> Please could you confirm the date of the Belgrade conference you
> mentioned? Unfortunately 20 September would be right in the middle of the
> Degrowth conference, which I think at least 3 of us have already signed up
> and paid for.

> What kinds of activities have been planned as part of the Biketour? A
> critical mass ride in Venezia Mestre could be worth doing. Regarding
> accommodation, I think the Degrowth conference organisers have offered to
> help participants  find cheap places and homestays.

> Cheers,

> Simon.
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Milan Boric <boricmi...@hotmail.com>
> *To:* Carfree Networklist <carfree_network@googlegroups.com>
> *Cc:* Joel Crawford <mail...@carfree.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2012, 15:59
> *Subject:* RE: [carfree_network] like WCN? like Venice? (let's go
> network...)

> ciao,

> Dear Joel, I agree with most of the things you have mentioned. Yes Venice
> is for sure very expensive city.

> I will be participating at EcotopiaBiketour from Torino or Milano towards
> Venice.
> I guess we will be staying close to Venice at Mestre. Actually we are
> looking for a cheap solution as a sleeping place.
> We will be there around 19th or 20th of September. I'm not sure if I will
> stay there for a few more days.

> Here at Belgrade my NGO "Yugo Cycling Campaign" has applied for a funding
> of European Mobility Week Program.
> If we get the approval there will be some small scale one day conference
> "Eco-Mobility" on 20th of September with
> two international guests from EC Directory General for Environment and
> European Cyclists Federation.
> I will inform you, or simply send you invitation when there will be
> certain decision about this conference.

> I was thinking about meeting at Belgrade if not for this occasion but for
> some other opportunity to show you the city
> of Belgrade which has wonderful location at confluence of two big rivers
> Sava and Danube.
> But my hometown has so many problems with traffic congestion and one of
> the worst public transport systems in
> the neighborhood. There has been some initiatives to make it better with
> introduction of new vehicles like new trams,
> trolleys and buses but this is just small contribution to solution of the
> big problem.

> All the best.

> Milan Boric

> Secretary of the presidency

> Yugo Cycling Campaign

> www.bicikl.info

>  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003763566119&sk=info

> > 16 May 2012 mail...@carfree.com, Joel wrote:

> > Responding to Justin's recent post:

> > Hi All,

> > So far there has seemed to be little interest in a network meeting in
> Venice. I'm not sure why, but I have one thought: Venice is expensive. Is
> that holding people back? Should we look for a low-cost alternative,
> perhaps near Venice, so that those attending the Degrowth conference can
> easily attend the WCN meeting?

> > I am very discouraged these days. Nothing seems to be going in the right
> direction, and interest in carfree cities actually appears to be declining
> despite the improvements they offer for so many of the problems from which
> we suffer. I really don't have any idea any more what we should be doing. I
> would like to gather with some carfree supporters soon, somewhere. We need
> to discuss what to do next.

> > Best,

> > Joel

> > >Here is another attempt to insert some life into this list (as well as
> network). This September 19-23 there is going to be a conference in Venice,
> Italy on Degrowth. This is an important movement that has gained traction
> in the past few years (some of you may have read about Francois Schneider
> and his 14 month walk with donkey in France, in one issue of Carbusters).
> you can learn more about the conference at <
> http://www.venezia2012.it/?lang=en>http://www.venezia2012.it/?lang=en.
> (can also register there)

> > >Venice is also the glorious example, par excellence, of a carfree city
> and beautiful carfree spaces, that all of us in the network like to gush
> about. Well, there has been some talk among a few of us, of getting carfree
> people to attend the conference, and using the opportunity to spend a
> little time (ideally after the main conference) of planning for future ways
> that WCN can play a role in shaping sustainable mobility and moving forward
> the carfree concept, in light of the closing of the Prague office closed
> last year.

> > >Take this then as a call to see who is interested and would like to
> attend, or help plan a mini-event and get-together. It will be great to see
> some old carfree activists come together, but it can be equally super if
> some fresh faces show up. Anyone interested, please speak up! (either
> on-list or off-list)

> > >Also in the planning is the ecotopia biketour, which will travel by
> bike from Spain through France to Italy, ending up at the conference. Then
> there is a group who want to walk a stretch to the conference, with a
> donkey entourage, just like Francois all those years ago (Francois btw,
> will also be present, at least at the conf) . I've heard also about a
> regatta with rowboats... So in a word, there is hope to do some action,
> such as a critical mass ride, or something else that we could organize. I
> think it could be great if an action could take place that would
> specifically bring the carfree nature of Venice to light, support and
> promote that aspect of the city.

> > >So, here is the question, what are any of your action ideas for such an
> occasion? I know that if Joel comes, he'll take a video or three. What else
> could we do? perhaps use the occasion as a scene for a statement broadcast
> worldwide? some media action? theatrical or otherwise? in Venice we
> wouldn't so much protest AGAINST something as FOR it...

> > >if anyone wants to discuss this here, would be great, we still have a
> little bit of time... also, if enough momentum develops, we can migrate to
> a smaller discussion forum. As other groups such as biketour are planning
> actions, we could coordinate something together. I have contact with the
> conference organizers and am also looking for more contacts to local
> institutions or groups. would be nice to hear from any italians on the
> list..

> > >looking forward to a response or two!

> > >Justin

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