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Sunah Cherwin

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Sep 26, 2004, 2:18:49 PM9/26/04
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>Hello, folks. My name is Ping and i'm a Berkeley graduate student.
>Google will be happy to tell you many more things about me, though
>unfortunately my website is down at the moment.
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>I support the concept of the Candor Club. I think it is long overdue
>and was heartened to hear of it. Thank you for propagating and
>supporting this idea.
>
>Since Google Groups appears to provide no information about the 20
>other members of this group, i thought i would post a brief
>introduction and see if anyone else would like to introduce themselves
>also.

My name is Sunah. I live in Berkeley. I'm a book editor, and my big
project now is moving to the mountains. I am very candid, and I'm
often baffled when other people are not.

I was interested in ?ing's point that the central site for the Candor
Club, which is about identifying fellow candid-ates, has no
information about members. What is that about?
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Greg Slovacek

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Sep 28, 2004, 8:01:25 PM9/28/04
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Welcome, Ping and Sunah!

I'm curious about your question - what kind of information would you
like to see about the members?

I can tell you a bit about myself. My name is Greg Slovacek and
together with my friend Malcolm Handley I co-founded this
organization. I'm a software engineer at Google, and I live in San
Francisco.

I can also tell you why we don't make information about our members
publicly available. The reason is that a number of members may have
privacy concerns, and we don't want to turn people away because of
their perceived risk that their email address or other personally
identifying information will be put out on the internet. We respect
that and try to keep the candorclub website focused on the core
organizational interests - namely, describing the organization,
publicizing it, and managing its membership.

However, there is a clear social directive here, which we do not wish
to ignore. We want to encourage a community to be built around the
concept of candor club. Membership in such a community would be
completely voluntary. An example of the way this can be done is the
orkut community:

http://orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=488389

Thank you for bringing up the issue - we will try to put some of this
information in the FAQ so it's more obvious to new members. Welcome to
candor club!

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malcolm handley

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Sep 29, 2004, 12:47:14 AM9/29/04
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There is not a lot for me to add to Greg's message. I am also a
programmer at Google and I also live in San Francisco.

Ka-Ping and Sunah, how did you find out about us? Was it our
advertising on Google? Have you talked to any of your friends about the
group? We find that that enthusiastic personal advocacy is the best way
of promoting candor club.

Ka-Ping Yee

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Sep 29, 2004, 2:28:42 PM9/29/04
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, malcolm handley wrote:
> Ka-Ping and Sunah, how did you find out about us? Was it our
> advertising on Google? Have you talked to any of your friends about the
> group? We find that that enthusiastic personal advocacy is the best way
> of promoting candor club.

I saw a mention of the Candor Club on a friend's LiveJournal.
I proceeded to mention it on my own: http://wolog.net/. However,
as you'll see if you visit my journal, most of the reactions were
negative. It's probably worth looking at the comments to see
how people reacted and whether there were avoidable misconceptions.

I see Candor Club as an interesting social experiment. I can't
know whether it works until i try it. When do you and others find
occasion to activate the conventions?


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