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Boffer Bings

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Mar 21, 2013, 2:02:25 PM3/21/13
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The other day I upgraded my router's firmware. It took a few minutes to
install, then I had to reboot my router - another minute maybe. Next, I
had to reset all my preferences on the configuration page, because the
reboot set everything back to the factory defaults and wiped out my
encryption. After all that - less than 15 minutes total, I looked at my
dhcp table. What did I find? Some bastard with a wii had already jumped
onto the network! Fucker.


Michele

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Mar 21, 2013, 3:07:55 PM3/21/13
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That's when you name your router "Busted a Wii User" or something like
that. After you lock it of course.

Mark Anderson

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Mar 21, 2013, 5:56:31 PM3/21/13
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In article oil_o...@invalid.com says...
> The other day I upgraded my router's firmware.

I find if funny when people see the need to upgrade something for no
reason other than they think they have to.


Chicago Paddling-Fishing

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Mar 22, 2013, 3:37:19 AM3/22/13
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Might be to gain more features... there might be a purpose...

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max

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Mar 22, 2013, 3:44:02 AM3/22/13
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I had free internets for 5 years . :-D

spamtrap1888

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Mar 22, 2013, 5:21:59 AM3/22/13
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On Mar 22, 12:44 am, max <betat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Boffer Bings
>
> <oil_of_...@invalid.com> wrote:
> > The other day I upgraded my router's firmware. It took a few
> minutes to
> > install, then I had to reboot my router - another minute maybe.
> Next, I
> > had to reset all my preferences on the configuration page, because
> the
> > reboot set everything back to the factory defaults and wiped out my
> > encryption. After all that - less than 15 minutes total, I looked
> at my
> > dhcp table. What did I find? Some bastard with a wii had already
> jumped
> > onto the network! Fucker.
>
> I had free internets for 5 years .  :-D

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Mark Anderson

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Mar 22, 2013, 11:49:07 AM3/22/13
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In article j...@ripco.com says...
> >> The other day I upgraded my router's firmware.
>
> >I find if funny when people see the need to upgrade something for no
> >reason other than they think they have to.
>
> Might be to gain more features... there might be a purpose...

Please list what possible features one could gain from a manufacturer's
upgrade of an el cheap ass home router. If he was burning a tomato or a
dd-wrt spin that would be different.



tert in seattle

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Mar 22, 2013, 12:45:10 PM3/22/13
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barbie gee wrote:
> Anybody have any weirdo wifi WAP names near your own?
>
> creative: (you can tell I live in hipsterville)
>
> Tardis
> Eagles Wear Jorts in America
> babygoatstampede
> OMG_unicorns
> daftpunkisplayingatmyhouse
> skynet
> phron
>
> we then have less creative:
>
> JoyHome
> fronthouse
> SmithHouse
> Mountainhouse
>
> and finally, those who don't even bother changing the default name at all!

great band names

wrng grp btw

Eric

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Mar 22, 2013, 1:01:59 PM3/22/13
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barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote in
news:alpine.DEB.2.02.1...@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz:

>
>
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Michele wrote:
>
> Anybody have any weirdo wifi WAP names near your own?
>
> creative: (you can tell I live in hipsterville)
>
> Tardis
> Eagles Wear Jorts in America
> babygoatstampede
> OMG_unicorns
> daftpunkisplayingatmyhouse
> skynet
> phron
>
> we then have less creative:
>
> JoyHome
> fronthouse
> SmithHouse
> Mountainhouse
>
> and finally, those who don't even bother changing the default name at
> all!

I try to choose names that will entertain and amuse my neighbors and/or
the DSL installer.

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Coming to you from the beautiful Chicago suburbs

Cydrome Leader

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Mar 22, 2013, 3:27:52 PM3/22/13
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are you really this clueless?

This was a rhetorical question by the way.


Mark Anderson

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Mar 22, 2013, 3:42:52 PM3/22/13
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In article pres...@MUNGEpanix.com says...
> > Please list what possible features one could gain from a manufacturer's
> > upgrade of an el cheap ass home router. If he was burning a tomato or a
> > dd-wrt spin that would be different.
>
> are you really this clueless?
>
> This was a rhetorical question by the way.

