Re: The Waters of Mars (review)

["The Great One"]

"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:H1oMm.61414$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2...
>
> "Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
> news:ckt3g5ltt4ap7pkvl...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:41:14 -0000, "john smith"
> > <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
> >>news:u0t2g5djk7cfkutkf...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:44:01 -0800 (PST), "pbo...@aol.com"
> >>> <pbo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 16 Nov, 15:32, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:21:57 +0000, Alan Sailsbury <al...@yahoo.comm>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >Ignis Fatuus wrote:
> >>>>> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:16:18 -0500, Monsieur Tabernac
> >>>>> >> <mtaber...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:18:12 +0000, Ignis Fatuus
> >>>>> >>> <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:34:45 +0000, Alan Sailsbury
> >>>>> >>>> <al...@yahoo.comm>
> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> Agamemnon wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>> And then the guy changed into a water
> >>>>> >>>>>> monster after he ate a carrot. So how come no one ate any
> >>>>> >>>>>> carrots
> >>>>> >>>>>> or
> >>>>> >>>>>> other stuff from the garden before?
> >>>>> >>>>> It was explained that the filter had stopped the virus. The
> >>>>> >>>>> filter
> >>>>> >>>>> that
> >>>>> >>>>> was removed that day. You really should pay attention instead of
> >>>>> >>>>> writing
> >>>>> >>>>> your notes. It wasn't eating the carrot that changed him. It was
> >>>>> >>>>> the
> >>>>> >>>>> WATER he swilled it under. The clue was in the title, which is
> >>>>> >>>>> why
> >>>>> >>>>> the
> >>>>> >>>>> episode wasn't called The Carrots of Mars.
> >>>>> >>>> Pathetic, wasn't it. No filtration system is going to stop the
> >>>>> >>>> spread
> >>>>> >>>> of viruses - to do so it would effectively have to prevent the
> >>>>> >>>> flow
> >>>>> >>>> of
> >>>>> >>>> water.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Why wasn't the water tested for viruses before the station was
> >>>>> >>>> built;
> >>>>> >>>> and at regular intervals during it's operation. That is standard
> >>>>> >>>> procedure even here on Earth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>> What happened to the construction crew? Why weren't they affected
> >>>>> >>>> by
> >>>>> >>>> the virus? There would have to be contact with the water in order
> >>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>> >>>> install the extraction and filtration system.
> >>>>> >>> When you're the first humans on Mars, there usually isn't a
> >>>>> >>> construction crew that precedes you. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>> Actually, it is mentioned that the base was built by robots (from
> >>>>> >>> which the annoying Gadget machine was cobbled together). They
> >>>>> >>> probably weren't affected by viruses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >> And didn't bother sampling the water to check it's suitability for
> >>>>> >> human consumption. Curious, gravity-defying water that jumps out of
> >>>>> >> it's reservoir and pours down on the roof of the structure like a
> >>>>> >> waterfall. Self-replicating water that pours continuously from
> >>>>> >> every
> >>>>> >> orifice of it's victims.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >> I can't see the Gadget building all this on it's own - particularly
> >>>>> >> as
> >>>>> >> it needs a human handler. Presumably the rest of the robotic crew
> >>>>> >> packed up and left for home after the humans arrived.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >Or perhaps they were just dumped, obsolete? Or in storage? Or had
> >>>>> >been
> >>>>> >dismantled for something else? Use your imagination instead of
> >>>>> >expecting
> >>>>> >everything on a plate for you! It doesn't matter to anyone but you
> >>>>> >Iggy,
> >>>>> >and you're just determined to nit-pick for the hell of it aren't you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I probably wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for all the fuss they
> >>>>> made about bicycles. If it's too expensive to transport a bike then
> >>>>> could they really afford to ditch an entire robotic construction crew?
> >>>>
> >>>>What do you mean "ditch"? The robots had to be transported anyway -
> >>>>the base needed to be built. If anything it makes complete sense for
> >>>>the robots to be designed as modules that could be broken down to make
> >>>>useful human-operated equipment when the crew arrived, since it would
> >>>>save the fuel and material costs associated with sending out some
> >>>>supplies.
> >>>>
> >>>>> BTW Have you worked out yet why they didn't bother testing the water?
> >>>>> My Granny worked for NASA and she always told me to boil everything.
> >>>>
> >>>>Iggy, it's an alien virus (if indeed it's a virus - they didn't
> >>>>actually run tests on it, so for all they know it could have been a
> >>>>bacterium or larger parasite); why should it necessarily either be as
> >>>>small as terrestrial viruses or detectable/controllable using standard
> >>>>purifying techniques?
> >>>>
> >>> Are you suggesting that they spent all that money building empty
> >>> corridors and then forgot to run tests on the first sample of
> >>> extra-terrestrial water ever encountered.
> >>>
> >>> NASA's spending gazillions on trying to find some extra-terrestrial
> >>> water so that it can do just that. The standard procedure is to
> >>> collect a sample, identify anything that's Not Water (ie H2O) and then
> >>> analyse the shit out of it.
> >>>
> >>> BTW; why didn't the carrots mutate?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Who gives a flying fuck? Maybe this speculative "virus" didn't work on
> >>vegetation? Use your imagination, eh?
> >>
> > Feeling a little cranky tonight I see. Perhaps you should get to bed
> > with a nice hot mug of cocoa and a good book.
>
> Only because all you berks bitching and whining and nit-picking really get
> on my tits! I should've known better coming on the bloody newsgroup, I
> suppose...

