuck off! my kid (5 now) was way more
consistent at 4 than fucking nellie

[sticks]

On 5/5/2013 3:42 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:

> +1.
>

I don't get any of you. Seems like a regular paddlefuck post to me. He
either makes shit up, or he lies. Where's the inconsistency?

[Geoff Gass]

point sticks

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Nope, nor were all the other people there on Van Buren late night... perhaps a
bit inebriated, but that was all...

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

smr <m...@shawnritchie.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 4 May 2013 19:38:11 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

>> Geoff Gass <g...@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
>>>> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
>>>> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
>>>> that way often.
>>
>>>you're a fucking idiot as usual. Wells street bridge has been closed all
>>>week, reopens before rush hour Monday. It's been very widely publicized.
>>>Too bad your idiot kids can't fucking read.
>>
>> College kids just home from school... not just mine stranded though, lots of
>> people milling around on Van Buren last night around midnight... many wasted
>> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)
>>
>> I don't ride the EL, just people using public subsidies...

>And yet you've posted about riding the El before and your idiotic policy of
>always getting on right in the center of the train. So, which aspect are
>you lying about, John?

Ride in the center of the train? Why?

Post a link to this supposed post from google groups to refresh my memory of
the topic.

Ages ago when there was a conductor in the center perhaps, but otherwise,
why?

<drivel snipped>

>smr

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Not my problem boi.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Oh golly, the wack job is on the attack again (oh wait, you always are. Maybe
you should ask CL to pull the broomhandle out of your butt and see if you have
a better disposition without it?).

I didn't say I've never taken it, when there is a need to ride I might use it,
but otherwise I avoid it as often as possible (I do have fare cards). Once
upon a time I thought my fare actually paid for my ride. Now I know better
and its just a matter of personal choice to not spend my life thinking i'm
entitled to others paying half my fare.

>Dude's as consistent as a four-year old.

Much like smrs argument ability...

>--
>smr

[smr]

On Tue, 7 May 2013 06:54:48 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

> smr <m...@shawnritchie.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 4 May 2013 16:54:49 -0400, Mark Anderson wrote:
>
>>> In article j...@ripco.com says...
>>>> many wasted
>>>> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)
>>>
>>> Is that a promise? With kids that stupid I'm surprised how they avoided
>>> being mugged.
>
>>I like the implied threat, like it's downtown's loss that the sub-retarded
>>Nelson twats won't be meeting up downtown anymore because they're too
>>stupid to read a flyer or google something.
>
>>I also like how John lies about ever taking the El, bitches that the only
>>people who use it are public subsidy-suckers, yet weren't his kids trying
>>to take it themselves? So he raised a bunch of little Christian tax
>>parasites?
>
> Oh golly, the wack job is on the attack again (oh wait, you always are. Maybe
> you should ask CL to pull the broomhandle out of your butt and see if you have
> a better disposition without it?).
>
> I didn't say I've never taken it, when there is a need to ride I might use it,
> but otherwise I avoid it as often as possible (I do have fare cards). Once
> upon a time I thought my fare actually paid for my ride. Now I know better
> and its just a matter of personal choice to not spend my life thinking i'm
> entitled to others paying half my fare.

John, stop lying. Here is your exact quote: "I don't ride the EL, just
people using public subsidies...".

And way to parent, btw. If you think this is such a great personal choice,
why were your asshole fuckin' kids trying to rape society by taking the El
instead of cabbing, driving, walking or, what they ended up doing,
panicking like the pack of extra-chromosomal retards that they are and
calling daddy when presented with the tiniest of challenges?

Shitty parent, liar, hypocrite... what other labels for you am I forgetting
right now?

As for your bullshit personal choice, you're not paying ANYWHERE NEAR the
full cost of your use of the roads you drive, so please don't kid yourself
that you're not a leech on society. You are. Massively.

>>Dude's as consistent as a four-year old.
>
> Much like smrs argument ability...

Or your ability to punctuate.

--
smr

[smr]

Backtracking, lying, dissembling... typical Johnny.

--
smr

[Cydrome Leader]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> Cydrome Leader <pres...@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>>> The EL is dead. Just picked up one of my kids from downtown... said the
>>> brown line wasn't running anymore and there were many befuddled people on
>>> the platform. I like what they did to Congress though, I don't drive in
>>> that way often.
>
>>Is your child blind, deaf, illiterate and retarded?
>
>>That's the only way to have missed the news, signs, announcements and huge
>>"BROWN LINE SHUTTLE" busses.
>
> Nope, nor were all the other people there on Van Buren late night... perhaps a
> bit inebriated, but that was all...

Other drunks have nothing to do with how incredibly stupid your kids are.

