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The Right One

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Dec 8, 2007, 3:44:27 PM12/8/07
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The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
- Nicol DuMoulin

November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea and
I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention to
her. I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon on
this one.

Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
selling their body is a legitimate profession? Do you want your government
to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?

What age should a girl be before she would be allowed to sell her body in a
brothel? To this question, one hapless blogger said it should be whatever
the age of consent is.

Yes, we should want to live in a society where a 14 year old child is
allowed to sell her pubescent body to a businessman cheating on his wife on
weekends for burger money. (all sarcasm) My God. Have people gone insane?


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"The Right One" AkA ...."The Reich One" <hatedby...@bc.can> wrote in
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> The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
> - Nicol DuMoulin
>
> November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea
and
> I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention
to
> her. I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
> ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon
on
> this one.
>
> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
> selling their body is a legitimate profession? Do you want your government
> to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?
>
> What age should a girl be before she would be allowed to sell her body in
a
> brothel? To this question, one hapless blogger said it should be whatever
> the age of consent is.
>
> Yes, we should want to live in a society where a 14 year old child is
> allowed to sell her pubescent body to a businessman cheating on his wife
on
> weekends for burger money. (all sarcasm) My God. Have people gone insane?
>
> http://www.therightpoint.ca/wr1126-2007

But Terry, according to your...."The Reich One" the new Harper Fascist
government of Canada will issue a "Motherhood Medal," awarded to 'racially
pure' women, who give birth to more than three children.

After all Terry, don'y you kinda think of yourself as a uterus with a head,
and that you are going to form the new master race, speaking for everyone!

Sad but it is obvious that the only way Terry's going to get laid, is if
some woman is being forced to have babies for the Terryland,
Err...Fatherland. Maybe that is what Pearson had in mind, "pity fucks" for
the reichwing.......But....Can you imagine breeding more fat, sweaty,
profligate Repugnant scum like Pearson in this country? Why bring more
suffering into this world?

> --
> Terry Pearson
> Pro- Anti-Semite and proud of it

Duncan Patton

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Dec 8, 2007, 9:03:49 PM12/8/07
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:44:27 GMT
"The Right One" <hatedby...@bc.can> wrote:

> The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
> - Nicol DuMoulin
>
> November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea and
> I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention to
> her. I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
> ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon on
> this one.
>
> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
> selling their body is a legitimate profession? Do you want your government
> to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?
>

More crap. You rightards want to make sex illegal so you can visit
your agenda of religious control on the rest of us.

>
>
> What age should a girl be before she would be allowed to sell her body in a
> brothel? To this question, one hapless blogger said it should be whatever
> the age of consent is.
>
> Yes, we should want to live in a society where a 14 year old child is
> allowed to sell her pubescent body to a businessman cheating on his wife on
> weekends for burger money. (all sarcasm) My God. Have people gone insane?
>

Tell me WHY a 14 year old would need to do this??? Poverty???

Fix that, Tiwi, and FO with your stupid agenda.

Dhu

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"The Right One" <hatedby...@bc.can> wrote in message
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> The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
> - Nicol DuMoulin
>
> November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea
and
> I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention
to
> her. I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
> ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon
on
> this one.
>
> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
> selling their body is a legitimate profession?

The message you send them is that government has no business in trying to
legislate morality, and that the government that governs least governs
best - assuming you want them to adopt conservative political values that
is.

>Do you want your government
> to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?

I don't think they should be earning it from the sale of tobbaco or alcohol
either... That, however, is a choice made by government.

Greg Carr

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Dec 9, 2007, 12:27:43 AM12/9/07
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:19:13 GMT, "798989885444.697...7989796."
<798989885444.697...7989796.@gov.terrorism.NWO.> wrote:

>
>"The Right One" AkA ...."The Reich One" <hatedby...@bc.can> wrote in
>message news:LmD6j.9115$iU.8224@pd7urf2no...
>
>> The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
>> - Nicol DuMoulin
>>
>> November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea
>and
>> I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention
>to
>> her.

Make sure you contact him and your local MP and let them know you are
against this. Don't assume he will do the right thing. He hasn't
closed the Injection Site and he hasn't told the BC govt that meth
injection sites will never be allowed.

>I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
>> ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon
>on
>> this one.
>>
>> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
>> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
>> selling their body is a legitimate profession? Do you want your government
>> to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?

No nor do I want the govt to earn and expect revenue from male
prostitutes. If it is legal then the govt can order ppl to take such
employment instead of EI or welfare.


>>
>> What age should a girl be before she would be allowed to sell her body in
>a
>> brothel? To this question, one hapless blogger said it should be whatever
>> the age of consent is.

Brothels should illegal.


>>
>> Yes, we should want to live in a society where a 14 year old child is
>> allowed to sell her pubescent body to a businessman cheating on his wife
>on
>> weekends for burger money. (all sarcasm) My God. Have people gone insane?
>>
>> http://www.therightpoint.ca/wr1126-2007
>

This has already happened in Germany.

'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'
By Clare Chapman
Last Updated: 12:23am GMT 30/01/2005

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual
services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her
unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and
brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were
granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had
said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in
a cafe.