Then "Get the Fuck out of this news-group" and FOAD !!
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[The Doctor]

In article <VLadnWusmKnBiZ_W...@centurytel.net>,
\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message =
>news:H1oMm.61414$TK7....@newsfe18.ams2...
>>=20
>> "Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message=20

>> news:ckt3g5ltt4ap7pkvl...@4ax.com...
>> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:41:14 -0000, "john smith"
>> > <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Ignis Fatuus" <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:u0t2g5djk7cfkutkf...@4ax.com...
>> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:44:01 -0800 (PST), "pbo...@aol.com"
>> >>> <pbo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On 16 Nov, 15:32, Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

>> >>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:21:57 +0000, Alan Sailsbury =

><al...@yahoo.comm>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >Ignis Fatuus wrote:
>> >>>>> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:16:18 -0500, Monsieur Tabernac
>> >>>>> >> <mtaber...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:18:12 +0000, Ignis Fatuus
>> >>>>> >>> <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:34:45 +0000, Alan Sailsbury
>> >>>>> >>>> <al...@yahoo.comm>
>> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> Agamemnon wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>>> And then the guy changed into a water

>> >>>>> >>>>>> monster after he ate a carrot. So how come no one ate any =

>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> carrots
>> >>>>> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>> >>>>>> other stuff from the garden before?

>> >>>>> >>>>> It was explained that the filter had stopped the virus. =
>The=20
>> >>>>> >>>>> filter
>> >>>>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> >>>>> was removed that day. You really should pay attention =
>instead of
>> >>>>> >>>>> writing
>> >>>>> >>>>> your notes. It wasn't eating the carrot that changed him. =
>It was
>> >>>>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>> WATER he swilled it under. The clue was in the title, =
>which is=20

>> >>>>> >>>>> why
>> >>>>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>> episode wasn't called The Carrots of Mars.

>> >>>>> >>>> Pathetic, wasn't it. No filtration system is going to stop =
>the
>> >>>>> >>>> spread
>> >>>>> >>>> of viruses - to do so it would effectively have to prevent =
>the=20
>> >>>>> >>>> flow
>> >>>>> >>>> of
>> >>>>> >>>> water.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> Why wasn't the water tested for viruses before the station =
>was
>> >>>>> >>>> built;
>> >>>>> >>>> and at regular intervals during it's operation. That is =

>standard
>> >>>>> >>>> procedure even here on Earth.
>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>>> What happened to the construction crew? Why weren't they =
>affected
>> >>>>> >>>> by
>> >>>>> >>>> the virus? There would have to be contact with the water in =

>order
>> >>>>> >>>> to
>> >>>>> >>>> install the extraction and filtration system.
>> >>>>> >>> When you're the first humans on Mars, there usually isn't a
>> >>>>> >>> construction crew that precedes you. :)
>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >>> Actually, it is mentioned that the base was built by robots =
>(from
>> >>>>> >>> which the annoying Gadget machine was cobbled together). =

>They
>> >>>>> >>> probably weren't affected by viruses.
>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >> And didn't bother sampling the water to check it's =
>suitability for
>> >>>>> >> human consumption. Curious, gravity-defying water that jumps =
>out of
>> >>>>> >> it's reservoir and pours down on the roof of the structure =
>like a
>> >>>>> >> waterfall. Self-replicating water that pours continuously =
>from=20

>> >>>>> >> every
>> >>>>> >> orifice of it's victims.
>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >> I can't see the Gadget building all this on it's own - =
>particularly
>> >>>>> >> as
>> >>>>> >> it needs a human handler. Presumably the rest of the robotic =