[Cydrome Leader]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> smr <m...@shawnritchie.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 4 May 2013 16:54:49 -0400, Mark Anderson wrote:
>
>>> In article j...@ripco.com says...
>>>> many wasted
>>>> flyers on the ground about the changes (they just won't meet downtown anymore)
>>>
>>> Is that a promise? With kids that stupid I'm surprised how they avoided
>>> being mugged.
>
>>I like the implied threat, like it's downtown's loss that the sub-retarded
>>Nelson twats won't be meeting up downtown anymore because they're too
>>stupid to read a flyer or google something.
>
>>I also like how John lies about ever taking the El, bitches that the only
>>people who use it are public subsidy-suckers, yet weren't his kids trying
>>to take it themselves? So he raised a bunch of little Christian tax
>>parasites?
>
> Oh golly, the wack job is on the attack again (oh wait, you always are. Maybe
> you should ask CL to pull the broomhandle out of your butt and see if you have
> a better disposition without it?).

Interesting, nelson is talking about broomhandles up asses.

no wonder he has a homosexual son.

[Michele]

He did it to himself by having a large brood. Put the odds in his favor.

[Mark Anderson]

In article eatshi...@spammers.com says...

> > no wonder he has a homosexual son.
> >
> >
>
> He did it to himself by having a large brood. Put the odds in his favor.

That's also how guppies survive.

[Mark Anderson]

In article j...@ripco.com says...

> Now I know better
> and its just a matter of personal choice to not spend my life thinking i'm
> entitled to others paying half my fare.

Welfare for me but not for thee.

The absolute worst evening imaginable is being stuck amongst a bunch of
middle aged angry white men complain about taxes and those colored
people. Read the Sun Times comment section sometime to read how these
people think. I'm both amused and amazed observing how certain whiners,
who work for companies dependent upon government contracts (i.e.
welfare) to exist, can live with themselves. Nelson thinks the piddly
amount he pays for a city sticker should entitle him to free parking
anywhere in the city for the whole year. Mathematics couldn't be one of
his best subjects. Retards generally have trouble with math and logic.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

I didn't say "I've never ridden the EL". Is English a second language for you?

>And way to parent, btw. If you think this is such a great personal choice,
>why were your asshole fuckin' kids trying to rape society by taking the El
>instead of cabbing, driving, walking or, what they ended up doing,
>panicking like the pack of extra-chromosomal retards that they are and
>calling daddy when presented with the tiniest of challenges?

You have a thing against people making independent decisions eh?

They are young and need to make their own decisions.

One kid going downtown probably doesn't need to pay for parking, on the other
hand, wife, kids and I all drive downtown. More economical to pay for parking
than to ride the EL back and forth.

There are lots of reasons not to support various buracracies.

Just got home from downtown picking up one of my kids. Lots of shuttle busses
at Roosevelt station tonight (she counted 5 sitting).

>Shitty parent, liar, hypocrite... what other labels for you am I forgetting
>right now?

One who respects individuality and lets his kids make their own choices?

>As for your bullshit personal choice, you're not paying ANYWHERE NEAR the
>full cost of your use of the roads you drive, so please don't kid yourself
>that you're not a leech on society. You are. Massively.

Actually... in terms of cost and damage, cars subsidize trucks and busses
(even the city has finally figured out the amount of damage busses do by
putting in the bus pads to try and limit it)... Even after 10 years of
having my E350 parked on it, the pad next to my garage was fine when I sold
it yet the city dinged me with a LP sticker.

We had a long discussion here in the past about the damage a truck can cause;

Here is one quote from one of my posts on the topic;
"... According to a series of experiments carried out in the late 1950s,
called the AASHO Road Test, it was empirically determined that the
effective damage done to the road is roughly proportional to the Fourth
power of axle weight.[30] A typical tractor-trailer weighing 80,000
pounds (36.287 t) with 8,000 pounds (3.629 t) on the steer axle and
36,000 pounds (16.329 t) on both of the tandem axle groups is expected
to do 7,800 times more damage than a passenger vehicle with 2,000 pounds
(0.907 t) on each axle. ..."

So, if a truck causes 7,800 times the damage a car does, is a truck city
sticker 7,800 times the cost of a car? What about a bus since even the
latest, lightest busses are pushing over 40,000 pounds? Now compare that
to the weight of a Ford Focus...

We all use the merchandise transported on the roads so we should all pay for
it. There isn't any commercial cargo transported via EL or Metra that I know
of, just people not paying the full cost of their ride. Maybe a tiered system
based on income? Show the CTA how much you earn and they'll decide how much
you should pay?

We all benefit from the roads, but we don't all benefit from commuter rail.

If the city streets are tied up every day with commuters and the trains and
busses cut that down, it won't affect my commute a bit as I commute to the
burbs daily. There are many like me who live in the city but work in the burbs.

>>>Dude's as consistent as a four-year old.
>>
>> Much like smrs argument ability...

