NEW Immigration-Canada Web Site
JW
----- Original Message -----
From: Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>
Newsgroups: edm.general,bc.general
Sent: August 9, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: NEW Immigration-Canada Web Site
> Wellington Bubber Roots wrote:
>
> > Jennifer wrote in message
<37AF481B...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>...
> > >
> > >Free up some space then and move back to your "old country" where your
> > >ancestors moved from. Make way for the the new citizens.
We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
> > >
> >
> > And what the heck is wrong with someone coming up with a site like that,
> > Jennifer? You've mentioned that people should be tolerant of other
people's
> > opinions. The site in question does a good job of stating facts and
concerns.
> > And I quite frankly agree with it.
>
> What bugs me about the site was that this-
>
> Please visit our brief site which describes our feelings
> about Canada's Immigration System.
>
> Citizens Concerned About Continued Mass Third
> World Immigration To Canada
>
> The above is directed towards "Third World Immigration". Ask yourself,
which
> countries are classified as "third world"? Think about it for a moment.
Why not
> address immigrants from "first world" or "second world"? Why are just
"third
> world immigrants" being the target of contention in the web site?
Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
problem in Canada.
>
>
> >
> >
> > "New citizens"? Well, I'm less than 30 years old, so you could say I
will be
> > part of the future. Why should Canada take on the world?
>
> The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate here
and
> become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens, they are
> usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like elsewhere
and
> are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
constructive
> manner.
Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
claims from the Immigration Industry.
The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
recent years.
And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
> >
> >
> > I'll be coming up with some good facts and figures today or tommorrow
that I
> > have read about immigration.
> >
>
> Instead of finding facts and figures about immigration, go find some urls
that
> tell you how to write a resume and how to get that elusive job that you
are
> finding so hard to find. There could be an immigrant or a new Canadian
getting
> that job right now whilst your finding your facts and figures.
>
>
>
Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
only hire "their own".
Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
get any service.
You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
Regards,
JW
Please visit our brief web site which discusses our feelings
on Canada's Immigration System.
Citizens Opposed to Continued Mass Third World Immigration
To Canada
Http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/savecanada/index.html
John
Obviously an idiot that most certainly does not own a main stream firm
!
Jennifer
>
> > > Jennifer wrote in message
> <37AF481B...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>...
> > > >
> > > >Free up some space then and move back to your "old country" where your
> > > >ancestors moved from. Make way for the the new citizens.
>
> We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
> and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like it then
move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new country,
to try to better their own lives.
>
> > What bugs me about the site was that this-
> >
> > Please visit our brief site which describes our feelings
> > about Canada's Immigration System.
> >
> > Citizens Concerned About Continued Mass Third
> > World Immigration To Canada
> >
> > The above is directed towards "Third World Immigration". Ask yourself,
> which
> > countries are classified as "third world"? Think about it for a moment.
> Why not
> > address immigrants from "first world" or "second world"? Why are just
> "third
> > world immigrants" being the target of contention in the web site?
>
> Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
> Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
> problem in Canada.
How is it a problem that someone coming from a Third World is a problem?
>
>
> > The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate here
> and become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens, they
> are
> > usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like elsewhere
> and are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
> constructive manner.
>
> Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
> claims from the Immigration Industry.
Maybe you should look at the stats from Immigration Canada. According to those
stats the total refugees from 1987 to 1998 is 2,519,241. The highest year for
immigrants was in 1993-256,757 immigrants were admitted to Canada.
>
>
> The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
> immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
> recent years.
The information is based in 1998 and can be found here-
http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/english/pdffiles/pub/facts98e.pdf
>
>
> And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
What do you mean by this???
>
> Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
>
> Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
Usually the government that they are being dictated by puts their country in a
mess. Are you responsible for the GST, or is the Brian Mulroney govt
responsible for the GST? How can you blame immigrants for their country's
economic plights?
>
> Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
> only hire "their own".
>
> Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
> sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
> who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
>
> And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
> ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
> get any service.
Everytime in the past when there was a numerous number of immigrants coming from
a specific country (ie Ukraine, Germany), there have always been the practice of
people that set up shops and business that hire their own. Any person that has
been of the Jewish faith has also been accused of this. Why is there always the
hysteria, that a particular culture or language will take over our own.
According to Immigration Canada, the largest number of immigrants came to Canada
in 1913, there was 400,870. The 3 previous years were a buildup to this number.
These immigrants were mainly from the Ukraine, and I don't here too many people
speaking Ukrainian on the streets.
>
> You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
Gee, isn't that what the British did when they landed here???
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
(Snip)
: We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
You a Native?
What nation/tribe(whatever)?
NO?
Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
--
Glenn.
------
My illusions are shattered,
That I might build a new one from their pieces.
In chaos, all is possible.
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>
: Newsgroups: edm.general,bc.general
: Sent: August 9, 1999 4:18 PM
: Subject: Re: NEW Immigration-Canada Web Site
: > Wellington Bubber Roots wrote:
: >
: > > Jennifer wrote in message
: <37AF481B...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>...
: > > >
: > > >Free up some space then and move back to your "old country" where your
: > > >ancestors moved from. Make way for the the new citizens.
: We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
The "OLD" citizens don't all vote LIBERAL, while most of the new one's do.
THAT, and only that, is the reason that the Cretin government is so gaga
with immigration. Look at those Chinese "refugees" recently captured off
the coast of Vancouver Island. Instead of being immediately deported the
Hell back to China, most of them were turned loose, simply having to
promise to report to immigration officials within 28 days. Yeah, right. If
you think ANY of them will report in, well I have some beach front land
in Florida to sell you. Genuine refugee are immigrants fleeing for their
lives. These people do NOT meet this important criterion.
: > > >
: > >
: > > And what the heck is wrong with someone coming up with a site like that,
: > > Jennifer? You've mentioned that people should be tolerant of other
: people's
: > > opinions. The site in question does a good job of stating facts and
: concerns.
: > > And I quite frankly agree with it.
: >
: > What bugs me about the site was that this-
: >
: > Please visit our brief site which describes our feelings
: > about Canada's Immigration System.
: >
: > Citizens Concerned About Continued Mass Third
: > World Immigration To Canada
: >
: > The above is directed towards "Third World Immigration". Ask yourself,
: which
: > countries are classified as "third world"? Think about it for a moment.
: Why not
: > address immigrants from "first world" or "second world"? Why are just
: "third
: > world immigrants" being the target of contention in the web site?
: Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
: Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
: problem in Canada.
: >
: >
: > >
: > >
: > > "New citizens"? Well, I'm less than 30 years old, so you could say I
: will be
: > > part of the future. Why should Canada take on the world?
: >
: > The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate here
: and
: > become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens, they are
: > usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like elsewhere
: and
: > are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
: constructive
: > manner.
: Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
: claims from the Immigration Industry.
: The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
: immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
: recent years.
: And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
: Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
: Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
: > >
: > >
: > > I'll be coming up with some good facts and figures today or tommorrow
: that I
: > > have read about immigration.
: > >
: >
: > Instead of finding facts and figures about immigration, go find some urls
: that
: > tell you how to write a resume and how to get that elusive job that you
: are
: > finding so hard to find. There could be an immigrant or a new Canadian
: getting
: > that job right now whilst your finding your facts and figures.
: >
: >
: >
: Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
: only hire "their own".
: Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
: sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
: who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
: And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
: ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
: get any service.
: You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
: Regards,
: JW
: Please visit our brief web site which discusses our feelings
: on Canada's Immigration System.
: Citizens Opposed to Continued Mass Third World Immigration
: To Canada
: Http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/savecanada/index.html
--
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
: JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
: (Snip)
: : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
: You a Native?
: What nation/tribe(whatever)?
: NO?
: Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
Excuse Me???
So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what? They
were eventually conquered by various Europeans. They lost. Period. To the
victors go the spoils. That is HOW the world works.
: --
: Glenn.
: ------
: My illusions are shattered,
: That I might build a new one from their pieces.
: In chaos, all is possible.
--
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: : (Snip)
: : : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: : : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
: : You a Native?
: : What nation/tribe(whatever)?
: : NO?
: : Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
: Excuse Me???
There's no excuse for you, Sharx.
Fuck, I'm actually surprised you even asked for one.