>crew
>> >>>>> >> packed up and left for home after the humans arrived.
>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> >Or perhaps they were just dumped, obsolete? Or in storage? Or =
>had=20

>> >>>>> >been
>> >>>>> >dismantled for something else? Use your imagination instead of
>> >>>>> >expecting

>> >>>>> >everything on a plate for you! It doesn't matter to anyone but =
>you
>> >>>>> >Iggy,
>> >>>>> >and you're just determined to nit-pick for the hell of it =
>aren't you?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I probably wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for all the fuss =
>they
>> >>>>> made about bicycles. If it's too expensive to transport a bike =
>then
>> >>>>> could they really afford to ditch an entire robotic construction =
>crew?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What do you mean "ditch"? The robots had to be transported anyway =
>-
>> >>>>the base needed to be built. If anything it makes complete sense =
>for
>> >>>>the robots to be designed as modules that could be broken down to =
>make
>> >>>>useful human-operated equipment when the crew arrived, since it =

>would
>> >>>>save the fuel and material costs associated with sending out some
>> >>>>supplies.
>> >>>>

>> >>>>> BTW Have you worked out yet why they didn't bother testing the =
>water?
>> >>>>> My Granny worked for NASA and she always told me to boil =

>everything.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Iggy, it's an alien virus (if indeed it's a virus - they didn't

>> >>>>actually run tests on it, so for all they know it could have been =
>a
>> >>>>bacterium or larger parasite); why should it necessarily either be =
>as
>> >>>>small as terrestrial viruses or detectable/controllable using =

>standard
>> >>>>purifying techniques?
>> >>>>
>> >>> Are you suggesting that they spent all that money building empty
>> >>> corridors and then forgot to run tests on the first sample of
>> >>> extra-terrestrial water ever encountered.
>> >>>

>> >>> NASA's spending gazillions on trying to find some =

>extra-terrestrial
>> >>> water so that it can do just that. The standard procedure is to

>> >>> collect a sample, identify anything that's Not Water (ie H2O) and =

>then
>> >>> analyse the shit out of it.
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW; why didn't the carrots mutate?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>> >>Who gives a flying fuck? Maybe this speculative "virus" didn't work =

>on
>> >>vegetation? Use your imagination, eh?
>> >>
>> > Feeling a little cranky tonight I see. Perhaps you should get to bed
>> > with a nice hot mug of cocoa and a good book.

>>=20
>> Only because all you berks bitching and whining and nit-picking really =
>get=20
>> on my tits! I should've known better coming on the bloody newsgroup, =
>I=20
>> suppose...=20
>
>Then "Get out of this news-group" and Die !!

>--
>Your Pal,
>John C.

Good idea for trolls like john smith.
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"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:05878ffa-246b-4747...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 24, 3:39 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <ZZIOm.22049$J94.21...@newsfe24.ams2>,
>
> john smith <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:103c98a5-c315-45da...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...

> >On Nov 16, 5:34 am, Alan Sailsbury <al...@yahoo.comm> wrote:
> >> Agamemnon wrote:
> >> > And then the guy changed into a water

> >> > monster after he ate a carrot. So how come no one ate any carrots or

> >> > other stuff from the garden before?
>

> >> It was explained that the filter had stopped the virus. The filter that
> >> was removed that day. You really should pay attention instead of writing
> >> your notes. It wasn't eating the carrot that changed him. It was the
> >> WATER he swilled it under. The clue was in the title, which is why the

> >> episode wasn't called The Carrots of Mars.
>

> >I'll be honest, despite the title, I initially thought the carrot was
> >poisonous, because the moment he bit into the carrot and dropped to
> >his knees, it made me think back to a documentary on genetically
> >modified foods in which it was argued that genetic modifications have
> >been done for centuries and that carrots originally were apparently
> >poisonous before being genetically augmented (and I knew that not a
> >lot of people knew this). So when I saw that scene the first thought
> >that came to mind is that what happened was that in starting again
> >from scratch on Mars, they had cultivated carrots the old fashined way
> >and forgot to augment them.
>
> >I was wrong of course, but I'm wondering if that was on Russell's mind
> >when he wrote it.
>
> >I'd guess...
>
> >No?
>
> >Are you sure that wasn't a dream?
>
> Tom80 is a Troll.