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She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer
was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only
on doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal
reasons, realise that she was calling a brothel.

Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out
of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job –
including in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit. Last
month German unemployment rose for the 11th consecutive month to 4.5
million, taking the number out of work to its highest since
reunification in 1990.

The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral
grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish
them from bars. As a result, job centres must treat employers looking
for a prostitute in the same way as those looking for a dental nurse.

When the waitress looked into suing the job centre, she found out that
it had not broken the law. Job centres that refuse to penalise people
who turn down a job by cutting their benefits face legal action from
the potential employer.

"There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into
the sex industry," said Merchthild Garweg, a lawyer from Hamburg who
specialises in such cases. "The new regulations say that working in
the sex industry is not immoral any more, and so jobs cannot be turned
down without a risk to benefits."

Miss Garweg said that women who had worked in call centres had been
offered jobs on telephone sex lines. At one job centre in the city of
Gotha, a 23-year-old woman was told that she had to attend an
interview as a "nude model", and should report back on the meeting.
Employers in the sex industry can also advertise in job centres, a
move that came into force this month. A job centre that refuses to
accept the advertisement can be sued.

Tatiana Ulyanova, who owns a brothel in central Berlin, has been
searching the online database of her local job centre for recruits.

"Why shouldn't I look for employees through the job centre when I pay
my taxes just like anybody else?" said Miss Ulyanova.

Ulrich Kueperkoch wanted to open a brothel in Goerlitz, in former East
Germany, but his local job centre withdrew his advertisement for 12
prostitutes, saying it would be impossible to find them.

Mr Kueperkoch said that he was confident of demand for a brothel in
the area and planned to take a claim for compensation to the highest
court. Prostitution was legalised in Germany in 2002 because the
government believed that this would help to combat trafficking in
women and cut links to organised crime.

Miss Garweg believes that pressure on job centres to meet employment
targets will soon result in them using their powers to cut the
benefits of women who refuse jobs providing sexual services.

"They are already prepared to push women into jobs related to sexual
services, but which don't count as prostitution,'' she said.

"Now that prostitution is no longer considered by the law to be
immoral, there is really nothing but the goodwill of the job centres
to stop them from pushing women into jobs they don't want to do."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml

Let the Justice Minister Rob Nicholson against this as well as the
editors of local papers. If you live in Vancouver let the Mayor and
council know you are against legal brothels and ask them what they are
doing to eliminate street prostitution and brothels. At least one
local media outlet has stated there are 600 brothels in the city so
why haven't they been closed down?

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>"The Right One" <hatedby...@bc.can> wrote in message
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>> The Selling Of Young Girls The NDP Way
>> - Nicol DuMoulin
>>
>> November 26, 2007, - I am not surprised Libby Davies is behind this idea
>and
>> I am only glad Stephen Harper is PM right now and will not pay attention
>to
>> her. I am however saddened, but not surprised that some, quite frankly
>> ignorant, Blogging Tories are getting on the frat boy 'yeehaaa' bandwagon
>on
>> this one.
>>
>> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
>> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
>> selling their body is a legitimate profession?
>
>The message you send them is that government has no business in trying to
>legislate morality, and that the government that governs least governs
>best - assuming you want them to adopt conservative political values that

Govt legislates morals all the time. It is illegal to kill pll so
there are manslaughter and murder laws. You can't drink and drive,
sell meth, sell gasoline by the Imperial gallon or demand your
customers use Deutsche Marks. I'm totally opposed to legal brothels
and think they would be very bad for society and question why the many
illegal ones haven't been closed down. Let the tourists masturbate or
bring their significant others or just pick up a sex partner in a bar
like the locals do.

LadyBr...@gmail.com

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On Dec 9, 2:03 am, Greg Carr <gregpc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:24:38 GMT, "Semper Libèr(R)"
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> <nopolicestates?????Hj...@freedom4all.org> wrote:
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> >"The Right One" <hatedbydugg...@bc.can> wrote in message

Great comment.

This is such a whack job.

The Canadian budget had $18 billion in surplus and none of it was
allocated to end poverty in cities.

Canada's poverty rate is soaring and is a UN scandal as it relates to
both poverty and the treatment of minors.

Everything in life is rapidly being comodotized, EVERTHING.

IF the NDP cannot even protect minor children, what CAN they do? I
mean they have no real global vision for Canada (my biggest bitch
about them) - but I think this is so short sighted and ill-conceived,
I just cannot believe it.

There are no bigger breeding grouns for addiction, drug crimes (and i
mean real drug crimes!) than brothels. This significantly affects the
stability of a society, so the long term cost$ are staggering.

This is just what you get with POLITICS at work, rather than thinking
through and promoting what is best for citizens.

Yet another tax grab.

Roedy Green

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>> Legalizing brothels is not an idea that comes free of negative
>> repercussions. What message do we send to young girls (or boys)? That
>> selling their body is a legitimate profession? Do you want your government
>> to earn money off of the backs of young, broken girls?

The arrogance of the religious right is they imagine that by making
prostitution illegal it therefore disappears. It doesn't. It
transforms into something even more ugly.