I also find it funny someone who bends his knee to the altar of
Microsoft IE calling out someone else as clueless.

The above was a statement of irony by the way.




spamtrap1888

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Mar 22, 2013, 5:09:17 PM3/22/13
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On Mar 22, 6:53 am, barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Michele wrote:
> Anybody have any weirdo wifi WAP names near your own?
>
> creative:  (you can tell I live in hipsterville)
>
> Tardis
> Eagles Wear Jorts in America
> babygoatstampede
> OMG_unicorns
> daftpunkisplayingatmyhouse
> skynet
> phron
>
> we then have less creative:
>
> JoyHome
> fronthouse
> SmithHouse
> Mountainhouse
>
> and finally, those who don't even bother changing the default name at all!

linksys
NETGEAR41
fuckoff

One guy's network is [the dog's]House. The dog has a human name, of
course.

Cydrome Leader

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Mar 22, 2013, 6:19:01 PM3/22/13
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I don't live with rats and maggots.

I don't have broken $3 xiang dong access points and hokey networks either.

All the stuff I deal with actually works- something you and nelson
probably aren't familiar with with your amateur night 37% packet loss on a
good day garbage networks.

hell, you even struggle pinging yahoo.





Mark Anderson

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Mar 23, 2013, 3:09:45 PM3/23/13
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In article pres...@MUNGEpanix.com says...
> All the stuff I deal with actually works- something you and nelson
> probably aren't familiar with with your amateur night 37% packet loss on a
> good day garbage networks.

You're an idiot. Nelson claimed that there might be some purpose to
upgrading a cheap ass home router and you haven't provided a single
purpose. I know why Nelson thinks there's a purpose. To him, upgrading
makes him feel part of the process because without that he'd realize
that a semi trained monkey could probably do his job if you could train
a monkey to drive from place to place.

It's an insult to real routers to call a cheap ass home router a router
because all it does is forward packets to and fro and terminate your
public IP. That's it. I mentioned tomato because their GUI is a lot
more intuitive and you can futz with the transmitting power but I don't
think that even works because cheap ass home wifi routers have cheap ass
transmitters. Why? Because they're cheap!



Cydrome Leader

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Mar 23, 2013, 7:51:28 PM3/23/13
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Mark Anderson <m...@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
> In article pres...@MUNGEpanix.com says...
>> All the stuff I deal with actually works- something you and nelson
>> probably aren't familiar with with your amateur night 37% packet loss on a
>> good day garbage networks.
>
> You're an idiot. Nelson claimed that there might be some purpose to
> upgrading a cheap ass home router and you haven't provided a single
> purpose. I know why Nelson thinks there's a purpose. To him, upgrading
> makes him feel part of the process because without that he'd realize
> that a semi trained monkey could probably do his job if you could train
> a monkey to drive from place to place.

you seem real in-tune with nelson, at least in your broken little mind.

that's pretty sad right there.

> It's an insult to real routers to call a cheap ass home router a router
> because all it does is forward packets to and fro and terminate your
> public IP. That's it. I mentioned tomato because their GUI is a lot
> more intuitive and you can futz with the transmitting power but I don't
> think that even works because cheap ass home wifi routers have cheap ass
> transmitters. Why? Because they're cheap!

Let me get this straight here-

- you freak out becase I use IE
- you configure routers with a GUI?




Mark Anderson

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Mar 23, 2013, 9:23:41 PM3/23/13
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In article pres...@MUNGEpanix.com says...
> Let me get this straight here-
>
> - you freak out becase I use IE
> - you configure routers with a GUI?

Are you part of the GUIs are for sissies crowd? I don't mind a good GUI
for doing stuff not too often. You have to use the GUI on cheap ass
routers. You can ssh into a tomato router but not sure what you can
configure from there. I was never interested since they have a nice GUI
and once configured you can forget about it for years.

If you want a real CLI you'll need to spend more than $100.


smr

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Mar 24, 2013, 2:42:09 PM3/24/13
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You configure routers with a GUI. You're a cunt. Fuck off.

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smr

Cydrome Leader

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Mar 24, 2013, 4:39:18 PM3/24/13
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I wonder what sort of download.com windows-ping plus pro type program he
uses to ping yahoo.

MacOwner

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Mar 24, 2013, 5:19:12 PM3/24/13
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Mark Anderson

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Mar 24, 2013, 5:23:27 PM3/24/13
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In article pres...@MUNGEpanix.com says...
> I wonder what sort of download.com windows-ping plus pro type program he
> uses to ping yahoo.

It's standard unix ping and it all started at my end when yahoo became a
"technology" company instead of whatever company they used to be.

Here's a sample not that any of you jugheads really gives a fuck:

[root@soyo captures]# ping yahoo.com
PING yahoo.com (98.139.183.24) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=2 ttl=
54 time=185 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=3 ttl=
54 time=642 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=4 ttl=
54 time=304 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=5 ttl=
54 time=310 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=6 ttl=
54 time=413 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=7 ttl=
54 time=662 ms
64 bytes from ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com (98.139.183.24): icmp_req=8 ttl=
54 time=317 ms
^C
--- yahoo.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 7 received, 12% packet loss, time 7006ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 185.885/405.314/662.347/168.022 ms


And then google.

[root@soyo captures]# ping google.com
PING google.com (74.125.225.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=58
time=20.6 ms
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=2 ttl=58
time=21.4 ms
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=3 ttl=58
time=22.6 ms
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=4 ttl=58
time=20.9 ms
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=5 ttl=58
time=22.1 ms
64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=6 ttl=58
time=22.6 ms
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5007ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 20.601/21.719/22.639/0.797 ms


Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 24, 2013, 7:30:29 PM3/24/13
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Cydrome Leader <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Let me get this straight here-

>- you freak out becase I use IE
>- you configure routers with a GUI?

I actually have no idea how to configure a router without using the GUI
in the browser. Is there another way to send it commands?

Geoff Gass

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Mar 24, 2013, 7:43:32 PM3/24/13
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for consumer grade stuff, usually not
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing

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May 21, 2013, 1:22:07 AM5/21/13
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barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:


>On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Michele wrote:

>Anybody have any weirdo wifi WAP names near your own?

>creative: (you can tell I live in hipsterville)

>Tardis
>Eagles Wear Jorts in America
>babygoatstampede
>OMG_unicorns
>daftpunkisplayingatmyhouse
>skynet
>phron

>we then have less creative:

>JoyHome
>fronthouse
>SmithHouse
>Mountainhouse

>and finally, those who don't even bother changing the default name at all!

Why wouldn't you just not broadcast your SSID?

Chicago Paddling-Fishing

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May 21, 2013, 1:25:57 AM5/21/13
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I did HyperWRT years back because it allows control transmit and receive power
(your router defaults the antenna to 50% power, but we've been running at 83%
for about 8 years without issue as we have an addition with a brick wall and
at that time we just had a single WAP.)

Chicago Paddling-Fishing

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May 21, 2013, 1:44:56 AM5/21/13
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Why are your times so bad (these times are from a ASUS P585 which is the oldest
machine we currently use)?

I:\>ping yahoo.com

Pinging yahoo.com [98.138.253.109] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 98.138.253.109: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.138.253.109: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.138.253.109: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.138.253.109: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 98.138.253.109:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 99ms, Average = 61ms

>And then google.

>[root@soyo captures]# ping google.com
>PING google.com (74.125.225.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=1 ttl=58
>time=20.6 ms
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=2 ttl=58
>time=21.4 ms
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=3 ttl=58
>time=22.6 ms
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=4 ttl=58
>time=20.9 ms
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=5 ttl=58
>time=22.1 ms
>64 bytes from ord08s05-in-f1.1e100.net (74.125.225.1): icmp_req=6 ttl=58
>time=22.6 ms
>^C
>--- google.com ping statistics ---
>6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5007ms
>rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 20.601/21.719/22.639/0.797 ms

I:\>ping google.com

Pinging google.com [74.125.225.110] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=56
Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56
Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 74.125.225.110:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 14ms

The i7 laptop via wireless actually gets slightly better performance than this
machine but this machine is currently the oldest operational machine in the
house.

The i7 gets 14ms, 13ms, 14ms, 14ms for it's pings to google (with 0% lost).

Mark Anderson

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May 21, 2013, 5:40:19 PM5/21/13
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In article j...@ripco.com says...
> Why are your times so bad (these times are from a ASUS P585 which is the oldest
> machine we currently use)?

Exactly how does a PC manufacturer and CPU architecture have anything to
do with ping times?

< my ping times snipped >

> I:\>ping google.com
>
> Pinging google.com [74.125.225.110] with 32 bytes of data:
>
> Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=56
> Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56
> Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=56
> Reply from 74.125.225.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=56

Even ping times become a dick swinging contest with you. After
producing between the 5th and 10th retard is all anyone needs to know
about what your dick produces.

smr

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May 22, 2013, 12:07:09 PM5/22/13
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Both of you idiots using ping times to determine network health on
routers you don't control that are almost guaranteed to have ICMP
response set to lowest priority so that your vaunted pings might be told
to piss off whereas valid traffic goes through just fine thereby turning
your entire dick-waving contest over ping times into meaningless
stupidity need to stick to what you actually do know something about;
care & feeding of rats for Anderson, and care & feeding of the mailman's
kids for Nelson.

--
smr

Mark Anderson

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May 22, 2013, 1:51:36 PM5/22/13
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In article m...@shawnritchie.com says...
> Both of you idiots using ping times to determine network health on
> routers you don't control that are almost guaranteed to have ICMP
> response set to lowest priority so that your vaunted pings might be told
> to piss off whereas valid traffic goes through just fine thereby turning
> your entire dick-waving contest over ping times into meaningless
> stupidity need to stick to what you actually do know something about;
> care & feeding of rats for Anderson, and care & feeding of the mailman's
> kids for Nelson.

It was clear in my original post that I only used ping for connectivity
and have been using yahoo.com for over a decade just because my fingers
got used to typing ping yahoo.com. After their new CEO got hired is
when I noticed ping times all over the place. I posted that abnormally
because it is a change at the time, albeit insignificant, in yahoo.com
that probably noone else would have noticed because everyone does these
things differently. Plus there could have been 6 dozen other reasons
for this for which I explicitly said I DON'T GIVE A FUCK and got my
fingers used to typing google.com at 1000 wpm instead..

Nelson brought up the dick swinging ping times with google.com to
illustrate, like how everything he does is better, how his house is
built up the highest because he's king of his shit hole of a
neighborhood, that his ISP is also the best because his ping times were
half mine.

But I'm glad we gave you an opportunity to wax intelligentsia about ICMP
like that piece of info is some great revelation and that your CCNA is
finally paying off with your contribution here on Usenet. Please
edumacate us more on network protocols mister expert!


smr

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May 22, 2013, 4:51:02 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 12:51 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:

> But I'm glad we gave you an opportunity to wax intelligentsia about ICMP
> like that piece of info is some great revelation and that your CCNA is
> finally paying off with your contribution here on Usenet. Please
> edumacate us more on network protocols mister expert!

If you were any good at anything networking, you'd already know that
CCNA's are for assholes.

That you're using ping tests for _anything_ means you're a staggering,
incompetent shithead. That's all I was trying to point out. You and
Nelson dick-waving over this is like watching two retards argue about
who's car cooks food faster.

--
smr

Mark Anderson

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May 22, 2013, 5:05:04 PM5/22/13
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In article m...@shawnritchie.com says...
> > But I'm glad we gave you an opportunity to wax intelligentsia about ICMP
> > like that piece of info is some great revelation and that your CCNA is
> > finally paying off with your contribution here on Usenet. Please
> > edumacate us more on network protocols mister expert!
>
> If you were any good at anything networking, you'd already know that
> CCNA's are for assholes.

Exactly.


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