"gordo" <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:56:15 GMT, "socialist that fear the truth but
> want to give up all their rights"
> <.....Obama........the..saviour....@whitehouse,New.World.Order.UN.Global>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"gordo" <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
> >news:d96mg5h1rv98h4mf5...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:43:34 GMT, "socialist that fear the truth but
> >> want to give up all their rights"
> >>
<.....Obama........the..saviour....@whitehouse,New.World.Order.UN.Global>
> >> Global warming is real.We have a few nutcases trying to sabatoge the
> >> meeting in Copenhagen.In 20 years we have seen the spread of mountain
> >> pine beetle from the US border through BC to Alaska.Yellow bellied
> >> marmots have spread into Alberta from Montana and now can be found
> >> north of Calgary.Humbolt squid are now appearing in BC waters while
> >> they used to be found only as far north as Mexico.The evidence is
> >> right here in our own backyard.
> >>
> >> Dr Ball is not who he says he is
> >>
http://www.desmogblog.com/dr-tim-ball-the-lie-that-just-wont-die> >>
> >> But Ball can't even tell the truth about his own resume. His claim to
> >> be the first Climatology Ph.D. in Canada is a total falsehood; his
> >> degree was in historical geography - not climatology - and it was
> >> nowhere near the first ever granted to someone writing vaguely in the
> >> field. It also was granted by the university as a doctor of
> >> philosophy, not the more prestigious "doctor of science" that Ball
> >> claims in these articles.
> >>
> >> Dr. Ball claims never to have been paid by oil and gas interests, but
> >> if you look here , you'll find a Globe and Mail story in which Dr.
> >> Barry Cooper, the man behind Ball's former industry front group, the
> >> Friends of Science , offers this clumsy admission: "[The money's] not
> >> exclusively from the oil and gas industry," says Prof. Cooper. "It's
> >> also from foundations and individuals. I can't tell you the names of
> >> those companies, or the foundations for that matter, or the
> >> individuals."
> >
> >Look if you hate this guy that fine, but the fact is "Global Warming" is,
> >and always was, a policy for genocidal reduction of the world's
population.
> >It's a fraud and people are being brainwashed on it, so gordo either put
up
> >or shut up about government propaganda being used on people like you, to
buy
> >all this global warming.
>
> I don't hate Dr. Ball.I just find it strange that he is a doctor of
> science when he is a doctor of philosophy and a shill at that.
>
>
> >
> >It has been proven that sciensts are making money off this stuff just as
Al
> >Gore the whore is.
> >Call For Independent Inquiry Into Climategate as Global Warming Fraud
> >Implodes
> >
> >Hacked emails discussed manipulating data to "hide the decline" in global
> >temperatures.
> >
> >Calls for an independent inquiry into what is being dubbed "Climategate"
are
> >growing as the foundation for man-made global warming implodes following
the
> >release of emails which prove researchers colluded to manipulate data in
> >order to "hide the decline" in global temperatures.
> >
> >Former British chancellor Lord Lawson was the latest to demand an
impartial
> >investigation be launched into the scandal, which arrives just weeks
before
> >the UN climate conference in Copenhagen. "They should set up a public
> >inquiry under someone who is totally respected and get to the truth," he
> >told the BBC Radio Four Today programme.
> >
> So why would you trust Lord Lawson?Do you trust the coal industry
> which he supported while in office to admit that they are contributing
> to global warming?I personally trust scientists far more than I do
> politicians.
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/globalwarming/6634282/Lord-Lawson-calls-for-public-inquiry-into-UEA-global-warming-data-manipulation.html
> >
> >The emails were leaked at the end of last week after hackers penetrated
the
> >servers of the Climatic Research Unit, which is based at the University
of
> >East Anglia, in eastern England. The CRU is described as one of the
leading
> >climate research bodies in the world.
> >
> >The hacked documents and communications reveal how top scientists
conspired
> >to falsify data in the face of declining global temperatures in order to
> >prop up the premise that man-made factors are driving climate change.
Others
> >illustrate how they embarked on a venomous and coordinated campaign to
> >ostracize climate skeptics and use their influence to keep dissenting
> >reports from appearing in peer-reviewed journals, as well as using
cronyism
>
> How do we know that any of the so called documents were not phony
> doctored or of any significance to science??? Your say so?
>
>
> >to avoid compliance with Freedom of Information Act requests.
> >
> >As expected, the establishment media has gone into whitewash overdrive,
> >characterizing the emails as evidence of "rancor" amongst the climate
> >community and focusing on some of the lesser emails while ignoring the
true
> >significance of what has been revealed.
> >
> >Organizations with close ties to the CRU have engaged in psychological
> >terrorism by fearmongering about the planet with doomsday scenarios,
> >illustrating their argument with outlandish propaganda animation videos
> >which show pets drowning and others that show computer-generated polar
bears
> >crashing to earth in a throwback to 9/11 victims jumping from the towers,
> >when in reality polar bear population figures are thriving.
> >
> Katrina was real the thousand year flood in England was real and a
> robin in the Arctic was real.The battle over the Article is real.
>
>
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDn5Xq-hVEo> >
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxis7Y1ikIQ> >
> >
http://telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/09/wpolar09.xml> >
> >"One of the emails under scrutiny, written by Phil Jones, the centre's
> >director, in 1999, reads: "I've just completed Mike's Nature [the science
> >journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20
> >years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the
> > decline," reports the London Telegraph.