: So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what?
He was basing his argument on who was here first.
If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
argument, then he should try another justification.
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
Distribution:
ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: : ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: : : JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
: : : (Snip)
: : : : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: : : : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
: : : You a Native?
: : : What nation/tribe(whatever)?
: : : NO?
: : : Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
: : Excuse Me???
: There's no excuse for you, Sharx.
: Fuck, I'm actually surprised you even asked for one.
: : So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what?
: He was basing his argument on who was here first.
: If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
: argument, then he should try another justification.
Doesn't matter *which* group was his first, if they couldn't hang on to
the land. It isn't a case of "finders-keepers" but more like
"losers-weepers". Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!
: --
: Glenn.
: ------
: My illusions are shattered,
: That I might build a new one from their pieces.
: In chaos, all is possible.
--
r3d3...@ecn.ab.ca
: JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
: : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
: You a Native?
: What nation/tribe(whatever)?
: NO?
: Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
See "Kennewick" man.
This and a growing body of evidence of early Caucasian emigration.
--
Live and Learn
Michael Voytinsky
"JW" <true...@canoemail.com> wrote:
> We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
> and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
Am I to take from this that you are a Canadian Indian or an Inuit?
--
Michael Voytinsky
Ottawa Ontario Canada
http://www.igs.net/~michaelv
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AgentBlue
sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote in message <37aff...@ecn.ab.ca>...
>Organization: Edmonton Community Network
>Distribution:
>
>ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
>: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
<snip>
>
>Doesn't matter *which* group was his first, if they couldn't hang on to
>the land. It isn't a case of "finders-keepers" but more like
>"losers-weepers". Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!
>
I presume from this philosophy that if high levels of immigration continue,
you'll eventually be the "loser" and that'll be a-ok with you since brute
force wins all, right? If you can't hang onto the land then c'ya later? Some
people have become complex enough to try to find a way around your
knuckle-dragging caveman shit, call it my liberal flaw.
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>He was basing his argument on who was here first.
>If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
>argument, then he should try another justification.
It's partially the same argument ("we were here first") they use to
justify their anti-immigration and assimilation stance.
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>Excuse Me???
>
>So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what? They
>were eventually conquered by various Europeans. They lost. Period. To the
>victors go the spoils. That is HOW the world works.
And now you will be conquered by Asians.
To the victors go the spoils. That is HOW the world works.
BWHAHAHAHA!!!!
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
Distribution:
Michael Voytinsky (mich...@igs.net) wrote:
: In article <001801bee2c0$d1836500$04000005@oemcomputer>,
: "JW" <true...@canoemail.com> wrote:
: > We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
: > and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
: Am I to take from this that you are a Canadian Indian or an Inuit?
Another stupido who doesn't realize that even the Natives are not "native"
to Canada.
: --
: Michael Voytinsky
: Ottawa Ontario Canada
: http://www.igs.net/~michaelv
: Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
--
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
(Snip)
: : He was basing his argument on who was here first.
: : If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
: : argument, then he should try another justification.
: Doesn't matter *which* group was his first,
IF your entire argument is BASED on who was here first, then
YES it DOES matter.
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
Distribution:
nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
Like Hell I will be conquered by the Asians. Blood will flow in the
streets before THAT happens..ASIAN blood, I might add.
--
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
Distribution:
ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: : ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: (Snip)
: : : He was basing his argument on who was here first.
: : : If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
: : : argument, then he should try another justification.
: : Doesn't matter *which* group was his first,
: IF your entire argument is BASED on who was here first, then
: YES it DOES matter.
What matters is who have CURRENT possession of the land. All the rest is
wussy liberal politically correct guilt tripping.
: --
: Glenn.
: ------
: My illusions are shattered,
: That I might build a new one from their pieces.
: In chaos, all is possible.
--
dm
>: : : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
>: : : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
>
>: : What nation/tribe(whatever)?
>
>: : NO?
>: : Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
>
>
>There's no excuse for you, Sharx.
>Fuck, I'm actually surprised you even asked for one.
Getting frustrated, Glenn?
This kind of language isn't like you !
:-)
dm
>
>: So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what?
>
>He was basing his argument on who was here first.
>If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
>argument, then he should try another justification.
>
intp...@ecn.ab.ca
We might welcome third world immigration.
Since the Liberal have destroyed Canada now we
are third world. Oh , goody.
--
I wish the politicians cared I believe the Gods will greet
as much about the rights of us as comrades those who played
victims as they do the rights a noble part, though our nobility
of child killers M. Mayes on Earth be reckoned infamy.
D.O. Olympus
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>By not strictly controlling immigration, we are sentencing ourselves to
>death.
>
Not death just assimilation. Do you think subsequent generations will
care? It would make Alberta a more interesting place. That cowboy
image is rather tiresome.
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>
>Like Hell I will be conquered by the Asians. Blood will flow in the
>streets before THAT happens..ASIAN blood, I might add.
Naw they'll carve you up like some good Albertan herfer.
Michael Voytinsky
"JW" <true...@canoemail.com> wrote:
> And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
> ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
> get any service.
Never had any problems with any ethnic stores myself.
The reason you do not get any service is because you are an asshole.
Graeme Hiebert
<mich...@igs.net> wrote:
> Never had any problems with any ethnic stores myself.
I'm not sure which "ethnic shopping ghettoes" JW is referring to, but I've
had nothing but the best of service in Chinatown and the East Indian shops
along Fraser Street.
-g
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: : : : He was basing his argument on who was here first.
: : : : If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
: : : : argument, then he should try another justification.
: : : Doesn't matter *which* group was his first,
: : IF your entire argument is BASED on who was here first, then
: : YES it DOES matter.
: What matters is who have CURRENT possession of the land.
Not when your trying to explain your policies about what to do with that
land. It matters when you're deciding who *makes* the policies, but
that's a different subject.
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca wrote in message
(SNip)
: >And now you will be conquered by Asians.
: >To the victors go the spoils. That is HOW the world works.
: >BWHAHAHAHA!!!!
: Yup.
: You are right, Nevins.
: By not strictly controlling immigration, we are sentencing ourselves to
: death.
Um... so?
If our culture can only survive through isolationism and institutional
protections, then I'm not about to mourn it's death.
foamy
>If our culture can only survive through isolationism and institutional
>protections, then I'm not about to mourn it's death.
And in order to be consistent, you would apply that same principle
to the Indian population and immediately call for the end to all
" institutional protections " and " isolationism " for them, right ?
Jim
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
Assuming you're talking about American Indians, and that by
'isolationism' you're referring to the reserves - then yes.
foamy
>Assuming you're talking about American Indians, and that by
>'isolationism' you're referring to the reserves - then yes.
No I was referring to areas of land ceded by the crown whereby
Indians would be free to " isolate " themselves through location,
laws, and race. [ ie a certain treaty pending in BC ].
If the answer to the above is still yes, then how do you reconcile
your earlier comment that any culture which can only survive
through intervention and isolationism isn't worth saving ?
Jim
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: If the answer to the above is still yes, then how do you reconcile
: your earlier comment that any culture which can only survive
: through intervention and isolationism isn't worth saving ?
I didn't say they weren't worth saving. I said their death wasn't
worth mourning.
foamy
>I didn't say they weren't worth saving. I said their death wasn't
>worth mourning.
Ok, however I think that's a distinction without a difference.
Jim
dm
<37b207ba...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
>>death.
>>
>
>care? It would make Alberta a more interesting place. That cowboy
>image is rather tiresome.
So is watching your brain "laying-in-state".
dm
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>
>So is watching your brain "laying-in-state".
>
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Come on, your jokes are always the same. At least my C'boy humor
varies a little.
Irina
<ka...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37afa...@ecn.ab.ca...
> JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
>
> (Snip)
> : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
> : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
>
> You a Native?
> What nation/tribe(whatever)?
>
> NO?
> Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
No but he may be one of the "first" born here. That makes him truly
canadian. As far as I am concerned living in canada for two years does not
give anyone real canadian citizenship. How could it, they weren't born here.
Irina
Irina
<ka...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37afc...@ecn.ab.ca...
> sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> : ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> : : JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
>
> : : (Snip)
> : : : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
> : : : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
>
> : : You a Native?
