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> Also, for the record you should be off 1.8.6 (not causing this problem)
> but it is more then 2/3 years old, and completely obsolete now��
Lee,
That is an unrealistic suggestion.
The latest release of RHEL (+ derivatives) has ruby 1.8.6, so many
people will be stuck with that version.
R.
On 04/06/10 11:02, Lee Hambley wrote:
> Also, for the record you should be off 1.8.6 (not causing this problem)
> but it is more then 2/3 years old, and completely obsolete now……
Lee,
That is an unrealistic suggestion.
The latest release of RHEL (+ derivatives) has ruby 1.8.6, so many
people will be stuck with that version.
R.
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Lee,
I don't disagree with any of your reasons for preferring later versions
of software - "HAMBLEY & BOWES IN AGREEMENT SHOCKER!!".
However the fact remains that, for whatever reasons, commonly-used
popular enterprise linux distributions still have ruby 1.8.6, with no
easy route to deploy a later version. Hell, the recently-released Fedora
13 still only has 1.8.6, and I seem to recall that RHEL6 beta also does.
So, there is no easy way (that I know of) to get ruby 1.8.7 (or above)
on RH-flavour platforms.
Now, you may find that unreasonable but the fact remains that 1.8.6 is
what a lot of folk have to work with - a situation that is not likely to
change for quite some time.
R.
On 04/06/10 11:39, Lee Hambley wrote:
> Out dated distributions aside… there is a catalog of serious problems in
> 1.8.6 from string handling, through thread scheduling, race conditions
> on trivial file system operations and more - it is effectively obsolete;
> and given it's age, and the catalog of problems I certainly won't go out
> of my way to support it here. In this instance the problem isn't related
> - but I've closed more than one ticket as there's been no evidence that
> they present on modern (even old) versions of Ruby. We're 3 months away
> from Matz starting work on Ruby 2.0 ( I spoke with him just last week )
> – with him being most disappointed that people have failed completely to
> move towards 1.9… as it's something I believe very strongly in not using
> old software. (And, need I remind you of the last time Debian, for
> example http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 - They revised their update
> policy in that are rather quickly following that discovery.
>
> Ruby 1.8.7 has been available for about 2 years and one week, take a
> look at the announcement
> here… http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2008/05/31/ruby-1-8-7-has-been-released/
> - two years and nobody updated a package for some operating systems yet…
> that is simply unreasonable.
>
> And Robin, I know we don't often agree - I'm not looking for a fight -
> and in fact I work in a rails shop where for a variety of reasons we
> still use 1.8.7 - with a great many back-ported and custom patches for
> one thing and another - with this in mind I feel that I am qualified to
> speak about managing software versions in an environment where such
> things are critical
Lee,
I don't disagree with any of your reasons for preferring later versions
of software - "HAMBLEY & BOWES IN AGREEMENT SHOCKER!!".
However the fact remains that, for whatever reasons, commonly-used
popular enterprise linux distributions still have ruby 1.8.6, with no
easy route to deploy a later version. Hell, the recently-released Fedora
13 still only has 1.8.6, and I seem to recall that RHEL6 beta also does.
So, there is no easy way (that I know of) to get ruby 1.8.7 (or above)
on RH-flavour platforms.
Now, you may find that unreasonable but the fact remains that 1.8.6 is
what a lot of folk have to work with - a situation that is not likely to
change for quite some time.
R.