While you celebrate protestors being beaten ...
nkennedy
... it's about being a human being instead of a robot.." ->Ben Trembley
Thank you for your productive messages Ben, especially thanks for the
"heads up" on tonight's CBC program.
Robots?? not most of the shallow rightoids that post here, robot
would imply at least the degree of intelligence that would come from
consistency. Not here. We got one real shallow dish here, Allie
something or other speaking about those of us here with nothing, as
compared to those like him that are rich, yeah he called himself "rich"
then went on to talk about holding down two jobs to get there. Can you
imagine that! A wage earner, and he thinks he has more in common with
Conrad Black than with you and I.
I know we have a long way to go to convince some people that OUR
resources are just that OUR resources, no the property of Monopoly
capitalists.
But if we can effectively ignore the scummyjims, the Steven
Brittons, the Galpskis the other whining noise makers that call
themselves libertarians, we may get a conversation going with the
Goneauxs, the Coes, the Anguses. The people who can think but see the
world much different than we do.
Neil K
Neil K
The CEO@AcmeCorp
"Ben Tremblay" <ben...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> ... do you notice that your pockets have been picked?
>
>
> Now, that really isn't the point, is it. Actually, you probably notice
> that your pocket is being picked ... by your landlord, your boss, your
> politicians, your bank, your grocery store.
>
> But you can't complain, can you ... or you _say_ you can't.
> And there's nothing you can do, is there ... or you say there isn't.
>
> So of course you like to see cops beating young people who stand up for
> decency and honesty in trade and politics! Because they're standing up
> for basic values while you just keep your head down.
May the police take all the legal action needed to clear our streets of
these violent thugs. May all mindless acts of violence caused by these so
call activists be dealt with using the harhest legal tools we have.
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Now, that really isn't the point, is it. Actually, you probably notice
that your pocket is being picked ... by your landlord, your boss, your
politicians, your bank, your grocery store.
But you can't complain, can you ... or you _say_ you can't.
And there's nothing you can do, is there ... or you say there isn't.
So of course you like to see cops beating young people who stand up for
decency and honesty in trade and politics! Because they're standing up
for basic values while you just keep your head down.
Corporations are trashing the whole planet, and all you can do is come
up with excuses, blaming anyone who tries to speak out ... long-hairs,
or wierdos, or ignorant, or destructive, or crazies, or queers, or
druggies. Anything just so you don't have to think ... so that you don't
have to admit you can't even make the effort to figure out why the air
stinks, why most people are struggling to get by in the middle of an
"economic boom", why the richest are complaining that social concerns
are "unfair obstacles to trade".
One thing for sure: there's always lots of excuses for doing nothing.
But realize this: they aren't reasons ... they're just excuses.
Canadian government successfully sued by a corporation because the
health authorities blocked a gas additive. California government
successfully sued by a corporation for the same reason. Mexican
government successfully sued by a corporation for blocking a toxic
waste dump.
Watch ... next we'll be sued for trying to have some say in what happens
to our fresh water.
The economy is booming, and kids are living in abject poverty on
Canadian streets.
Agribusiness is booming, and farmers are committing suicide out of
desperation.
The banks are making record profits, and homelessness is growing.
But the people who complain about the FTA, the WTO, the IMF, the WB ...
they're just radical crazies, right?
Well guess what ... our politicians lied to us during NAFTA ... they
gave away control of our water while saying it wasn't on the tables.
And next April, in Quebec City, the same people who gave away control of
our fresh water are going to get together to plan the Free Trade Area of
the Americas ... the entire western hemisphere handed to the
corporations on a plate.
And what will you do?
Maybe nothing at all. More likely, though, is complain about crazies and
druggies and hooligans ... and cheer when the cops pump chemical weapons
into people's faces, and walk on them with their horses, and ride into
them with their motorcycles, and shoot them at close range with their
pepper guns, and smash their faces into the sidewalk, and drive their
billy clubs into their bellies.
Because that's what's going to happen ... for sure.
Only one thing is in question: will those who stand against one big
corporate work-camp be just a few? or will they be tens of thousands.
Some people are creating history. Are you willing to allow companies to
write yours for you?
Maybe it's about money for most everyone. For me, it's about dignity ...
it's about being a human being instead of a robot.
http://www.canadians.org/blueplanet/index2.html
http://www.wcel.org/wcelpub/1999/12926.html
hfx_ben
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Before you buy.
