Install CF8 Extension problems
Doug
Eclipse: 3.4.0
Adobe extension 1.0.191910
Java: Latest version from update last week. 1.6.0.07-b06
I tried reinstalling Eclipse/CFEclipse and when I tried to install the
CF8 Extension from Adobe I get the following error.
"the software items you selected may not be valid with your current
installation."
Cannot complete the request. See the details.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Cannot find a solution where both Match[requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.3.1.5,1.3.1.5]]
and Match[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]] can be satisfied.
Unsatisfied dependency:
[org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit.feature.feature.group 1.0.4]
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/
org.cfeclipse.cfml.cfunit/[1.0.4,1.0.4]
I had CFEclipse up and running until yesterday but when I tried the
CFEclipse beta the program refused to start. So I deleted the eclipse
directory and am trying to reinstall the stable version again.
Thanks,
Doug
Jim Priest
>
> CFEclipse: 1.3.1.5
> Eclipse: 3.4.0
> Adobe extension 1.0.191910
> Java: Latest version from update last week. 1.6.0.07-b06
Doug - 3.4 is fairly new and CFE has some issues with it.
Download Eclipse 3.3 (Europa) and you should have a much better user
experience...
Jim
Doug
Thanks. I installed Europa and it is working much better. It appears
to have fixed both problems I've asked about.
- Dictionary view now scrolls as it should
- CF8 Extensions installed
Thanks again,
Doug
On Aug 5, 10:29 pm, "Jim Priest" <pri...@thecrumb.com> wrote:
Jim Priest
update both the wiki and the main site with a note about 3.4...
Jim
Mark Drew
version of Eclipse, it breaks CFE... sounds like my yearly task to do
this... how boring
MD
--
Mark Drew
Blog: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew
Rick Faircloth
or the cost of two large, two-topping pizzas from Papa John's :o)
and Mark can afford to work on, or hire someone to work on, the CFE project. Heck,
I'd pay $100 per year for a subscription to cutting-edge, always updated, always
completely functional software that is the core of my business productivity.
One of my big concerns about "software that is given away" is that the author may, at some point,
find himself without time to maintain the software I use to make my living.
I'm constantly trying to understand the "open source" philosophy. I can understand it for
small apps, but something as demanding as CFE has to be...I would have to charge for all the
time I would need to spend on keeping it a good product.
< 2 hours pass... >
Went away for awhile before finishing this and, among other things, found the discussion
on Mark's site last year about how to finance CFEclipse.
Two Questions:
How many current users of CFEclipse are there?
Did anything ever come of the ideas discussed to get funding for CFE?
Rick
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Charlie Griefer
One of my big concerns about "software that is given away" is that the author may, at some point,
find himself without time to maintain the software I use to make my living.
--
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off."
Brad Bourne
Rick Faircloth: If someone would like to profit from the current code
base, they can branch out a paid version of CFEclipse afaik (see
licensing ) If Mark has too much on his plate; maybe Denny would
consider taking the CFEclipse lead or?
As far as the "open source" comment goes, the benefits of FOSS have
been discussed ad nauseum on many other venues, and is very off topic
for this group in my opinion.
Thanks.
>
> > >> Jim,
>
> > >> Thanks. I installed Europa and it is working much better. It appears
> > >> to have fixed both problems I've asked about.
>
> > >> - Dictionary view now scrolls as it should
> > >> - CF8 Extensions installed
>
> > >> Thanks again,
> > >> Doug
>
> > --
> > Mark Drew
> > Blog:http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/
> > LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew
>
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Rick Faircloth
> If Mark has too much on his plate; maybe Denny would
> consider taking the CFEclipse lead or?
so Mark can make his vision and passion for this project a viable business.
I get rewarded by his hard work every time I open CFE. Why is it a bad
thing if Mark should start charging for the product and have even more
time to devote to its functionality, stability, and success?
And since this is FOSS software we're discussing and I'd like for this
software to have a bright future if I'm going to depend on it as my primary
tool for making a living, I think its management and future is certainly
of primary concern for this group.
And why do you want to burden someone else with 2-4 hours every day to maintain
software that you use? You don't think they deserve some benefit from their work?