> : : What nation/tribe(whatever)?
>
> : : NO?
> : : Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
>
>
> There's no excuse for you, Sharx.
> Fuck, I'm actually surprised you even asked for one.
>
>
> If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
> argument, then he should try another justification.
The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
Irina
dm <dma...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:ha5s3.5581$k3.4...@news1.telusplanet.net...
> >: ka...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> >: : JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
> >
> >: : (Snip)
> >: : : We were here first why don't you move back and "free up some space"
> >: : : and "make way" for the OLD citizens.
> >
> >: : You a Native?
> >: : What nation/tribe(whatever)?
> >
> >: : NO?
> >: : Then you sure as fuck weren't here "first."
> >
> >: Excuse Me???
> >
> >There's no excuse for you, Sharx.
> >Fuck, I'm actually surprised you even asked for one.
>
>
> This kind of language isn't like you !
He told me to step away when he thought I wasn't make sense but methinks
that someone has been burning the candle at both ends and now is suffering
himself.
Irina
>
> :-)
>
> dm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >: So the Natives crossed over the then-Bering Land Bridge? SO what?
> >
> >He was basing his argument on who was here first.
> >If he doesn't want to recognize the Natives superior claim to that
> >argument, then he should try another justification.
> >
dm
<37b5c934...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
Yes, but the the unchanging monotony of your decaying grey matter never
changes.
dm
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
> Yes, but the the unchanging monotony of your decaying grey matter never
>changes.
How many appliances do you have (on the front porch)?
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>
>The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
And so even though I've become a citizen I can be deported?
When was this law passed?
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>
>No but he may be one of the "first" born here. That makes him truly
>canadian. As far as I am concerned living in canada for two years does not
>give anyone real canadian citizenship. How could it, they weren't born here.
>
That's right. How could they learn the fine arts of backy chewin and
crick jumpin in that time?
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:46:19 GMT, "Irina" <iri...@home.com> wrote:
: >
: >The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
: And so even though I've become a citizen I can be deported?
: When was this law passed?
Very soon. It is known as Bill C-63. The Minister, within 5 years of
citizenship being granted, may revoke it. This sounds like a damn good
weapon to use on undesirables who "forgot" to include certain data on
their application, or, for whom, the truth has taken a little longer than
usual to come to light. Canadian citizenship should be made a LOT harder
to obtain. Also, when a person is born on Canadian soil to NON-Citizens,
citizenship should NOT be automatic..it should be tied to the status of
the infant's mother.
dm
<37bffad4...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
You're running out of material, Nevins.
<<<yawn>>>
Any luck finding a new brain to replace the one that just passed on?
dm
dm
It would be a shamee to deport Nevins.
His childish rhetoric makes great fertilizer.
Shame about that brain dying so young, though...
dm
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>Very soon. It is known as Bill C-63. The Minister, within 5 years of
>citizenship being granted, may revoke it. This sounds like a damn good
>weapon to use on undesirables who "forgot" to include certain data on
>their application, or, for whom, the truth has taken a little longer than
>usual to come to light. Canadian citizenship should be made a LOT harder
>to obtain.
It would make more sence to make becomeing a citizen more difficult
rather than undermine the idea of citizenship by making it revokable.
>Also, when a person is born on Canadian soil to NON-Citizens,
>citizenship should NOT be automatic..it should be tied to the status of
>the infant's mother.
This is a Sharxian ammendmant to the bill no doubt. I suppose you do
not agree with Irina when she says that the only true Canadian is one
that is born here.
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
> It would be a shamee to deport Nevins.
Not possible under the supposed legislation Sharx mentions
since I have been a citizen for fifteen years.
>His childish rhetoric makes great fertilizer.
More christian charity.
>Shame about that brain dying so young, though...
More witless "humor".
Sean MacUisdin
> The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
>
> Irina
What a lot of pseuodo-Canadians we must have these days.
Sean of Clan Uisdin
-------------------
If anyone is looking for Sean of Clan Uisdin, he can be found in the
bathtub mulling over his thoughts wi' a dram o' Glen Ord.
Remove 'mac' to reply.
dm
>Irina wrote:
>
>> The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
>>
>> Irina
>
>What a lot of pseuodo-Canadians we must have these days.
Yep.
They're damn lucky to be here, too.
dm
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
Not necessarily. I suggest a *probationary" status lasting for 20 years
for citizenship granted to anyone who wasn't born on Canadian soil. During
this twenty year period, citizenship could be abrogated for any number of
reasons: e.g. conviction under the Criminal Code, ANY negative information
brought to light which wasn't disclosed in the initial application,
bankruptcy...you get the picture.
Cory Muzyka
> citizenship should NOT be automatic..it should be tied to the status of
> the infant's mother.
Ridiculous - if one of the parents is Canadian, and the other is a landed
immigrant, then the child should be Canadian. Does anyone know if these
"boat people" (I don't like the term, but there it is) get medical coverage
from the BC Government?
Irina
<nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37c0fb68...@news.compusmart.ab.ca...
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:46:19 GMT, "Irina" <iri...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
>
> When was this law passed?
You may be a citizen of Canada but you are not a Canadian. Why? When someone
asks you where you were born what do you say? Bingo...
Irina
Irina
> >
> >> The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
> >>
> >
> >What a lot of pseuodo-Canadians we must have these days.
>
> Yep.
>
> They're damn lucky to be here, too.
More like good thing canadians have deep pockets.
Irina
>
Irina
He should try the House of cryogenic house I hear they have lots of heads
plugged in and are just waiting for a body. :-)
Irinsa
>
>
Irina
<nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37c1fbb9...@news.compusmart.ab.ca...
> >canadian. As far as I am concerned living in canada for two years does
not
> >give anyone real canadian citizenship. How could it, they weren't born
here.
> >
>
> That's right. How could they learn the fine arts of backy chewin and
> crick jumpin in that time?
Exactly.
>
Irina
<sh...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37ba1...@ecn.ab.ca...
> Organization: Edmonton Community Network
> Distribution:
>
> nevins@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> : On 17 Aug 99 10:00:14 GMT, sh...@ecn.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>
> : >Very soon. It is known as Bill C-63. The Minister, within 5 years of
> : >citizenship being granted, may revoke it. This sounds like a damn good
> : >weapon to use on undesirables who "forgot" to include certain data on
> : >their application, or, for whom, the truth has taken a little longer
than
> : >usual to come to light. Canadian citizenship should be made a LOT
harder
> : >to obtain.
>
> : It would make more sence to make becomeing a citizen more difficult
> : rather than undermine the idea of citizenship by making it revokable.
>
> : >citizenship should NOT be automatic..it should be tied to the status of
> : >the infant's mother.
>
> : not agree with Irina when she says that the only true Canadian is one
> : that is born here.
>
> Not necessarily. I suggest a *probationary" status lasting for 20 years
> for citizenship granted to anyone who wasn't born on Canadian soil. During
> this twenty year period, citizenship could be abrogated for any number of
> reasons: e.g. conviction under the Criminal Code, ANY negative information
> brought to light which wasn't disclosed in the initial application,
> bankruptcy...you get the picture.
Actually Sharx there are hundreds of people who have committed a crime in
Canada and are still either waiting to be sent back or some of their
countries do not even want them back so what you would do with them?
>
>
foamy
>Ridiculous - if one of the parents is Canadian, and the other is a landed
>immigrant, then the child should be Canadian. Does anyone know if these
>"boat people" (I don't like the term, but there it is) get medical coverage
>from the BC Government?
Yep.
Jim
Irina
<sh...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37afb...@ecn.ab.ca...
> JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
> The "OLD" citizens don't all vote LIBERAL, while most of the new one's do.
> THAT, and only that, is the reason that the Cretin government is so gaga
> with immigration. Look at those Chinese "refugees" recently captured off
> the coast of Vancouver Island. Instead of being immediately deported the
> Hell back to China, most of them were turned loose, simply having to
> promise to report to immigration officials within 28 days. Yeah, right. If
> you think ANY of them will report in, well I have some beach front land
> in Florida to sell you. Genuine refugee are immigrants fleeing for their
> lives. These people do NOT meet this important criterion.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the government policy say that you only
have to be a canadian citizen to run for office? If this is the case then
when our government is made up of all one group (asian, chinese, french
whatever) who do you think they are going to support and who they are going
to let in? Who will protect canadians then?
