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Mike Henke  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 4:44 pm
From: Mike Henke <henkem...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
I upgraded Eclipse from 3.3 to 3.4. Zipped up my eclipse folder and
dropped in the 3.4 stuff.  Opened Eclipse up everything was broke
(views, resources, etc.) so through the command prompt I navigated to
the eclipse folder and run "eclipse -clean".  Everything seems fine
now.  Even running CFEclipse 1.3.2 beta.

The clean argument deletes any cached eclipse data, basically alows
eclipse to start fresh.


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Jim Priest  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 5:43 pm
From: "Jim Priest" <pri...@thecrumb.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:43:52 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
Interesting - line numbers, etc. showing up OK???

What plugins are you running?

Jim


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Mike Henke  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 5:59 pm
From: Mike Henke <henkem...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

On Jul 10, 4:43 pm, "Jim Priest" <pri...@thecrumb.com> wrote:

> Interesting - line numbers, etc. showing up OK???

Yes, for cfm and cfc files

> What plugins are you running?

list is kinda ugly but basically
Aptana
CF Frameworks 1.0.0
CFEclipse 1.3.2.beta
ColdFusion Extenstions for Eclipse 1.0.191910
MXUnit Test Runner
Mylyn
Subclipse
FusionDebug
and some odd stuff like regexutil, antexplorer, etc


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Stephen Moretti  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 6:13 pm
From: "Stephen Moretti" <stephen.more...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:13:03 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

2008/7/10 Mike Henke <henkem...@gmail.com>:

You know since I installed and set up the JEE version of eclipse 3.4 I've
done away with Aptana and I don't miss it one little bit.  Only thing I
thought about today (after a couple of months of using 3.4) was jQuery
support in the javascript tools, but I can live with the "errors" because it
doesn't understand jQuery javascript.

Stephen


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Jim Priest  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 6:21 pm
From: "Jim Priest" <pri...@thecrumb.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:21:13 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
That mimics my setup as well.  Hopefully next week I'll have a bit
more time to tinker with 3.4

Jim


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Michael Benner  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 6:46 pm
From: Michael Benner <refriedchic...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:46:35 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

I just downloaded Ganymede JEE version and installed 1.3.2beta and so  
far (haven't done other plugins yet) it has line numbers and folding,  
but no "content assist", but I never used it anyway, I just keep  
cfdocs AIR app running for reference when I need it.

On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Stephen Moretti wrote:


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Jim Priest  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 6:50 pm
From: "Jim Priest" <pri...@thecrumb.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:50:59 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Stephen Moretti

<stephen.more...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You know since I installed and set up the JEE version of eclipse 3.4 I've
> done away with Aptana and I don't miss it one little bit.  Only thing I

Only thing I use Aptana for is the CSS editor.  If I could find
something similar I'd dump it too.  I've tried the WTP or whatever
it's called but the CSS edit in that didn't offer content assist like
Aptana.

Jim


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Charlie Griefer  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 6:53 pm
From: "Charlie Griefer" <charlie.grie...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:53:49 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jim Priest <pri...@thecrumb.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Stephen Moretti
> <stephen.more...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You know since I installed and set up the JEE version of eclipse 3.4 I've
>> done away with Aptana and I don't miss it one little bit.  Only thing I

> Only thing I use Aptana for is the CSS editor.  If I could find
> something similar I'd dump it too.  I've tried the WTP or whatever
> it's called but the CSS edit in that didn't offer content assist like
> Aptana.

yeah, i did the WTP in hopes of getting rid of Aptana for the CSS
stuff.  Unfortunately, the WTP CSS editor is way too basic.  I did
discover that I dig their XML editor tho, so that was kind of a win.

still searching for something to make me stop thinking about
installing Aptana for CSS :(

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wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I
thought you looked a bit off."


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Charlie Griefer  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 7:01 pm
From: "Charlie Griefer" <charlie.grie...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:01:03 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Stephen Moretti

<stephen.more...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You know since I installed and set up the JEE version of eclipse 3.4 I've
> done away with Aptana and I don't miss it one little bit.  Only thing I
> thought about today (after a couple of months of using 3.4) was jQuery
> support in the javascript tools, but I can live with the "errors" because it
> doesn't understand jQuery javascript.

> Stephen

tried JSEclipse for JS?  even when I had Aptana installed for CSS, i
used JSEclipse for JS.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/jseclipse/

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wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I
thought you looked a bit off."