Do you expect to be paid for your work? If I'm going to depend on this software
for my livelihood, then I'd like to know someone can afford to give it their
best efforts, not just leftover time. And if I were in Mark's position, I wouldn't
want to give control of my software to some board just so their money could be
thrown into the project. I'd like Mark to keep his own vision front and center
without having it effectiveness diminished by the debilitating work of a committee.
And I apologize to whoever's thread I hi-jacked with my comments. They were just
meant to support Mark when he remarked about the drudgery of having to constantly
update CFE for every new version of Eclipse.
Rick Faircloth
Ø your current install would still work, hence you could still make a
Only until I need to catch up with changes to CF or Eclipse in CFE.
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Subject: [cfeclipse-users] Re: Install CF8 Extension problems
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Rick Faircloth <Ri...@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:
Charlie Griefer
Ø your current install would still work, hence you could still make a
Only until I need to catch up with changes to CF or Eclipse in CFE.
b) nature abhors a vacuum. if it went away, and nobody else picked it up, something would fill the void.
c) c'mon. it took you 7 years to catch up to the changes in CF. who you kidding? :D
Tom Lenz
Well spoken. I'd be willing to invest dollars (err, pounds). An alternate
idea might be to get cash to Mark to give him more time to simply manage
CFE, and he could farm out the gruntwork to others.
Tom
Brad Bourne
However, if I followed you, I would be paying for Eclipse as well as
Nginx and MySQL and CentOS and Varnish.
So, I wont speak to the beginnings of CFEclipse, it's founding concept
or it's originating code nor will I comment on what I believe
CFEclipse should be or what Mark needs to do with his time, but I will
say: no one is forcing you to use CFEclipse; you have retail
alternatives. Lastly, I will ask, is CFEclipse's management and future
in jeopardy? If it is, I wasn't aware of it.
Rick Faircloth
> An alternate
> idea might be to get cash to Mark to give him more time to simply manage
> CFE, and he could farm out the gruntwork to others.
True. If we were to pay Mark a subscription fee each year, then he could
decide whether to code the product himself, or hire coders to do the work
he assigns them, or both. Perhaps take on a partner who would be intimately
involved with CFE's development so that either one would be able to keep
the development going should either one be run over by that proverbial train.
I was just about ready to spend $50 for UltraEdit, but found it lacking
in some prominent ways. Its attraction, in part, was that it is a file editor,
and not a project manager, which I prefer in some ways. Software that is
going to act as a manager of my files needs to perform *very* well before
I trust it with my business.
But CFE is a much better, more well-rounded and integrated product and besides,
it is targeted toward my language of choice, CFML. But it does concern me
when I see Jim express difficulty in keeping the wiki up-to-date and Mark
express, even jokingly, his "boredom" with keeping CFE up-to-date with
Eclipse. Right now the list seems to dealing with a mass of "I can't get
CFE to work correctly!" issues, mostly because CFE isn't compatible with the
latest Eclipse release.
Every vision gets tiresome over the long haul, and eventually there needs
to be some reward that keeps driving the train other than, "Thanks Mark, for
your years of hard work! I really like using your software! And I *really*
like that I don't have to pay you anything for it!".
I'd rather everyone pay a subscription fee, make Mark very rich from his product,
and let Adobe salivate over the profits lost from not supporting it more fully
when they could, rather than beg at the feet of Adobe, et al, for some crumbs
from their coffers.
Jim Priest
Mark but I get the feeling the problems are more about manpower than
money. Other than a few contributors (Denny!) there hasn't been a
huge number of people stepping up to the plate to contribute code.
FWIW - There *IS* a donate button on the CFEclipse site. I just added
one to the home page as well :) and I'm looking at setting up
recurring donations - this would let you contribute smaller amounts
over longer periods of time which may appeal to some folks?
Jim
larryclyons
basis, MyEclipse by Genuitech and Aptana come immediately to mind.
MyEclipse charges either $30 or $60 a year, put provide a lot of added
value. Same with Aptana. Don't get me wrong here, my work would be
severely crippled if I stopped using CFEclipse, but I don't think that
its provides the same degree added value that either Aptana or
MyEclipse provides.
