jewish deli
James Boyk
he's 50 years old and goes back to Chicago occasionally to get good
delicatessen, which is unobtainable in his town. The deli he goes to is
the one his parents went to -- they and he were all Chicago-born. The
deli is one that was good in his childhood and is still good: bread
baked on the premises or brought fresh every day from a good bakery;
soups corned beef & pastrami all made on the premises; individually
selected sides of lox; and so on.
Is there any such place?
Thanks,
Jim Boyk
Adam H. Kerman
God, I hope so. A good Jewish deli that hasn't moved in 45 years, I suppose
there must be one in West Rogers Park. Have you decided what neighborhood
he grew up in?
What's he need with lox? He can't get bagels in Kenosha either. As soon as
gentiles discovered them, they became soft and mushy like Wonder bread.
SYKoppel
location.
Sadly, the delis of West Rogers Park are no more.
You'd be better off going for the hot dog stand, you could use Fluky's as the
example, although it's not actually at its original north side site, either,
it's just a few blocks away.
Daniel Blum
Anyone know how long Kaufmann's in Skokie has been around?
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>The best I can suggest to you is the Bagel, although it's not in its original
>location.
>
>Sadly, the delis of West Rogers Park are no more.
>
>You'd be better off going for the hot dog stand, you could use Fluky's as the
>example, although it's not actually at its original north side site, either,
>it's just a few blocks away.
Isn't manny's still on division street...
And isn;t there a place near the Old maxwell street still going.
Len
>
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Rene G
anymore (but I would love to be proven wrong!). Maybe the closest would
be Manny's which claims to have been around since 1942. But I believe it
has neither been at the same location nor been in continuous operation
for that long. I think it used to be somewhere on the northwest side,
closed for a while, then reopened at its present location sometime in
the '60s (I could be wrong on the details). It's not exactly your
classic deli either, more of an old-fashioned steam table cafeteria that
serves the standard deli items you mentioned. I like Manny's very much
and would have to agree that they serve the best corned beef sandwich in
Chicago (though to put things into proper perspective, you really should
try Katz's, Carnegie, or 2nd Avenue Deli in NYC).
Manny's Coffee Shop & Deli
1141 S Jefferson
Chicago
312-939-2855
bo...@caltech.edu wrote:
> I'm writing a novel one of whose characters lives in SE Wisc. In 1995,
> he's 50 years old and goes back to Chicago occasionally to get good
> delicatessen, which is unobtainable in his town. The deli he goes to is
> the one his parents went to -- they and he were all Chicago-born. The
> deli is one that was good in his childhood and is still good: bread
> baked on the premises or brought fresh every day from a good bakery;
> soups corned beef & pastrami all made on the premises; individually
> selected sides of lox; and so on.
>
> Is there any such place?
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[snip]
> You'd be better off going for the hot dog stand, you could use Fluky's as the
> example, although it's not actually at its original north side site, either,
> it's just a few blocks away.
Actually, I believe the original Fluky's was on the near south side. It
opened in 1929 and was around Maxwell and Halsted. See the Fluky's
History Page for details.
http://www.flukys.com/html/history.html
SYKoppel
to differentiate it from its original site.
Ken Kapson
> Actually, I believe the original Fluky's was on the near south side. It
> opened in 1929 and was around Maxwell and Halsted. See the Fluky's
> History Page for details.
>
> http://www.flukys.com/html/history.html
Thanks for providing the link to the Fluky's page. I found the picture at
the bottom of particular interest, to me.
It was taken at their Grand Opening celebration, a few months after they
opened in 1964 (which is why the people in the picture aren't dressed for
a February day in Chicago). The long lines aren't only because people
liked Fluky's food, but because, on that day, the cost of hot dogs was
rolled back to $.05 each!
The reason I was surprised to see the picture is because I was the Andy
Frain usher in the middle of the photo. It was the shortest travel time I
had to any ushering job...I lived in the apartment building (now condos)
across the street (behind the current Fluky's location).