> >
> >The author admitted to the Associated Press that the e mail was genuine.
> >
>
>
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ikaqlFpp9jCRHWN0zNuamKXfyeMgD9C441LG0
> >
> >In another example, researchers discuss data that is "artificially
adjusted
> >to look closer to the real temperatures". Apparently, the "real
> > temperatures" are whatever global warming cheerleaders want them to be.
> >
> >As Anthony Watts writes, attempts to claim e mails are "out of context,"
as
> >the defense has been from CRU, cannot apply in this instance.
> >
>
>
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/
> >
> > You can claim an email you wrote years ago isn't accurate saying it was
> >"taken out of context", but a programmer making notes in the code does so
> >that he/she can document what the code is actually doing at that stage,
so
> >that anyone who looks at it later can figure out why this function
doesn't
> >plot past 1960. In this case, it is not allowing all of the temperature
data
> >to be plotted. Growing season data (summer months when the new tree rings
> >are formed) past 1960 is thrown out because "these will be artificially
> >adjusted to look closer to the real temperatures", which implies some
post
> >processing routine.
> >
> > Spin that, spin it to the moon if you want. I'll believe programmer
notes
> >over the word of somebody who stands to gain from suggesting there's
nothing
> >"untowards" about it.
> >
> > Either the data tells the story of nature or it does not. Data that has
> >been "artificially adjusted to look closer to the real temperatures" is
> >false data, yielding a false result.
> >
> >Another email discusses changing temperature data to fix "blips" in
studies
> >so as to make them conform with expectations, which of course is the
> >cardinal sin of scientific research.
> >
> >"Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal
> >destruction of embarrassing information, organized resistance to
disclosure,
> >manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims
and
> >much more" was revealed in the 61 megabites of confidential files
released
> >on the Internet for anyone to read, writes Andrew Bolt.
> >
> >Another email appears to celebrate the death of climate change skeptic
John
> >L Daly, with the words, "In an odd way this is cheering news."
> >
> >In another communication, the author expresses his fantasy to "beat the
crap
> >out of" climate change skeptics.
> >
> >In another exchange, researchers appear to discuss ways to discredit
James
> >Saiers of the Geophysical Research Letters journal, by means of an
academic
> >witch hunt, because of his sympathies with climate change skeptics.
> >
> > "If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if
we
> >can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU
> >channels to get him ousted."
> >
> >Other emails express doubt about whether the world is really heating up
and
> >infer that data needs to be reinterpreted.
> >
> > "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the
moment
> >and it is a travesty that we can't. The CERES data published in the
August
> >BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but
the
> >data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."
> >
> >Scientists discuss trying to disguise historical data that contradicts
the
> >man-made climate change thesis, such as the Medieval Warm Period (MWP),
> >which must be 'contained' according to one email.
> >
> >Suppression of evidence is also discussed, with scientists resolving to
> >delete embarrassing emails.
> >
> >"And, perhaps most reprehensibly," writes James Delingpole, a long series
of
> >communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out
of
> >the peer review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific
climate
> >in which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank,
whose
> >views do not have a scrap of authority."
> >
>
>
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
> >
>
>
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/
> >
> > "This was the danger of always criticising the skeptics for not
publishing
> >in the "peer-reviewed literature". Obviously, they found a solution to
> >that-take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I think we have to
> >stop considering "Climate Research" as a legitimate peer-reviewed
journal.
> >Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research
community
> >to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal. We would also
need
> >to consider what we tell or request of our more reasonable colleagues who
> >currently sit on the editorial board.What do others think?"
> >
> > "I will be emailing the journal to tell them I'm having nothing more to
do
> >with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor.""It results
> >from this journal having a number of editors. The responsible one for
this
> >is a well-known skeptic in NZ. He has let a few papers through by
Michaels
> >and Gray in the past. I've had words with Hans von Storch about this, but
> >got nowhere. Another thing to discuss in Nice!"
> >
> >Scientists also "discussed ways of dodging Freedom of Information Act
> >requests to release temperature data," reports the Daily Mail.
> >
>
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230122/How-climate-change-scientists-dodged-sceptics.html
> >
> >The emails show that scientists relied on cronyism and cosying up to FOIA
> >officials to prevent them from being forced to release data.
> >
> > "When the FOI requests began here, the FOI person said we had to abide
by
> >the requests,' the email says. "It took a couple of half-hour sessions to
> >convince them otherwise."
> >
> > "Once they became aware of the types of people we were dealing with,
> >everyone at UEA became very supportive. I've got to know the FOI person
> >quite well and the chief librarian - who deals with appeals."
> >
> >It is important to stress that this compendium merely scratches the
surface
> >of the monumental levels of fraud that have been exposed as a result of
the
> >hacked emails.
> >
> >People will look back on this moment as the beginning of the end for
global
> >warming alarmism and the agenda to implement draconian measures of
> >regulation and control along with the levy of a global carbon tax.
> >
> >Many more revelations will be forthcoming as a result of this leak, and
the
> >desperate effort on behalf of the establishment to whitewash the whole
issue
> >will only end up making the damage
> >
> \
> Are you really a coal shill ??
gordo, I know you seem to think global warming will save your sorry ass, but
you really need to wake up and get the donut from your ears
>