That said I'm quite willing to buy a subscription to CFEclipse.
regards,
larry
Rick Faircloth
c) c'mon. it took you 7 years to catch up to the changes in CF. who you kidding? :D
C’mon Charlie! I’m trying to be a bleeding edge man now!
(Windows has just trained me to wait until the bleeding edge is 7 years old! :o)
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Subject: [cfeclipse-users] Re: Install CF8 Extension problems
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Rick Faircloth
> money.
code, which I'm not capable of at this point, I've got my own projects
to work on and would rather pay someone who is able to provide the tools
I need to do that work.
As far as donating is concerned, the problem is one of insufficient donations.
If only a few donate, then not enough money is raised to sustain the project
monetarily, and eventually those donations are wasted because they were insufficient.
If everyone were *required* to donate to use the product through subscriptions,
then the market for CFE would shake itself out and CFE would thrive or fail accordingly.
And, anyone, as I did with CF 4 for about 7 years, could decide to stop paying the
subscription and still have a useful product, and then upgrade once they want new
compatibilities and functionality. Have a beginning $50 purchase, followed by
$25 annual subscriptions for the latest product. If 3 years go by without subscription
renewal, then the customer must pay the $50 again. After a decade of use, a user would
have spend the grand total of $275, much less than the cost of Dreamweaver.
One of the biggest losses I read about in Mark's online discussion of this issue from
last year, is the fact that businesses and even larger corporations don't *donate* small
sums of money. They want to be charged and then pay the bill. They are perfectly willing
to pay "per seat" and pay well. Give them the opportunity to be parted with their money!
btw, anyone know how many users of CFE there are right now?
Rick
PS - And there seems to be a good reason why this discussion comes up every year...it's
driving everyone crazy trying to figure out how to keep the product and its support in
tip-top shape with no return on the investment to do so!
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Tom Lenz
Rick
> I was just about ready to spend $50 for UltraEdit, but found it lacking
> in some prominent ways. Its attraction, in part, was that it is a file
> editor,
> and not a project manager, which I prefer in some ways. Software that is
> going to act as a manager of my files needs to perform *very* well before
> I trust it with my business.
>
> But CFE is a much better, more well-rounded and integrated product and
> besides,
> it is targeted toward my language of choice, CFML.
CFE has totally ruined me. Maybe a real good editor would have pulled me off
of it in the past, but not now. For example, I lean heavily on the subclipse
integration and would hate to do without that. To me the compare editor is
really good. A few days ago I used it to copy some changes over from another
version of a file and it took all of about 5 minutes. Although there may be
a few defects here and there in CFE, there's a whole mountain of stuff that
works really well.
One thing though, some of the problems are in eclipse itself, not CFE. Like
not being able to look at the same file from two different editor windows.
No matter how much manpower you bought for CFE, some of those other things
wouldn't change.
Tom
Tom Lenz
> FWIW - There *IS* a donate button on the CFEclipse site.
The transaction went through for me but in the end I got this:
File not found: /maxthanks.cfm
Resources:
a.. Enable Robust Exception Information to provide greater detail
about the source of errors. In the Administrator, click Debugging & Logging
> Debug Output Settings, and select the Robust Exception Information option.
b.. Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using
the correct syntax.
c.. Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.
Rick Faircloth
is a bear of a problem.
Speaking of UltraEdit, to be able to use a compare function and actually
make changes instead of just viewing differences, I would have to pay another
$25 for their "UltraCompare" product. But I was close to pulling the trigger
and spending the $75 for the two products. But, like you, I just found
UltraEdit to be missing too many things I wanted to use that CFE has, like
SVN integration and compare. However, I want to know that there's a dedicated
team behind that product taking care of business so I can take care of my own
without worrying about whether the tools of my trade are going to continue
working the next time Eclipse comes out with another big upgrade I need.
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Rick Faircloth
to see it continue in an even stronger manner.
As far as Adobe's IDE goes, I'd rather make Mark rich. :o)
Rick
Jim Priest
>
> i'd say just use dreamweaver until adobe comes out with their IDE for CF.
>
But that has been rumored to be happening forever. And is one reason
I think many people are sitting on the fence. Adobe keeps teasing us
but never commit if they are actually working on anything.