> --
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And I'm Gay too.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We know, you Faggot Tom80 !!
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["The Great One"]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:hei32s$f6r$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <05878ffa-246b-4747...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> sadako <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> >On Nov 24, 3:39=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >> In article <ZZIOm.22049$J94.21...@newsfe24.ams2>,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> john smith <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

> >> >news:103c98a5-c315-45da...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com..=

> >.
> >> >On Nov 16, 5:34 am, Alan Sailsbury <al...@yahoo.comm> wrote:
> >> >> Agamemnon wrote:
> >> >> > And then the guy changed into a water
> >> >> > monster after he ate a carrot. So how come no one ate any carrots or
> >> >> > other stuff from the garden before?
> >>

> >> >> It was explained that the filter had stopped the virus. The filter tha=
> >t
> >> >> was removed that day. You really should pay attention instead of writi=

> >ng
> >> >> your notes. It wasn't eating the carrot that changed him. It was the
> >> >> WATER he swilled it under. The clue was in the title, which is why the
> >> >> episode wasn't called The Carrots of Mars.
> >>
> >> >I'll be honest, despite the title, I initially thought the carrot was
> >> >poisonous, because the moment he bit into the carrot and dropped to
> >> >his knees, it made me think back to a documentary on genetically
> >> >modified foods in which it was argued that genetic modifications have
> >> >been done for centuries and that carrots originally were apparently
> >> >poisonous before being genetically augmented (and I knew that not a
> >> >lot of people knew this). So when I saw that scene the first thought
> >> >that came to mind is that what happened was that in starting again
> >> >from scratch on Mars, they had cultivated carrots the old fashined way
> >> >and forgot to augment them.
> >>
> >> >I was wrong of course, but I'm wondering if that was on Russell's mind
> >> >when he wrote it.
> >>
> >> >I'd guess...
> >>
> >> >No?
> >>
> >> >Are you sure that wasn't a dream?
> >>

> >> I Troll on like a troll.
> >> --
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> >2k.ab.ca
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> >> Merry Christmas 2009 and Happy New Year 2010- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> >Fixed that for you troll vermin.
> >
> >Just when I was beginning to feel sorry for you after all.
> >
> >Don't get it wrong again- I tire of having to correct you
>
> Thus trolled lying stalking vicious troll TOM80s the SAD
> Laugh Shack manager.

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"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> is a Gay Twit !!
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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:hei30p$f5p$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <jZqdnYMs5buoFpHW...@centurytel.net>,

> \"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >

> >"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message =
> >news:hegumq$t3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> >> In article <ZZIOm.22049$J94....@newsfe24.ams2>,
> >> john smith <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"sadako" <tom...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message=20
> >> =

> >>news:103c98a5-c315-45da...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com..=
> >.
> >> >On Nov 16, 5:34 am, Alan Sailsbury <al...@yahoo.comm> wrote:
> >> >> Agamemnon wrote:
> >> >> > And then the guy changed into a water

> >> >> > monster after he ate a carrot. So how come no one ate any carrots =

> >or
> >> >> > other stuff from the garden before?
> >> >>

> >> >> It was explained that the filter had stopped the virus. The filter =
> >that
> >> >> was removed that day. You really should pay attention instead of =
> >writing
> >> >> your notes. It wasn't eating the carrot that changed him. It was =
> >the
> >> >> WATER he swilled it under. The clue was in the title, which is why =

> >the
> >> >> episode wasn't called The Carrots of Mars.
> >> >
> >> >I'll be honest, despite the title, I initially thought the carrot was
> >> >poisonous, because the moment he bit into the carrot and dropped to
> >> >his knees, it made me think back to a documentary on genetically
> >> >modified foods in which it was argued that genetic modifications have
> >> >been done for centuries and that carrots originally were apparently
> >> >poisonous before being genetically augmented (and I knew that not a
> >> >lot of people knew this). So when I saw that scene the first thought
> >> >that came to mind is that what happened was that in starting again

> >> >from scratch on Mars, they had cultivated carrots the old fashined =

> >way
> >> >and forgot to augment them.
> >> >

> >> >I was wrong of course, but I'm wondering if that was on Russell's =

> >mind
> >> >when he wrote it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I'd guess...
> >> >
> >> >No?
> >> >

> >> >Are you sure that wasn't a dream?=20
> >>=20
> >> Troll on you pair of trolls.
> >> --=20
> >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici =
> >doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
> >
> >They will.......because you told them to !!
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> >John C.
>
> But Sad TRoll SADako just reappear so add to your list.

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Hi will be added to the list of "Gay Trolls" !!
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