Hi, I have a rooted Sony Ericsson Neo (android 2.3.4) I downloaded the hidden version (zip) that i have installed with CWM. It works well. I have tried to send a SMS from another cellphone, it has a result (example : cerberus my_pass enabledata, i got a response) however the first sms should not be displayed. The command works. I use GO SMS and i check the help section and It is not the bug I have. In my stock messaging, I can also see the command. I thought Cerberus does something to hide it, however it doesn't seem to work on my phone. Can you help me?
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Ben John <okdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a rooted Sony Ericsson Neo (android 2.3.4)
> I downloaded the hidden version (zip) that i have installed with CWM.
> It works well. I have tried to send a SMS from another cellphone, it has a
> result (example : cerberus my_pass enabledata, i got a response) however
> the first sms should not be displayed.
> The command works. I use GO SMS and i check the help section and It is not
> the bug I have. In my stock messaging, I can also see the command.
> I thought Cerberus does something to hide it, however it doesn't seem to
> work on my phone. Can you help me?
I am having this same problem. I noticed it was hiding the SMS messages in the previous version. But since I upgraded to the latest version, it no longer hides them. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling handcent sms just in case, but no change. Is there a solution for this issue?
On Friday, August 31, 2012 6:22:50 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
> I think I just replied to your email, correct?
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Ben John <okdr...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Hi, >> I have a rooted Sony Ericsson Neo (android 2.3.4) >> I downloaded the hidden version (zip) that i have installed with CWM. >> It works well. I have tried to send a SMS from another cellphone, it has >> a result (example : cerberus my_pass enabledata, i got a response) however >> the first sms should not be displayed. >> The command works. I use GO SMS and i check the help section and It is >> not the bug I have. In my stock messaging, I can also see the command. >> I thought Cerberus does something to hide it, however it doesn't seem to >> work on my phone. Can you help me?
If you don't find a way to solve the problem by playing a little with
Handcent notification settings, I'm sorry but the only solution would be to
uninstall Handcent. Unfortunately these apps set the priority for the SMS
receiver too high, so they intercept all messages before they can reach
other applications like Cerberus.
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Brain <brian.ram...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am having this same problem. I noticed it was hiding the SMS messages
> in the previous version. But since I upgraded to the latest version, it no
> longer hides them. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling handcent sms just in
> case, but no change. Is there a solution for this issue?
> On Friday, August 31, 2012 6:22:50 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
>> I think I just replied to your email, correct?
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Ben John <okdr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I have a rooted Sony Ericsson Neo (android 2.3.4)
>>> I downloaded the hidden version (zip) that i have installed with CWM.
>>> It works well. I have tried to send a SMS from another cellphone, it has
>>> a result (example : cerberus my_pass enabledata, i got a response) however
>>> the first sms should not be displayed.
>>> The command works. I use GO SMS and i check the help section and It is
>>> not the bug I have. In my stock messaging, I can also see the command.
>>> I thought Cerberus does something to hide it, however it doesn't seem to
>>> work on my phone. Can you help me?
ok, so i uninstalled HC and you were correct the app was intercepting the messages before the stock app had a chance to hide them. once I uninstalled HC, the messages were not received by the stock app which is the only test i did not perform (hitting my head now). i apologize for not seeing this solution earlier and I appreciate your support.
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:43:16 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
> If you don't find a way to solve the problem by playing a little with > Handcent notification settings, I'm sorry but the only solution would be to > uninstall Handcent. Unfortunately these apps set the priority for the SMS > receiver too high, so they intercept all messages before they can reach > other applications like Cerberus.
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Brain <brian....@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>> I am having this same problem. I noticed it was hiding the SMS messages >> in the previous version. But since I upgraded to the latest version, it no >> longer hides them. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling handcent sms just in >> case, but no change. Is there a solution for this issue?
>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 6:22:50 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
>>> I think I just replied to your email, correct?