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Mike Henke  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 9:05 pm
From: Mike Henke <henkem...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
update: Michael Benner is correct, i don't have "content assist" with
1.3.2.beta, guess it is back to the stable CFEclipse version I can't
live without like him :-)

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 More options Jul 10 2008, 9:48 pm
From: denstar <valliants...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:48:39 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Mike Henke wrote:

> update: Michael Benner is correct, i don't have "content assist" with
> 1.3.2.beta, guess it is back to the stable CFEclipse version I can't
> live without like him :-)

Weird.  Works fine for me.  3.4-- well, pretty close to you, but with
UML and TPTP and whatnot...  quickrex instead of regexutil...

We can replicate a clean install during the build process by clearing
the runtime workspace metadata... if I take a stab at that "quick"
word wrap fix I'll see what happens when I turn that setting on.  Or,
better, I'll make a new runtime just for testing that.  Yup.  That's
the ticket!

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any other thing for his study but war and it's organization and
discipline, for that is the only art that is necessary to one who
commands.
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 9:55 pm
From: denstar <valliants...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:55:04 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
er... JSEclipse is easer... yep


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 More options Jul 10 2008, 9:54 pm
From: denstar <valliants...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:54:34 -0600
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Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Stephen Moretti wrote:
> You know since I installed and set up the JEE version of eclipse 3.4 I've
> done away with Aptana and I don't miss it one little bit.  Only thing I
> thought about today (after a couple of months of using 3.4) was jQuery
> support in the javascript tools, but I can live with the "errors" because it
> doesn't understand jQuery javascript.

You set up the built-in JSDT stuff?  Comes with JEE, and It should do
auto-jQuery whatnots too, once you get the sources and whathaveyou
linked in there.

It is a bitch, so I should blog it.

Man...  =]

JSEdit is easier, but man, check out JSDT's options!  Nice.

:Den
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ability to lay them afterwards, but they will be laid with trouble to
the architect and danger to the building.
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Michael Benner  
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 More options Jul 10 2008, 11:00 pm
From: Michael Benner <refriedchic...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:00:05 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 10 2008 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
Fwiw, the content assist broke in eclipse 3.3 with the beta for me as  
well. I plan on spending some time testing different installs to try  
fix it.

Mike Benner
pipelineSuite.com

On Jul 10, 2008, at 18:48, denstar <valliants...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Dan G. Switzer, II  
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 More options Jul 11 2008, 7:49 am
From: "Dan G. Switzer, II" <dswit...@pengoworks.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:49:45 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 7:49 am
Subject: RE: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

>Only thing I use Aptana for is the CSS editor.  If I could find
>something similar I'd dump it too.  I've tried the WTP or whatever
>it's called but the CSS edit in that didn't offer content assist like
>Aptana.

I really find Aptana's JS editor heads and shoulders better than anything
else out there. I use Aptana for any of my CSS and JS files. I had tried a
number of JS editors in the past and really never found something I really
liked until I found Aptana. I guess different strokes for different folks.
:)

-Dan


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 More options Jul 11 2008, 12:39 pm
From: "Charlie Griefer" <charlie.grie...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:39:14 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Dan G. Switzer, II

<dswit...@pengoworks.com> wrote:

>>Only thing I use Aptana for is the CSS editor.  If I could find
>>something similar I'd dump it too.  I've tried the WTP or whatever
>>it's called but the CSS edit in that didn't offer content assist like
>>Aptana.

> I really find Aptana's JS editor heads and shoulders better than anything
> else out there. I use Aptana for any of my CSS and JS files. I had tried a
> number of JS editors in the past and really never found something I really
> liked until I found Aptana. I guess different strokes for different folks.
> :)

I agree that Aptana's better than JSEclipse, but JSEclipse is still
very very good.  And JSEclipse doesn't try to take over my Eclipse
install by putting a "message inbox" or "upgrade to pro" in my chrome.

Shame there's still no other decent CSS editor.

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Dan G. Switzer, II  
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 More options Jul 11 2008, 1:28 pm
From: "Dan G. Switzer, II" <dswit...@pengoworks.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:28:24 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 1:28 pm
Subject: RE: FYI - upgrade problems try clean argument

>> I really find Aptana's JS editor heads and shoulders better than anything
>> else out there. I use Aptana for any of my CSS and JS files. I had tried
>a
>> number of JS editors in the past and really never found something I
>really
>> liked until I found Aptana. I guess different strokes for different
>folks.
>> :)

>I agree that Aptana's better than JSEclipse, but JSEclipse is still
>very very good.  And JSEclipse doesn't try to take over my Eclipse
>install by putting a "message inbox" or "upgrade to pro" in my chrome.

>Shame there's still no other decent CSS editor.

I barely notice those things in my chrome--and I'm willing to live with it
since it's free.

I guess for me the benefits far out way any disadvantages.

-Dan


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