Irina
>
> : > > >
> : > >
> : > > And what the heck is wrong with someone coming up with a site like
that,
> : > > Jennifer? You've mentioned that people should be tolerant of other
> : people's
> : > > opinions. The site in question does a good job of stating facts and
> : concerns.
> : > > And I quite frankly agree with it.
> : >
> : > What bugs me about the site was that this-
> : >
> : > Please visit our brief site which describes our feelings
> : > about Canada's Immigration System.
> : >
> : > Citizens Concerned About Continued Mass Third
> : > World Immigration To Canada
> : >
> : > The above is directed towards "Third World Immigration". Ask yourself,
> : which
> : > countries are classified as "third world"? Think about it for a
moment.
> : Why not
> : > address immigrants from "first world" or "second world"? Why are just
> : "third
> : > world immigrants" being the target of contention in the web site?
>
>
> : Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
> : Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
> : problem in Canada.
>
>
> : >
> : >
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > "New citizens"? Well, I'm less than 30 years old, so you could say I
> : will be
> : > > part of the future. Why should Canada take on the world?
> : >
> : > The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate
here
> : and
> : > become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens, they
are
> : > usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like
elsewhere
> : and
> : > are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
> : constructive
> : > manner.
>
>
> : Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
> : claims from the Immigration Industry.
>
> : The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
> : immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
> : recent years.
>
> : And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
>
> : Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
>
> : Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
>
>
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > I'll be coming up with some good facts and figures today or
tommorrow
> : that I
> : > > have read about immigration.
> : > >
> : >
> : > Instead of finding facts and figures about immigration, go find some
urls
> : that
> : > tell you how to write a resume and how to get that elusive job that
you
> : are
> : > finding so hard to find. There could be an immigrant or a new
Canadian
> : getting
> : > that job right now whilst your finding your facts and figures.
> : >
> : >
> : >
>
>
> : Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
> : only hire "their own".
>
> : Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
> : sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
> : who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
>
> : And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
> : ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
> : get any service.
>
> : You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
>
>
> : Regards,
>
> : JW
>
> : Please visit our brief web site which discusses our feelings
> : on Canada's Immigration System.
>
> : Citizens Opposed to Continued Mass Third World Immigration
> : To Canada
>
> : Http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/savecanada/index.html
>
>
> --
>
>
Irina
Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37AFB50A...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca...
> I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like it
then
> move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new
country,
> to try to better their own lives.
Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
> Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
> > Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
> > problem in Canada.
>
> How is it a problem that someone coming from a Third World is a problem?
How much more of your paycheck can you afford to give away to support
someone else instead of your own children and family? Where do you suppose
the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for the
next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words "welfare"
for them nothing for our own.
>
> >
> >
> > > The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate
here
> > and become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens,
they
> > are
> > > usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like
elsewhere
> > and are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
> > constructive manner.
> >
> > Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
> > claims from the Immigration Industry.
>
> Maybe you should look at the stats from Immigration Canada. According to
those
> stats the total refugees from 1987 to 1998 is 2,519,241.
And how many of these people have actual jobs? How many are elderly and live
on CPP?
The highest year for
> immigrants was in 1993-256,757 immigrants were admitted to Canada.
>
> >
> >
> > The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
> > immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
> > recent years.
>
> The information is based in 1998 and can be found here-
>
> http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/english/pdffiles/pub/facts98e.pdf
>
> >
> >
> > And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
>
> What do you mean by this???
>
> >
> > Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
> >
> > Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
>
> Usually the government that they are being dictated by puts their country
in a
> mess. Are you responsible for the GST, or is the Brian
So why can't they do something about it? Why is it any of our business how
they run their country?
Mulroney govt
> responsible for the GST? How can you blame immigrants for their country's
> economic plights?
I blame them for running away instead of working to make it a better place.
> >
> > Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
> > only hire "their own".
> >
> > Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
> > sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
> > who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
> >
> > And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
> > ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
> > get any service.
>
> Everytime in the past when there was a numerous number of immigrants
coming from
> a specific country (ie Ukraine, Germany), there have always been the
practice of
> people that set up shops and business that hire their own.
With their own money I might add. In Canada we help them..
Any person that has
> been of the Jewish faith has also been accused of this. Why is there
always the
> hysteria, that a particular culture or language will take over our own.
How many Asians and Orientals are in the world compared to white people?
What exactly is happening in Quebec?
> According to Immigration Canada, the largest number of immigrants came to
Canada
> in 1913, there was 400,870. The 3 previous years were a buildup to this
number.
> These immigrants were mainly from the Ukraine, and I don't here too many
people
> speaking Ukrainian on the streets.
Because they canadianized themselves which many of those coming over today
refuse to do. Learn english...not the elderly.
>
> >
> > You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
>
> Gee, isn't that what the British did when they landed here???
Thats what it says in the history books?
Irina
>
>
Jennifer
> Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:37AFB50A...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca...
>
> > I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like it
> then
> > move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new
> country,
> > to try to better their own lives.
>
> Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
Well, maybe they just get tired of outrunning tanks, ducking bullets, being held
hostage in their own country. You know the old saying, "you can't fight City
Hall".
> > How is it a problem that someone coming from a Third World is a problem?
>
> How much more of your paycheck can you afford to give away to support
> someone else instead of your own children and family? Where do you suppose
> the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for the
> next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words "welfare"
> for them nothing for our own.
This is a *really* bad example. Canada as a nation was bombing the area, these
refugees were fleeing terrorists. If we can afford to drop the bombs, fire the
bullets, we should take responsibility for our actions (isn't this also what you
are saying that parents should teach their children-take responsibility for
their actions?)
>
> > Maybe you should look at the stats from Immigration Canada. According to
> those stats the total refugees from 1987 to 1998 is 2,519,241.
>
> And how many of these people have actual jobs? How many are elderly and live
> on CPP?
Well Irina, according to your paraniod thoughts, all these immigrants have high
paying govt jobs!! Take a look at the link I provided, there are stats for that
in there.
>
>
>
> > The information is based in 1998 and can be found here-
> >
> > http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/english/pdffiles/pub/facts98e.pdf
>
> > Usually the government that they are being dictated by puts their country
> in a
> > mess. Are you responsible for the GST, or is the Brian
>
> So why can't they do something about it? Why is it any of our business how
> they run their country?
Ask Milosovic, I am sure he was wondering the same thing when NATO was doing
their fly-bys in his country.
>
>
> Mulroney govt
> > responsible for the GST? How can you blame immigrants for their country's
> > economic plights?
>
> I blame them for running away instead of working to make it a better place.
Well sometimes a country's tyranny is stronger than the common citizen's will.
Why did your Mommy and Daddy run from Poland Irina?? Were potatoes hard to come
by? Did they get tired of the scenery? Did it not offer prayer in school? Do
you blame your Ma & Pa for not facing their govt's injustice to their people?
Were they scared and wanted a better life? Sheesh, think about it.
>
> > Everytime in the past when there was a numerous number of immigrants
> coming from
> > a specific country (ie Ukraine, Germany), there have always been the
> practice of
> > people that set up shops and business that hire their own.
>
> With their own money I might add. In Canada we help them.
Irina, if you a small business starting up, you can too get the govt to help
you. Are you jealous because someone, who might happen to be an immigrant, gets
a successful business going? I would rather help someone out at the start,
rather than keep carrying them for the rest of their life. You know the old
moral tale about giving someone a fish, or teaching them to fish.
>
>
> Any person that has
> > been of the Jewish faith has also been accused of this. Why is there
> always the
> > hysteria, that a particular culture or language will take over our own.
>
> How many Asians and Orientals are in the world compared to white people?
> What exactly is happening in Quebec?
To mention Quebec at this point is very funny. You and others afraid of
immigration, language, etc is what the Parti Quebecois was bitching about in the
last referendum. Imagine the people of Quebec and the people of Alberta whining
about the same thing.
Does it really matter how many Asians, Orientals are in the world compared to
white people? What kind of a question is that? Your pointy hat is very
becoming, go sit in the corner with the other dunces.
