candorclub Google Group

Re: Candor Question

lilly.ir...@gmail.com (lilly) — Fri, 27 May 2005 03:10:07 UT

"Interesting idea -- we actually explored that and there are a bunch of
issues..." also makes you look like you're smart and have actually
thought this thing through. If someone can come up with great, new
ideas within 2 seconds of your pitch, then you might not have thought
your area through enough. :)

Re: Candor Question

ken.d...@gmail.com (Ken Duda) — Fri, 20 May 2005 14:33:52 UT

I think your suggestion is headed in the right direction --- maybe a
less weaslly version is, "Interesting idea --- we actually explored
that and there are a bunch of issues we bumped into, but I like the way
you're thinking about this, and ... [go back to the main topic here]"
--- positive and honest at the same time. Or is it weaslly? I'd like

Re: [candor] Candor Question

jwa...@gmail.com (Jon Watte) — Fri, 20 May 2005 01:49:08 UT

The key word is "as possible". If it's a negotiation trying to woo a
business partner, then the analysis is:
- how damaging would it be to tell them "we thought about that, but it
has some draw-backs"?
- how damaging would it be to myself to know I'm not candid?
- how important is this business partner opportunity to us?

Candor Question

ken.d...@gmail.com (Ken Duda) — Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:17:54 UT

Hi folks,
I have a question regarding dealing with others with candor.
Suppose I'm in a technical meeting with a potential partner (such as an
investor, customer, or candidate employee). Suppose I am describing a
new product idea. My potential partner reacts by saying, "oh that's
cool, and wouldn't it be great if the product also did X."

Re: Greetings and publicity

lib...@gmail.com (libber@gmail.com) — Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:37:58 UT

Make that three :)
Please let me know when you do the flyers, I will put them up here at
the same time around here. Even finding a few people who would be
interested in this would be rewarding.

Greetings and publicity

aaro...@gmail.com (AaronSw) — Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:56:31 UT

Hi, I'm Aaron Swartz, a writer, programmer, and student at Stanford. I
think it's humorous to note that of the three people here who have
introduced themselves, I know two (Ka-Ping and Sunah). This is further
evidence for my theory that Candor Club appeals to sort of geeky,
thoughtful people who are willing to go outside social norms. (see,

Hiya

lib...@gmail.com (libber@gmail.com) — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:29:35 UT

My name is Collin Greene, I am from Seattle and finding this club is
refreshing. I also like to speak with candor, it is the most efficient
way I have found to communicate and live life. My goal is to learn as
much as I can about the world, to that end I have found that clear
language, examples, honest criticism and definitive facts are what

Re: [candor] Re: ?ing's message

goo...@zesty.ca (Ka-Ping Yee) — Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:28:42 UT

I saw a mention of the Candor Club on a friend's LiveJournal.
I proceeded to mention it on my own: [link]. However,
as you'll see if you visit my journal, most of the reactions were
negative. It's probably worth looking at the comments to see
how people reacted and whether there were avoidable misconceptions.

Re: [candor] Re: ?ing's message

m...@redheron.com (malcolm handley) — Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:47:14 UT

There is not a lot for me to add to Greg's message. I am also a
programmer at Google and I also live in San Francisco.

Ka-Ping and Sunah, how did you find out about us? Was it our
advertising on Google? Have you talked to any of your friends about the
group? We find that that enthusiastic personal advocacy is the best way

Re: [candor] Re: ?ing's message

slo...@gmail.com (Greg Slovacek) — Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:01:25 UT

Welcome, Ping and Sunah!

I'm curious about your question - what kind of information would you
like to see about the members?

I can tell you a bit about myself. My name is Greg Slovacek and
together with my friend Malcolm Handley I co-founded this
organization. I'm a software engineer at Google, and I live in San

Re: ?ing's message

slipp...@pobox.com (Sunah Cherwin) — Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:18:49 UT

My name is Sunah. I live in Berkeley. I'm a book editor, and my big
project now is moving to the mountains. I am very candid, and I'm
often baffled when other people are not.

I was interested in ?ing's point that the central site for the Candor
Club, which is about identifying fellow candid-ates, has no

Greetings.

goo...@zesty.ca (Ka-Ping Yee) — Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:10:07 UT

Hello, folks. My name is Ping and i'm a Berkeley graduate student.
Google will be happy to tell you many more things about me, though
unfortunately my website is down at the moment.
I support the concept of the Candor Club. I think it is long overdue
and was heartened to hear of it. Thank you for propagating and

candor club is growing up

can...@candorclub.org (greg and malcolm) — Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:59:21 UT

Dear candor club members -

candor club is one month old!

We want to give a warm, honest welcome to you new members and say hello
to those of you who haven't heard from us in a while. While we've made
significant progress since the organization's inception, we still have
a long way to go to reach our goal of widespread social improvement.