>Or your ability to punctuate.

Or your ability to be civil...

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Michele <eatshi...@spammers.com> wrote:

<snip>

>He did it to himself by having a large brood. Put the odds in his favor.

I know reading might be difficult for you, but did you ever read what that
study said?

We get a few science magazines delivered and I looked at it when it came out...
5th son has a 6% chance, and we don't have 5, nor do we have 4... and number
of girls don't matter... We have lots of girls and only a few boys...

But nice try...

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Where did free parking come into this???

Well, if you recall, I'm all for treating welfare receivers as adults and
not limiting what they can buy... I think that would cut fraud.

http://groups.google.com/group/chi.general/browse_thread/thread/4ea4594562b908d8/41f998c5dc61eb81?lnk=gst&q=illinois+link+card+30+minutes+group%3Achi.general+author%3Ajwn%40ripco.com#41f998c5dc61eb81

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

I figured you would wuss out and not post a link to my alleged post (I searched
google groups and didn't see it there either - course there were the days when
your bud danny would change the wording, but that wasn't an area he'd target)

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

lol... i watched the 10pm news tonight interviewing various people who went
to the red line...

[smr]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 05:09:37 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

> You have a thing against people making independent decisions eh?

Calling Daddy because they're downtown and too fuckin' stupid to figure out
how to get home is not a sign of independence, John.

> They are young and need to make their own decisions.

The only decision your shithead made here was to punt and call you. So,
yeah, I'm not impressed.

> One kid going downtown probably doesn't need to pay for parking, on the other
> hand, wife, kids and I all drive downtown. More economical to pay for parking
> than to ride the EL back and forth.
>
> There are lots of reasons not to support various buracracies.

I don't know what a "buracracies" is.

> Just got home from downtown picking up one of my kids. Lots of shuttle busses
> at Roosevelt station tonight (she counted 5 sitting).

And the dumb bitch couldn't get on one of those shuttle busses, why?

> One who respects individuality and lets his kids make their own choices?

"I'll come bail you out immediately!"

Yeah. Really toughenin' those little asswipes up.

Zzzzzzzzzz.

> Or your ability to be civil...

Oh, please. You're the snarkiest, lashing-outiest cunt around here.

--
smr

[smr]

--
smr

[Mark Anderson]

In article j...@ripco.com says...

> Well, if you recall, I'm all for treating welfare receivers as adults and
> not limiting what they can buy... I think that would cut fraud.

We have already established on these boards your membership into the
club of welfare queens. No one limits what you can buy with your
welfare. You don't even think you receive welfare.

In the stedding of angry middle aged white men complaining about taxes,
statements like yours is code to other middle aged angry white men how
you too carry that forced cross of persecution. Much like how the black
man suffered during slavery, in modern times roles have reversed. Now
the white man must sacrifice their labor to support those colored people
and their lazy no work lifestyles. Sure. Let them buy their booze and
crack cocaine with food stamps. What difference does it make? Nothing
will ever change. The middle aged white man suffers his lot in silence.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>In article j...@ripco.com says...
>> Well, if you recall, I'm all for treating welfare receivers as adults and
>> not limiting what they can buy... I think that would cut fraud.

>We have already established on these boards your membership into the
>club of welfare queens. No one limits what you can buy with your
>welfare. You don't even think you receive welfare.

Your right, I don't see it that way.

Our local public school was a magnet school, and when we applied we got the
"Your racial index is greater than 10 letter" (meaning there were more than 10
other kids our race on the waiting list so we sent our kids to Catholic
schools). The city picks up our garbage, sometimes plows our street,
but we don't get much else from them except bills.

We are active in our local church and the kids are in various youth groups and
sports teams, either at school or via the church.

As I've said before, my net gain in dealing with the government is over
college tuition deductions, and that benefits them in the long run as when
the kids are doing well, they are paying back more in taxes than their
education cost. It's a long term investment the government makes in
peoples lives that pays the government back probably 10 fold over time.

>In the stedding of angry middle aged white men complaining about taxes,
>statements like yours is code to other middle aged angry white men how
>you too carry that forced cross of persecution. Much like how the black
>man suffered during slavery, in modern times roles have reversed. Now
>the white man must sacrifice their labor to support those colored people
>and their lazy no work lifestyles. Sure. Let them buy their booze and
>crack cocaine with food stamps. What difference does it make? Nothing
>will ever change. The middle aged white man suffers his lot in silence.

Once again, I don't have any problem with welfare other than the government
not treating receipients like adults. There shouldn't be strings attached to
money granted to others. The government didn't earn it, they took it.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

You still didn't post a link to the comment... probably because it only
happened in your dreams...

[Geoff Gass]

Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
> Our local public school was a magnet school

liar. every address in chicago has a neighborhood school that is not a
magnet