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James Boyk
>
> Unfortunately, I don't think there are any places like that around
> anymore (but I would love to be proven wrong!). Maybe the closest would
and would have to agree that they serve the best corned beef sandwich in
Chicago (though to put things into proper perspective, you really should
try Katz's, Carnegie, or 2nd Avenue Deli in NYC).
Thanks to everyone for help. It sounds as though the deli scene in
Chicago is almost as bad as here in Los Angeles, which frankly
astonishes me. Someone mentioned a place called Ashkenazi (sp?), which
I'm also checking out.
Each time I go to New York--not too frequently--I ask some deli maven of
my acquaintance where I can find the fabled NYC deli quality. The last
time, the maven of the day recommended Carnegie Deli. I was staying in
the next block, right opposite Carnegie Hall, so I tried it twice, once
for breakfast--lox, eggs & onions--and once for lunch--pastrami, cole
slaw & Russian sandwich. Both times it was awful! I guess I'll try
Katz's and the 2nd Ave deli next time. I hope it's not another 11 years,
though.
Meanwhile, the greatest deli food I've ever experienced personally comes
from Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, MI. They also do a big mail-order
business and have a wonderful catalog.
Again, thanks to all for suggestions.
Jim Boyk
trent
> Thanks to everyone for help. It sounds as though the deli scene in
> Chicago is almost as bad as here in Los Angeles, which frankly
> astonishes me. Someone mentioned a place called Ashkenazi (sp?), which
> I'm also checking out.
It's Ashkenaz, located on Cedar just east of State. Very good- but the
name is actually "Jewish-style deli" so YMMV. It's in a strip-mall that
is clearly NOT 50 years old.
trent
Richard Herrell
that was still in operation in the early 1970s. Great food. Often the
conversation at many of the other tables was in Russian. It closed in the
late 70s--a fire, as I recall. I can't fathom why a city with such a
large Jewish population such as Chicago doesn't have more great Jewish
deli food. Sam's on Broadway is not bad. The aroma of garlic pickles
hits you like 2 x 4 when you walk in.
H.
> Meanwhile, the greatest deli food I've ever experienced personally comes
> from Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, MI. They also do a big mail-order
> business and have a wonderful catalog.
I'm not sure that I'd call it "deli" food in the traditional sense, but
I agree that it's a great place, & worth planning a lunch into any trip
to Michigan. They have a WONDERFUL barbecue chicken with pepper bacon
sandwich. Be warned, the portions are huge, and that's reflected in the
prices. But worth every penny.
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Leonard Grossman
dance we would go there and get in line, waiting for a table. very busy...
more than once, we would wait so long my date would inform me it was getting
to her curfew... and I would walk her home without ever getting a table,...
saved a bundle that way...
Did I plan it that way? I'll never tell.
Len
In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.990629...@icarus.cc.uic.edu>,
Leonard Grossman <mailto:gros...@mcs.net>
David Silberberg
wrote:
>There was a deli called the Ashkenaz in Rodgers Park on Morse, I think,
>that was still in operation in the early 1970s. Great food. Often the
>conversation at many of the other tables was in Russian. It closed in the
>late 70s--a fire, as I recall. I can't fathom why a city with such a
>large Jewish population such as Chicago doesn't have more great Jewish
>deli food.
The great old delis we remember were there because of the
concentration of Jews in various areas of the city: Rogers Park,
Albany Park, the west side, etc. As Jews scattered to the suburbs,
the delis lost their base.
On the North Shore, which I am most familiar with, which had / has a
relatively large Jewish population, there was at least one good (not
great) deli in each town: Lenny's in Winnetka / Hubbard Woods;
Ricky's and Harry's (2) in Glencoe, Kips and one other, I think, in
Highland Park, can't think of one in Wilmette (and I'm sure there
wasn't one in Kenilworth). But this was when the towns were the
shopping focus of the community. When the focus shifted to the large
malls (Old Orchard first, NB Court, even Vernon Hills), these kinds of
restaurants (and coffee shops) lost their base and changed. Now I
can't think of a deli on the North Shore.
Dennis Suchta
two of my favorites at the Carnegie. You should check out Zabars. Its not a "eat in"
location but the deli selection defines the genre.