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Ben John <okdr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, >>>> I have a rooted Sony Ericsson Neo (android 2.3.4) >>>> I downloaded the hidden version (zip) that i have installed with CWM. >>>> It works well. I have tried to send a SMS from another cellphone, it >>>> has a result (example : cerberus my_pass enabledata, i got a response) >>>> however the first sms should not be displayed. >>>> The command works. I use GO SMS and i check the help section and It is >>>> not the bug I have. In my stock messaging, I can also see the command. >>>> I thought Cerberus does something to hide it, however it doesn't seem >>>> to work on my phone. Can you help me?
Would setting Cerberus's priority higher have any effect?
I can get Handcent to work by doing the following: 1. Disable the stock Text Messaging app in the "Apps" settings. Do a force stop or 2 (until it shows that it's not running). 2. In Handcent, under "Application settings", "Default Messaging Application", set it to "disable". If I'm correct, this de-prioritizes Handcent and allows Cerberus to receive the message. However, since the stock app is now totally disabled, the behavior is the same as if you'd set Handcent as default.
I am now able to lock via SMS command. Now we just have to figure out how to suppress the messages from the alerts....
For now, I blacklisted my work issued cell phone (which sits at home), so if I send the message from there, it will not register to a user, and the lock still works.
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:43:16 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
> If you don't find a way to solve the problem by playing a little with > Handcent notification settings, I'm sorry but the only solution would be to > uninstall Handcent. Unfortunately these apps set the priority for the SMS > receiver too high, so they intercept all messages before they can reach > other applications like Cerberus.
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Rob Alexander <phxri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would setting Cerberus's priority higher have any effect?
> I can get Handcent to work by doing the following:
> 1. Disable the stock Text Messaging app in the "Apps" settings. Do a
> force stop or 2 (until it shows that it's not running).
> 2. In Handcent, under "Application settings", "Default Messaging
> Application", set it to "disable". If I'm correct, this de-prioritizes
> Handcent and allows Cerberus to receive the message. However, since the
> stock app is now totally disabled, the behavior is the same as if you'd set
> Handcent as default.
> I am now able to lock via SMS command. Now we just have to figure out how
> to suppress the messages from the alerts....
> For now, I blacklisted my work issued cell phone (which sits at home), so
> if I send the message from there, it will not register to a user, and the
> lock still works.
> I'm using a Droid RAZR M with ICS, BTW.
> On Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:43:16 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
>> If you don't find a way to solve the problem by playing a little with
>> Handcent notification settings, I'm sorry but the only solution would be to
>> uninstall Handcent. Unfortunately these apps set the priority for the SMS
>> receiver too high, so they intercept all messages before they can reach
>> other applications like Cerberus.
Does Cerberus rely on the stock application to delete the command messages once processed, or does it operate on the message store directly? I'm not an Android developer, but it seems it would solve multiple issues if it operated directly on the SMS message storage and deleted the message after processing a Cerberus command. This must be possible since the 3rd party messaging apps still work with the stock app disabled. Just a suggestion/thought.
Cerberus does not actually delete the message, it stops the message before
it can reach the Messaging app. Other applications like GO SMS and Handcent
also set their "receivers" at the highest priority, so the behavior is
unpredictable.
The only real solution would be for the developers of those app to set the
priority a bit lower, but they apparently don't care.
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Rob Alexander <phxri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does Cerberus rely on the stock application to delete the command messages
> once processed, or does it operate on the message store directly? I'm not
> an Android developer, but it seems it would solve multiple issues if it
> operated directly on the SMS message storage and deleted the message after
> processing a Cerberus command. This must be possible since the 3rd party
> messaging apps still work with the stock app disabled. Just a
> suggestion/thought.
I presented a workaround for Handcent a couple posts up that deals with the priority issue and allows Cerberus to receive the command messages....
Now I'm making a suggestion to have Cerberus attempt to delete them from the device's message store upon execution to better allow use with 3rd party messaging apps, which many of us use.
Also, as a paid subscriber to Handcent services, I'll suggest to them that they set the priority one level below highest to allow security apps such as Cerberus to work properly. Maybe it'll help.
It doesn't technically rely on other SMS apps... But I wonder if there's a way to either A) "steal" top priority from them, or B) is there something can be detected as a "trigger" event that would tell Cerberus there was a new message and then it could scan the message to check if it's a command, then either do nothing or process and delete it....?