Regulation has a hope of keeping kids out of the profession. It can
enforce some standards of disease control. With a well managed bawdy
house, the prostitutes are safe from beatings or murder. It can
ensure the prostitute is not a slave of her pimp. It can save
neighbours from the noise of cruising cars, and streetwalkers hawking
their wares at all hours of the night.

There are some books about prostitution in the 1800s in America where
the madame was a powerful political figure. It sounds like they
managed to avoid much of the nasty side effects.

I visited Las Vegas on a business trip. You couldn't walk two feet
without some hooker presenting her rump. For a gay person like my
self the whole city was gross in the extreme. However, had this
business been conducted in bawdy houses instead of the street, it
would not have impacted on me at all.

The religious right likes things the way they are. They LIKE it that
prostitutes are beaten, murdered and exploited. They like seeing
straying husbands getting HIV and taking it home to their wives and
unborn children. They like getting to watch sin punished. The
religious right are spiteful miserable people. We should not indulge
their cruelty.
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The Right One

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Here we have the "yawn" same old, same old crap, about legalizing
prostitution. But then when you ask these same yo yos that if they would
mind if their wife, mother, or daughter got into the business, the response
is a stone silence.

Socialists always have this delusion of grandiose that society is always
someone else other then themselves. I.e. someone else pays. Someone else
does the work. Someone else provides the tit they can feed off of. Today we
have a society where the faggots pack shit, and someone else pays for the
aids treatment.


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Shaping Canada's Destiny
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Those things [save for your last two or three] are legitimately illegal
because they directly violate our right to life, or in the case of dangerous
driving, our RIGHT to free and peaceful use of the highways.

Prostitution, otoh, is a private contract between consenting adults, and
therefore doesn't violate anyone's rights. In fact, any law prohibiting an
informed contract would be unlawful.

Its amazing that people can't tell the difference, and by inference, the way
in which our common law functions. No wonder our society is so messed up,
and so easily convert to police states and tyrannies.

>I'm totally opposed to legal brothels
> and think they would be very bad for society and question why the many
> illegal ones haven't been closed down.

So why do you need a law to stop you from frequenting them? Are you
addicted? If so, that is a medical condition, not a crime.

I've been to areas that don't prohibit prostitution, and I never felt
compelled hire one. More importantly, I never once felt any of my rights
were violated by those that did.

Red meat, video games and not washing your hands is also "bad for society"
but there is no way to make >a legitimate law< against it, unless you can
show someone's rights have been deliberately violated - like say if the 'non
washer' is a professional cook, they have a safety obligation. That is what
we mean when we say you can't legislate morality.... it means behaviour that
is offensive to some, but does not violate a right. The authority to create
laws is a result of our creation of rights, which are by consent.
Governments do not have authority to prohibit behaviour just because 'they
don't agree with it'.... you need a damaged party, and the element of
malice.

Think of people engaged in fighting by consent.... We call it professional
boxing, and we pay these people lots of money; yet remove the consent
element and it suddenly becomes a criminal act - an assault. It becomes
criminal, not strictly because the behaviour is bad for society, but because
without concent of one party their right to peace and security are violated.

>Let the tourists masturbate or
> bring their significant others or just pick up a sex partner in a bar
> like the locals do.

By your logic, that should be against the law too. In fact, selling alcohol
to consenting adults should be illegal, because such behaviour is 'bad for
society'.

Its not that simple...

Semper Libèr®

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"The Right One" <hatedby...@socialist.left> wrote in message
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Terry... How would you feel about sending your wife, mother or daughter to
fight in Afghanistan?

The Right One

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"Semper Libèr®" <nopolicestates?????Hj...@freedom4all.org> wrote in message
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How does that relate to prostitution? BTW nobody is sent to Afghanistan.
People volunteer to go there.

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You tell us. You were the one that gave such an example as a con against
>legalization<. I wouldn't want my daughter to do either job, and i also
wouldn't want them sent to prison and given a criminal record for making a
selfish or foolish moral decision.


>BTW nobody is sent to Afghanistan.
> People volunteer to go there.

Terry, nobody is talking about forcing women into prostitution either.
Forcing someone to do ANYTHING they don't want to do, except keep the peace,
is and should be illegal, so its a totally separate issue.

Instead of working with the conservatives on silly issues like prostitution,
why don't you work on our RIGHT to conceal carry? I'm frankly getting tired
of hearing more 911 calls from screaming >disarmed< mall shoppers and the
like, begging for the police to come to their aid, when just one lawfully
licensed conceal carry holder could have protected some or all of them, or
at the very least exercised their right to try. This is not a matter of
political policy, its a matter of the law of the land. Baring a formal
statement, It just takes a recognition from the government that no criminal
proceedings will be forthcoming on those who carry for the purpose of lawful
defence. Real common sense stuff that should have been added to the
so-called get tough on >crime< bill. How friggin tough is an act that
doesn't even recognize our right to adequately defend ourselves?

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Your making too much sense, and you just might overload Terry's thinking
process and he'll start up with
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,
while drooling...
Brain usage for Terry is something that just will not happen on it's own,
let alone common sense to come forth!.
you wasting your time with this idiot!


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