>
>
> > According to Immigration Canada, the largest number of immigrants came to
> Canada
> > in 1913, there was 400,870. The 3 previous years were a buildup to this
> number.
> > These immigrants were mainly from the Ukraine, and I don't here too many
> people
> > speaking Ukrainian on the streets.
>
> Because they canadianized themselves which many of those coming over today
> refuse to do. Learn english...not the elderly.
Think about what the population was back then. The population of Canada
increased 34% due to the massive immigration during this time. (1901-1911)
Every immigrant that I have met in the past years, who have children, learn the
English language. The initial immigrant, usually has a longer time learning,
but their children do know the English language and usually the language of
their ethnic parents. Tell me Irina, did your parents know English when they
came here, did you learn English, how much Polish do your children speak?
Here is a good education link about immigration-
http://www.ucalgary.ca/HIST/tutor/canada1891/6frame.html
>
> > > You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
> >
> > Gee, isn't that what the British did when they landed here???
>
> Thats what it says in the history books?
Look here and learn your history again. Did you know that immigrants have to
pass a history and civics test?
http://www.infocan.gc.ca/facts/history-e.html
Sean MacUisdin
>
> > I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like it
> then
> > move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new
> country,
> > to try to better their own lives.
>
> Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
When will you be returning to your ancestral country?
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>
>You may be a citizen of Canada but you are not a Canadian.
And that makes perfect sence. Sheesh.
nev...@*anti-klik*ecn.ab.ca
>Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the government policy say that you only
>have to be a canadian citizen to run for office? If this is the case then
>when our government is made up of all one group (asian, chinese, french
>whatever) who do you think they are going to support and who they are going
>to let in? Who will protect canadians then?
Rank with ignorance.
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
: <sh...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37ba1...@ecn.ab.ca...
: >
: >
You don't REALLY want to know that answer!!! <vbg> Stick them on a plane
to their former country. Plane lands. Person is escorted OFF the plane.
Plane takes off. Customs officials refuse person entry. TOO LATE..plane
has gone. They HAVE the problem now, NOT Canada. Canada, then, would NOT
allow people off plane at Canadian airports, until PRE-cleared while still
on the plane. Exceptions would be granted to airlines who PRECLEARED
passengers.
--
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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Irina (iri...@home.com) wrote:
: <sh...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:37afb...@ecn.ab.ca...
: > JW (true...@canoemail.com) wrote:
: > The "OLD" citizens don't all vote LIBERAL, while most of the new one's do.
: > THAT, and only that, is the reason that the Cretin government is so gaga
: > with immigration. Look at those Chinese "refugees" recently captured off
: > the coast of Vancouver Island. Instead of being immediately deported the
: > Hell back to China, most of them were turned loose, simply having to
: > promise to report to immigration officials within 28 days. Yeah, right. If
: > you think ANY of them will report in, well I have some beach front land
: > in Florida to sell you. Genuine refugee are immigrants fleeing for their
: > lives. These people do NOT meet this important criterion.
: Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the government policy say that you only
: have to be a canadian citizen to run for office? If this is the case then
: when our government is made up of all one group (asian, chinese, french
: whatever) who do you think they are going to support and who they are going
: to let in? Who will protect canadians then?
My friends Smith, Wesson and Remington??
: Irina
: >
: > : > > >
: > : > >
: > : > > And what the heck is wrong with someone coming up with a site like
: that,
: > : > > Jennifer? You've mentioned that people should be tolerant of other
: > : people's
: > : > > opinions. The site in question does a good job of stating facts and
: > : concerns.
: > : > > And I quite frankly agree with it.
: > : >
: > : > What bugs me about the site was that this-
: > : >
: > : > Please visit our brief site which describes our feelings
: > : > about Canada's Immigration System.
: > : >
: > : > Citizens Concerned About Continued Mass Third
: > : > World Immigration To Canada
: > : >
: > : > The above is directed towards "Third World Immigration". Ask yourself,
: > : which
: > : > countries are classified as "third world"? Think about it for a
: moment.
: > : Why not
: > : > address immigrants from "first world" or "second world"? Why are just
: > : "third
: > : > world immigrants" being the target of contention in the web site?
: >
: >
: > : Because Jennifer there is not Mass First World Immigration problem in
: > : Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
: > : problem in Canada.
: >
: >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > "New citizens"? Well, I'm less than 30 years old, so you could say I
: > : will be
: > : > > part of the future. Why should Canada take on the world?
: > : >
: > : > The "new citizens" I was referring to are the ones who will immigrate
: here
: > : and
: > : > become Canadians. They are usually the most productive citizens, they
: are
: > : > usually the most grateful citizens. They know what life is like
: elsewhere
: > : and
: > : > are glad to be here and contribute to Canada in a productive or
: > : constructive
: > : > manner.
: >
: >
: > : Perhaps you should review recent scholarly studies which refute these
: > : claims from the Immigration Industry.
: >
: > : The information you are using was based on post-war/pre 1980's
: > : immigration streams and not on what has been going on in
: > : recent years.
: >
: > : And why is it exactly "they know what life is like elsewhere" ?
: >
: > : Why are those countries they come from such a mess ?
: >
: > : Perhaps it has something to do with the people who live there.
: >
: >
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > I'll be coming up with some good facts and figures today or
: tommorrow
: > : that I
: > : > > have read about immigration.
: > : > >
: > : >
: > : > Instead of finding facts and figures about immigration, go find some
: urls
: > : that
: > : > tell you how to write a resume and how to get that elusive job that
: you
: > : are
: > : > finding so hard to find. There could be an immigrant or a new
: Canadian
: > : getting
: > : > that job right now whilst your finding your facts and figures.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: > : Just don't apply to a "new canadian" business in Vancouver, they
: > : only hire "their own".
: >
: > : Just don't apply to many mainstream firms in Vancouver for
: > : sales and marketing positions, they are only seeking those
: > : who are "bilingual" ( i.e. speak Mandarin or Cantonese).
: >
: > : And don't bother visiting any of these new ethnic shopping
: > : ghettoes in Vancouver if you are "Canadian" you won't
: > : get any service.
: >
: > : You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
: >
: >
: > : Regards,
: >
: > : JW
: >
: > : Please visit our brief web site which discusses our feelings
: > : on Canada's Immigration System.
: >
: > : Citizens Opposed to Continued Mass Third World Immigration
: > : To Canada
: >
: > : Http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/savecanada/index.html
: >
: >
: > --
: >
: >
--
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Jennifer (jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca) wrote:
: Irina wrote:
: > Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
: > news:37AFB50A...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca...
: >
: > > I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like it
: > then
: > > move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new
: > country,
: > > to try to better their own lives.
: >
: > Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
: Well, maybe they just get tired of outrunning tanks, ducking bullets, being held
: hostage in their own country. You know the old saying, "you can't fight City
: Hall".
: > > How is it a problem that someone coming from a Third World is a problem?
: >
: > How much more of your paycheck can you afford to give away to support
: > someone else instead of your own children and family? Where do you suppose
: > the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for the
: > next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words "welfare"
: > for them nothing for our own.
: This is a *really* bad example. Canada as a nation was bombing the area, these
: refugees were fleeing terrorists. If we can afford to drop the bombs, fire the
: bullets, we should take responsibility for our actions (isn't this also what you
: are saying that parents should teach their children-take responsibility for
: their actions?)
Bullshit. The serbs under Slob MIlosevic brought the bombing onto
themselves. Blame them. We are NOT responsible for the repercussions of
Serbian terrorism. Stop your bloody wussy liberal uneducated politically
naive ramblings.
: >
: > > Maybe you should look at the stats from Immigration Canada. According to
: rather than keep carrying them for the rest of their life. You know the old
: http://www.ucalgary.ca/HIST/tutor/canada1891/6frame.html
: >
: > > > You're not immigrating, your colonizing.
: > >
: > > Gee, isn't that what the British did when they landed here???
: >
: > Thats what it says in the history books?
: Look here and learn your history again. Did you know that immigrants have to
: pass a history and civics test?
: http://www.infocan.gc.ca/facts/history-e.html
--
Howie
sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote in message <37bba...@ecn.ab.ca>...