That really frustrates me to no end BTW. If they committed to
something we wouldn't have to have these conversations over and over.
We'd either know
A. we just have to wait X months and we can use the Adobe IDE
or
B. we need to chip in some cash and get Mark some support because
there is NO Adobe IDE.
Instead we're stuck in limbo land not sure of what's going on...
Jim
Jim Priest
Jim Priest
My big concern now (which I've written about before) is if Adobe DOES
come out with an IDE - will it support the other CFML engines? I'd
rather see an open IDE that supports ALL the CFML engines.
Jim
Rick Faircloth
Yes, I promise I have nothing but good will in mind for all of us.
And, I will say that I am a user of MySQL...freely...and I'm grateful
for it. However, that's not to say I wouldn't pay an annual fee for its use,
if necessary for the product's viability.
I tend to get frustrated with the "let's give it all away, use it freely, and
hope we can somehow survive" approach. At some point, that model just breaks down...
usually around the time the power bill is due and there's no money to pay it.
I just feel badly for those such as Mark, et al, who know enough to create
a widely used product, but not get sufficient compensation, especially when
it may jeopardize the future of the product.
And, no, I'm not saying it's going anywhere, I just have been picking up on
clues that there's not enough time and money to keep going.
What may end up happening is that after Mark's blood, sweat, tears, and money
has been spent showing what can be done with a CF IDE, Adobe will have watched
and learned and then will swoop in with their own product with similar features
and sell it for $200 and make a fortune, leaving Mark "high and dry."
Rick
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> To: CFEclipse Users
>
>
Mark Drew
the main reason I got involved in coding CFEclipse was because I wanted a feature in it. I didn't know much java, but had been trying to learn for a while and with some pointers, I found a way to add that feature. From there I added more features and managed to fix bugs etc.
I am (personally not with view of the project) fairly happy with CFEclipse on a day to day basis. there is nothing that annoys me totally... so I dont go round fixing it.
I say this again and again, If there is something you dont like in it.. try and get involved and you all have my IM and email (if not its pretty obvious.. its my gmail account) and I can help you and give you pointers..
The usual responses I get from that are:
a) I dont know java: well, you ARE a coder right? and java is sometimes easier and there are LOADS of resources to get some of it done... and I am no L337 java coder myself
b) I dont have the time: Right, well.. you think I bum around all day? I do a CF job all day which I am pretty well into, like going out, I am pretty social, and I am sure people that know me personally know I like to party and have a tipple or two... so I like living, not coding for someone else for free.
Donating money to the project is much appreciated, but in all seriousness, unless some miracle happens (and I am not asking people to donate) and the donations become more than I earn, THEN I would dedicate myself to it full time... otherwise roof/beer etc would get neglected and that would be a bad thing.
If/When Adobe release a CFIDE, I would still carry this project on, BECAUSE I CAN. It means that if there is a bug, I can fix it, I can make it do things that Adobe/Another company couldn't do in the time. And I think there shouldn't be one IDE out there, there should be choice... right?
Anyway...
Not to sound too negative, but moving forward... how can we get more people invovled in the project, fixing bugs etc.? I just got a comment in a bug along the lines of:
This tickit is quite old and has had no notes for 7 months. What is theAnd my grouchy instinct would be to respond with "Whenever it bugs me and I have a big file" Since I dont have big files, well.. not bothered in fixing this, but if you are... then fix it.
progress on a solution for this issue?
I am getting frustrated to the point of uninstalling Eclipse and moving to
a new editor if this remains an issue much longer.
Could you please give us some indication of your progress / expected
resolution to this issue?
Damn, I sound grouchy dont I? I dont mean to be, its just people to understand that I am not "Mr Nice" and I do this for you all, I do this because I LIKE CFEclipse as my tool of choice. And as long as its helping ME I will be working on it.
Greg Luce
Mark Drew
So which OS do you want it for? I use mac... so I have to do the windows one too.. .ok.. fine.. then ... Vista or XP? OS X 32bit? 64bit? Intel? How about the linux user our there (yep, there is only one and he will complain)
MD
Nando
Are there repetitive tasks that, given an example and a small bit of training, almost anyone could do? For instance, maintaining the tag library or dialog boxes? I hear you that we're all coders. Would you be into giving an online presentation how you go about improving cfeclipse to help get us over the initial hump and into doing something productive?
