Re: Re: REF selfie

[rahul]

Good morning,

-->If law exists for Pc-PNDT, thats good. Atleast some guidelines do exist, so we as radiologists, may like to follow it. But major bulk is other category patients.
-->Like patients go for blood check investigations without any referral many a times, so if a radiologist agrees to take pain in analyzing old medical documents and making his own provisional diagnosis before imaging, then its an welfare initiative, its good for patient. Rather than roaming here and there, if patient first goes to a Doctor who is MD Radiology, the valuable time is saved.
-->Many other specialty doctors may not like it for the simple reason as this method cuts down their money making process.
-->Point not realted to issue being discussed- Radiology has grown a lot. Now a days, in most of the tricky cases, diagnosis is made only after imaging and lab investigations. Before imaging, the diagnosis remains surrounded by lot of "query" signs. Sometimes even 180 degree opposite diagnosis. And when the referring doctor is told about findings, he says...... "i know...... i know". 

Regards,

Rahul

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Dr.Vinod kumar <bjvin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Self referral is not allowed by radiologists for obstetric examination.
We need referral from any clinician and the xerox of referral form is also to be stored along with form-F & reports.
Many diagnostic centers in delhi are not doing obstetrics ultrasound without referral slips.

I agree with Dr bhavin's view that we are also clinicians, but thats not true in practice as law doesn't permit self referral in obstetrics ultrasound. We are under scrutiny of PC-PNDT Act.

Dr Vinod Kr
New delhi

On 11 Jan 2014 04:03, "veeren Sharma" <veere...@in.com> wrote:

Sir matter is not clear / where do we stand

what is <we radiologists can do self referal,> what does it mean

do we mean if patient come without refereal for direct USG exam (the word self referal ?stand for HER>

veerendra.sharma-Radiologist
DMC 15215
09760232350

---------- Original message ----------
From:"Mvkr"< drmv...@gmail.com >
Date: 10 Jan 14 03:24:28
Subject: Re: REF selfie
To: "refind...@googlegroups.com" <refind...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "refind...@googlegroups.com" <refind...@googlegroups.com>

Whether this question is with regard to pc-pndt or about radiologist as physician? I agree fully with bhavin. If it is regarding pc-pndt, we radiologists can do self referal, see pt advice usg test, do a registration with date and no and do the fetal study if pt is not having a prescription or has directly come to you. Patients consent with signature in register will be double safety.

Mvkrao

Sent from my iPhone

On 09-Jan-2014, at 6:17 pm, Bhavin Jankharia <bha...@jankharia.com> wrote:

Denying will not amount to negligence. A radiologist is also a doctor and a physician and has the right to decide what test to do when and on whom, assuming that the patient has asked our advice.

Bhavin

On 09-Jan-2014, at 7:43 AM, shefy <sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:

what should be the stand regarding self reference?
that is without any request or previous reports.
is denying will amount to negligence?

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Radiology Education Foundation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to refindiagrou...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to refind...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/refindiagroup.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Radiology Education Foundation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to refindiagrou...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to refind...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/refindiagroup.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Radiology Education Foundation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to refindiagrou...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to refind...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/refindiagroup.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Radiology Education Foundation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to refindiagrou...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to refind...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/refindiagroup.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Radiology Education Foundation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to refindiagrou...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to refind...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/refindiagroup.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[Hirdesh]

As per MCI, Radiology is a clinical specialty

All Radiologists are MBBS doctors first. If an MBBS can decide on a Radiological investigation, certainly a Radiologist can. By doing an additional Clinical Post Graduation, we do not loose the status of being a Bachelor in Medicine and Surgery.

Hirdesh Sahni