>Irina (iri...@home.com) wrote:
>
[snip]
>
>: Actually Sharx there are hundreds of people who have committed a
crime in
>: Canada and are still either waiting to be sent back or some of their
>: countries do not even want them back so what you would do with them?
>: >
>: >
>
>You don't REALLY want to know that answer!!! <vbg> Stick them on a
plane
>to their former country. Plane lands. Person is escorted OFF the plane.
>Plane takes off. Customs officials refuse person entry. TOO LATE..plane
>has gone. They HAVE the problem now, NOT Canada. Canada, then, would
NOT
>allow people off plane at Canadian airports, until PRE-cleared while
still
>on the plane. Exceptions would be granted to airlines who PRECLEARED
>passengers.
>
Never heard of a parachute, eh?
Howie
Irina wrote in message ...
>
>Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:37AFB50A...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca...
>
>> I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like
it
>then
>> move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a
new
>country,
>> to try to better their own lives.
>
>Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
>
>> > Canada, there is however a very real Mass Third World Immigration
>> > problem in Canada.
>>
problem?
>
>
>How much more of your paycheck can you afford to give away to support
>someone else instead of your own children and family? Where do you
suppose
>the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for
the
>next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words
"welfare"
>for them nothing for our own.
>
Irina, you used these words to attack Michael in another thread.
"And again you are only thinking of yourself. How selfish you sound."
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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Howie (no.e...@please.com) wrote:
: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote in message <37bba...@ecn.ab.ca>...
Improperly packed? Now, *there's* an idea!
--
dm
Where do you suppose
>> the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for the
>> next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words
"welfare"
>> for them nothing for our own.
>
>This is a *really* bad example. Canada as a nation was bombing the area,
these
>refugees were fleeing terrorists. If we can afford to drop the bombs, fire
the
>bullets, we should take responsibility for our actions (isn't this also
what you
>are saying that parents should teach their children-take responsibility for
>their actions?)
Bad example.
If I am in my backyard, and I see my neighbor beating the living shit out of
his wife, I am going to go over there and break his legs.
It doesn't mean that SHE gets to move in with me, though.
dm
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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dm (dma...@telusplanet.net) wrote:
: Jennifer wrote in message <37BB864B...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>...
: Bad example.
: dm
Mrs. dm would insist that she be "shared", eh? <just joking, dm>
--
nev...@*no-no-spamo*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>
>Bad example.
>
>If I am in my backyard, and I see my neighbor beating the living shit out of
>his wife, I am going to go over there and break his legs.
>
>It doesn't mean that SHE gets to move in with me, though.
It's more like you see your neighbour beating the shit out of his wife
so you trash their house. The perpetrator and the victim no longer
a suitable home to live in.
lu...@ecn.ab.ca
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nevins@*no-no-spamo*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 03:30:16 GMT, "dm" <dma...@telusplanet.net>
: wrote:
--
No, no, Nevin. It's more like you see your neighbour beating another
neigbour, so you gather all the weapons you have in your house, quickly go
to a town nearby where the perpetrator's relatives live, and throw bombs
and shoot at them from a safe distance.
L.R.
dm
>Organization: Edmonton Community Network
>Distribution:
>
>: Jennifer wrote in message <37BB864B...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca>...
>: Where do you suppose
>: >> the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for
the
>: >> next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words
>: "welfare"
>: >> for them nothing for our own.
>: >
>: >This is a *really* bad example. Canada as a nation was bombing the
area,
>: these
>: >refugees were fleeing terrorists. If we can afford to drop the bombs,
fire
>: the
>: >bullets, we should take responsibility for our actions (isn't this also
>: what you
>: >are saying that parents should teach their children-take responsibility
for
>: >their actions?)
>
>
>: If I am in my backyard, and I see my neighbor beating the living shit out
of
>: his wife, I am going to go over there and break his legs.
>
>: It doesn't mean that SHE gets to move in with me, though.
>
>
>Mrs. dm would insist that she be "shared", eh? <just joking, dm>
LOL
The primo fantasy of my younger years.
Ah well. Old age has SOME benefits, I suppose.
The spirit is willing, and all that...
dm
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
> LOL
>
>The primo fantasy of my younger years.
>
Two cows together.
dm
<37c48cfc...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
<sigh>
Hello Nevins.
I see you found a way to beat my killfile.
No doubt you will deny it, but I think you REALLY enjoy bantering with me.
:-)
dm
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>
>I see you found a way to beat my killfile.
If you want to successfully killfile someone you don't announce it to
the world.
>No doubt you will deny it, but I think you REALLY enjoy bantering with me.
>
Yeah, it's real fun talking to a real honest to goodness Albertan
christian cowboy.
dm
<37c21dc0...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
Thanks, Nevins !
It's good to talk to a .... a.... well, whatever it is that you are.
Say, we're having a get-together next Sunday. We're going to have a
little outdoor Church service, followed by a BBQ.
Later on in the day, while the ladies can some vegetables, the boys are
gonna go out to the corral where we'll enjoy a little firewater, and watch
Jimmy Sloat break a riding horse.
Care to join us?
Or would you prefer to sit home and stew over how miserable your unwholesome
little existence is?
dm
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>
>Thanks, Nevins !
>
>It's good to talk to a .... a.... well, whatever it is that you are.
>
>Say, we're having a get-together next Sunday. We're going to have a
>little outdoor Church service, followed by a BBQ.
Sounds dreadful.
>Later on in the day, while the ladies can some vegetables, the boys are
>gonna go out to the corral where we'll enjoy a little firewater, and watch
>Jimmy Sloat break a riding horse.
Your kidding right?
>Care to join us?
>
>Or would you prefer to sit home and stew over how miserable your unwholesome
>little existence is?
I would guess that I would end up tar and feathered or possibly meet
with a Bar-T branding iron. Your form of tolerance seems to resentful
and spiteful. I'll pass but thanx anyways.
dm
<37c14b22...@news.compusmart.ab.ca>...
I invite you to a blissful country outing, and you call me resentful and
spiteful?
Nevins, when is the last time you had sex ? <With another person present, I
mean>
You seem to be lacking that little something that we call "humanity".
This NG is your ONLY form of uninhibited expression, isn't it. You might
do well to get out and meet some people.
There I go being resentful and spiteful again.
:-)
dm
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
> I invite you to a blissful country outing, and you call me resentful and
>spiteful?
>
>Nevins, when is the last time you had sex ? <With another person present, I
>mean>
Actually about four times times this week.
>You seem to be lacking that little something that we call "humanity".
A grossly incorrect assumption.
>This NG is your ONLY form of uninhibited expression, isn't it. You might
>do well to get out and meet some people.
If that was a question then no. And a prayer meetin' isn't exactly
my kind of forum for meeting people.
>There I go being resentful and spiteful again.
>
Must be force of habit.
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
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n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:34:31 GMT, "dm" <dma...@telusplanet.net>
: wrote:
: > I invite you to a blissful country outing, and you call me resentful and
: >spiteful?
: >
: >Nevins, when is the last time you had sex ? <With another person present, I
: >mean>
: Actually about four times times this week.
Did that consist of FOUR separate visits to the bath house or just
once, when you had your butt reamed out FOUR times?
: >You seem to be lacking that little something that we call "humanity".
: A grossly incorrect assumption.
: >This NG is your ONLY form of uninhibited expression, isn't it. You might
: >do well to get out and meet some people.
: If that was a question then no. And a prayer meetin' isn't exactly
: my kind of forum for meeting people.
: >There I go being resentful and spiteful again.
: >
: Must be force of habit.
--
Irina
> Irina wrote:
>
> > Jennifer <jenn...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
> > news:37AFB50A...@no-spam.compusmart.ab.ca...
> >
> > > I am not bitching about who will be my new neighbour. You don't like
it
> > then
> > > move somewhere else. That is essentially why immigrants move to a new
> > country,
> > > to try to better their own lives.
> >
> > Instead of trying to make things better in their own homeland.
>
> Well, maybe they just get tired of outrunning tanks, ducking bullets,
being held
> hostage in their own country. You know the old saying, "you can't fight
City
> Hall".
And I am tired of paying for someone else instead of for my own family.
>
> > > How is it a problem that someone coming from a Third World is a
problem?