Nando M. Breiter
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Jim Priest
> about the linux user our there (yep, there is only one and he will complain)
Cough. :)
Jim
Greg Luce
Greg
Jim Priest
> I guess its time for me to chip in...
> Damn, I sound grouchy dont I? I dont mean to be, its just people to
> understand that I am not "Mr Nice" and I do this for you all, I do this
> because I LIKE CFEclipse as my tool of choice. And as long as its helping ME
> I will be working on it.
Mark - thanks for the candid answer!!!
Jim
Rick Faircloth
I just wanted to say “Thanks” for the lead on your friend’s build.
It’s been working perfectly so far. And boy is it nice not to have
to pick through the hundreds of installs that are involved, especially
since I have no idea what most of the specifics of the installs mean.
Perhaps we could come up with a “checklist of functionality” for users
to check and then have a custom build by knowledgeable Eclipse and CFEclipse
users to gather the plugins, create the build, and then charge $25 for the service.
Just put it together and sell me the package I need. Saves me $500 in time.
The problem for me has been just the overwhelming amount of knowledge I was (am)
lacking about Eclipse, CFEclipse, all the other plug-ins like Aptana, SVN, etc.
I wasn’t even sure what I needed, much less what to “plug-in”. I didn’t even
know what SVN was before tinkering with CFE. It’s a big leap from Homesite 5.5
to the vast, immersive universe of Eclipse and the way all the “big-wigs” in the
business do all this stuff! :o)
How about selling that service for support, Mark? I’d be first to sign up!
Rick
Rick Faircloth
bottom line first. And CFE is a great blueprint for their new IDE, if
it's not vaporware.
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Rick Faircloth
Ø Right, well.. you think I bum around all day?
Yes, Mark, we are all well aware that you are a lazy, beer-bellied,
roof-leaking, scum-bucket…but we like CFE, so we tolerate you. :o)
Actually, I know you’re busy and CFE takes too much time to maintain
and support by yourself. 2-4 hours every day! Yikes!
But if I can get you $25 annually from every user (including every seat
in corporations) could you devote full-time to CFE?
Look, if Adobe *ever* comes out with a full-blown CF IDE with the features
of CFE, full support and maintenance, do you think CFE will survive?
I know you’ll use it, and perhaps I will too, but why not get ahead of the
Adobe train and compete with them? It’s obvious people love the product!
Come on, you lazy bum! Get rich!
Rick
PS – I think your first help should not be from a coder, but from a business manager. :o)
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To: cfeclip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfeclipse-users] Re: Let's Pay for CFEclipse... was: Install
CF8 Extension problems
I guess its time for me to chip
in...
Jim Priest
> Are there repetitive tasks that, given an example and a small bit of
> training, almost anyone could do? For instance, maintaining the tag library
> or dialog boxes? I hear you that we're all coders. Would you be into giving
> an online presentation how you go about improving cfeclipse to help get us
> over the initial hump and into doing something productive?
This is a great idea - and one I've mentioned before... I know for
example the CFMX8 dictionary needs work - there are some tags that
don't validate correctly, etc.
http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/wiki/Contribute
But so far no one has stepped up to the plate to modify that...
Jim
Jim Priest
to manage this...
The big hangup is things like the Adobe ColdFusion plugins - I'm not
sure what license they are released under - but I don't think the
Pulse folks ever worked anything out with Adobe to redistribute those.
So regardless of what kind of 'bundle' you put together - you'd still
have some things to install.
http://www.poweredbypulse.com/profile_detail.php?blueprint_id=rb-2&realm_id=2
Looking at it - it doesn't appear Aptana ever came on board either.
So there are unfortunately some legal wrangling involved with this
too...
Jim
Charlie Griefer
I've been making a few changes to my dictionary file as i encounter missing attributes. i'd be happy to add them to the wiki. i didn't realize there was a "master file" that we could all update.
btw... does the wiki page with the .xml file display funky for anybody else? in FF3 it seems to only display about half (?) of the text... then a ginormous amt of whitespace. (http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/wiki/cf8.xml)
so... how does one request access to modify that page (or did i just do that)? :)
Jim Priest
to handle that...
