Neil K
But now that the Americans are in it, for good or bad, they have to see it
to it's conclusion. I think that all of us here, whether we are opposed to
this course of action or not, are hoping that it can be completed with a
minimum number of military losses on our side, and a minimum of civilian
losses on their side.
This is not a team sport, and I have the feeling from the first 3 weeks of
military strikes (I'm using CNN jargon), that neither side is going to be
able to declare victory here. The Americans are the last superpower, and I
can't see them stopping until they have achieved their goals, no matter the
cost. So some of the civilian population of Afghanistan and some in the US
military will die. All as a result of Mr. bin Laden trying to impress
muslims by showing them that his reach extends across the Atlantic.
But even if the Americans defeat the Taliban and kill bin Laden, they will
need to leave forces in Kabul to back up the new government. And those
forces will be subject to terrorist attacks from extremist Muslims in the
area.
Where does it end? This isn't a rhetorical question, I'm asking.
--
Mike
Don't respond to the neo-con attacks in an angry way, don't let them push
you into becoming like them. It's time for the real conservatives, the
moderates, and anyone else with something thoughtful to say to turn this
back into a discussion group. Eventually the extremists will leave.
Keep in mind that WWII 'didn't end'. We defeated a brutal dictator
and left half of Europe under another brutal dictatorship for the next
four decades and engaged in a 'cold war' during the same period with
little 'hot wars' being fought with surrogates worldwide. Wars, in
terms of the modern age, appear to be fought in 'chapters' rather than
just hearing the last shot fired and watching the last man fall.
Yes I think you are right. In fact, just as the cold war grew out of the
ashes of WW2, it could be said that this "war" has grown out of the ashes of
the cold war. Some of the major combatants are the former Muhajedeen
fighters, and of course the Taliban. Neither group would likely have ever
come into existence if the USSR hadn't invaded Afghanistan.
It's a stretch, I don't think I'd spend too much time defending this thesis.
This is the right question to be asking. I have tried to find the answer
to this and
all I see is there will be no end.
There is a reason why the civil war in Afghanistan has continued for
twenty years.
Its near impossible to win a war there.
If the US does manage to do what hasn't yet been done and kills every
Islamic fundamentalist and their sons in Afghanistan. They will still
have to do the same to
Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, ect. They may run out of bombs before
they run out of enemies.
During my entire life The Israel/Palestine conflict has continued with
no end in site.
As Canadians we could:
Declare ourselves neutral
Work on building a sustainable Canadian economy
Put our many newly unemployed to work on finding and producing
alternative energy products
Grow our food locally
Finally share what we learn with countries not consumed with bloodlust.
This is a important debate. The solutions may not seem to be in our best
interest in the imminent future, but it is in the best interests of our
children.