Again, my workaround a few posts ago allows Cerberus to receive the message and process it with Handcent running - the only thing not working is intercepting/deleting the message before Handcent can see it too.
If someone could provide a sample hack to intercept a message from a max-priority app, could that possibly be the basis for a feature to make this work seamlessly with Handcent/Go SMS?
So far my only working solution with gosms is to password protect it. In that way the thief will see a notification of a new sms but will not be able to read it. In the meantime, Tasker to do list includes an sms deletion if certain scenarios are met. (Would be easy to intercept and delete sms that contain the word cerberus and delete after some specified seconds)
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 5:20:03 AM UTC+1, Rob Alexander wrote:
> It doesn't technically rely on other SMS apps... But I wonder if there's a way to either A) "steal" top priority from them, or B) is there something can be detected as a "trigger" event that would tell Cerberus there was a new message and then it could scan the message to check if it's a command, then either do nothing or process and delete it....?
> Again, my workaround a few posts ago allows Cerberus to receive the message and process it with Handcent running - the only thing not working is intercepting/deleting the message before Handcent can see it too.
> If someone could provide a sample hack to intercept a message from a max-priority app, could that possibly be the basis for a feature to make this work seamlessly with Handcent/Go SMS?
> -Rob
> On Monday, November 5, 2012 8:15:23 AM UTC-7, SpideR wrote:Serberus should not rely on other sms apps. > It should query the sms database directly and delete the message from there. (After it has been executed)
When changing the default application setting, set it to MMS only instead of "disabled". When it was set to disabled, I wasn't getting MMS messages. This allows Handcent to receive MMSs normally but not block SMS messages from Cerberus.
Good news... Handcent is being cool about this. Below is the correspondence, I'll keep you up on any activity.
*What I sent:* There is a known problem with Handcent (and other 3rd party SMS apps) and apps like Cerberus (a security app). Cerberus can receive SMS messages to execute commands like locking down, tracking, or wiping the device in case it's lost or stolen.... In fact if a thief turns off the data connection, this can be the only way to let Cerberus know to do something...
The problem appears to be that apps like Handcent set themselves to max priority for SMS messages, which means Cerberus is unable to intercept command messages, which contain the Cerberus password, and instead they are shown to the potential thief as standard messages.
I have managed to find a workaround that allows Cerberus to receive messages, but unfortunately they still display in Handcent. This is to turn off the "default app" setting (which I assume lowers the priority) and then I disable the stock app manually, but I think a setting for "using security app" would be helpful, where Handcent would set itself to a slightly lower priority and allow the security app to set a higher one than Handcent. This should allow them to work together seamlessly, right?
Also, as I know I would tend to give requests a higher priority if I know the requester pays for my stuff - I am a Handcent services subscriber, my login is **********. Thanks for your consideration.
*Their reply:* yea,we will try to add an option for your request and send a beta version to you ,. please launch talk (google talk) application ,we just invited you ,after you launch the application,we can text each other. it's easy to test the request.
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Rob Alexander <phxri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good news... Handcent is being cool about this. Below is the
> correspondence, I'll keep you up on any activity.
> *What I sent:*
> There is a known problem with Handcent (and other 3rd party SMS apps) and
> apps like Cerberus (a security app). Cerberus can receive SMS messages to
> execute commands like locking down, tracking, or wiping the device in case
> it's lost or stolen.... In fact if a thief turns off the data connection,
> this can be the only way to let Cerberus know to do something...
> The problem appears to be that apps like Handcent set themselves to max
> priority for SMS messages, which means Cerberus is unable to intercept
> command messages, which contain the Cerberus password, and instead they are
> shown to the potential thief as standard messages.
> I have managed to find a workaround that allows Cerberus to receive
> messages, but unfortunately they still display in Handcent. This is to
> turn off the "default app" setting (which I assume lowers the priority) and
> then I disable the stock app manually, but I think a setting for "using
> security app" would be helpful, where Handcent would set itself to a
> slightly lower priority and allow the security app to set a higher one than
> Handcent. This should allow them to work together seamlessly, right?
> Also, as I know I would tend to give requests a higher priority if I know
> the requester pays for my stuff - I am a Handcent services subscriber, my
> login is **********. Thanks for your consideration.
