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shawn wilson  
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From: shawn wilson <ag4ve...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:55:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [CapSecDC] Re: April CapSec
so, are we still at fado next week? other than the chinese place (and
not even that too much), i wasn't impressed enough to want to move?
there wasn't any places i can remember that weren't crowded as hell or
noisy as hell (one place was but idk that it was as close to a metro
or convenient as fado).

but, hell, i enjoyed the bar hop so much, another exploratory meet
would be cool (keep taking suggestions and exploring a week before
capsec each month?) - i'm sorta joking as far as this thread goes but
sorta serious - it was fun and i'll do it again.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 17:21, Michael Smith <rybo...@ryzhe.ath.cx> wrote:
> Nope. I'll be in Switzerland you insensitive clod! In fact, I'm boarded on
> the plane RFN. =)

> --
> Michael Smith, CISSP-ISSEP
> rybo...@ryzhe.ath.cx @rybolov
> http://www.guerilla-ciso.com/

> Sent from my Internet-enabled toaster. Pardon the crumbs.

> Grecs <gr...@novainfosecportal.com> wrote:

>> Are you going to be here this Wed? Swing by the NovaInfosec Meetup then...

>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Michael Smith <rybo...@ryzhe.ath.cx> wrote:

>> If you wankers would schedule the 3rd Wednesday of the month for some time
>> when I'm home, I would show up. =)

>> --
>> Michael Smith, CISSP-ISSEP
>> rybo...@ryzhe.ath.cx @rybolov
>> http://www.guerilla-ciso.com/

>> Sent from my Internet-enabled toaster. Pardon the crumbs.

>> Mark Shrout <meshr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Yeah, the hardcore crew can migrate more at the end of the regularly
>>> scheduled events.

>>> Now I'm craving those giant mozzarella sticks from DC9...<sarcasm>Thanks
>>> Doug</sarcasm> LOL!

>>> I hope to see a good size crew out there!

>>> -Mark

>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Douglas Wilson <dallend...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>> Well, this list could be added to. I just figured I'd put out what we
>>>> have, as it could eventually get silly, too -- only so much one can do on a
>>>> school night.

>>>> Though thinking of some of the CapSecs that migrated down to DC9 back in
>>>> the day . . . (Jack, if you don't at least put in an appearance, I will be
>>>> sad. And someone make Fish & Mike Smith drive in from the burbs!)

>>>> Doug

>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Mark Shrout <meshr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Given that the only place I've been to on this list is RFD this should
>>>>> be a fun night.

>>>>> And since we're ending in Dupont, even if no one joins me I'll probably
>>>>> stumble over to Japone for one last drink.

>>>>> -Mark

>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Derek Rogillio <de...@rogillio.net>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Like I said, this Wednesday may be a challenge for me, but I'm open to
>>>>>> new places.  I live directly above a red line stop.  I guess I just need to
>>>>>> work harder on that diet :)

>>>>>> -Derek

>>>>>> Michael Smith wrote:

>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>> Park and ride
>>>>>>> Take metro
>>>>>>> ????
>>>>>>> Profit!

>>>>>>> Point being, metro is driver-friendly, you just have to be a smarter
>>>>>>> friend. =)
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Michael Smith, CISSP-ISSEP
>>>>>>> rybo...@ryzhe.ath.cx @rybolov
>>>>>>> http://www.guerilla-ciso.com/

>>>>>>> Sent from my Internet-enabled toaster. Pardon the crumbs.

>>>>>>> Douglas Wilson <dallend...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>    Well, that's the crux of the matter -- we want to keep it

>>>>>>>    1. Walking distance from a metro (people have different
>>>>>>> definitions
>>>>>>>    of walking distance)
>>>>>>>    2. Accessible to all who want to come (i.e. no dress code, no
>>>>>>>    specific requirements, no high price tag)
>>>>>>>    3. Accessible to as many different locations around DC as possible
>>>>>>>    (i.e. centrally located for metro).

>>>>>>>    The one set of people who do get screwed are those who drive --
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>    that's going to happen almost anywhere in a city during rush hour.
>>>>>>>    Only way to solve that would be to go way out in the burbs, and
>>>>>>>    that's not what we do.

>>>>>>>    Stand by for upcoming post on this.

