Intentions/estimations for ccTiddly?

[Mat]

Hey ho! I realized that I (as a non programmer) probably haven't quite
understood the intentions for what ccTiddly is to become. On the
Osmosoft webpage it says it is for internal BT use - if this is the
intention, i.e that it will not be for the public, then I would
greatly appreciate to know before I spend more time on it. Now, I
would not think that's the idea, so someone in the know please ramble
on. Also, please just throw out some, obvoiusly non-commiting, time
estimations.

Also, is this a prioritized project by CC and Mr.McManus?

I hope it is clear that the above are just humble questions, not
"demanding" ones. I'm just a little user who dabbled around a bit and
would love to see it fully functional (...whatever that means ;-)


/Mat

[simon mcmanus]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Mat <matia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On the
> Osmosoft webpage it says it is for internal BT use - if this is the
> intention, i.e that it will not be for the public, then I would
> greatly appreciate to know before I spend more time on it.

Hi Mat,

ccTiddly is an Open Source project and it will remain that way. We
(Osmosoft) do provide ccTiddly hosting for internal BT users/projects,
but the source code that runs those services is made available back to
everyone.

Anyone is able to take the work we have done on ccTiddly and recreate
it for their own business and/or personal needs. In fact we encourage
and help people to do that.

We are trying to understand open source, learning as we go. We know
that our contribution back to the community is very important.

> Now, I
> would not think that's the idea, so someone in the know please ramble
> on. Also, please just throw out some, obvoiusly non-commiting, time
> estimations.
>

Here are my three priorities at the moment, its quite technical, but
you did ask.... 8)

ccTiddly Adaptor (1.6.5 - 2-3 weeks away)
I am working to make ccTiddly a good citizen in the TiddlyWiki world.
The next release should allow users to access the syncing
functionality when they have taken a TiddlyWiki file offline.
The ccTiddly Adaptor will also allow us to get TiddlySnip working with ccTiddly.

Improved Debugging Support (1.6.5 - 2-3 weeks away)
This is only really for developers and mainly for me until we
introduce Server Side plugins. Basically if your a developer it
allows you to see whats happening on the server log file from within
the browser.

Server Side Plugins (1.7.? - 3-4 months away)
This will allow for a simplified core by removing openID, RSS , LDAP,
Uploading functionality and moving it into server side plugins. Some
of the code added for BT will also be removed and turned into plugins
released under an open source license.

We hope to make it as simple as possible for developers and system
admin to add functionality into ccTiddly.

I hope to get ccTiddly to the stage where we have a very stable and
simple core with lots of plugins available.

> Also, is this a prioritized project by CC and Mr.McManus?
>

CC has not been coding recently, he's got himself a job doing some
crazy high powered laser stuff.

I spend most of my time working on ccTiddly in between other Osmosoft duties.

> I hope it is clear that the above are just humble questions, not
> "demanding" ones. I'm just a little user who dabbled around a bit and
> would love to see it fully functional (...whatever that means ;-)
>
>
> /Mat

Hope that answers your questions Mat. Let me know if not.

Please let us know how you get on.

Thanks

Simon

>
>
> >
>

--
Simon McManus

blog : http://simonmcmanus.com

[Mat]

Oh, that was very uplifting and positive to hear! (and that bit about
TiddlySnip ;-)
Really thank you for your answer Simon!

> ccTiddly Adaptor (1.6.5 - 2-3 weeks away)

>... users to access the syncing functionality when they have taken a TiddlyWiki file offline.

Is this different from the syncing we see for regular plugins?

> ...Server side plugins ...
Is this part of - or even the whole of - that project about "bags" and
"receipes" etc? BTW what is the official name for that project, as far
as Osmosoft is concerned (or is *that* TiddlyWeb?)

> CC has not been coding recently, he's got himself a job doing some
> crazy high powered laser stuff.

Question: What is someone named Mr.ColdCool supposed to do?
A) HOT lazers
B) COOL server side plugins

There, such sharp and shrewd wit should set him straight again!

/Mat

[simon mcmanus]

Hi Mat,

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Mat <matia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, that was very uplifting and positive to hear! (and that bit about
> TiddlySnip ;-)
> Really thank you for your answer Simon!

no problem.

>
>> ccTiddly Adaptor (1.6.5 - 2-3 weeks away)
>>... users to access the syncing functionality when they have taken a TiddlyWiki file offline.
>
> Is this different from the syncing we see for regular plugins?
>

Almost exactly the same except it gets the data from a ccTiddly server
instead of a TiddlyWiki file.

>> ...Server side plugins ...
> Is this part of - or even the whole of - that project about "bags" and
> "receipes" etc? BTW what is the official name for that project, as far
> as Osmosoft is concerned (or is *that* TiddlyWeb?)

No, TiddlyWeb is the project that your thinking of.

At the moment there are no plans to introduce the bag model into ccTiddly.

Bags will provide a secrity model for TiddlyWeb, ccTiddly's security
model is based around tagging. At some point the client side plugins
will start to merge but the server side functionality will always
remain separate.
>

> There, such sharp and shrewd wit should set him straight again!

Lets hope so!!

Cheers

Simon
>
> /Mat