Dennis
James Boyk wrote:
> Rene G wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, I don't think there are any places like that around
> > anymore (but I would love to be proven wrong!). Maybe the closest would
> > be Manny's which claims to have been around since 1942.... I like Manny's very much
> and would have to agree that they serve the best corned beef sandwich in
> Chicago (though to put things into proper perspective, you really should
> try Katz's, Carnegie, or 2nd Avenue Deli in NYC).
>
> Thanks to everyone for help. It sounds as though the deli scene in
> Chicago is almost as bad as here in Los Angeles, which frankly
> astonishes me. Someone mentioned a place called Ashkenazi (sp?), which
> I'm also checking out.
>
> Each time I go to New York--not too frequently--I ask some deli maven of
> my acquaintance where I can find the fabled NYC deli quality. The last
> time, the maven of the day recommended Carnegie Deli. I was staying in
> the next block, right opposite Carnegie Hall, so I tried it twice, once
> for breakfast--lox, eggs & onions--and once for lunch--pastrami, cole
> slaw & Russian sandwich. Both times it was awful! I guess I'll try
> Katz's and the 2nd Ave deli next time. I hope it's not another 11 years,
> though.
>
> Meanwhile, the greatest deli food I've ever experienced personally comes
> from Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, MI. They also do a big mail-order
> business and have a wonderful catalog.
>
SYKoppel
It was the quintessential Deli of the 50's when I was growing up. The store was
long and narrow, with the counter in front. When you ordered soup, that had to
come from the kitchen, the waitresses would yell, "I'm going to Howard Street
to pick up a matzoh ball".
Their corned beef was the way I liked it, full of fat. It was served only on
Rosen's Rye, and I still remember the taste. Berghoff's rye bread,
interestingly enough, is the closest I have come to matching that flavor and
texture.
The wait was easily half an hour, any night, and an hour on Sunday morning.
Several wishful entrepreneurs tried to open up competing delis a few doors
away, they quickly closed for lack of business.
I still went there until the early seventies, but unfortunately, the
neighborhood changed, and their business closed sometime after that. I don't
know if the one on Cedar is related, except for the name, and I haven't ever
eaten there, so I can't vouch for the food.
SYKoppel
malls, Max and Benny's on Waukegan Road at the Tollway entrance north of Dundee
and the Bagel in Old Orchard are probably the best two deli's I know of in the
northern suburbs. I especially like the peppered sable at Max and Benny's and
their "platter" will feed four people with enough to take home for the next
morning.
It is sad, though, that if I want to get lox now in downtown Glencoe, I have
to tolerate an Einstein's Bagel.
Eric Holeman
>deli food. Sam's on Broadway is not bad. The aroma of garlic pickles
>hits you like 2 x 4 when you walk in.
Sam's smells great, but the proof is in the sandwich, and the CB is often
gristly. Ask for hot and they'll nuke it, with the mustard on it. :-P
Still, not bad for the money. And they should NOT have painted over the
old mural on the Stratford side of the building!
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Adam H. Kerman
>Anyone know how long Kaufmann's in Skokie has been around?
They haven't been there long enough. Although they sell some deli and a few
grocery items, they are a bakery. I liked their breads, but not their bagels.
Gordon McDougall
those at either the Carnegie or Stage Delis.
Gordon in Texas
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Neal Berz
was jewish (west side) but no longer is is Manny's Deli on Roosevelt
rd. Ask any Jewish chicagoan and they will know a bout it. It has
amazing corned beef, latkes, kishke, matzo ball soup and is packed every
day--by jews and gentiles alike. Ask around
Opera Buffa
>Each time I go to New York--not too frequently--I ask some deli maven of
>my acquaintance where I can find the fabled NYC deli quality. The last
>time, the maven of the day recommended Carnegie Deli. I was staying in
>the next block, right opposite Carnegie Hall, so I tried it twice, once
>for breakfast--lox, eggs & onions--and once for lunch--pastrami, cole
>slaw & Russian sandwich. Both times it was awful! I guess I'll try
>Katz's and the 2nd Ave deli next time. I hope it's not another 11 years,
>though.