>>>>>>>    On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Barbara H <mcelli...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:mcelli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>>>>>        Doug --
>>>>>>>        I use Metro to get to CapSec.  Unless you decide to go off the
>>>>>>> grid
>>>>>>>        and meet in Old Town Alexandria -- then I will drive(i.e. I
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>        from
>>>>>>>        VA).  Thus, I am voting for anything Metro-friendly.  I have
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>        observed how busy Fado's is to begin with in the evenings.
>>>>>>>  Most of
>>>>>>>        the time we "outlast" the other civilians, though.  Meanwhile,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>        will
>>>>>>>        follow you guys like a lemming as long as the venue is Metro-
>>>>>>>        friendly.  A bonus is good food.  I personally thought Fados
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>        pretty good for pub fare, but the Hamilton and Helix ideas
>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>        interesting as well.  /end sound off

>>>>>>>        Barb

>>>>>>>        On Apr 11, 3:08 pm, Douglas Wilson <dallend...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>        <mailto:dallend...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>         > Someone at the last CapSec also mentioned Helix (or I think
>>>>>>>        it was Helix).
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > I think the thing to do is do a poll on what method people
>>>>>>>        are using to get
>>>>>>>         > to CapSec. The problem with Dupont and other Red Line
>>>>>>>        locations is that it
>>>>>>>         > screws the people coming in from VA. However, if no one is
>>>>>>>        really using
>>>>>>>         > Blue or Orange, it opens up Dupont as a possibility.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > I'll try to throw out some sort of poll soon, or people
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>        just sound
>>>>>>>         > off here.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > Doug
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Jack Whitsitt
>>>>>>>        <sintix...@gmail.com <mailto:sintix...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>         > > I don't imagine Helix runs out of space early in the hour
>>>>>>>        of happy on
>>>>>>>         > > a weekday, and I've enjoyed my times there...and during
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>        summer I
>>>>>>>         > > think they have an open area out back. Walkable from
>>>>>>> Dupont
>>>>>>>        circle?
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > On 4/11/12, David Sachdev <dsach...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>        <mailto:dsach...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>         > > > I keep hearing that upstairs at The Hamilton there is
>>>>>>>        always room during
>>>>>>>         > > > Happy Hour.  That being said, I haven't been there yet,
>>>>>>>        but have heard
>>>>>>>         > > good
>>>>>>>         > > > things:
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >http://www.thehamiltondc.com/restaurant
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Derek Rogillio
>>>>>>>        <de...@rogillio.net <mailto:de...@rogillio.net>>

>>>>>>>         > > wrote:
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >> Doug,
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >> For those of us coming in on the red line, something
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>        the Chinatown
>>>>>>>         > > area
>>>>>>>         > > >> is definitely more convenient than going up to U
>>>>>>> Street.
>>>>>>>          I also prefer
>>>>>>>         > > >> Fado over RFD for the same reasons.  With that said,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>        doesn't really
>>>>>>>         > > >> matter that much to me.  If there is somewhere that we
>>>>>>>        can go that is
>>>>>>>         > > less
>>>>>>>         > > >> crowded then I don't mind the extra time to get there.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >> -Derek
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >> Doug Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> Hey folks! The next CapSec is scheduled for April
>>>>>>> 25th.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> Throwing this out there early to see if we want to
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>        on with Fado,
>>>>>>>         > > or
>>>>>>>         > > >>> if we want to try another venue.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> The reason we are at Fado is that post being on U
>>>>>>>        Street, lots of folk
>>>>>>>         > > >>> were bitching that it wasn't more centrally located.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> Now that we are centrally located, it's REALLY
>>>>>>> FREAKING
>>>>>>>        CROWDED around
>>>>>>>         > > >>> traditional "happy hour" time -- 5-7 PM -- go figure!
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> Most times when we are at Fado, it does clear out
>>>>>>>        around 7:30-8 or so.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> I think we are going to have this problem pretty much
>>>>>>>        anywhere which is
>>>>>>>         > > >>> right next to chinatown, honestly. RFD has been
>>>>>>>        suggested as an
>>>>>>>         > > >>> alternate -- they are bigger, and usually have some
>>>>>>>        space -- but in my
>>>>>>>         > > >>> personal opinion, the food isn't as good and they
>>>>>>> staff
>>>>>>>        are often dicks
>>>>>>>         > > >>> there, whereas Fado they are much cooler. And, in
>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>        Brickskellar
>>>>>>>         > > >>> tradition, they are always out of something . . .
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> I'll leave this thread open for a week or so for
>>>>>>>        debate, then I'll make
>>>>>>>         > > >>> a call. If no one speaks up, we're at Fado again.
>>>>>>>         >
>>>>>>>         > > >>> Doug
>>>>>>>         >
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