Don Wagner
>
>
> Now, that really isn't the point, is it. Actually, you probably notice
> that your pocket is being picked ... by your landlord, your boss, your
> politicians, your bank, your grocery store.
>
> But you can't complain, can you ... or you _say_ you can't.
> And there's nothing you can do, is there ... or you say there isn't.
>
> So of course you like to see cops beating young people who stand up for
> decency and honesty in trade and politics! Because they're standing up
> for basic values while you just keep your head down.
These people who stand up for "decency" and "honesty" have no
trouble depriving others of their rights to associate with whom
they please, and no respect for the property of others. Why would
I have any respect for their values?
Don Wagner
John Baglow
smuggies here.
I'll be in Quebec City next year.
In solidarity,
John
--
Cheers, "The magnificent egalitarianism of the law, which forbids rich
John and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread." --Anatole France
sunnyj...@my-deja.com
nkennedy <nken...@seascape.ns.ca> wrote:
> "..Maybe it's about money for most everyone. For me, it's about
dignity
> ... it's about being a human being instead of a robot.." ->Ben
Trembley
> Thank you for your productive messages Ben, especially thanks for
the
> "heads up" on tonight's CBC program.
> Robots?? not most of the shallow rightoids that post here,
There is a significant difference between the left winger, right wingers
and the Libertarians that post here. The two former are lazy in that
they do not give much more thought about what a question or issue
really means; they respond intuitively and totally predictably. And
immediately.
Libertarianism requires more thought and consideration as the issue must
be examined rationally.
Extremism promulgated by the likes of the above poster is standard
issue. Nothing new here. And this is well demonstrated by the dismal
failure of the left in Canada as presented by the NDP. The Liberals are
no longer center left but are more or less center center. They along
with the rest of the Third Way aplogists are trying to get a grip on the
simple truth that the state is corrosive and damaging to individuals and
the nation in which they attempt to control. The Third Way is in fact a
shift from center left to center right. It is being dressed up as
something new but is nothing more than an ideological retreat to a more
moderate position where the state becomes less of a factor in the daily
life of the citizens. And so it should.
robot
> would imply at least the degree of intelligence that would come from
> consistency. Not here. We got one real shallow dish here, Allie
> something or other speaking about those of us here with nothing, as
> compared to those like him that are rich, yeah he called himself
"rich"
> then went on to talk about holding down two jobs to get there. Can you
> imagine that! A wage earner, and he thinks he has more in common with
> Conrad Black than with you and I.
> I know we have a long way to go to convince some people that OUR
> resources are just that OUR resources, no the property of Monopoly
> capitalists.
> But if we can effectively ignore the scummyjims, the Steven
> Brittons, the Galpskis the other whining noise makers that call
> themselves libertarians, we may get a conversation going with the
> Goneauxs, the Coes, the Anguses. The people who can think but see the
> world much different than we do.
>
> Neil K
>
> Neil K
>
sunnyj...@my-deja.com
ai...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John Baglow) wrote:
> I'm with you. But guaranteed the flames will come thick and fast from
the
> smuggies here.
>
> I'll be in Quebec City next year.
>
> In solidarity,
> John
You know what is the best thing about living in Canada? Jerks can wiggle
and jiggle in the street, demonstrate their ignorance, their hate for
individual rights, their greed at keeping trade from any developing
nation, greed at keeping the nice high paying union jobs here, disregard
for property, their selfishness.
All on prime time.
And they use the tools of the society to try and destroy it.
And call themselves moderate, caring and sharing.
And represent their own narrow interests, their individual rights over
the rights of society to be free of being molested by them while they go
about their own business.
And they destroy property to ... destroy property.
They are only a power unto themselves. A small and shrinking world.
Fun in Quebec baggy. We hope your fondest wish of being cracked on the
head for CBC news comes true.
And be oppressed. I know I am.
> --
> Cheers, "The magnificent egalitarianism of the law,
which forbids rich
> John and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the
streets,
> and to steal bread." --Anatole France
>
John Baglow
>
> Fun in Quebec baggy. We hope your fondest wish of being cracked on the
> head for CBC news comes true.
>
> And be oppressed. I know I am.
Just curious--do you drink your beer after you've cried in it? Poor baby.