> >
> > How much more of your paycheck can you afford to give away to support
> > someone else instead of your own children and family? Where do you
suppose
> > the money comes from? The Kosovonians will be living on our money for
the
> > next 2 years because the government says they can. In other words
"welfare"
> > for them nothing for our own.
>
> This is a *really* bad example. Canada as a nation was bombing the area,
these
> refugees were fleeing terrorists. If we can afford to drop the bombs,
fire the
> bullets, we should take responsibility for our actions (isn't this also
what you
> are saying that parents should teach their children-take responsibility
for
> their actions?)
Jenn was living the way they were in fear better than what we were able to
offer them? Do you not believe that had canada not stepped in they all would
have eventually been killed? And now that things are better some of them are
returning to their homeland while others will continue to live here on my
tax money (and yours and all other "canadians")
>
> >
> > > Maybe you should look at the stats from Immigration Canada. According
to
> > those stats the total refugees from 1987 to 1998 is 2,519,241.
> >
> > And how many of these people have actual jobs? How many are elderly and
live
> > on CPP?
>
> Well Irina, according to your paraniod thoughts, all these immigrants have
high
> paying govt jobs!! Take a look at the link I provided, there are stats for
that
> in there.
Why do you say they are paranoid thoughts when you have no idea who actually
works in government jobs? Are you employed by the federal government? Have
you had any experience in the public sector? I have and I also see what is
going on around me while others don't give a damn as long as it doesn't
affect them. Not yet anyway but wait eventually someone will be running our
government and it may not be a "canadian" and how our laws and rights will
change then. As for believing what your links say personally, I don't
believe any of the governments stats. Look at what is happening with the
soldiers that had their medical records altered. Doesn't that show you
something?
Irina
>
>
Irina
dm <dma...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:RZWv3.6683$k3.5...@news1.telusplanet.net...> >On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:21:40 GMT, "dm" <dma...@telusplanet.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>I see you found a way to beat my killfile.
> >
> >If you want to successfully killfile someone you don't announce it to
> >the world.
> >
> >>No doubt you will deny it, but I think you REALLY enjoy bantering with
me.
> >>
> >
> >Yeah, it's real fun talking to a real honest to goodness Albertan
> >christian cowboy.
>
>
> It's good to talk to a .... a.... well, whatever it is that you are.
>
> Say, we're having a get-together next Sunday. We're going to have a
> little outdoor Church service, followed by a BBQ.
>
> gonna go out to the corral where we'll enjoy a little firewater, and watch
> Jimmy Sloat break a riding horse.
>
>
> Or would you prefer to sit home and stew over how miserable your
unwholesome
> little existence is?
Would his existence have been any better had he not chosen to come to Canada
for a better life?
Irina
>
> dm
>
>
>
>
Irina
<n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37c14b22...@news.compusmart.ab.ca...
> >
> >It's good to talk to a .... a.... well, whatever it is that you are.
> >
> >Say, we're having a get-together next Sunday. We're going to have a
> >little outdoor Church service, followed by a BBQ.
>
>
> >Later on in the day, while the ladies can some vegetables, the boys are
> >gonna go out to the corral where we'll enjoy a little firewater, and
watch
> >Jimmy Sloat break a riding horse.
>
>
> >Care to join us?
> >
> >Or would you prefer to sit home and stew over how miserable your
unwholesome
> >little existence is?
>
> with a Bar-T branding iron. Your form of tolerance seems to resentful
> and spiteful. I'll pass but thanx anyways.
Awww he didn't want to have his afro straightened.
Irina
>
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
>And I am tired of paying for someone else instead of for my own family.
As someone was tired of paying for your parents long long ago.
But of course back then no one thought constantly in terms of me me
me.
>Jenn was living the way they were in fear better than what we were able to
>offer them? Do you not believe that had canada not stepped in they all would
>have eventually been killed? And now that things are better some of them are
>returning to their homeland while others will continue to live here on my
>tax money (and yours and all other "canadians")
Did you not say once that your parents were refugees from WWII?
Bucky
the appropriate age) are set to receive CPP, paid for in advance only in
small measure by the recipients. Instead, it's gonna be paid for by all us
young working people who, due to Canada's huge proportion of aging Boomers,
have essentially no prayer of ever collecting what we put in, regardless of
whether we're immigrants or born Canadians.
So. According to your view, do Canadians entitled to get CPP turn it down
(or ask that it be reduced), knowing that they did not pay enough to cover
its cost, or do they take the same kind of handouts you note that immigrants
get (disguised as CPP), and continue bitching about immigration?
I'd sure hate to find out you plan on having the younger generation support
YOU in your old age. It'd take all the wind out of the sails of your
"immigrants get too many handouts" yammering.
Irina <iri...@home.com> wrote in message
news:9jJw3.32461$ux1.3...@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> Just because you came here and lived off of the people of canada until
you
> could get on your feet which you hate does not mean that you can continue
to
> give incorrect information. My parents came over after the war. My mother
> was sponsored over and had to work for this individual for 5 years before
> she was free unlike you who probably got everything free for the first 2
> years. And, I might add, she did not get free health care, free medical
> anything, free food or anything else. Get it she had to work, work, work
> unlike you.
Deacon
<iri...@home.com> wrote:
>> I would guess that I would end up tar and feathered or possibly meet
>> with a Bar-T branding iron. Your form of tolerance seems to resentful
>> and spiteful. I'll pass but thanx anyways.
>
> Awww he didn't want to have his afro straightened.
Are you a racist, Irina?
Irina
<n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37c3325c...@news.compusmart.ab.ca...
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:15:48 GMT, "Irina" <iri...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> >And I am tired of paying for someone else instead of for my own family.
>
> As someone was tired of paying for your parents long long ago.
> But of course back then no one thought constantly in terms of me me
> me.
Just because you came here and lived off of the people of canada until you
could get on your feet which you hate does not mean that you can continue to
give incorrect information. My parents came over after the war. My mother
was sponsored over and had to work for this individual for 5 years before
she was free unlike you who probably got everything free for the first 2
years. And, I might add, she did not get free health care, free medical
anything, free food or anything else. Get it she had to work, work, work
unlike you.
>
>
> >Jenn was living the way they were in fear better than what we were able
to
> >offer them? Do you not believe that had canada not stepped in they all
would
> >have eventually been killed? And now that things are better some of them
are
> >returning to their homeland while others will continue to live here on my
> >tax money (and yours and all other "canadians")
>
> Did you not say once that your parents were refugees from WWII?
No I never said that and no they weren't. Why is it that you are always
wrong and yet have so much to say?
Irina
>
>
>
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
>Just because you came here and lived off of the people of canada until you
>could get on your feet which you hate does not mean that you can continue to
>give incorrect information. My parents came over after the war. My mother
>was sponsored over and had to work for this individual for 5 years before
>she was free unlike you who probably got everything free for the first 2
>years. And, I might add, she did not get free health care, free medical
>anything, free food or anything else. Get it she had to work, work, work
>unlike you.
Interesting conjecture. Yeah, I admit it, I was a leech when I
immigrated to Canada. But it was hard to find work other than
my paper route when I was twelve.
>No I never said that and no they weren't. Why is it that you are always
>wrong and yet have so much to say?
I was wrong because I don't remember exactly when you said you and
your parents arrived. But after the war was close. What year did they
arrive? Did they emigrate as a direct result of the war?
Howie
Michael Voytinsky
"Irina" <iri...@home.com> wrote:
> The only true canadians are those that are born here. End of story.
This is obviously incorrect. Are there any Canadian laws that
distinguish between those who were born Canadian citizens, and those
who acquired Canadian citizenship? (hint: the answer is no.)
Of course, does this make the natives "truer canadians"?
--
Michael Voytinsky
Ottawa Ontario Canada
http://www.igs.net/~michaelv
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
wrote:
>Are you a racist, Irina?
This was evident when she figured she didn't get her job at the
university. All immigrants were to blame after that (even though
most ethnic chinese in Edmonton have been here since the
nineteenth century).
Irina
Bucky <buck...@peristalsis.bc.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:7pvtmj$ai7$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca...