Try Kaplan's at 59 E 59th (at the Delmonico). Terrific corned beef
sandwiches.
Karen (Opera Buffa)
What I know about opera is laughable.
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Ram255
street. There was also a great delicatessen on Jeffrey at 95th. Don't
remember the name. But, Ashenaz was my favorite too. Wasn't the Pickel Barrel
at Western and Howard? In later time, what about the early days of the Belden
Deli?
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ElGreene
>was the Pickle Barrel (Devon Avenue) ...
The Pickle Barrel was on Western & Howard. It wasn't exactly a deli, but more
of a restaurant with a deli influence.
>I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Batts Restaurant.
Batt's wasn't a deli either, but again it was a restaurant with some deli type
items on the menu. Batt's had a pretty colorful history. Besides the Capone
connection, it was a hangout for the R&B recording industry (Chess, Vee Jay,
etc.) that was based on S. Michigan in the 50's and 60's. Batt's also had a
connection with the White Sox. They did some catering for the Sox and would
provide a ride to and from Comiskey Park for fans who parked and ate at the
restaurant before the game.
Richard Herrell
sandwich. I ordered a CB/rye at the Unique. After they brought the
sandwich I asked for horseradish, an essential for me. The server looked
puzzled and said she'd see if they had any. Came back and said they
couldn't find any but there might be some in the basement. Came back 10
minutes later and said they didn't have any. My one and only experience
at the Unique.
David Silberberg
>>Ashkenaz was a great deli (when it was on Howard St.), so
>>was the Pickle Barrel (Devon Avenue) ...
>
>The Pickle Barrel was on Western & Howard. It wasn't exactly a deli, but more
>of a restaurant with a deli influence.
>
Wasn't the "original" Pickle Barrel on Wells in Old Town? Sawdust on
the floor, etc.?
Or am I thinking of some other restaurant....
Ed Boe
Piper's Alley in the late '60's? Had great pan pizza...
Ram255
Adam H. Kerman
like this:
Newsgroups: chi.eats,Jim,Boyk
In article <377A8C3D...@enteract.com>,
For those of you who haven't yet eaten there, but can get there for lunch
on a weekday, it's at 1141 S. Jefferson, at Roosevelt. It's less than a mile
walk from Chicago Union Station, but you can use the exercise, especially
after dining there.
Jeff Economy
> It sounds as though the deli scene in Chicago is almost as bad as here
> in Los Angeles, which frankly astonishes me.
In LA, have you checked out Canter's on Fairfax? The corned beef sandwich
(I think it's either the "Danny Thomas" or the "Danny Thomas II") is
still as big as your head.
Jeff
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I don't know from the ham, but the bacon's fine. The corned beef is
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owners, of course; they're in the business of making money. If you are
referring to Jews, you ought to know that most delis - and nearly all of the
ones in Chicago - are owned by Greeks. Not that it matters. This isn't the
place for ethnic/racial slurs, so beat it.
E. Mott
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Richard Herrell
Ada's. It's in the same block as Carson's, I believe--part of that new
boutique hotel. Both sandwiches and sitdown dinners. Had an excellent
salmon fillet. Open until midnight or one.
Jude Crouch
Just south of Madison. It looks promising, tho the prices seemed a
bit high. I'll make it a trip with someone special.
Jude
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Michael Sheehan
provided, the address of Perry's Deli is 180 North Franklin.
Mike
Michael Sheehan wrote in message ...
>No mention of Perry's? Perry is Jewish, and runs a deli, although the usual
>matzo ball soup-type fare is nowhere to be seen. They do roast their own
>meats, etc, and serve the biggest and IMHO best sandwiches in Chicago. Come
>REALLY hungry if you order a triple-decker. Perry's has a web site with all
>the menu stuff at www.perrysdeli.com.
>
>
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Esther A Mott
Carson's. It's NOT a Jewish deli; owned and run by Greeks. The "Jewish"
foods on it are not very good, either.
E. Mott