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Roedy Green

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Aug 12, 2009, 5:03:41 PM8/12/09
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Tim Horton's stirred up a Twitter firestorm when it supported a
bigoted right wing religious group whose goal is to see the removal of
civil rights for gays, especially the right to marry.

I wrote them about it. They responded saying the Rhode Island
franchisee had violated the guidelines. Tim's policy does not permit
support of ANY religious groups, lobby groups or political groups.

Seems to me the Rhode Island franchisee is guilty of breach of
contract on all three grounds.

Tim's pointed out they get approached thousands of times each year for
free donuts and coffee for various events.

So I think Tim's truly is innocent. This looks like the fault of the
franchisee, not the company as a whole.

It is not as though Tim's has made a habit of this, or that they tried
to excuse the franchisee's action.

Bigots excuse breach of contract, violence, intimidation and even
murder as supreme virtue. That something like this would happen when
Tim's expanded into the bible belt was inevitable.

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"You can have quality software, or you can have pointer arithmetic; but you cannot have both at the same time."
~ Bertrand Meyer (born: 1950 age: 59) 1989, creator of design by contract and the Eiffel language.

Archie

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Aug 12, 2009, 6:11:11 PM8/12/09
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On Aug 12, 5:03 pm, Roedy Green <see_webs...@mindprod.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Tim Horton's stirred up a Twitter firestorm when it supported a
> bigoted right wing religious group whose goal is to see the removal of
> civil rights for gays, especially the right to marry.
>
> I wrote them about it. They responded saying the Rhode Island
> franchisee had violated the guidelines.  Tim's policy does not permit
> support of ANY religious groups, lobby groups or political groups.
>
> Seems to me the Rhode Island franchisee is guilty of breach of
> contract on all three grounds.
>
> Tim's pointed out they get approached thousands of times each year for
> free donuts and coffee for various events.
>
> So I think Tim's truly is innocent.  This looks like the fault of the
> franchisee, not the company as a whole.
>
> It is not as though Tim's has made a habit of this, or that they tried
> to excuse the franchisee's action.
>
> Bigots excuse breach of contract, violence, intimidation and even
> murder as supreme virtue. That something like this would happen when
> Tim's expanded into the bible belt was inevitable.
>
> --
> Roedy Green Canadian Mind Productshttp://mindprod.com

>
> "You can have quality software, or you can have pointer arithmetic; but you cannot have both at the same time."
> ~ Bertrand Meyer (born: 1950 age: 59) 1989, creator of design by contract and the Eiffel language.

They would like to drop the 'roll up the rim to win' thing.

Scotius

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Aug 28, 2009, 4:58:26 PM8/28/09
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:41 -0700, Roedy Green
<see_w...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

>Tim Horton's stirred up a Twitter firestorm when it supported a
>bigoted right wing religious group whose goal is to see the removal of
>civil rights for gays, especially the right to marry.

No one in that group said anything about civil rights for
gays, or the removal of same. You say that, obviously because you
don't think there's anything wrong with them being against gay
marriage. If you did think there was anything wrong with them being
against it, you wouldn't have to make the claim they're "against
civili rights for gays".
You've discredited yourself. In the words of a once great
officer of the law, "I'm sure this isn't exactly your debut at this
sort of thing".

>
>I wrote them about it. They responded saying the Rhode Island
>franchisee had violated the guidelines. Tim's policy does not permit
>support of ANY religious groups, lobby groups or political groups.
>
>Seems to me the Rhode Island franchisee is guilty of breach of
>contract on all three grounds.
>
>Tim's pointed out they get approached thousands of times each year for
>free donuts and coffee for various events.
>
>So I think Tim's truly is innocent. This looks like the fault of the
>franchisee, not the company as a whole.
>
>It is not as though Tim's has made a habit of this, or that they tried
>to excuse the franchisee's action.
>
>Bigots excuse breach of contract, violence, intimidation and even
>murder as supreme virtue. That something like this would happen when
>Tim's expanded into the bible belt was inevitable.

Bigots might excuse such things. I wonder what sort of
behaviour YOU'RE willing to excuse when you agree with "the cause"...

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