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Ian Fiddies  
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 More options Jan 25 2009, 5:29 am
From: Ian Fiddies <ianfidd...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:29:19 +0000
Local: Sun, Jan 25 2009 5:29 am
Subject: new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed

Can anybody help me by
suggesting examples of urban highway projects
where the amount of traffic a new road attracts far exceeds the
amount predicted by the planners.

What
I need are examples that show how a new road, in a heavily trafficked
area will not solve congestion problems.  

/Ian

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Pippa Gallop  
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 More options Jan 25 2009, 6:30 am
From: Pippa Gallop <pippa.gal...@bankwatch.org>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:30:02 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 25 2009 6:30 am
Subject: Re: [carfree_network] new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed
Dear Ian,

I would recommend the Council for the Protection of Rural England's

"Beyond Transport Infrastructure: Lessons for the future from recent
road projects (Newbury Bypass evaluation)
An analysis of the ‘Five-Years After’ Post-Opening Project Evaluation
for the A34 Newbury Bypass"

http://www.cpre.org.uk/library/results/roads

All the best,

pippa

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Carlosfelipe Pardo  
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 More options Jan 26 2009, 12:01 pm
From: Carlosfelipe Pardo <carlosfpa...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:01:09 +0000
Local: Mon, Jan 26 2009 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: [carfree_network] new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed
I guess the answer to that one is to say "all projects"... the typical
increase is 100% of previous traffic... We are now developing a document
on Travel Demand Management which will have all this information, and is
in an almost final state. We should be diffusing the publication around
the next month or so. In the meantime, have you tried in VTPI's
encyclopedia?

Best regards,

Carlosfelipe Pardo
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GTZ - Proyecto de Transporte Sostenible (SUTP, SUTP-LAC)
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Chris C Coleman  
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 More options Jan 26 2009, 5:03 pm
From: Chris C Coleman <pohoda.ch...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:03:40 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 26 2009 5:03 pm
Subject: new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed
Hi Ian,

Randy Ghent wrote a great article on that very subject with plenty of
examples in Issue no. 4 entitled " traffic generation and
evaporation". You can find it in the back issues section of
www.carbusters.org .

I hope this helps!

Chris
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Jeroen Verhoeven  
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 More options Jan 26 2009, 6:10 pm
From: Jeroen Verhoeven <jeroen.verhoe...@foeeurope.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:10:50 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 26 2009 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: [carfree_network] new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed
For info

Here is a great video of an action (credits to Bas Ruyters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slbAPqOwCtY&fmt=6

Friends of the Earth, Bral vzw, IEB and Greenpeace did an action at the
Brussels motorshow on 17/01 to protest against the plans of the 3
regional governments in Belgium to expand the road network.
We put up a road construction site in front of the entrance. Fun.
Belgium had until recently the densest road network in Europe, but it
was overtaken by Malta, so now the governments wants to fight back with
a plan to make Belgium THE logistical centre in Europe.

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Simon Field  
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 More options Jan 26 2009, 7:52 pm
From: Simon Field <s.d.fi...@talk21.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:52:37 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Mon, Jan 26 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: [carfree_network] Re: new roads don't solve congestion

Pippa's example is a good one, and I also agree with the comments made by Carlos.
 
A useful general reference is the British Standing Advisory Committee on Trunk Road Assessment (SACTRA) report "Trunk Roads and the Generation of Traffic" (2004). This is credited with triggering the end of the 'predict and provide' road-building policy, and the beginning of 'new realism'. Sorry, I don't have a copy. The lead academic on this issue in the UK is Phil Goodwin: http://www.transport.uwe.ac.uk/staff/phil.asp.
 
If one wishes to probe further into the reasons we continue to build roads despite everything we now know, one needs to understand some of the perverse economic appraisal tools used by conventional transport planners. So-called time savings (which are nothing of the kind, as people simply travel further within the same time budget) are used to justify the provision of new capacity, assuming free-flow traffic conditions. In Britain, motorists' value of time is typically assigned a larger number than that of pedestrians and cyclists. Add in the revenues from fuel taxation, and you have a system that will almost always favour new road construction or widening. I have a paper "The Myth of Travel Time Savings" if you'd like it off-list.
 
I have mentioned all of this on-list, as I think a great WCN project would be to develop http://www.worldcarfree.net/resources/stats.php by pooling our knowledge to develop an expanded online resource dealing with such matters. For every argument offered by the pro-car lobby (that's a lot of websites to check, and many lengthy arguments in the pub!), we need an instantly available and even better counter-argument drawing on the latest statistics and peer-reviewed research. This would need to be distinct from the VTPI encyclopeadia and similar resources, perhaps through the use of humour (Singer cartoons?) and non-technical language.
 
Simon.

--- On Sun, 25/1/09, Pippa Gallop <pippa.gal...@bankwatch.org> wrote:

From: Pippa Gallop <pippa.gal...@bankwatch.org>
Subject: [carfree_network] Re: new roads don't solve congestion, examples needed
To: ianfidd...@hotmail.com
Cc: carfree_network@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 25 January, 2009, 11:30 AM

Dear Ian,

I would recommend the Council for the Protection of Rural England's

"Beyond Transport Infrastructure: Lessons for the future from recent
road projects (Newbury Bypass evaluation)
An analysis of the ‘Five-Years After’ Post-Opening Project Evaluation
for the A34 Newbury Bypass"

http://www.cpre.org.uk/library/results/roads

All the best,

pippa

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Hrvatska/Croatia
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