> Yeah, and now, funniest of all, your parents (or you, depending on who's
of
> the appropriate age) are set to receive CPP, paid for in advance only in
> small measure by the recipients. Instead, it's gonna be paid
There are people who have paid into CPP for 25 years and are entitled to it
but what about elderly immigrants? Do they not get CPP? Who paid for it?
for by all us
> young working people who, due to Canada's huge proportion of aging
Boomers,
And elderly immigrants who are now canadian citizens.
> have essentially no prayer of ever collecting what we put in, regardless
of
> whether we're immigrants or born Canadians.
Government mismanagement....sue them...
>
> So. According to your view, do Canadians entitled to get CPP turn it down
> (or ask that it be reduced), knowing that they did not pay enough to cover
> its cost, or do they take the same kind of handouts you note that
immigrants
> get (disguised as CPP), and continue bitching about immigration?
When are you going to learn to read. I did not say that I was against
immigration I said I was against giving them freebies ie, medical, welfare
etc. Years ago people didn't have this luxury and they made it so can those
who come here today. Get it?
> I'd sure hate to find out you plan on having the younger generation
support
> YOU in your old age. It'd take all the wind out of the sails of your
> "immigrants get too many handouts" yammering.
Actually Bucky ole boy, I, unlike many of the younger generation, have
already put aside money for my retirement. I have saved and saved and
invested for years. What is really sad about this whole thing is that I am
going to be penalized for saving instead of spending it all and having one
hell of a good time like you when I am old enough to collect old age
pension. Hmmm, really now that I think about it what is the sense of saving
when the government will look after you better when you get old and have no
money. Gee, now what was I thinking about?
Irina
>
Irina
<n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:37c37cb5...@news.compusmart.ab.ca...
> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:21:41 GMT, "Irina" <iri...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Just because you came here and lived off of the people of canada until
you
> >could get on your feet which you hate does not mean that you can continue
to
> >give incorrect information. My parents came over after the war. My mother
> >was sponsored over and had to work for this individual for 5 years before
> >she was free unlike you who probably got everything free for the first 2
> >years. And, I might add, she did not get free health care, free medical
> >anything, free food or anything else. Get it she had to work, work, work
> >unlike you.
>
> Interesting conjecture. Yeah, I admit it, I was a leech when I
> immigrated to Canada. But it was hard to find work other than
> my paper route when I was twelve.
And yet you got one didn't you instead of having to work the streets.
>
> >No I never said that and no they weren't. Why is it that you are always
> >wrong and yet have so much to say?
>
> I was wrong because I don't remember exactly when you said you and
> your parents arrived. But after the war was close. What year did they
> arrive? Did they emigrate as a direct result of the war?
My father 1949 my mother 1950. I don't think it was so much the direct
result of the war as you think it might be. I think the reason that they
came to canada was to forget the horrors that they had lived and seen. My
father was a commando under Lord Mountbatten and served during many, many
campaigns. He saw lots and lots of death, children, women and his own
compatriots. He was terribly close to getting caught a number of times but
just managed to get away. When the brits came over they were given prime
farm land and mainly settled in Stettler. My father, who was not a brit by
birth, was given nothing.
My mother was taken from her family at 14 years of age by who she thinks
were the french (she speaks german, russian, slavik languages, etc. but no
french and she said it was a language she did not understand) and taken to a
munitions factory where she was forced to put black powder into bullets. She
became very, very sick and was sent to a hospital until she was better then
she was forced to become a launderess. Her so called "employer" said he
would put away the money that he owed her for her work into a safe place and
he would give it to her when she was able to return to school. She never saw
a penny of it. Probably sitting in some Swedish bank under her former
employers name.
Irina
>
Irina
Deacon <deaco...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:37c2...@skylite.connect.ab.ca...
> In article <iPmw3.29901$ux1.2...@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>, "Irina"
> <iri...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> I would guess that I would end up tar and feathered or possibly meet
> >> with a Bar-T branding iron. Your form of tolerance seems to resentful
> >> and spiteful. I'll pass but thanx anyways.
> >
> > Awww he didn't want to have his afro straightened.
>
I wouldn't exactly say that I am a racist but I do believe in people looking
out for themselves. Do you like it when you work 8 hours a day, 5-7 days a
week, have 2 weeks holiday while an immigrant can come over and live off the
money that you have slaved so hard to earn? Awww, but then you may have been
an immigrant once so I guess you would label me racist. Guess what I have
received free from the canadian government and I was born here. Nothing,
absolutely nothing financially (read handouts).
Do you think it is fair to the canadian people that the people from Kosovo
will be able to live in canada without having to work or paying for medical
for the next 2 years? Do you honestly think that they could not find a job
here in the next week or so? Where do you suppose all the money is coming
from seeing that we just went through mass job cuts, pay cuts etc. because
we were so much in debt?
Irina
Irina
Howie <no.e...@please.com> wrote in message
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> ><iri...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> I would guess that I would end up tar and feathered or possibly meet
> >>> with a Bar-T branding iron. Your form of tolerance seems to
> resentful
> >>> and spiteful. I'll pass but thanx anyways.
> >>
> >> Awww he didn't want to have his afro straightened.
> >
> >Are you a racist, Irina?
>
Was he talking to you?
Irina
>
>
Irina
<n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
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>
> university. All immigrants were to blame after that (even though
> most ethnic chinese in Edmonton have been here since the
> nineteenth century).
This comment does not even deserve a reply considering you never answered
the questions that were posed. You are a sick puppy Nevin's and it is time
for your 2,000 hump check up.
>
sh...@ecn.ab.ca
Distribution:
n.e.v.i.n.s@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:49:41 -0600, "Deacon" <deaco...@my-deja.com>
: wrote:
: >Are you a racist, Irina?
: This was evident when she figured she didn't get her job at the
: university. All immigrants were to blame after that (even though
: most ethnic chinese in Edmonton have been here since the
: nineteenth century).
Most ethnic Chinese who came here in the 19th century are long since dead,
having rejoined their ancestors.
--
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
>
>This comment does not even deserve a reply considering you never answered
>the questions that were posed. You are a sick puppy Nevin's and it is time
>for your 2,000 hump check up.
What questions?
n.e.v...@*no-spam*ecn.ab.ca
>
>Most ethnic Chinese who came here in the 19th century are long since dead,
>having rejoined their ancestors.
Yeah yeah, you know what I meant.
Bucky
> There are people who have paid into CPP for 25 years and are entitled to
it
>
"Entitled" to FAR more than they ever paid. Welfare. Charity.
> but what about elderly immigrants? Do they not get CPP? Who paid for it?
I paid for it, and I do pay for it, just like I'm paying for EVERYONE who
collects it. I wish them well, immigrants and all, especially if it bothers
someone like you.
The sad thing is that by reading this post, most people would think I don't
want to support CPP, when in fact I have little objection to doing so.
However, you attempt to justify your anti-immigrant bent with spurious
arguments about "handouts" and so on. Your argument rings hollow, and I
raise the example of CPP to remind you that a whole generation of born
Canadians is effectively going to be depending on the good will of the
younger generation.
>
> Actually Bucky ole boy, I, unlike many of the younger generation, have
> already put aside money for my retirement. I have saved and saved and
> invested for years.
I applaud your foresight. Anything in Asia?
> What is really sad about this whole thing is that I am
> going to be penalized for saving
Penalized how, exactly? By not having access to CPP that won't be there
anyway? By having something in the bank so you don't have to work until
you're old and bitter? Make that "until you're old".
> instead of spending it all and having one
> hell of a good time like you
Like me? Detail my spending and saving habits so that you can justify your
remark, please. You apparently know something about them that I don't.
> when I am old enough to collect old age
> pension. Hmmm, really now that I think about it what is the sense of
saving
> when the government will look after you better when you get old and have
no
> money.
The government will look after no one when I'm that old, baby. Let's dispel
those rumors right now. Despite the fact that I've paid CPP since I was old
enough to hold a job, I have no chance of ever seeing any benefit from it.
It's fine, I guess, and one of the prices I am resigned to pay for living in
a socialist state.
> Gee, now what was I thinking about?
Something hateful, most likely. Think hard. You'll regain that train of
thought in no time.
ka...@ecn.ab.ca
: And I am tired of paying for someone else instead of for my own family.
Well, I'm tired of hearing the whines of the greedy.
But I live with it...
--
Glenn.
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This is not the reality you're looking for.