Mark - any ideas on how to handle that? Could I be granted read/write
access to the repo?
I could then maintain some of these one off files without having to
bother you...
Charlie - to edit any of the Trac pages - simply setup an account:
http://trac.cfeclipse.org/cfeclipse/register
Jim
Nando
Mark Drew
goes.. .this is something I have started many times, but there are
times that it gets too complicated (or I get bored.. hehe)
think of this.. .a web application (know anyone that can build one of
those?) That you can select a CFML Version (CF5-8, Railo, BD etc )
then select a tag, function or scope item and then edit or add a new
item.
this should be password protected so that only contributors can add items.
The main point of this app would be that you could export dictionaries
and keep them updated, either by releases or by downloading it
yourself.
so there is the challange and tiny spec. Look in Eclipse's plugin
directory for org.cfeclipse.cfml.xxxx/dictionary/ folder and look for
dictionaryconfig.xml
You will see anumber of <grammar location="cf8.xml" /> entries. They
all relate to a dictionary file.
Now, the UI is important in this and this is where I have failed to
come up with something... since (especially for tags) you have to
define triggers for some attributes, in other words "this attribute
becomes required when the value of other attributes is..."
so once that is done, everyone can get involved in adding
documentation, fixing tags, adding functions etc.
On a side note, something I want to look into is to see how I can make
the dictionaries themeselves separate projects, which would mean you
could install CFEclipse and only install the dictionaries you want.
Then if we upgrade or add other dictionaries, you would only have to
update those.
Hope that gives people out there some ideas!
MD
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Jim Priest
> The main point of this app would be that you could export dictionaries
> and keep them updated, either by releases or by downloading it
> yourself.
So it would be like a dictionary 'wizard' it would ask a few
questions - you'd push a button and it would generate a dictionary
file for you?
> so once that is done, everyone can get involved in adding
> documentation, fixing tags, adding functions etc.
Then there would also be an admin section for adding/editing tag syntax?
> On a side note, something I want to look into is to see how I can make
> the dictionaries themeselves separate projects, which would mean you
> could install CFEclipse and only install the dictionaries you want.
> Then if we upgrade or add other dictionaries, you would only have to
> update those.
I like this idea a lot - and maybe if we did this we could shovel this
responsibility off to the developers of each language :)
Jim
larryclyons
willing to contribute.
larry
Jim Priest
>
> Let us know when its fixed Jim. I'm sure that there are quite a few
> willing to contribute.
The donation button always worked. I think it is setup at PayPal to
redirect you to a "thank you" page which was missing - I probably
toasted it when I re-did the site. I've since added that so it
should be all working now...
Jim
Nando
I like the idea of using cfwindow to popup a modular window over the tree structure of tags, functions or scopes to edit the XML for the dictionary. Very simple to implement use of Ajax to prevent the reloading of a long list of tags or functions.
It seems we'd also need to implement some sort of editing lock on Dictionary Items to prevent users from possibly overwritting each other's contributions. A simple search interface to open an editing window would be very helpful. And of course we'd need the Export XML function. Someone with the permission to do so would have the ability to import an XML Dictionary file and the application would parse the file and place the entries in the right locations in the database. Also, someone with the permission to do so would be able to add users and set their permissions.
Let's see, we need:
ColdFusionVersion
coldFusionVersionId
coldFusionVersionName (CF5-8, Railo, BD etc )
LanguageFeature
languageFeatureId
coldFusionVersionId
languageFeatureName (tag, function, scope)
DictionaryItem
dictionaryItemId
languageFeatureId
dictionaryItemName (cfset, trim, session, etc)
dictionaryItemNotes (the comments documenting the tag to assist in completing the XML
dictionaryItemEntry (the xml needed)
User
userId
name
passwordHash
permissionKeys
Doesn't look too difficult. What am I missing/forgetting. I didn't quite get the part about the UI dealing with triggers. Mark, does that apply to this application or the specification for the XML?