> *Their reply:*
> yea,we will try to add an option for your request and send a beta version
> to you ,. please launch talk (google talk) application ,we just invited you
> ,after you launch the application,we can text each other. it's easy to test
> the request.
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Rob Alexander <phxri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good news... Handcent is being cool about this. Below is the
>> correspondence, I'll keep you up on any activity.
>> *What I sent:*
>> There is a known problem with Handcent (and other 3rd party SMS apps) and
>> apps like Cerberus (a security app). Cerberus can receive SMS messages to
>> execute commands like locking down, tracking, or wiping the device in case
>> it's lost or stolen.... In fact if a thief turns off the data connection,
>> this can be the only way to let Cerberus know to do something...
>> The problem appears to be that apps like Handcent set themselves to max
>> priority for SMS messages, which means Cerberus is unable to intercept
>> command messages, which contain the Cerberus password, and instead they are
>> shown to the potential thief as standard messages.
>> I have managed to find a workaround that allows Cerberus to receive
>> messages, but unfortunately they still display in Handcent. This is to
>> turn off the "default app" setting (which I assume lowers the priority) and
>> then I disable the stock app manually, but I think a setting for "using
>> security app" would be helpful, where Handcent would set itself to a
>> slightly lower priority and allow the security app to set a higher one than
>> Handcent. This should allow them to work together seamlessly, right?
>> Also, as I know I would tend to give requests a higher priority if I know
>> the requester pays for my stuff - I am a Handcent services subscriber, my
>> login is **********. Thanks for your consideration.
>> *Their reply:*
>> yea,we will try to add an option for your request and send a beta version
>> to you ,. please launch talk (google talk) application ,we just invited you
>> ,after you launch the application,we can text each other. it's easy to test
>> the request.
Last night they said they'd get me a beta to test in 24 hours. So, hopefully this weekend... Not sure how soon the feature would make it into a release.
On Friday, November 9, 2012 3:22:15 PM UTC-7, Rob Alexander wrote:
> Last night they said they'd get me a beta to test in 24 hours. So, > hopefully this weekend... Not sure how soon the feature would make it into > a release.
> On Friday, November 9, 2012 3:22:15 PM UTC-7, Rob Alexander wrote:
>> Last night they said they'd get me a beta to test in 24 hours. So,
>> hopefully this weekend... Not sure how soon the feature would make it into
>> a release.
I just got done beta testing it with them, it works great. You can set it to be the default app normally, with no silly workaround, you just have to check the lower priority box to tell it you're using Cerberus.
Release with the feature included should be out in a week or so. Luca, when the release comes out you guys might want to update your FAQ/docs to reflect this.
Anyone who is looking for a good SMS app that now works seamlessly with Cerberus, I definitely recommend these guys at Handcent!
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Rob Alexander <phxri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got done beta testing it with them, it works great. You can set it
> to be the default app normally, with no silly workaround, you just have to
> check the lower priority box to tell it you're using Cerberus.
> Release with the feature included should be out in a week or so. Luca,
> when the release comes out you guys might want to update your FAQ/docs to
> reflect this.
> Anyone who is looking for a good SMS app that now works seamlessly with
> Cerberus, I definitely recommend these guys at Handcent!
> On Monday, November 12, 2012 8:37:51 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
>> Awesome :-)
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Rob Alexander <phxr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 12, 2012 11:47:25 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
> Thanks a lot Rob. Could you please send me a reminder when the official > version is published on the Play Store, so I can update the FAQ?
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Rob Alexander <phxr...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> I just got done beta testing it with them, it works great. You can set >> it to be the default app normally, with no silly workaround, you just have >> to check the lower priority box to tell it you're using Cerberus.
>> Release with the feature included should be out in a week or so. Luca, >> when the release comes out you guys might want to update your FAQ/docs to >> reflect this.
>> Anyone who is looking for a good SMS app that now works seamlessly with >> Cerberus, I definitely recommend these guys at Handcent!
>> On Monday, November 12, 2012 8:37:51 AM UTC-7, Luca Sagaria wrote:
>>> Awesome :-)
>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Rob Alexander <phxr...@gmail.com>wrote:
