CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
cud...@salmahayeksknockers.edu
> CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of
> Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are allowed
> to issue "Canadian receipts"!!
Of course you wouldn't. It states pretty clearly on Nizkor's funding page
that the donations are made to the Bnai Brith, who I imagine would issue
the actual receipt, and then funnelled to Nizkor.
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The Informer
cud...@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
>In can.general Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
>> CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of
>> Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are allowed
>> to issue "Canadian receipts"!!
:
>Of course you wouldn't. It states pretty clearly on Nizkor's funding page
>that the donations are made to the Bnai Brith, who I imagine would issue
>the actual receipt, and then funnelled to Nizkor.
Clearly then B'nai Brith is a money launderer for Ken McVay who would not
otherwise be eligible for exempt funding under current CCRA rules. Does this or
does this not suggest tax impropriety seeing how McVay openly asks for "exempt
donations" from his web site operated solely by him which also funds and
endowment fund whose sole recipient appears to be McVay himself?
Does this not strongly resemble this prosecuted tax scam?
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to their
wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
Huge tax scam exposed
Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
Hundreds of people and businesses in Montreal's Jewish community are to face
criminal charges or be required to pay tens of millions of dollars in evaded
taxes as a result of a guilty plea yesterday in a Saint-Jerome court. The guilty
plea by a religious group connected to the Hasidic community in suburban
Boisbriand capped a two-year investigation of what federal tax auditors say is
the largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious organization in Quebec.
The religious group, which is known as Construit Toujours Avec Bonte and has
links to the Montreal Rabbinical College, pleaded guilty to issuing tax receipts
for charitable donations that overstated the amount of the donation.
A senior Montreal construction executive blew the whistle on the scam when he
approached Revenue Canada, now part of the Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency,
with taped information in 1997. The resulting investigation saw federal tax
sleuths seize about $60 million in phony receipts from individuals and
businesses in the Jewish community, court documents say.
Joseph Gutstadt, president of Magil Construction International, the
whistle-blower who exposed the fraud, said in a telephone interview last night
from Israel: "I'm happy that, at the end of the day, justice has prevailed."
But Gutstadt said he was disappointed that Construit Toujours was fined only
$400,000, and that none of the administrators of the organization or the
rabbinical college were charged.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
In pursuit of donors linked to tax evasion Hundreds in Jewish community under
scrutiny by federal officials. Federal tax investigators insisted yesterday that
they will continue an investigation involving hundreds of people and businesses
in the Jewish community suspected of participating in a charitable-donation tax
fraud. The case involves about $60 million in claimed donations, federal tax
officials said, making it Quebec's largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious
organization.
On Wednesday, a religious group connected to the Hasidic community of Tash, in
suburban Boisbriand, pleaded guilty to issuing charitable-donation tax receipts
which overstated the amounts actually given.
Yesterday, the community, through a public-relations firm, asserted that
government officials had agreed not to go after donors who participated in the
scam. The same statement said the community's Montreal Rabbinical College would
retain the right to issue charitable-donation receipts that can be used to
reduce donors' tax liabilities.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
<END OF ARTICLE>
Compare the above tax scam via issuing "tax receipts" via a religious
institution compared to McVay's "operation":
The Canadian Jewish News:
http://www.cjnews.com/pastissues/oct21-99/front3.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada administers the Nizkor
Fund, through which donations to support the Web site can be channeled."
Institute for Jewish Policy Research
http://www.axt.org.uk/antisem/countries/canada/canada.htm
"Donations to the Nizkor Fund can be made via its administrator, the
League for Human Rights of BBC."
Both links were active at the time of my original posting them:
Date: 2001-04-01 (They are no longer active.)
Here are more reveling links that Jewish organizations use their tax exempt
status to fund Nizkor:
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&selm=an_180624119
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor's Addresses & Phone Numbers again
Date: 1996/09/14
Message-ID: <51f0al$3...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <14SEP199...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>,
dmitt...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:
> As Mr. Grossvenom has been so kind to point out, the address up top is
> a legitimate address to send your Nizkor donations to. (I am uncertain
> whether the second address is still good or is outdated.) A donation
The second address and telephone number have been invalid since 1991, when,
as anyone reading my media archives quickly learns, I closed my business, and
my office. (As the Black-helicopters-and-librium set has already learned,
mail to the wimsey.bc.ca address bounces, as it has since November of 1991;
I just love it when these delusional fruitcakes piddle all over the floor
making asses of themselves in public..."Revisionist scholarship" at its
finest, eh?)
> drop box which is rarely checked. To send your donation (and receive
> your Canadian tax receipt more quickly) send it to:
> Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
> 1461 Blanshard St.
> Victoria, BC
> V8W 2J3
While Congregation Emanu-el will still accept donations for
their Nizkor Fund, they are no longer acting as Nizkor's
primary funding agency. They were, as long noted on Nizkor's
funding page (http;//www.nizkor.org/funding.html), lending a
temporary hand.
Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable to
The Zikaron Society / Nizkor Project
Please mail your cheque to
The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society
6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5
Canadian income tax receipts will be issued.
[Correct American address for donations, as noted on
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html, snipped]
Nizkor thanks you, and, of course, Linda Thompson, Matt Giwer and
Mr. Grosvenor-Gruber-Acumen-Wahrheit, for the continuing reminder
of the importance of public education, and their contributions
to the continuing success of the Nizkor Project.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html
The Nizkor Project depends entirely upon your generous support; there are
several ways that you can contribute to the Project's continued survival and
growth: Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation with the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a national
volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry,
and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may call
B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist that they
wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer, you can print this
form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo
section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation be invested for
Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation
'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor
Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt. [#0235903-43-13]
<end>
See the pattern?
Doc Tavish
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"Anonymous" <rema...@remailer.xganon.com> wrote in message
news:40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com...
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
> >
> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
> <end>
>
> I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts and I get
> personally attacked!
>
> Here is evidence NIZKOR just might be skirting tax laws and I have
> contacted CCRA too!
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
> Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>
> CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of
> Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are allowed
> to issue "Canadian receipts"!!
>
> "A registered charity is a charity that has specifically applied to the
> Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for registration and has been accepted
as
> such. A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax
purposes."
> CCRA rule included below with web link for verification!
>
> LOOK!
>
> From: Charity webmail <Charities-B...@ccra-adrc.gc.ca>
> Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" <Blaine....@ccra-adrc.gc.ca>
> To: Scott Bradbury <xxx...@flash.net>
> Subject: Registered charity question.
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>
> Thank you for your e-mail.
>
> The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency is
> responsible for the registration and compliance of charities in Canada.
> These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations" as are
registered
> in the United States. However, we have no record of a registered charity
by
> the name of Nizkor.org.
>
> Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions of the Canadian Income
> Tax Act, I am unable to disclose information concerning a particular
> organization's tax affairs, including measures taken or to be taken by the
> Department resulting from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that
> all complaints received by the Department are treated seriously and are
> fully investigated, where appropriate.
>
> Finally, the annual information returns of Canadian registered charities
> are available to the public. However, as you will note from the above,
> Nizkor.org is not a registered charity. The non-profit information return
> which you describe is not available to the public.
>
> Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Blaine Langdon
> Charities Directorate
>
> ~~~~END~~~~
>
> kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
> Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
> Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
> Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1...@news.tht.net>
> References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0ef...@4ax.com>
> <3abfe742$0$1...@news.impulse.net>
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
> >
> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
> Glad to see you making that a public record. Care to explain how a website
> not being either an "NPO nor a Charity" can operate as you do and issue
tax
> receipts?
>
> http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645
>
> Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO) Information Return
> Includes Form T1044
>
> [...]
>
> An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income Tax Act is a club,
> society, or association that is organized and operated solely for:
>
> social welfare;
> civic improvement;
> pleasure or recreation;
>
>
> or any other purpose except profit.
>
> Also, no part of the income of these organizations can be payable to or
> otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor, member, or
> shareholder, unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a club,
> society,or association whose primary purpose was to promote amateur
> athletics in Canada.
>
> <<I don't think Nizkor promotes amateur athletics in Canada! Please note
> that the law states above: "no part of the income of these organizations
> can be payable to or otherwise available for the personal benefit of any
> proprietor.." yet Ken McVay is the proprietor or director of Nizkor (a
> website) and he is on public record (also shown below) as responding to
> this question: "Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for
> Nizkor?" with "Yup." Plainly this violates the above and seeing how Nizkor
> operates as a back room operation from the "proprietor's" own house
(proven
> below) this operation should be very questionable! Finally note that Ken
> McVay announced in a public posting above: "Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a
> Charity. Nizkor is a website." How does a "website" warrant receiving
> "exempt donations"? Doc Tavish Comments>>
>
> Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered charities
> An NPO is not a registered charity. A registered charity is a charity that
> has specifically applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
> registration and has been accepted as such.
>
> A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes. An
NPO
> does not have to register either federally or provincially to maintain its
> privileged tax status.
>
> Generally, registered charities also have to disburse 80% of the funds for
> which they issued charitable receipts on their own charitable activities
or
> as gifts to qualified donees. NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations
> or membership fees contributed, and they are not required to disburse a
> specified percentage of their earnings.
>
> <End of CCRA web page>
>
> Notice what CCRA said about "issu[ing] charitable receipts for tax
> purposes"? Look at McVay's operation and see if it complies with the law
> stated above: "NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations.." yet Ken
> McVay's very own NIZKOR page says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a
> Canadian tax receipt." Ken McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity
> as shown down further in this post.
>
> <FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
> -----------------------
>
> Notice what is said above? Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:
>
>
> Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST
>
> "McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort, Mr.
> Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got "caught at it."
>
> <end>
>
> It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor to be a charitable
> organization as shown here:
>
> Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Re: Is Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham Which Gets its Director
> Spending Money? R 2
> Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST
>
> In article <8kjd5t0el7tbd9lv4...@4ax.com>,
> Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable donations in order
to
> >survive. We also accept that any organization whose survival depends on
> >charitable donations should make its records open to the public. Will Ken
> >McVay answer these questions as he is the director of Nizkor!
>
> How does Mr. Bradbury "know" these things?
> How does Mr. Bradbury "know" that Nizkor is a "charitable
> organization?" (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has ever claimed to
> be such an organization?)
>
> <end>
>
> Well now we know Nizkor is not a "charitable organization" so it has to be
> an NPO?! So why does Ken McVay's NPO declare at its web page: "Donations
> over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" which would be in
> violation of: "NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations" but Ken McVay
> lies to a person who's an object of his smear campaign: "McVay/Nizkor" has
> never issued tax receipts of any sort.." Then again McVay admitted higher
> up in this post: "Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a
> website." See how NIZKOR skirts all criteria of the tax laws?
>
> ~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>
> You're a fraud McVay and you need to be exposed!
>
> We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable donations in order to
> survive. We also accept that any organization whose survival depends on
> charitable donations should make its records open to the public. Will Ken
> McVay answer these questions as he is the director of Nizkor!
>
> Questions:
> 1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
> 2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
> 3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
> 4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
> a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
> b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
> 5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
> solicit tax free contributions?
> 6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
> 7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?
>
> http://x71.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=620760630
> Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor? Date:
> 05/08/2000
> Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC <kmc...@vex.net>
>
> >f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
>
> Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.
>
> ~~~~~~~End of DejaCom Archival Snippet~~~~~~
>
> 8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities) located in a back
> room of your own residence as this says?
> http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX
> (Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent McVay from
> spamming the search engines.)
>
> "A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by
> ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from
> the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
> The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a
> middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its
> location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
> monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a
> 50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
> wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs
> from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
>
> A question for all reading this:
> How many organizations which receive charitable contributions operate from
> the backroom of the director's home? He claims to be non-profit and it
> appears that he would have a low overhead-- so how much money does Ken
> McVay receive for his backroom operation?
>
> 9) Why should anyone wish to donate to an organization who has a
> director who's been caught in numerous lies especially as documented here?
>
> Using <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> the adjacent
archive
> may be retrieved by inserting the included MESSAGE ID into the field:
> "Message ID - Find the message with message ID" and then activating the
> "Google Search" button. USE this Message ID:
> 1jq3fts9fb6cn1lth...@4ax.com
> From: Andrew John McVay (Andrew_J...@fractal.com)
> Subject: Ken McVay Caught in a Lie? What About That Nizkor San Antonio
> Operation
> He Has Denied Having?
> Date: 2001-05-03 17:03:02 PST
>
> Here is a real dilemma. Which entity is lying- Nizkor (Ken McVay) or B'nai
> Brith the Funding Arm of Nizkor (Ken McVay)?
>
> Ken McVay insists that he has no San Antonio, Texas connection YET his
> funding arm shows that he does at their web page! Here is B'nai Brith:
>
> <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
> distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
> a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
> research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
>
> http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-01.htm
> (Link Active July 13, 2001)
>
> B'NAI BRITH CANADA
>
> LINKS If you would like to add your organization or community service to
> this listing, or if you have suggestions for other links, please email the
> webmaster at b...@bnaibrith.ca.
>
> Jewish Indices | Selected Israel sites | Media Sites | Hate on the
Internet
> | Palestinian and Islamic Sites | Anti-Hate Groups | Canadian Government
>
> Anti-Hate Groups:
> Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
> Canadian Race Relations Foundation / Fondation canadienne des relations
> raciales
> Fighting Hate - HTML
> HateWatch Inc.
> Simon Wiesenthal Center
> Anti-Racist Action
> Human Rights Internet (HRI)
> International Centre of Human Rights and Democratic Development
>
> Nizkor Home Page Toronto
> http://www.nizkor.org/
>
> Nizkor Home Page British Columbia
> http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
>
> Nizkor - Toronto (T1)
> http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/
>
> Nizkor - Toronto (128K)
> http://www1.ca.nizkor.org/
>
> Nizkor - San Antonio (128K)
> http://www1.us.nizkor.org/
> (Link active July 13, 2001)
>
> Holocaust Cybrary- Now at Nizkor!
>
> Nizkor Search Engine - San Antonio
> http://www1.us.nizkor.org/search.html
>
> <end>
>
> Those US Nizkor Links work! Why does Ken McVay insist he has no U.S.
> operation? Why does he deny having a San Antonio, Texas operation when his
> money changer, B'nai Brith, shows so!? Is Ken McVay afraid that the
American
> IRS will audit his Tax Scheme?
>
> Here is Ken McVay denying his San Antonio, Texas operation:
>
> From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
> United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received
> any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that
my
> challenge stands:
>
> If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
> organization in the United States, produce it.
>
> While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
> produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
> in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>
> 1,999,936 to go.
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
>
> <<YAWN>>
>
> <end>
>
> Doc Tavish (doc_tavi...@my-deja.com)
> Re: Doc, do me a favor
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Date: 2001-01-03 13:51:40 PST
>
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 20:22:03 GMT, Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
> >operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
> >work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>
> Will do but he has not denied lately that I've seen. I seem to remember
> that someone else did claim that Nizkor in Texas had folded. I haven't
> seen any trace lately by Nizkor claiming operations in Texas.
>
> Doc Tavish
>
> >I am your friend,
> >Jeff F. Davis
>
> <END>
>
> In the short interval between making the reply and researching I found out
> my original answer was in error.
>
> Here is what I found:
> http://www.mazal.org/
> (Looks Nizkorish)
>
> http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
> Whois: mazal.org
> Server: -automatic-
>
> Registrant:
> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
> 600 Sandau Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216 US
> Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
> 600 Sandau
> Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216
> 210-377-2422
> Record last updated on 25-Jul-2000.
> Record expires on 28-Jun-2001.
> Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
> Database last updated on 3-Jan-2001 04:57:34 EST.
> Domain servers in listed order:
> NS1.VERDAD.ORG 209.142.81.242
> NS2.IDWORLD.NET 209.142.64.253
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Here is another link:
>
> http://www.fpp.co.uk/HNet/Mott231000.html
> (I actually used this to get the info above)
>
> [...]
>
> For those who are curious, here the details of
> <http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG> the neutral
> people behind Mr Mazal: His above website is registered by the "San
> Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of 600 Sandau Suite 400,
> San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA. The billing contact is Mr Harry
> Mazal of the same address: San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o
> BASIC, 600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216, and their phone
> number is 210-377-2422. Somebody might like to check them out in more
> details. We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we
> are told of these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
>
> <<Doc Tavish comment May 3, 2001: No wonder McVay hates David Irving so
> much. David exposes his con game!>>
>
> ~~~~END~~~~
>
>
> McVay claims to have no ties whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area
> Foundation - Nizkor Fund" yet his very own administer of his exempt funds
> shows otherwise as I documented higher up in this post. B'nai Brith's own
> web page gives a San Antonio link as shown above!
>
> Why does Ken McVay lie? Why won't Ken McVay make public information other
> organizations which receive exempt donations are required by law to make?
>
> How many reputable organizations which receive exempt donations act in
such
> a manner when they are put under scrutiny? If Ken McVay's Nizkor Org were
> above board then why all the nastiness? Why all the personal attacks and
> evasion?
>
> Neither does the CCRA has any file on Nizkor and it having "permission" to
> receive exempt donations as documented above.
>
> The local BBB doesn't even have Nizkor registered!
>
> LOOK!
>
> http://204.228.135.156/van/search.html
>
> BBB Serving Mainland B.C. Database Search
>
> TIP: Normally you would only enter a part of the company's name and search
> on that. If you put information in other fields, then the search will only
> bring up companies that match ALL of the search criteria. You should
> usually leave most of the fields blank.
>
> Company Name:
>
> I entered Nizkor and this is what I got:
>
> http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
> BBB of Mainland B.C. Database Search Results
> No entries fit these criteria.
>
> To recommend that the BBB of Vancouver, British Columbia
> consider creating a report on the company in question,
> click HERE. <http://204.228.135.156/van/createreport.html>
>
> For more information contact us:
>
> Better Business Bureau
> 788 Beatty St., Suite 404
> Vancouver, British Columbia V6B 2M1
> Phone: (604) 682-2711
>
> Perhaps BBB will get some answers about Ken McVay's sham!
>
> As revenue payers you all owe it to yourselves to demand that the Nizkor
> Tax Scheme be investigated.
>
> BTW for the record- once again Ken McVay in denial said (as documented
> above): "While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool)
to
> produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
> in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files."
>
> Ken I just ran GEEKTOOLS on MAZAL.ORG and got this:
> http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
>
> Registrant:
> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
> 600 Sandau Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216 US
> Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
> 600 Sandau
> Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216
> 210-377-2422
> Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
> Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
> Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
> Database last updated on 13-Jul-2001 01:55:00 EDT.
>
> <end>
>
> Notice that the Database was last updated "13-Jul-2001 01:55:00 EDT" and
> that GEEKTOOLS still shows (which agrees with B'nai Brith showing
"Nizkor -
> San Antonio"): "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC" which
> deep sixes your arrogant and deceptive claim: "While waiting for Don Ellis
> (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to produce evidence that there exists
> some sort of "Nizkor Organization" in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived
64
> new files."
>
> Your challenge was: "While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the
> Wading Pool) to produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor
> Organization" in San Antonio, Texas.."- I did again prove that such exists
> again!
>
> People why do you all let this guy receive exempt donations at your
expense?
>
> Key facts you all should not forget:
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
> Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>
> Remember "exempt donation"
>
> Ken McVay admitted:
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
> >
> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
> You all may verify the above by:
>
> Using <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> the adjacent
archive
> may be retrieved by inserting the included MESSAGE ID into the field:
> "Message ID - Find the message with message ID" and then activating the
> "Google Search" button. USE this Message ID: 99oro0$259r$1...@news.tht.net
>
> Remember what CCRA told me via e-mail:
>
> From: Charity webmail <Charities-B...@ccra-adrc.gc.ca>
> Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" <Blaine....@ccra-adrc.gc.ca>
> To: Scott Bradbury <xxx...@flash.net>
> Subject: Registered charity question.
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>
> Thank you for your e-mail.
>
> The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency is
> responsible for the registration and compliance of charities in Canada.
> These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations" as are
registered
> in the United States. However, we have no record of a registered charity
by
> the name of Nizkor.org.
>
> <end>
>
> Remember what CCRA revenue code says concerning exempt donations:
>
> http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645
>
> Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO) Information Return
> Includes Form T1044
>
> [...]
>
> An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income Tax Act is a club,
> society, or association that is organized and operated solely for:
>
> social welfare;
> civic improvement;
> pleasure or recreation;
> or any other purpose except profit.
>
> Also, no part of the income of these organizations can be payable to or
> otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor, member, or
> shareholder, unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a club,
> society,or association whose primary purpose was to promote amateur
> athletics in Canada.
>
> <<I don't think Nizkor promotes amateur athletics in Canada! Please note
> that the law states above: "no part of the income of these organizations
> can be payable to or otherwise available for the personal benefit of any
> proprietor.." yet Ken McVay is the proprietor or director of Nizkor (a
> website) and he is on public record (also shown above) as responding to
> this question: "Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for
> Nizkor?" with "Yup." Plainly this violates the above and seeing how Nizkor
> operates as a back room operation from the "proprietor's" own house
(proven
> above) this operation should be very questionable! Finally note that Ken
> McVay announced in a public posting above: "Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a
> Charity. Nizkor is a website." How does a "website" warrant receiving
> "exempt donations"? Doc Tavish Comments>>
>
> Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered charities
> An NPO is not a registered charity. A registered charity is a charity that
> has specifically applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
> registration and has been accepted as such.
>
> A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes. An
NPO
> does not have to register either federally or provincially to maintain its
> privileged tax status.
>
> <end>
>
> Posted courtesy of: Jay Winkler
> http://i.am/barefootjay
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>
Stephen H. Kawamoto
League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
about so-called Ukrainian Nazi collaborators within pointing out that
Ukrainian paramilitary units that aligned with the Nazis did so to first
protect the Ukraine from State terrorism of the Bolsheviks, but were
reluctant collaborators who did none of the atrocities committed solely by
German Nazis inside the Ukraine.
Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
YMMV.
Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism nor is analysis and constructive criticism
of the militancy of the state of Israel, as long as it is appropriate,
non-violent, and tasteful.
--
Overgrow the State!
White hat hackers: keeping the worldwide web secure...
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--
"The Informer" <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM> wrote in
message news:uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com...
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
has long since severed its ties. In short, there is no connection
between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
your free speech to do so.
>about so-called Ukrainian Nazi collaborators within pointing out that
>Ukrainian paramilitary units that aligned with the Nazis did so to first
>protect the Ukraine from State terrorism of the Bolsheviks, but were
>reluctant collaborators who did none of the atrocities committed solely by
>German Nazis inside the Ukraine.
In other words, they were guilty of collaboration with the Nazis.
Thank you for admitting it. As to your very silly allegation that only
the German Nazis committed atrocities in the Ukraine, that's patent
nonsense.
>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>
>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
making that clear.
--
"In the final analysis, one does not refute a closed system, a total
lie that is not refutable to the extent that its conclusions has
preceded any evidence." (Vidal-Naquet, Pierre. Assassins of Memory,
New York: Columbia University Press. p.81)
The Informer
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)Lines: 40
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be apple=ied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I provide proof below.
>In short, there is no connection between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't
>a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof below.
>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
------------------------------------------------------------------------
B'nai B'rith
------------------------------------------------------------------------
LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin America a
Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison.
The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the southernmost
Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling and
resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he violated
the nation's constitution and penal code.
<I'd bet that Jews put great pressure on politicians to have this penal code
written and enacted! Tavish comment>
The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
<Mere words will get you prison! This is what McVay and his Jews
are up to on a global scale. Tavish comment>
"Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
society," said Abrao Lowenthal.
<It is NOT a democratic society but a communist one that imprisons
people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought Ellwanger
to trial.
<One only wonders how many other people in how many other nations
will eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
Neo-Bolshevist progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish comment>
Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
published 13 anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous
The Elders of the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International
Jew. One of Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
<END OF EXCERPT>
Everyone remember that the organization which channels funding to McVay works to
have people imprisoned in other countries! Proof that B'nai Brith is McVay's
money launderer:
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
FAIR USE INTENDED -- <Title 17 U.S.C. section 107>
[...]
>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>
>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>making that clear.
How about this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=1r8b5ton2fd134nbes57qs0g31nf5j8laj%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info...
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Reply-To: doc_tavi...@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <1r8b5ton2fd134nbe...@4ax.com>
References: <932s4v$3it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
<933399$1mds$1...@news.tht.net>
<9346ss$5ts$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)
Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....
<end>
Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their won words too!
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
Notice that your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
your MASTERS!
http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
"...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.."
Need I say more other Nizkor's Ken McVay, ADL, and B'nai Brith are enemies of
FREE SPEECH!?
Doc Tavish
---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?
"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
The Informer
Joel Rosenberg <jo...@ellegon.com> wrote:
>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) writes:
>
>> In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>> Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>> >League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>> B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>> has long since severed its ties. In short, there is no connection
>> between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
:
>> >defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
:
>> Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>> your free speech to do so.
:
>Hey, Ken, warn me before you do things like that, okay? -- I was drinking coffee,
>and I just had to mop off the keyboard.
Well this should make you spill your coffee again vermin because it shows B'nai
Brith trying to have an individual imprisoned for his words and books! Care to
deny it vermin?
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
<END OF EXCERPT>
Once again the vermin try to be clever in their seeking to ridicule those who
expose their ways to the public at large!
Doc Tavish
The Informer
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Lines: 40
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be apple=ied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
See how easy it is to catch Con Man McVay in his lies. Count all the lies I
catch Nizkor's Con Man in using the content of this post alone!
>In short, there is no connection between BB and the ADL,
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof above. Now live with the fact that you're
either ignorant or you're just a liar!
>and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof in extracts (which follow) I have
un-earthed.
>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
<END OF EXCERPT>
Everyone remember that the organization which channels funding to McVay works to
have people imprisoned in other countries! Proof that B'nai Brith is McVay's
money launderer:
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
FAIR USE INTENDED -- <Title 17 U.S.C. section 107>
[...]
>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>
>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>making that clear.
How about this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=1r8b5ton2fd134nbes57qs0g31nf5j8laj%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info...
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Reply-To: doc_tavi...@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <1r8b5ton2fd134nbe...@4ax.com>
References: <932s4v$3it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
<933399$1mds$1...@news.tht.net>
<9346ss$5ts$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)
Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....
<end>
Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their own words too!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
Notice that your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
your MASTERS!
http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
"...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.."
Need I say more other Nizkor's Ken McVay, ADL, and B'nai Brith are enemies of
FREE SPEECH!?
Did anyone count all the lies I caught Nizkor's Ken McVay in? I count three!
How will Ken McVay and his minions respond? They will make personal attack as
usual! YOU ALL CAN COUNT ON IT!
Henry
Which is your favorite group nameless coward?
People like these hate Israel, Jews and the United States of America
RADIO ISLAM, WHITE RACISTS, NEO-NAZIS, SKINHEADS & groups like NATIONAL ALLIANCE,
ZUNDELSITE, JHR,
WACO MUSEUM, JEWWATCH, PAPUREC, CODOH, DAVID DUKE, DAVID IRVING, FARRAKHAN, OSAMA bin LADEN,
ARAFAT, KU KLUX KLAN, ARYAN NATION, DR.AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI ,SADDAM HUSSEIN, ARAfat, TALIBAN,
aL-QAEDA,
OSAMA BIN LADEN, MULLAH MOHHAMED OMAR, DJAMEL BEGHAL, ZACARIAS MOUSSAQUI, AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI
,ABU ZUBASYDAH,
SAID BAHAJI, DJAMEL BEGHAL, HASSAN HATTAB, MOHAMMED ATEF, TOHIR YULDASHEV, AMIR KHATTAB
SAUDI, KHADAFFY
JANJALANI , DR.WILLIAM PIERCE, STORMFRONT & OTHER ANTI-AMERICANS.
The Informer wrote:
--
And the star spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free, and the land of the brave!
Francis Scott Key
Joel Rosenberg
> Actually "The Informer" is another hate group
Nah. He's not a group -- unless you add all his names together. It's
just Scotty Bradbury, the official Villiage Idiot of Belleville TX,
ranting, as usual.
Fortunately, it takes much less time to hit Lafp<Enter> in gnus than
it does for him to come up with a new nym.
--
-------------------------------------
There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun,
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.
-------------------------------------
SW
Stephen H. Wakamoto
wrote in message news:%raQ7.32472$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com...
> man, and i thought charity watch was hypocritical for accepting donations
> from gun groups so the owner could target eco groups.
>
> i wonder who pays Jay Winkler's bills.
And I wonder who pays Stephen Wakamoto's bills. His mommy?
sw
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com> in
alt.revisionism, on Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:46:33 -0600, Anonymous
<rema...@remailer.xganon.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
> >
> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
> <end>
>
> I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts
It doesn't.
> and I get personally attacked!
For being stupid and malicious.
[snip]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>In <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com> in
>alt.revisionism, on Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:46:33 -0600, Anonymous
><rema...@remailer.xganon.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
>> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>> >
>> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>>
>> <end>
>>
>> I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts
:
>It doesn't.
Nizkor does issue tax receipts through its money launderer! B'nai Brith is the
money launderer for those "exempt donations" being funneled to McVay. Care to
deny it now?
>> and I get personally attacked!
:
>For being stupid
I'm not being stupid for exposing an elaborate tax scheme.
> and malicious.
Malicious? I am malicious for exposing McVay? Come on now John- you know better
than that! If anyone is malicious it is McVay and his fellow thug Laurence B.
Shiff. Care to deny McVay and Shiff being close friends seeing how Shiff
supplies McVay with bandwidth and donations?
Doc Tavish
Nicegoy
Pat gave me some information that John Morris supports the training of
little girls in sexual perversion.
INFO
I think the info was on how Sara Salzman's husband trains Sara's five year old
daughter to be a "domme" or dominatrix as this post depicts:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d820%24564153ce%40default
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
Date: 1997/04/04
Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
<01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
See the Message ID above? Everyone look below to see who it belongs to!
<334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
"As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko <cou...@cris.com> is her
husband!
Here is who the above referenced Message ID belongs to:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bc4036%24365e69a0%24524153ce%40crc3.concentric.net&output=gplain
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
Date: 1997/04/03
Message-ID: <01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic.,alt.torture
(WELL- I'LL BE. IT BELONGS TO COUGAR!!)
kitten{CDC} <rain...@praxis.net> wrote in article
<334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>...
> Ok...this group has languished long enough...time to get some
> conversations going in here.
>
> Anyone care to postulate? This one is willing to listen....There has
> to be a Sadist out there, who can...shall we say...stand up for the
> Class?
>
I'll stand and deliver, for the moment. I am one who did at least _attempt_
to do the other side of the whip in a serious mode. Once. The experiment
(for that was what it was) was worse than a failure, as it cost me a
friendship.
It is true that I have no experience of what it is to fly into subspace at
the hands of another. I have flown others there, but can not go there
myself. Instead, I've had to work on developing my own "inner
submissive-masochist" to steal a phrase from the current pop culture. This
personality is kept inside my head, being the idealized image of the type
of person I enjoy playing with. When writing or planning a scene, she gets
consulted.
Yes, she, since that is my primary leaning. And a very important one at
that.
I dominate females, primarily. No matter who I might have dominate me, they
would be dominating a male. Maybe it's been mentioned in passing here
before, maybe not, but there is a world of difference between the
psychology of male and female masochists. Not all of it is physiology. More
of it has to do with where you will focus the bulk of your verbalization.
Under no circumstances would I be able to replicate the experience of being
a female masochist in mentality. I wasn't raised female.
Therefore, I developed the alternate personality who was raised female, and
is female. It is not the same as my feminine side, but a carefully created
image of my idealized prey.
PurpleMage
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
There are a lot of posts made by Cougar which show:
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Whats inside of the mind of a serial killer?
Date: 1997/10/29
Message-ID: <01bce47e$708974c0$0fa8...@crc3.concentric.net>
References: <8780500...@dejanews.com>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bcb955%24e8324aa0%2440a89bcf%40crc3.concentric.net&output=gplain
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Auto Bondage
Date: 1997/09/04
Message-ID: <01bcb955$e8324aa0$40a8...@crc3.concentric.net>
References: <340D79B7...@hotmail.com>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.torture
There is a method of having yourself whipped, with a little work.
First, obtain a large household type fan, you may already own one. Second,
a timing device capable of being set to relatively short periods of time,
usually sold to turn lamps on and off in hardware stores. You will need to
have access to a drill, as well.
Open the fan up, taking the guard pieces off. Drill a hole about 1" in from
the tip of each fan blade. Next, take leather strips (boot laces from any
store will work for this) and knot one end through the hole in the fan
blade, leaving about 2 feet of the leather hanging off the end of the
blade.
Set the fan into a position to swing the leather strips so they will fly
parrallel to the floor. Set up the timing device to activate in a few
minutes, then stand within range of the leather strips on the fan blade.
When the power cuts on, the blades will begin to turn, the leather to fly
and you will be whipped by each strip as it passes. Start with the fan's
lowest power, but if that is too mild, set it higher.
Now, you might move away from the fan, so you might also practice some self
bondage to keep you in position, such as bent over a chair with your ass
sticking out where the fan's strips will strike your ass.
It isn't the cane, but that is best weilded by an experienced hand.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:03:33 -0600, INFO
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:28:04 -0500,
> <7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com> Nicegoy
> <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> >Pat gave me some information that John Morris supports the
> >training of little girls in sexual perversion.
False. Pat Blakley says clearly that I support the training of
little girls in sexual perversion.
Do why he made a false accusation against me? Because I dared to
challenge his false accusation against Sara Salzman.
This is the sort of lie you support when you support Don Ellis and
Pat Blakely in their campaign of criminal harassment.
> I think the info was on how Sara Salzman's husband trains Sara's
> five year old daughter to be a "domme" or dominatrix as this post
> depicts:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d820%2
> 4564153ce%40default From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
> Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
> Date: 1997/04/04
> Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
> References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
> <01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
> See the Message ID above? Everyone look below to see who it belongs
> to!
> <334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
> Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
> Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
The actual quote is
As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is
NOT meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!)
Why are you supporting the lie that Sara Salzman's children are
sexually abused, Scott?
> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko <cou...@cris.com>
> is her husband!
And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is credible
when he makes a false accusation of criminality against Ken McVay.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <nv441u4mv7amprppp...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 07:26:30 -0600, The Informer
<REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:01:43 GMT,
> <57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:46:33 -0600, Anonymous
> ><rema...@remailer.xganon.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC),
> >> kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
> >> >Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
> >> >Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
> >> <end>
> >> I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts
> >It doesn't.
> Nizkor does issue tax receipts through its money launderer!
No, it doesn't. Nizkor does not issue tax receipts.
> B'nai Brith is the
> money launderer for those "exempt donations" being funneled to
> McVay. Care to deny it now?
Money laundering is a crime. You have produced no evidence of
criminal activity. You also claim to have reported McVay and LHRBB
to the authorities for their supposed criminal activities, yet no
charges have been brought.
If it is money laundering for LHRBB to direct donations according to
the wishes of the donor, then it is money laundering when the United
Way offers me the option of choosing which, if any, of its
participating charities I would prefer that my donation went to or
which participating charities I would prefer would get no share of my
donation.
> >> and I get personally attacked!
> >For being stupid
> I'm not being stupid for exposing an elaborate tax scheme.
You are being stupid because you have not exposed an elaborate tax
scheme despite your idiotic insistence that you have.
> > and malicious.
> Malicious? I am malicious for exposing McVay?
But you haven't exposed anything except that you are a malign idiot.
> Come on now John- you know better
> than that! If anyone is malicious it is McVay and his fellow thug
> Laurence B. Shiff. Care to deny McVay and Shiff being close friends
> seeing how Shiff supplies McVay with bandwidth and donations?
And supposing that to be true, how does that give you the right to
make up lies about criminal activities like money laundering and tax
avoidance?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Nicegoy
Morris supports perversion. Morris supports people who joke about
their children being trained as sexual creatures.
>
>> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko <cou...@cris.com>
>> is her husband!
That's because he is her husband. Just check her address out against
whois thundernet.org
>
>And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is credible
>when he makes a false accusation of criminality against Ken McVay.
A lot of credibility to me.
Nicegoy
He has the right. Stop crying Morris.
Jeffrey G. Brown
<mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Morris supports perversion.
Show us, Gutless Donnie. You're a known liar. Your unsupported accusations are
as worthless as you are.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <avh41uki5f9d8kagq...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:05:35 -0500, Nicegoy <mkal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:34:30 GMT, John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:03:33 -0600, INFO
> ><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:28:04 -0500,
> >> <7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com> Nicegoy
> >> <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >> >Pat gave me some information that John Morris supports the
> >> >training of little girls in sexual perversion.
> >False. Pat Blakley says clearly that I support the training of
> >little girls in sexual perversion.
> >Do you know why he made a false accusation against me? Because I
> >dared to challenge his false accusation against Sara Salzman.
> >This is the sort of lie you support when you support Don Ellis and
> >Pat Blakely in their campaign of criminal harassment.
> >> I think the info was on how Sara Salzman's husband trains Sara's
> >> five year old daughter to be a "domme" or dominatrix as this
> >> post depicts:
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d82
> >> 0%2 4564153ce%40default From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
> >> Date: 1997/04/04
> >> Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
> >> References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
> >> <01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
> >> See the Message ID above? Everyone look below to see who it
> >> belongs to!
> >> <334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
> >> Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
> >> Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
> >> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
> >The actual quote is
> > As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is
> > NOT meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!)
> >Why are you supporting the lie that Sara Salzman's children are
> >sexually abused, Scott?
> Morris supports perversion. Morris supports people who joke about
> their children being trained as sexual creatures.
And where are those megabytes of misread and misunderstood text that
usually accompany your false accusations? Should we just take your
say so after I've just shown that you lied about Sara Salzman?
I've already told you that there is nothing you people can do to
frighten me. You can try the tactics you've already tried on Sara
Salzman like filing false police reports, like posting her address
and telephone number, like making crank phone calls, like posting
forged threats against the US President, but you won't frighten me:
you'll just piss me off.
> >> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko
> >> <cou...@cris.com> is her husband!
> That's because he is her husband. Just check her address out
> against whois thundernet.org
> >And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is
> >credible when he makes a false accusation of criminality against
> >Ken McVay.
> A lot of credibility to me.
But then, you are originator of some of the lies he tells.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <r3i41uo1nrfhgfm6j...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:06:25 -0500, Nicegoy <mkal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:47:13 GMT, John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
[snip]
> >> Come on now John- you know better
> >> than that! If anyone is malicious it is McVay and his fellow
> >> thug Laurence B. Shiff. Care to deny McVay and Shiff being close
> >> friends seeing how Shiff supplies McVay with bandwidth and
> >> donations?
> >And supposing that to be true, how does that give you the right to
> >make up lies about criminal activities like money laundering and
> >tax avoidance?
> He has the right. Stop crying Morris.
And I have the right to say that he doesn't have the right to make
false accusations.
Maybe you're the one who should stop trying to frighten people out of
exercizing their right to speak.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-62D...@news.alt.net...
INFO
I ask this- what sort of a person says such about children and posts to various
bondage and torture groups? Are you confirming <cr...@cougar.com> is Sara's
husband now?
>> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko <cou...@cris.com>
>> is her husband!
:
>And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is credible
>when he makes a false accusation of criminality against Ken McVay.
Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar! Have you not read these posts where I
show McVay to be a liar using his own words?
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
I catch McVay in three very major lies in the above post!
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Jamie McCarthy Confirmed Nizkor Received Funding from The San Antonio
Area Foundation (Also ADL=GESTAPO)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:43:34 -0600
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Message-ID: <au921u8gu4klie46h...@4ax.com>
Jamie McCarthy proves McVay lies about getting monies from The San Antonio Area
Foundation in the above post!
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Updated WWW.NIZKOR.ORG's Fully Documented Blatant Dishonesty About its
Funding Made Public (For Submission to CCRA) R_2
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:24:25 -0600
Message-ID: <aou11ucticfu9doqg...@4ax.com>
I fully expose all the lies and deceptions about McVay's funding in the above
post! Care to deny my documentation is in error?
BTW John do you care to deny as proven in the following archive that Ken McVay
doesn't deliberately lie in order to smear private citizens?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6qk4t1adnum6sjuipf%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_tavi...@my-deja.com)
Subject: Ken McVay and his Nizkor Deliberately Make Public False Information In
Order to Smear Private Citizens....
Message-ID: <h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6...@4ax.com>
References: <mne99t40jbrtrfd2b...@4ax.com>
<b8l99t4ufrm7pbl2g...@4ax.com>
<4mq99t41vct4r917u...@4ax.com>
<3A95BD76...@one.net.au>
<974eo8$s29$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-02-22 20:52:17 PST
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:35:04 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
(Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3A95BD76...@one.net.au>,
>Racman01 <racm...@one.net.au> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>What would you know Jack, you are a second grade English teacher in a
>>country where everyone has English as their first language, next you will
>>be teaching Eskimos to build igloos.
>I owe you an apology, Sir. I thought your abject ignorance only
>extended to your abysmal lack of knowledge of the Holocaust.
>
>I was wrong, as your rather stupid remark above demonstrates. You're
>also completely ignorant about our Canadian reality.
>
>My mistake... you're a much great ignoramus than I suspected.
The real ignoramuses are those who think they can abuse the legal system
to carry out their demented political agenda on their opposition and make
false statements to the court and encourage others to do so as well!
BTW I will be running some posts which will be FWD to your "sponsors" and
to the appropriate Canadian Tax Revenue agency showing how you use your
web site to circulate false information about private citizens.
Here is a potential first installment:
I.E.
From Nizkor smears private citizens archives:
Shofar FTP Archive File
people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.02
"the Defendant returned all process and intensified his campaign of
harassment extending it to direct and violent harassment of Plaintiff's
parents, siblings.. Defendant Bradbury had, during this period,
intensified and enlarged his campaign of criminal harassment. It now
includes violent threats against Plaintiff's parents and family..."
This false accusation is from:
Shofar FTP Archive File
people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
"The most outrageous example of the terrorist activities in which
Defendant Bradbury engages us his campaign against Plaintiff's family.
Defendant Bradbury has participated in producing an Internet site which
list the names, addresses and telephone numbers of Plaintiff's father,
mother, sister and brother."
Here is proof positive I did NOT make such a post:
From: Doc Tavish (NOSPAMdo...@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: BRADBURY SAYS "I'M "NO USER" - YFE Telephone Threat
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-01-23 16:46:04 PST
[...]
<I deleted the DejaCom URL for this posting>
From: Jeffrey G Brown <jeffreygbr...@hotmail.com.invalid>
Subject: Give Yale Edeiken's relatives a call.
Date: 01 Jul 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <146d0240...@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com>
Bytes: 609
X-Originating-Host: 24.27.186.114
X-Complaints-To: wren...@remarq.com
X-Trace: WReNphoon4 962515052 10.0.2.14 (Sat, 01 Jul 2000 22:17:32 PDT)
Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start
Here
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 22:17:32 PDT
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
X-Wren-Trace:
eD8aMjMqbSdsdS4xPG07LyouPTUtNV8hNSc9PT8naHw/ND9sZTF4Zn1vY2x/Ln18
<All names, addresses, and telephone numbers deleted for they are not
relevant>
-----------------------------------------------------------
Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
Up to 100 minutes free!
http://www.keen.com
~~End of CLEANED DejaCom Archive~~
Notice in the headers above the field:
"X-Originating-Host: 24.27.186.114"
What does the origin show when rendered using a WHO IS server?
I used this WHO IS agent <http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi> and
it rendered "24.27.186.114" as:
ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner (NET-ROAD-RUNNER-1)
13241 Woodland Park Road
Herndon, VA 20171 US
Netname: ROAD-RUNNER-1
Netblock: 24.24.0.0 - 24.31.255.255
Maintainer: SCRR
Coordinator:
ServiceCo LLC (ZS30-ARIN) ab...@rr.com
1-703-345-3416
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
DNS1.RR.COM 24.30.200.3
DNS2.RR.COM 24.30.201.3
Record last updated on 11-Jul-2000.
Database last updated on 15-Jan-2001 18:30:16 EDT.
<END>
I am sorry to say that I do not have an internet provider based in
Virginia! The above internet provider is also a cable modem type provider
too! I guess Edeiken will next accuse me of having over a 1000 mile cable
to Virginia from Texas! See how he makes false accusations when he has not
considered the evidence!?
Here is what Road Runner or RR.COM says of their service:
http://www.rr.com/rdrun/
"Road Runner LLC, headquartered in Herndon, VA is the parent company of
Road Runner, the nation's pre-eminent broadband service provider. The Road
Runner service delivers high-speed Internet access and compelling
broadband applications and services to the PC over the Road Runner all
optical broadband IP data network combined with an affiliated cable
operator's local hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) infrastructure."
(We don't have digital fiber optic cable in Bellville, Texas and my cable
company is Charter Communications which still uses the old analog cable
without any sort of internet connection-- FACT!)
Here is Road Runner's availability:
http://rrcorp.central.rr.com/hso/avail.asp
I entered my zip code (77418) in the search for areas served and this is
what I got: "Thank you very much for your interest in Road Runner. At this
time we do not have definitive plans to launch Road Runner in your area."
NEWS FLASH! Guess what a DNS search rendered on
"24.27.186.114"? It gives the "dialup's" real name and guess what?
LOOK!
(NOTE: Sam Spade is an internet diagnosis and research tool used to fight
spam and search out the identities of spammers and other miscreants! Sam
Spade is FreeWare and is available at: <http://samspade.org/ssw/>)
nslookup 24.27.186.114
Canonical name: cvg-27-186-114.cinci.rr.com
Addresses: 24.27.186.114
Sam Spade also revealed:
Trying 24.27.186 at ARIN
ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner (NET-ROAD-RUNNER-1)
13241 Woodland Park Road
Herndon, VA 20171 US
Netname: ROAD-RUNNER-1
Netblock: 24.24.0.0 - 24.31.255.255
WHO IS <http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi> showed
"cvg-27-186-114.cinci.rr.com" as:
Registrant:
EXCALIBUR Group, A Time Warner Company (RR6-DOM)
13241 Woodland Park Rd
Herndon, VA 20171 US
Domain Name: RR.COM
Whose posts originate from Cincinnati? Who has a Road Runner account in
Cincinnati? Isn't it ironic that I get blamed for what a person in
Cincinnati did!? The headers are here for all to see and the appropriate
internet tools are available for verification of what I now post!
NOW I ASK- Do I have a very long cable to Cincinnati with which I use to
access a cable modem in that city?
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like I did NOT post Edeiken's relatives' addresses and I did not
make a web page with such names and addresses depicted either! I am dying
for Edeiken to show proof! This case will go to a higher court I am
willing to bet!
BTW I might as well expose another set of outrageous lies and accusations:
Here is Ken McVay foisting another lunatic Edeiken false accusation. Yale
accuses me of harassing myself! Yes according to his "Admitted as FACT"
all of the Nazihunter web pages were uploaded by me! Yale doesn't care
that the ISPs were all Canadian or that I filed formal complaints to the
ISPs which I CCd many to my attorney for his files. Yale doesn't care that
Chris Power of RCMP has my complaint on file and has acknowledged my
complaint (finally). I am sure that I would be using Canadian ISPs to
upload web pages and then report myself!!! How much longer will Yale's
minions keep denying Yale is a looney!
Here are the false allegations:
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: REPOST "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:56:19 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <96h8oj$2rjk$1...@news.tht.net>
[...]
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-RA.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
REQUESTS FOR ADMISSION
NOW COMES Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken and demands that, pursuant to Rule
4014, Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, Defendant Scott Bradbury
admit or deny the truth of the following within thirty (30) days of
service or, by failing to do so, admit the truth of the matters asserted:
[...]
3. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published material on the Internet
under the pseudonym "Nazihunter."
4. Defendant Scott Bradbury has created and published on the
Internet under the name of "Nazihunter" a website which gives his own
address and telephone number.
5. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter falsely claimed that
said website was created by others in an attempt to harass him.
6. Defendant Scott Bradbury has, at various times, published his
own address and telephone number under the name of "Nazihunter" together
with various threats of violence.
7. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter made the false claim,
based upon such publications, that he is being harassed and threatened by
others.
[...]
<end>
I now answer the lunacy of Edeiken's outrageous accusations:
From: Doc Tavish (NOSPAMdo...@my-deja.com)
Subject: NAZIHUNTER'S THREE ISPs ARE RESPONSIBLE -- FIRST LEGAL OPINION IN
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-01-29 00:51:21 PST
[...]
Adapted and excerpted from a letter written to three ISPs:
I show what three ISPs tolerate. Here is a web page titled:
"WELCOME TO NAZIHUNTER'S PAGE."
Would this not imply possession of said web page by a person
called Nazihunter?
Here is Nazihunter's current web page:
http://<domain deleted>/tavishhunter/NAZISCUM.htm
Notice the title of the web page htm? It's naziscum.htm.
I have presented two facts now:
1) The web page is owned by "Nazihunter"
2) The web page htm is titled naziscum or in some cases
nazihunter
YOUR client has advertised such page as the link above shows which says
precisely:
<START>
WELCOME TO NAZIHUNTER'S PAGE
-------------------------------------------------------
WELCOME TO THE NAZI-SCUMBAG PAGE
HERE WE WILL PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE VARIOUS
NET-NAZIS WHO INHABIT ALT.REVISIONISM.
AMONG THEM:
SCOTT BRADBURY, AKA DOC TAVISH
DAVID E. MICHAEL, AKA "DR." DAVID MICHAEL
DON ELLIS, AKA TOO MANY SOCK-PUPPETS TO LIST.
SUCH NAZI PIGS AS MATT GIWER, SABATINI, LIPPAI, BARON, ETC. HAVE BEEN
NEUTRALIZED AND ARE THEREFORE NOT WORTHY OF ANY MORE ATTENTION.HERE'S A
TASTE:
<Don Ellis' address, children's names etc. deleted for this post>
AND NOW FOR THE MORBIDLY OBESE SCOTTIE:
THIS NAZI PIG'S MEDICAL RECORDS REVEAL THAT HE WEIGHS 325 POUNDS, BUT IS
ONLY 5' 5"TALL. THIS MEANS THAT SCOTT BRADBURY IS ABOUNT AS ROUND AS A
BEACH BALL. HE ALSO SUFFERS FROM NARCOLEPSY AND VERTIGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD
A MEANINGFUL JOB, AND IS 100% DEPENDANT ON YOUR TAX DOLLARS.
WHY NOT VISIT HIM?
WITH A BASEBALL BAT !!!!!
<my telephone number deleted>
Scott Bradbury
<my address deleted>
From: the HOLOCAUST MUSEUM100 Raoul WallenbergPlace, Washington, DC 20024
Map To: <A "how to" on arriving to my front door deleted>
copyright @ scott bradbury 2001
<STOP>
This same "WELCOME TO NAZIHUNTER'S PAGE" has been both uploaded as
nazihunter.htm and naziscum.htm and has been advertised by a person who
calls himself Nazihunter from three traceable ISPs who have already been
advised they had better seriously consider their liability for this client
of theirs. The following are just three of Nazihunter's ads from three
different ISPs:
Path: news.flash.net!nntp.flash.net!enews.sgi.com!
newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!
news4.rdc1.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: NEW NAZIHUNTER PAGE: KEEP EM COMING
From: MAR...@NETCOM.CA (NAZIHUNTER)
Organization: ASSYRIANS "R" US
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Lines: 2
Message-ID: <VZhb6.352278$_5.810...@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:06:13 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.43.6.107
X-Complaints-To: ab...@home.net
X-Trace: news4.rdc1.on.home.com 980265973 24.43.6.107
(Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:06:13 PST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:06:13 PST
Xref: news.flash.net alt.revisionism:780969
http://tavishhunter.topcities.com/naziscum.htm
<END>
From: MAR...@NETCOM.COM (NAZIHUNTER)
Subject: Updated Nazihunter Page on Yoderanium
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <j4Na6.139695$f36.5...@news20.bellglobal.com>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 980131215 64.229.81.144
(Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:40:15 EST)
Organization: ASSYRIANS "R" US
MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:40:15 EST
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
http://members.yoderanium.com/nazihunter
<END>
From: MAR...@NETCOM.COM (NAZIHUNTER)
Subject: COPYRIGHT SCOTT BRADBURY
Date: 17 Jan 2001 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <Mt896.81288$n%.3246921@news20.bellglobal.com>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 979702764 64.229.71.127
(Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:39:24 EST)
Organization: ASSYRIANS "R" US
MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:39:24 EST
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/tavishhunter/naziscum.html
<END>
From: mar...@netcom.com (NAZIHUNTER)
Subject: YODERANIUM STILL UP
Date: 14 Jan 2001 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <Ooi86.3167$Oe.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Complaints-To: ab...@attcanada.ca
X-Trace: tor-nn1.netcom.ca 979481262 142.154.136.119
(Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:07:42 EDT)
Organization: Assyrians R Us
MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:07:42 EDT
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
HTTP://MEMBERS.YODERANIUM.COM/NAZIHUNTER
RING!!!! RING!!!1
<END>
From: mar...@netcom.com (NAZIHUNTER)
Subject: HEY FATASS BRADBURY, YOUR PAGE IS STILL UP AND RUNNING
Date: 03 Jan 2001 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <19O46.13378$t3.3...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Complaints-To: ab...@attcanada.ca
X-Trace: tor-nn1.netcom.ca 978562749 142.194.211.19
(Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:59:09 EDT)
Organization: Assyrians R Us
MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:59:09 EDT
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
http://members.yoderanium.com/nazihunter
WATCH OUT FOR THAT BASEBALL BAT, YOU OBESE NAZI PRICK
<END>
Notice the death threat and it was made from a traceable ISP!
Some may not consider the above a death threat but if they know
Nazihunter's history they know what is meant by the baseball bat!
Here is a web page I have on file which I saved as a web page from MSIE
5.0. It was advertised using a home.net ISP dialup.
WWW.HOMESTEAD.COM/NAZIHUNTER1
NAZIHUNTER PRESENTS: THE SCOTT BRADBURY PAGE
INFORMATION ON A DISGUSTING WELFARE CHEATING CRIPPLED GEEK WHO STEALS YOUR
TAX DOLLARS. USE YOUR BASEBALL BAT BEING A CRIPPLE, HE CANNOT RUN VERY
FAR SCOTTIE'S NEW INFO: <Deleted from this post by Scott Bradbury>
[...]
I have all the web pages saved too!
BTW-- the above was advertized using this ISP:
Path:
news.flash.net!nntp.flash.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!
nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: IT LOOKS LIKE DR. SCUMBAG MICHAEL HAS LOST HIS STAR BILLING From:
MAR...@NETCOM.COM (MARDUK)
Organization: NAZIHUNTER
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Lines: 4
Message-ID: <ATtb5.71040$W35.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:18:24 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.228.82.203
X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 963537504 64.228.82.203 (Thu, 13 Jul 2000
21:18:24 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:18:24 EDT
Xref: news.flash.net alt.revisionism:694592
THE PAGE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN MODIFIED TO HONOR SCOTTIE
WWW.HOMESTEAD.COM/NAZIHUNTER1
~~~~END~~~
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
How long will you be able to get tax credited donations when the truth
comes out that you willfully push false information? How long will your
web site have credibility when it is proven its director lies just to
smear his opposition? I have plenty of time McVay and this just may be
Nizkor's undoing!
Care to deny that I exposed many false allegations as being what they are-
lies? Why do you want to have lies at your web site?
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn
MtYCybH1pQwBUCAyRx2BQrY4d0FLSgN6q/Jqx6bq
4hVO1qPOCuPHghZ/XqAcwQdNKJO5l1fYQePL05qNp
My digsig still doesn't resemble Yale's forged version of mine at all and
remember Ken you are "sponsoring" Yale's lies at your site.
LOOK!
<start>
39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!"
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd
Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."
<stop>
The above is an exact quote from the post Ken McVay posted and here is the
GOOGLE archive link for verification:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=McVay+G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj+BnPCuOV9cd&num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=1&seld=925573239&ic=1
"ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
... E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU 4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj
BnPCuOV9cd Said telephonic communication is ... G. Brown and Ken McVay -
what else can you ... alt.revisionism - 14/Feb/2001 by Kenneth McVay, OBC
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Now do you wish to deny that Ken MCVay uses his Nizkor to disseminate false
information about private citizens in order to smear them?
Doc Tavish
Yosarian
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
(Super leaded dementia deleted)
Mr. Bradbury, how high a level of lead can the human body tolerate?
|
|
The major difference between a thing that might go
wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is
that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes
wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at
or repair
Douglas Adams
INFO
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Message-ID: <ig151ug71ioee32d0...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
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SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
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The same trick works with "References:"
On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 21:30:30 GMT, <ig151ug71ioee32d0...@4ax.com>
Yosarian <Yosar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:31:26 -0600, INFO
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>(Super leaded dementia deleted)
You prove that you are totally incapable of dealing with archived documents
which prove factually all that I claim. You are a loser Yosarian!
>Mr. Bradbury, how high a level of lead can the human body tolerate?
I don't know. You tell me. Why do you keep switching from the topic at hand in
the thread? Is it because you can't deal with the facts and you are compelled to
create a diversion?
Now deal with what I posted as shown here:
John Morris stated to me:
I.E.
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AMONG THEM:
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http://tavishhunter.topcities.com/naziscum.htm
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http://members.yoderanium.com/nazihunter
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"Yosarian" do you wish to deny that Ken MCVay uses his Nizkor to disseminate
false information about private citizens in order to smear them?
Doc Tavish
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
Yosarian
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
(dementia precox spew deleted)
Mr. Bradbury, when refineries burn off impurities, can this adversly
affect refinery workers??
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:31:26 -0600, INFO
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:34:30 GMT,
> <pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
> >In <ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:03:33 -0600, INFO
> ><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:28:04 -0500,
> >> <7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com> Nicegoy
> >> <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >> >Pat gave me some information that John Morris supports the
> >> >training of little girls in sexual perversion.
> >False. Pat Blakley says clearly that I support the training of
> >little girls in sexual perversion.
> >Do you know why he made a false accusation against me? Because I
> >dared to challenge his false accusation against Sara Salzman.
> >This is the sort of lie you support when you support Don Ellis and
> >Pat Blakely in their campaign of criminal harassment.
> >> I think the info was on how Sara Salzman's husband trains Sara's
> >> five year old daughter to be a "domme" or dominatrix as this
> >> post depicts:
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d82
> >> 0%2 4564153ce%40default From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
> >> Date: 1997/04/04
> >> Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
> >> References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
> >> <01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
> >> See the Message ID above? Everyone look below to see who it
> >> belongs to!
> >> <334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
> >> Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
> >> Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
> >> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
> >The actual quote is
> > As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is
> > NOT meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!)
> >Why are you supporting the lie that Sara Salzman's children are
> >sexually abused, Scott?
> I ask this- what sort of a person says such about children and
> posts to various bondage and torture groups?
And I ask you this: why are you and your fellow net thugs
deliberately distorting the quote in order to make it appear as if
someone is abusing children?
> Are you confirming <cr...@cougar.com> is Sara's
> husband now?
Why are you asking me? Shouldn't you have found this out before
spreading malicious lies?
> >> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko
> >> <cou...@cris.com> is her husband!
> >And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is
> >credible when he makes a false accusation of criminality against
> >Ken McVay.
> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
Even if that were true, it would not be proof of your accusations of
criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
[snip]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Doc Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:51:02 GMT, <jn951uokddkhksi8r...@4ax.com>
Yosarian <Yosar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 17:21:58 -0600, INFO
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>(dementia precox spew deleted)
Can't refute the facts so you delete it and lay on personal attack. That is all
you losers have isn't it?
>Mr. Bradbury, when refineries burn off impurities, can this adversly
>affect refinery workers??
I don't know. Why don't you ask someone who either works in a refinery or has
worked in a refinery? What do refineries have to do with the topic at hand?
Looks to me like you're diverting!
Doc Tavish
Doc Tavish
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
Did he or did he not say that? I took his other words as tongue in cheek to put
off the NetCops.
>> Are you confirming <cr...@cougar.com> is Sara's
>> husband now?
:
>Why are you asking me? Shouldn't you have found this out before
>spreading malicious lies?
I asked if you're confirming it NOT if cou...@cris.com> is her husband., That
has been pretty well established and Sara has had plenty of opportunities to
deny it too! As for "spreading malicious lies"-- Sara did such against me in a
sworn statement submitted to a court of law! That is about as malicious as you
can get!
>> >> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko
>> >> <cou...@cris.com> is her husband!
:
>> >And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is
>> >credible when he makes a false accusation of criminality against
>> >Ken McVay.
:
>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
:
>Even if that were true,
It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
for him? You know damned well that NIZKOR can't receive exempt donations so he
relies on a money launderer to get those "exempt donations" and then he has the
gall to create an Endowment and Trust Fund to funnel them to. McVay has publicly
admitted that no one has received a cent from his Nizkor Endowment Fund! If
those funds are only meant to supply McVay with money then shouldn't he call
them: "The Ken McVay Endowment Fund" and "The Ken McVay Trust Fund?"
Nicegoy
"Nicegoy" <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com...
John Morris is a chickenhawk.
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com...
You never were good at facts.
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
Now he is whining...
Werner Knoll
"Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
>
> In article <avh41uki5f9d8kagq...@4ax.com>, Gutless Donnie Ellis
> <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Morris supports perversion.
>
> Show us, Gutless Donnie. You're a known liar. Your unsupported accusations are
> as worthless as you are.
>
> JGB
>
It is time for you to get refucked by your masters, you little lapdog!
You are a Liar who denies the existence of Jewish soap. Ken Mcvay's
stooge and fart!
Is this why you hang around in alt.revisionism?
Werner Knoll
Whom Jewish Organizations seek to destroy. Jewish Organizations expose
to Jeffrey G. Brown. Ken McVay's stooge and fart.
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
on Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> >> >[snip]
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211
> >> >> d82 0%2 4564153ce%40default From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
> >> >> Date: 1997/04/04
> >> >> Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
> >> >> References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
> >> >> <01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
> >> >> See the Message ID above? Everyone look below to see who it
> >> >> belongs to!
> >> >> <334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
> >> >> Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
> >> >> Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture
> >> >> "As the step-father of a five year old domme in training..."
> >> >The actual quote is
> >> > As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that
> >> > is
> >> > NOT meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!)
> >> >Why are you supporting the lie that Sara Salzman's children are
> >> >sexually abused, Scott?
> >> I ask this- what sort of a person says such about children and
> >> posts to various bondage and torture groups?
> >And I ask you this: why are you and your fellow net thugs
> >deliberately distorting the quote in order to make it appear as if
> >someone is abusing children?
> Did he or did he not say that?
Did he or did he not say what?
> I took his other words as tongue in cheek to put
> off the NetCops.
Ah. So you placed your own interpretation on his words. And your
warrant for this interpretation? Why, you hate Sara Salzman and
would do anything in your power to hurt her and family.
> >> Are you confirming <cr...@cougar.com> is Sara's
> >> husband now?
> >Why are you asking me? Shouldn't you have found this out before
> >spreading malicious lies?
> I asked if you're confirming it NOT if cou...@cris.com> is her
> husband., That has been pretty well established and Sara has had
> plenty of opportunities to deny it too!
Yet, in a message you posted *only* to alt.revisionism, you were
asking your fellow thugs for confirmation. So you don't actually
know. You are just happy to keep trying to hurt this woman.
> As for "spreading malicious lies"-- Sara did such against me in a
> sworn statement submitted to a court of law!
Well, isn't that a matter for the courts to decide? Who gave you the
right to punish Sara here?
> That is about as malicious as you can get!
I see. So you believe that if someone has lied about you, the
correct response is to punish her with malicious lies of your own.
And you want us to believe that you are not the sick net thug she
says you are? How? By proving that you are a sick net thug?
> >> >> Pig Sara Salzman has yet to deny that the sicko
> >> >> <cou...@cris.com> is her husband!
> >> >And we are supposed to believe that this malicious boob is
> >> >credible when he makes a false accusation of criminality
> >> >against Ken McVay.
> >> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
> >Even if that were true,
> It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken
> McVay's postings back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care
> to deny that he can't get his "facts" together about those bucks
> from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
> >it would not be proof of your accusations of
> >criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
> What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's
> not entitled to receive and then he has a religious organization to
> front exempt donations for him?
I call it a perfectly legal arrangement whereby donors are allowed to
earmark their donations for specific purposes.
If it were not legal, then your ratting him out to the Canadian tax
authorities would at the very least have resulted in the end of the
arrangement if not actual criminal charges for tax avoidance.
That has not happened, so now it simply looks as if you are running a
harassment campaign.
You are alleging criminal acts. Are you going to bakc that up with
something besides ill-informed malicious rants?
> You know damned well that NIZKOR can't receive exempt donations so
> he relies on a money launderer to get those "exempt donations" and
> then he has the gall to create an Endowment and Trust Fund to
> funnel them to. McVay has publicly admitted that no one has
> received a cent from his Nizkor Endowment Fund! If those funds are
> only meant to supply McVay with money then shouldn't he call them:
> "The Ken McVay Endowment Fund" and "The Ken McVay Trust Fund?"
> Need I say more?
Please do. There is nothing like watching a fool make an even bigger
fool of himself.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Ken Lewis
<REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>>Even if that were true,
>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
cretin.
>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
He is certainly entitled to received those donations. If you do not
like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
Hilary Ostrov
<3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>, kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken
Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
[...]
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
>
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations. If you do not
>like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
>
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
And so is everyone else who possesses more than two functioing
neurons. Nonetheless, at very least, I'd like to *believe* that the
ludicrous, lying cretin doesn't stand a chance of entering Canada
after 9/11
hro
=====================
Hilary Ostrov
E-mail: hos...@telus.net
WWW: http://www3.telus.net/myssiwyg/
The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org/
Nicegoy
"Hilary Ostrov" <hos...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:in061uc86eqtopbhe...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, in
> <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>, kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken
> Lewis) wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
> ><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> >
> [...]
>
> >>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not
entitled
> >>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt
donations
> >
> >He is certainly entitled to received those donations. If you do not
> >like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
> >
> >By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
>
> And so is everyone else who possesses more than two functioing
> neurons. Nonetheless, at very least, I'd like to *believe* that the
> ludicrous, lying cretin doesn't stand a chance of entering Canada
> after 9/11
FUCK CANADA AND THE FOOLS THAT LIVE THERE.
Patricia Heil
think anybody is going to believe more trash from you?
The Informer wrote:
>
> From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
> Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
> Followup-To: alt.revisionism
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
> Lines: 40
> Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
> References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
> <J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
> <uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
> <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
>
> SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
> verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
> "To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
> retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
> the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
> message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
> "Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
> 29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
> I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
>
> The same trick can be apple=ied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
>
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
> kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
> >Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
> >>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
> :
> >B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
> >has long since severed its ties.
>
> You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
> I provide proof below.
>
> >In short, there is no connection between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't
> >a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
>
> You're a liar McVay. I provide proof below.
>
> >>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
> :
> >Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
> >your free speech to do so.
>
> How about this?
>
> http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
> (Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
>
> From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> B'nai B'rith
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
> Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin America a
> Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison.
> The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the southernmost
> Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling and
> resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he violated
> the nation's constitution and penal code.
>
> <I'd bet that Jews put great pressure on politicians to have this penal code
> written and enacted! Tavish comment>
>
> The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
>
> <Mere words will get you prison! This is what McVay and his Jews
> are up to on a global scale. Tavish comment>
>
> "Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
> religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
> society," said Abrao Lowenthal.
>
> <It is NOT a democratic society but a communist one that imprisons
> people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
> liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
>
> B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought Ellwanger
> to trial.
>
> <One only wonders how many other people in how many other nations
> will eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
> Neo-Bolshevist progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish comment>
>
> Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
> Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
> published 13 anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous
> The Elders of the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International
> Jew. One of Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
>
> <END OF EXCERPT>
>
> Everyone remember that the organization which channels funding to McVay works to
> have people imprisoned in other countries! Proof that B'nai Brith is McVay's
> money launderer:
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
>
> The Nizkor Project
> c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
> 15 Hove Street
> Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
> Name:________________________________________
> Street Address:________________________________________________
> City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
> E-Mail Address:_________________________________
> Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
> Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
> B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
> memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
> build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
> be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
> with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
> should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
> Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
>
> Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
> [#0235903-43-13]
>
> FAIR USE INTENDED -- <Title 17 U.S.C. section 107>
>
> [...]
>
> >>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
> >>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
> >>
> >>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
> :
> >In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
> >Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
> >information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
> >making that clear.
>
> How about this?
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=1r8b5ton2fd134nbes57qs0g31nf5j8laj%404ax.com
> From: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
> Subject: Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info...
> Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
> Reply-To: doc_tavi...@my-deja.com
> Message-ID: <1r8b5ton2fd134nbe...@4ax.com>
> References: <932s4v$3it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> <933399$1mds$1...@news.tht.net>
> <9346ss$5ts$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT
>
> <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
> distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
> a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
> research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
>
> http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
> (Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)
>
> Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
> League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
> resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
> large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)
>
> ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
> ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
> League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
> racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
> disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
> and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....
>
> <end>
>
> Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
>
> BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their won words too!
>
> http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
> (Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
> "HATE ON THE INTERNET
> The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
> its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
> opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
> At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
> Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
> expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
> the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
> threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
> sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
>
> Notice that your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
> your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
> Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
> whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
> your MASTERS!
>
> http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
> (Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
> "...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
> fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
> two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
> Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.."
>
> Need I say more other Nizkor's Ken McVay, ADL, and B'nai Brith are enemies of
> FREE SPEECH!?
> Doc Tavish
>
> ---
> >I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
> >which existed before Stalin took control?
>
> "Because there was very little to criticize."
> Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
>
>
Joe Bruno
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:15:33 GMT, <m27kryw...@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com>
> Joel Rosenberg <jo...@ellegon.com> wrote:
>
> >kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) writes:
> >
> >> In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
> >> Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> >B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
> >> >League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
>
> >> B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
> >> between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
>
>
> >> Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
> >> your free speech to do so.
> >Hey, Ken, warn me before you do things like that, okay? -- I was drinking coffee,
> >and I just had to mop off the keyboard.
>
> Well this should make you spill your coffee again vermin because it shows B'nai
> Brith trying to have an individual imprisoned for his words and books! Care to
> deny it vermin?
>
> http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
> (Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
> expose their ways to the public at large!
>
> Doc Tavish
>> I keep wondering why you are bothering to post this material here,
Tavish. I am sure the CCRA or their supervisory agency in the Canadian
government has auditors whose function it is to examine people's
financial records and determine if they owe the CCRA any taxes. The
IRS has people like that, you know. No one who posts here, as far as I
can tell, has the authority or the expertise to perform such an audit.
Why don't you simply report your suspicions to the CCRA and let them
take it from there? Are you actually holding yourself out as an expert
on Canadian tax law? FYI, any law, tax or otherwise, consists of more
than just written statutes-it includes the applicable case law by
which judges and administrators determine how the law is to be applied
in specific instances.
Joe Bruno
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
======
"Joe Bruno" <joeb...@indystart.com> wrote in message
news:4bc3e2e1.0112...@posting.google.com...
DOC
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
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SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works to!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As further proof here is what a GOOGLE web search showed up:
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
This is the text version of the PDF file http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
G o o g l e automatically generates text versions of PDF documents as we crawl
the web.
Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its
content. These search terms have been highlighted: nizkor endowment fund
address telephone
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Antonio Area Foundation
Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
[...]
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~
Here is what The San Antonio Times reported:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9kvsat%248v5%2...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com&num=20&hl=en
From: "Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?
Just confess, you got the money.
1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them)...
http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
e=20&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=nizkor&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sor
t&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params
_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_
date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_usewei
ghts=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=47&%5B+Search+%5D.y=17
BTW I confirmed the article above at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Using their inner link of: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
and using that search engine with the keywords: NIZKOR $50,000
(using conditions Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date: all documents
I got:
"1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...."
<end>
Here is what Jamie McCarthy posted:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=jamie-0312962106210001%40clmx43.dial.voyager.net
From: ja...@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy)
Subject: Re: the new, revised Nizkor
Date: 1996/12/03
Message-ID: <jamie-03129...@clmx43.dial.voyager.net>#1/1
references: <3298694d...@news.gte.net>
organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc.
newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
> Take a look at the nizkor site now.
>
> Gone are the references to the synagogue [...]
This is news? It's been that way since September; at that time, the
Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society and the San Antonio Area
Foundation were both established.
# ls -l /web/funding.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 webmaster web 2483 Sep 15 10:26 /web/funding.html
That information again, for anyone who missed it:
NIZKOR FUNDING:
CANADA & THE UNITED STATES
CANADA
Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable to
The Zikaron Society / Nizkor Fund
Please mail your cheque to
The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society
6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221
Burnaby, BC
V5B 4Z5
Canadian income tax receipts will be issued.
THE UNITED STATES
In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
made payable to:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
American donors may deduct contributions as provided in section 170 of
the Internal Revenue Code. Bequests, legacies, devises, transfers, or
gifts are deductible for federal, estate, and gift tax purposes if
they meet the applicable provisions of Code sections 2055, 2106 and
2522.
We very much appreciate your donations, which assist in the
development and enhancement of The Nizkor Project website. Thank You.
--
Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
ja...@voyager.net Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
BTW that San Antonio Foundation Nizkor Fund still shows up at GEEKTOOLS:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
MAZAL.ORG
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
The Mazal Library
600 Sandau, Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
US
210-377-2742
Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 9-Dec-2001 06:12:00 EST.
<end>
Why are you such a hard head Lewis? Do you like looking stupid in front of
everyone who reads these posts? Have you ever considered getting counseling
because you have perceptual problems? Here was another one of your fits of
denial and it was concerning McVay's phoney Nizkor Endowment Fund!
Care to deny that you continually made an ass of yourself as shown here to your
shame Ken Lewis?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=n1nbntgv6bsqq3b7ue9vqm3045t8u0sje3%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Why is Ken Lewis In Denial About Nizkor's ENDOWMENT and TRUST FUNDS?
Nizkor Even Mentions Them at Their Own Web Site! aka Re: A simple question for
Ken McVay..
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:42:49 -0500
Message-ID: <n1nbntgv6bsqq3b7u...@4ax.com>
References: <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
<f8v6ntse5831cnd53...@4ax.com>
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<3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
I changed the news groups to which my intelligent
and truthful reply is made to.
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
in your denial like the G.D. pathetic fool you continually remain to be!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=9sbgntodvi45kf5j71d86pa363r91jjbn6%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Ken Lewis' Obvious Mental Problems and Denial of Fact. Nizkor has a
Trust Fund ...
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:55:52 -0500
Message-ID: <9sbgntodvi45kf5j7...@4ax.com>
References: <29bfac89fafc7e5a...@melontraffickers.com>
<3b786d82...@news.easynews.com> <9l3uq3$74cbs$1...@ID-62889.news.dfncis.de>
<ZeKd7.3903$5d4.1...@monger.newsread.com>
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<pu2gnt8du3v3t9j1p...@4ax.com>
<3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:17:20 GMT, <3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:17:20 GMT, <3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:42:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>
>>Care to make comments on the legality of Nizkor's ENDOWMENT and TRUST FUNDS?
:
>[snip]
>
>I'll do that fukhead.
>
>Nizkor has no endowment fund.
>
>Nizkor has no trust fund.
>
>But the liar and bigot Scott Bradbury knows this. It is easier for him to post
>his lies than to accept the truth.
The truth is that you have mental problems seeing how you won't accept what
Nizkor's own web page says.
Once again Nizkor's own link proves you to be the pathological liar you are. You
only prove that you have mental problems when you persist in denial and
especially when the facts are presented such as now:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
(Link contents shown in the cited post above this current archive.)
[...]
<STOP>
Strange that Ken Lewis can't read! Nizkor's own web page mentions both the
"Nizkor Endowment Fund" and "Nizkor Trust Fund."
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Do the lurkers see that Ken Lewis has problems with facts?
Notice that all Ken Lewis has is personal attack!
Remain the pathological personality you are Lewis because you're entertaining
and you only help kill any credibility you may have!
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
See how easy it is to catch Con Man McVay in his lies. Count all the lies I
catch Nizkor's Con Man in using the content of this post alone!
>In short, there is no connection between BB and the ADL,
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof above. Now live with the fact that you're
either ignorant or you're just a liar!
>and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof in extracts (which follow) I have
un-earthed.
>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
------------------------------------------------------------------------
B'nai B'rith
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<END OF EXCERPT>
Everyone remember that the organization which channels funding to McVay works to
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Reply-To: doc_tavi...@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <1r8b5ton2fd134nbe...@4ax.com>
References: <932s4v$3it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
<933399$1mds$1...@news.tht.net>
<9346ss$5ts$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)
Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....
<end>
Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their own words too!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
Notice that your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
your MASTERS!
http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
"...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.."
Need I say more other Nizkor's Ken McVay, ADL, and B'nai Brith are enemies of
FREE SPEECH!?
Did anyone count all the lies I caught Nizkor's Ken McVay in? I count three!
How will Ken McVay and his minions respond? They will make personal attack as
usual! YOU ALL CAN COUNT ON IT!
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
DOC
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
<57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com>
<nv441u4mv7amprppp...@4ax.com>
<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
<pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com>
<62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com>
<tge51ucvhnb2go7gu...@4ax.com>
<vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As further proof here is what a GOOGLE web search showed up:
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
[...]
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Do the lurkers see that Ken Lewis has problems with facts?
Notice that all Ken Lewis has is personal attack!
Remain the pathological personality you are Lewis because you're entertaining
and you only help kill any credibility you may have!
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
USA
[...]
<end>
[...]
<end>
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
<end>
Doc Tavish
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
DOC
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As further proof here is what a GOOGLE web search showed up:
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
[...]
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Do the lurkers see that Ken Lewis has problems with facts?
Notice that all Ken Lewis has is personal attack!
Remain the pathological personality you are Lewis because you're entertaining
and you only help kill any credibility you may have!
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
USA
[...]
<end>
[...]
<end>
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
<end>
Doc Tavish
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
DOC
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As further proof here is what a GOOGLE web search showed up:
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
[...]
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Do the lurkers see that Ken Lewis has problems with facts?
Notice that all Ken Lewis has is personal attack!
Remain the pathological personality you are Lewis because you're entertaining
and you only help kill any credibility you may have!
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
USA
[...]
<end>
[...]
<end>
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
<end>
Doc Tavish
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
DOC
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
As further proof here is what a GOOGLE web search showed up:
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
[...]
<STOP>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Do the lurkers see that Ken Lewis has problems with facts?
Notice that all Ken Lewis has is personal attack!
Remain the pathological personality you are Lewis because you're entertaining
and you only help kill any credibility you may have!
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
USA
[...]
<end>
[...]
<end>
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com> <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
<end>
Doc Tavish
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
Ken Lewis
You are indeed both as your moroic posts prove over and over.
Ken Lewis
You are indeed both as your posts make obvious.
T-A-V
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
---
T-A-V
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
<57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com>
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<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
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<tge51ucvhnb2go7gu...@4ax.com>
<vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
proves that you are attempting to project your own character flaws on me!
In his own words for the stupid one (Ken Lewis):
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
I changed the news groups to which my intelligent
and truthful reply is made to.
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even after I showed you exactly what Nizkor's own web site showed you continued
in your denial like the G.D. pathetic fool you continually remain to be!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=9sbgntodvi45kf5j71d86pa363r91jjbn6%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: Ken Lewis' Obvious Mental Problems and Denial of Fact. Nizkor has a
Trust Fund ...
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:55:52 -0500
Message-ID: <9sbgntodvi45kf5j7...@4ax.com>
References: <29bfac89fafc7e5a...@melontraffickers.com>
<3b786d82...@news.easynews.com> <9l3uq3$74cbs$1...@ID-62889.news.dfncis.de>
<ZeKd7.3903$5d4.1...@monger.newsread.com>
<sh1fnto68d0k1rvbe...@4ax.com> <szkn154...@bermuda.io.com>
<pu2gnt8du3v3t9j1p...@4ax.com>
<3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:17:20 GMT, <3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:17:20 GMT, <3b791933...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
[...]
<STOP>
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
Doc Tavish
T-A-V
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
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retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
---
T-A-V
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
<57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com>
<nv441u4mv7amprppp...@4ax.com>
<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
<pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com>
<62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com>
<tge51ucvhnb2go7gu...@4ax.com>
<vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
[...]
<STOP>
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
Doc Tavish
REPOST BECAUSE OF FORGEDD CANCEL
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Lines: 40
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
---
REPOST BECAUSE OF FORGEDD CANCEL
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.xganon.com>
<57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com>
<nv441u4mv7amprppp...@4ax.com>
<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
<pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com>
<62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com>
<tge51ucvhnb2go7gu...@4ax.com>
<vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
[...]
<STOP>
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
Doc Tavish
P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
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message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
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The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
---
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Organization: Electric Zen
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<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
<pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com>
<62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com>
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message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
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29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
[...]
<STOP>
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
Doc Tavish
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,can.general,can.taxes
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Lines: 40
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
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"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
---
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>has long since severed its ties.
>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
Kenneth McVay, OBC
I doubt it, and he's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
longer, and hasn't been for some time.
--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
D_O_C__T_A_V_I_S_H
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<57041u8sc3ho9p371...@4ax.com>
<nv441u4mv7amprppp...@4ax.com>
<7ac41ukoejc3ar7pb...@4ax.com>
<ktc41uo41u3cr5ckb...@4ax.com>
<pof41usn3r9anfr4u...@4ax.com>
<62t41uoad010qck2v...@4ax.com>
<tge51ucvhnb2go7gu...@4ax.com>
<vci51uoj2i1mkrdr2...@4ax.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same method applied to "References:" works too!
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:17:11 GMT, <3c130109....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:28:42 -0600, Doc Tavish
><REMOVE-CA...@ix.netcom.comTO-MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Ken McVay is a proven and documented liar!
>
>>>Even if that were true,
:
>>It is true. I have made plenty of recent postings showing Ken McVay's postings
>>back to back and conflicting with themselves. Care to deny that he can't get his
>>"facts" together about those bucks from The San Antonio Area Foundation?
:
>The FACT is that Ken has repeatedly stated he has never received a
>dime from the San Antonio Are Foundation. He is now in no way
>associated with the Sab Antonio Area Foundation.
>
>Please show me where Ken has ever stated differently, you lying moral
>cretin.
I am not a liar nor am I a moral cretin. In fact the documented info I will show
[...]
[...]
I got:
<end>
Fre...@pizza.slice (a troll) wrote:
CANADA
THE UNITED STATES
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
Excess headers deleted.
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
[...]
<STOP>
>>>it would not be proof of your accusations of
>>>criminal behaviours like tax avoidance and money laundering.
:
>>What do you call it when a person "requests" exempt donations he's not entitled
>>to receive and then he has a religious organization to front exempt donations
:
>He is certainly entitled to received those donations.
If he were really entitled to those donations then why does he need a money
changer! For a fact his web site is not allowed to solicit exempt donations
because it is not a registered charity and it doesn't fall under the guidelines
for a Non-Profit Organization. IOW he uses a money launderer to get funds he's
not entitled to!
>If you do not like it you may move to Canada and lobby for a change in the law.
Too socialist for my liking. Thanks but no thanks.
>By the way, CCRA is laughing at you.
That is always the line you vermin use. Care to name some names?
BTW here are some last minute bonuses to cause you pain:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Mr. Giwer, upon agreement to participate, shall deposit the full cost of the
laboratory analysis, as specified by the laboratory chosen to perform the test,
with a recognized trust accountant.
If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation....
~~End of NIZKOR Archive~~
I thought you vermin have denied that S.A.A.F. has handled funding for NIZKOR
but look above! OUCH I bet that was like getting slapped upside your head with a
black jack!
How about this?
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
Last Update:
November 2nd, 2001
USA
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
100 Raoul Wallenberg Place SW, Washington DC 20024-2126
http://www.ushmm.org
[...]
The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216
http://www.mazal.org
<end>
OUCH! Another slap upside your head with a black jack! You have a lot of lumps
on that hard head of yours you vermin! :-)
BTW the vermin you lie for denies that he and his Jews monitor the Internet but
look at this:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/audit-96/audit96.htm
(Link active December 9, 2001)
Presented by
The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada
[...]
"The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose educational
curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way, the transmission of
hateful messages. The League is working closely with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project
(http://www.nizkor.org) through the "Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and
Nizkor have prepared a workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected
Readings to assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a B'nai Brith
Canada web site facilitates the dissemination of information to counter hate and
also provides a means of reporting incidents directly to the National Office."
<end>
I thought Ken McVay denied that his Jews spy on people! Look at this post:
From: The Informer <REMOVE-CAPS-T...@ix.netcom.comNO-SPAM>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The
Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:12:29 -0600
Message-ID: <eai21ukbe5mg6bn84...@4ax.com>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith ..."?
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
~~End of Cited Reference Post~~
Notice to all people reading this post now and to those who will come across it
in the future- I HOPE YOU SEE WHO THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM ARE! I HOPE YOU
ALL SEE WHO RELIES ON LIES AND SMEARS! I HOPE THE MAJOR POPULACE WILL WAKE UP TO
THIS DANGER BT THESE VERMIN. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR
INTERESTS AT HEART. THEY WANT A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION AS THEY HAVE
ALWAYS WANTED. THEY HAVE MERELY CHANGED THEIR TERMS!
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
Doc Tavish
Fraud Watch
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>soc.culture.canada
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
>I doubt it, and he's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
Anyone who exposes your masters as being the dog shit they truly are- are always
called "anti-semites." Name calling is about all you terminal losers have these
days!
Doc Tavish
--
Double standards exposed by Tom Moran
"Jews running around the United States in a frenzy demanding that
Christian symbols not be displayed on public lands is not
anti-Christianism. Ridiculing the Jews for running all around the
United States demanding that Christian symbols not be displayed is
"anti-Semitism". Now that is typical Jewishness." Tom Moran 12/20/2001
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Ken Lewis
No, you ignorant putz! I meant what I wrote. B'nai Brith and B'nai
B'rith are two seperate organizations.
You have been given enough information that even a slug should be able
to figure this out so even someone with your limited intelligence
should be able to answer this. Now figure it out and get back to me
you gutless, lying, sack of shit.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[Blubberblather flushed down the Bradbury]
>No, you ignorant putz! I meant what I wrote. B'nai Brith and B'nai
>B'rith are two seperate organizations.
And, as the ADL pointed out to me, the ADL and B'nai B'rith are two
separate organizations, too.
>You have been given enough information that even a slug should be able
>to figure this out so even someone with your limited intelligence
>should be able to answer this. Now figure it out and get back to me
>you gutless, lying, sack of shit.
He hasn't the brains of a slug, which is why he won't figure it out.
He's much too busy crawling around in his own slime, waiting for
someone to pour the salt on him.
--
"Hate propaganda is an attack on the truth-seeking process itself.
It is directed to subverting and undermining the search for truth."
(David Matas, Bloody Speech, p. 37)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
Fraud Watch
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:02:00 -0600, Fraud Watch
><t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC), <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>>>soc.culture.canada
>>>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>>>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>>Lines: 24
>>>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
>>><9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net> <dkp12u8egcb6dfahh...@4ax.com>
>>><3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
>>>
>>>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>>>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
:
>>Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
>>"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
>>is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
>>assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
>>will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
>>who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
>>all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
:
>No, you ignorant putz! I meant what I wrote. B'nai Brith and B'nai
>B'rith are two seperate organizations.
You really are mentally challenged aren't you? Were you an abuser of
hallucinogenic drugs in your youth?
>You have been given enough information that even a slug should be able
>to figure this out so even someone with your limited intelligence
>should be able to answer this. Now figure it out and get back to me
>you gutless, lying, sack of shit.
Me lying? It is you and McVay lying with such as this:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews ...
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
I merely posted what they, themselves, have at their web site which shows you're
all mouth.
Once again because I know you are slow and you are a dullard:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
Ken McVay also showed his ignorance with:
>[H]e's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
Some more lies made by Ken McVay exposed for the archives!
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Followup-To: alt.revisionism
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
>
>>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
>>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show.
>>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>>
>>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
Ken McVay, proven liar quipped:
>>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>>making that clear.
and from the same post:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> also wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League .... defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
Ken McVay, challenged:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
New material which takes the place of previously presented material:
From Nizkor's own web site and this pretty well slam dunks McVay's challenge:
"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it
were," McVay said. "They have an agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they
are lying <you're the one who has been caught lying!!> about a specific issue, I
can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I've
done them some harm." ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."
Comments between < and > were mine!
Regarding: "B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the anti-Net-Nazi
spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net.." I thought McVay
claimed (as shown above): "Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy
free speech." but as we all know- McVay knows who butters his bread so he bows
before his masters: "B'nai Brith, incidentally ... collects donations for the
Nizkor Project." What does that tell you all sports fans? McVay is a "kept
whore."
-------
http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.html
Do Your Student Members Want to Help ADL Fight Hate on the Internet?
As a vehicle for spreading hate, the Internet is more powerful than anything
extremists of past decades could have imagined. Using the World Wide Web,
electronic bulletin boards, chat rooms and E-mail, anti-Semites and racists
voice their ideas, hoping to recruit new supporters. Bigots also employ the
Internet to communicate with each other. Often, extremists invade the space of
unsuspecting Internet users to spread their message. Propagandists send
unsolicited E-mail messages to thousands, post off-topic messages to USENET
newsgroups, and seek to dominate the bulletin boards at mainstream Web sites.
What can be done about hate on the Internet? Practically and legally, combating
online extremism is enormously difficult. ADL does not believe that censorship
is the answer, supporting the free speech guarantees embodied in the First
Amendment of the United States Constitution. Believing that the best way to
combat hateful speech is with more speech, ADL continuously monitors and
documents Internet hate. By communicating its findings, ADL promotes public
awareness of the plans and history of online bigots. It is the League's view
that exposure will lead to rejection of haters and their propaganda.
THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE IS SEEKING STUDENT MEMBERS OF HILLEL WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN HELPING US MONITOR HATE ON THE INTERNET.
If your students are interested, all they need is a computer with Internet
access and the desire to volunteer time. Volunteers can monitor the Internet on
their own, wherever and whenever they choose. Information collected by
volunteers will be transmitted to ADL via E-mail using the attached "ADL-Hillel
Online Hate Reporting Form." Student volunteers will receive confirmation when
their reports are received and a special, periodic newsletter on the state of
hate online.
The Anti-Defamation League is requesting that volunteers monitor
publicly-available information on the Internet only. We are particularly
interested in finding out about threats of action, announcements of upcoming
events, specific information about extremist individuals, written attacks on
well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted comments on current
events, and links to new hateful Web sites. Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties. ... Combating hate
on the Internet is a daunting task. Despite this, we must find a way to respond.
You and your students can play an important part by helping ADL. Please contact
us today! <end>
I thought Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed that his masters don't monitor USENET which
his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone
at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
The above "LIE" is from this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?
http://www.models-research.ie/publications/art/99-6.html
... Usenet newsgroups such as alt.politics.white-power offer an opportunity to
recruit new members. Postings from newcomers can be followed up with contact by
direct email to encourage the newcomers to feel part of the racist community.
... However, neo-nazis visiting a newsgroup need not engage in the conflict;
they can just post messages asking for sympathisers to contact them directly by
email. ... Using email, they are out of the limelight and safe from sanction by
other Internet users. ... A number of voluntary organisations, such as
Hatewatch, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL),
monitor and document hate activities on the Internet. <end>
BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.
http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/2609_12.asp
"[A]nti-Semites and racists are using the Internet to recruit new members, get
their message out and open new channels of communication among sympathizers, a
report just released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reveals. Hate Group
Recruitment On the Internet shows how extremists are exploiting the technology
of the Internet, including the World Wide Web and USENET, to attract supporters
... the ADL leaders said. "The message is clear: we must monitor it..."
Looks like McVay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!
Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): "[Y]ou have no evidence
whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
How about this ADL page content?
http://www.adl.org/mwd/m1.htm
". Important! More and more people are erroneously coming to think that all
information can be found on the World Wide Web. It cannot. Although there are a
number of members of the militia movement active in Usenet ..." <end>
The ADL gives out some of the militia links and people they monitor!
If you are "militia" these devils most likely have a file on YOU!
More on how people are being "spyed" on by Jews:
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
Usenet newsgroups-on-line community discussion bulletin boards-also contribute
to the proliferation of publicly visible anti-Semitic hate on-line. Anyone with
access can read and send messages to the newsgroups. To read or post messages to
a group, the user simply uses the newsreader program provided by most Internet
services. The number of messages posted to the newsgroups is staggering; upwards
of 60,000,000 a year and growing! Considering these numbers, it is not
surprising that tens of thousands of anti-Semitic rants show up each year and
1996 was no exception. Unlike the World Wide Web, where the user must seek out a
site, haters on the Usenet can send their messages, unsolicited, to any group.
... Some groups such as alt.politics.nationalism.white or alt.revisionism are
specifically designed to provide a discussion area for bigots and anti-Semites.
Here one finds the traditional themes of anti-Semites: deicide; Jews in control
of banks, the government and the media; Jews as destroyers of culture. A newer
wrinkle is the claim that the Holocaust is a fiction-a Jewish/Zionist plot to
extort money and power.
... Newsgroup hate messages are more like anonymous phone calls or letters that
can be sent simultaneously to hundreds or thousands of people. (To be consistent
with past practice, the ADL Audit counts such simultaneous hate messages as one
incident.) ... <end>
Need I say more?
Ken Lewis
<t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
for the first time you moral cretin.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[TubbyBlubber flushed down the ol' Ellis]
>What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
>difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
>for the first time you moral cretin.
Of course he's not up to the challenge. He hasn't got the brain of a
gnat.
Let's see if we can confuse BlubberTubby again:
1. B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
organizations.
2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations.
3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
organizations.
[Reaching for the handle, to be ready to flush BlatherBlubber down the
Ellis once again tomorrow....]
Fresh sourdough in the morning, old son... pity you'll miss it :-)
--
"Denial of Science & The Science of Denial"
The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial
Dennis G.
<t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
(...)
>Need I say more?
>
> Doc Tavish
>
Absolutely not!!!
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
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>In article <3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber flushed down the ol' Ellis]
Can't refute it so you just delete it!
>>What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
>>difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
>>for the first time you moral cretin.
Name call and personal attack is about all you people have left isn't it?
>Of course he's not up to the challenge. He hasn't got the brain of a
>gnat.
We shall see how I counter your personal attacks.
>Let's see if we can confuse BlubberTubby again:
Name calling won't win BUT facts surely do!
>1. B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
> organizations.
Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
> organizations.
What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
> organizations.
What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
(Link active December 21, 2001)
"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
International Affairs."
IOW both B'nai Brith AND B'nai B'rith claim respectively:
"Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" AND "Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of
B’nai B’rith.." Care to deny it? Care to deny their agendas are different?
I could care less about an extra apostrophe!
>[Reaching for the handle, to be ready to flush BlatherBlubber down the
>Ellis once again tomorrow....]
>
>Fresh sourdough in the morning, old son... pity you'll miss it :-)
When all you have left is personal attack then what can be said of your
platform? You're a loser big time!
BTW Ken McVay is the manner of reply you show above and all the other posts you
make concerning me exposing you is what The Vancouver Sun meant when they
falsely claimed (as documented at YOUR web site):
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."
See my comments in the < and > symbols!? The post I am replying to shows how
they lied about your methods when they stated: "Ken McVay, a British Columbian
who runs the Nizkor Project, a massive on- line archive that documents and
refutes.." and "Nizkor's Web site ... responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section.."
How is exposing you for what you are is a "hate post"? You're a liar and I prove
it again and again! Live with it Belial.
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
wrote:
>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
Bradshit AGAIN proves he is a totally ignorant jackass and is
incapable of reading anything correctly.
Try reading again, fool. "Working in co-operative association." It
has already been explained to you that they are distinctly seperate
entities.
Are you incapable of reading? Unable to understand? Wish to remain
ignorant?
Keep it up you sack of shit. You keep proving yourself a total idiot
much better than I could ever do.
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, <1mk72ugkkj37kb9d9...@4ax.com>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
It now appears that they are the same except for one is Canadian and calls
itself: League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada" whereas the American
version calls itself: "B'nai B'rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y.,
10017" Is there any doubt that they don't have the same agenda and share the
same resources? They both claim to have an "Anti-Defamation League" too!
>Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
I don't know about that now. It is beginning to look like they are one and the
same! I show new material below!
>>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
:
>>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001)
>"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
>League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
>International Affairs."
Notice that both links I gave above have the same home page link of:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/
Exploring further I noticed that B'nai Brith of Canada the commonality of
B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith as I show here.
(Note all links active December 21, 2001 for verification)
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#5
"Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (USA)
The League for Human Rights is the sole Canadian distributor for materials
published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith, 823 United
Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y., 10017. For a listing of ADL materials, including
resources on hate/bias crime, hate groups in America and materials for
multicultural education, see the Anti-Defamation League Material Resource
Catalogue(s) available, free of charge, from the League for Human Rights,
15 Hove Street,
Downsview, ON M3H 4Y8,
Phone (416) 633-6224, Fax: (416) 630-2159." EXACT QUOTE!!
Notice the B'nai B'rith is referred to as: "Anti Defamation League of B'nai
B'rith (USA)"? Now notice the address for B'nai Brith Canada which is:
League for Human Rights,
15 Hove Street,
Downsview, ON M3H 4Y8
Now where have we seen that before? Here it is:
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
<end>
The addresses are one and the same!
Now from this same web page:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
We see listed: B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Publications http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#three
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs.
Which also shows:
Hate on the Internet: Selected Readings (1995) $7.00
Compiled by Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project (an internet network to
counter Holocaust denial) and Dr. Karen Mock, National Director of the League
for Human Rights, this collection includes articles, clippings and excerpts from
the net, to document the current state of the transmission of hate propaganda
via the internet.
Another link at the same site shows:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives.." EXACT QUOTE
I thought Ken Mcvay claimed (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two
completely separate organizations" YET B'nai Brith claims (as shown above):
"Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its
goals.." which deep sixes Ken McVay's claim!
The only difference I see between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith is one is
Canadian and the other is American and the American version seems to be the
head honcho of all of them!!
Here is another Canadian B'nai Brith link:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-00.htm
which shows:
B'nai B'rith International
http://www.bnaibrith.org/
The link above shows the link has changed and it diverts to:
http://bbi.koz.com/servlet/bbi_ProcServ
By clicking on the link in the left hand column labeled:"
"Contact Us" which is this link: http://bbi.koz.com/bbi/contactus
You will see:
Contact B'nai B'rith
The following is an updated directory of e-mail addresses for all major B'nai
B'rith offices and groups around the world. Please send any changes or additions
to webm...@bnaibrith.org.
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: Notice the American B'nai B'rith
(International) has the extra apostrophe.>>
United States Regions
New England newen...@bnaibrith.org
[...]
International Districts
B nai B rith Argentina bn...@einstein.com.ar
B nai B rith Australia/New Zealand bbm...@ozmail.com
B nai B rith Brazil bra...@bnai-brith.org.br
B nai B rith Canada b...@bnaibrith.ca
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: Notice that those examples do not have
apostrophes at all BUT notice the e-mail address of the Canadian branch of B'nai
B'rith International is: b...@bnaibrith.ca>>
Back to B'nai Brith Canada's web page:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
scroll down to the very bottom and you will see:
"B'nai Brith Canada (b...@bnaibrith.ca)" which is the same e-mail address B'nai
B'rith International gave for its Canadian branch! It is painfully obvious that
B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are actually one and the same- one is the
International Office and the other is an offshoot branch and that is why they
both can say: "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" AND "Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith.."
B'nai B'rith Jewish Community Camp
http://www.bbcamp.ca/
B’nai B’rith Israel Joseph Niego Lodge No.3081
http://www.geocities.com/bnaibrithisrael/contact.html
<END>
http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: I guess Seattle Community College is
wrong too seeing how they show: "Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith" when Ken
McVay said (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely
separate organizations."
<END>
Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
The above statement from McVay's very own web site slam dunks McVay's claim (as
shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations."
Another Nizkor link shows:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-005-05
"Archive/File: orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence hmv-005-05
Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
111. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report,
Hate Crimes Statutes: A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-
Defamation League, 1992), pp. 4-5."
<end>
Here is a Swiss Branch of the ADL
http://www.juden.ch/
This link translates the text from Swiss to English:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.juden.ch/&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2BB%2527nai%2BB%2527rith%2BADL%26num%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
The B'nai B'rith Augustin cellar loge was created on 23 May 1909 in Zurich. It
is a combination in the sense of art. 60 FF of the ZGB. In Switzerland the
members of this association united to "brother shank", in order to carry out the
ideals of B'nai B'rith in the region Zurich. B'nai B'rith was created 1843 in
the USA and is the largest world-wide active Jewish organization.
[...]
The anti- Defamation League, briefly ADL, is a human right organization. It was
created 1913 by a small group of men in Chicago, who had their Urprung in
another organization, the B'nai B'rith (B'nai B'rith and are called "sons of the
federation" are Hebrew). ...
[...]
The ADL grew since its establishment crucially. There are today 29
professionally occupied office places in the USA, as well as branches in
Jerusalem, Rome, Canada and Latin America. ...
<end>
Notice the Swiss branch of the ADL ties the ADL to B'nai B'rith which counters
Ken McVay's claim (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely
separate organizations."
Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
October 25,1995
<end>
Looks like the above disagrees with Ken McVay's claim (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/membership/intro.html
"Since 1843 generations of Jewish people around the world have been helping
others in need through their membership and activities in B nai B rith
International. ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B nai B rith is the
International role model for organizations fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and
prejudice." .... Please fill out the B'nai B'rith Online Membership Application
<end>
Strange that B'nai B'rith International sometimes leaves out those apostrophes
and then sometimes it doesn't!
http://www.stopthehate.org/get_involved/community/inform/statewide_resources.php
Massachusetts Statewide Resources for Civil Rights/Hate Crime Assistance
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) in Boston is the only civil
rights organization that deals with anti-Semitism as its first priority.
<end>
I thought McVay claimed (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
If they are "two completely separate organizations" then why is the
name of "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith" used? They hardly look
like "two completely separate organizations"!
See how easy it is to expose McVay and his diversions?!
http://bnaibrith.org/bbemail.html
The following is an updated directory of e-mail addresses for all major B'nai
B'rith offices and groups around the world.
[...]
District 22 Canada
(Toronto) ......b...@bnaibrith.ca
[...]
Major Agencies & Offices
President's Office .........
[...]
The B'nai B'rith Foundation .............. found...@bnaibrith.org
[...]
ADL Headquarters ........................... webm...@adl.org
<end>
Looks like B'nai B'rith claims ADL as one of its own as all the other supporting
documentation proves!!
http://bnaibrith.org/world/index.html
B'nai B'rith Around the World
http://bnaibrith.org/world/d22.html
B'nai B'rith Canada covers the areas of:
Canada
It is located at:
15 Hove Street, Suite 200
Downsview, ON Canada M3H 4Y8
Office: 416-633-6224
Fax: 416-630-2159
E-mail: b...@bnaibrith.ca
Click here to find a B'nai B'rith office in the United States near you.
http://bnaibrith.org/off.html
B'nai B'rith's Chesapeake Bay Region Washington D.C. office services the
following area:
District of Columbia
Maryland
Virginia
It is located at:
1640 Rhode Island Avenue N.W.
Washington D.C. 20036
Phone: (202) 857-6589
Fax: (202) 857-6609
<end>
Notice that B'nai B'rith is the spelling for both the Canadian and American
versions! They are actually one and the same!
Another Ex-Clinton Administration link:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/textonly/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
I am honored to share the stage with Lisa and Ilsa Klinghoffer ...
<end>
http://www.nwrel.org/cnorse/booklets/harassment/10.html
Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory
[...]
Organizations
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL). A World of Difference Institute,
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, NY
10017.
<end>
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1058/18_117/62923904/p1/article.jhtml?term=%2BAnti-Defamation+%2BLeague+%2Bof+%2BB%27nai+%2BB%27rith+%2BCases
ADL will appeal $10.5 million judgment.(Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
to appeal ruling it defamed Roman Catholic couple it accused of
anti-Semitism)(Brief Article)
Issue: June 7, 2000
<end>
I also posted that news item in this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9a6qcd61k8h%40news2.newsguy.com
From: RA...@NAM.COM (RAMBO)
Subject: Will Larry Admit Being a Nitwit? ADL Was Sued for Defamation
Date: 1 Apr 2001 08:54:37 GMT
Message-ID: <9a6qc...@news2.newsguy.com>
Now here are some examples of ADL of B'nai Brith:
http://www.isranet.org/DataBank/b.htm
Middle East & Jewish World Databank
B’NAI BRITH
B’nai Brith- ADL [Anti-Defamation League] [see "Anti-Defamation League [ADL] of
B’nai Brith]"
B’nai Brith [Canada]- League for Human Rights
B’nai Brith [U.S.]
<end>
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1992/040992a.htm
Silence on Pollard Case Hurts Us as Well as Him
Jacob Seidenberg - Broward Jewish World - April 9, 1992
On September 10, 1991, the second day of Rosh HaShana, Jonathan Pollard's appeal
to withdraw his guilty plea was heard in the U.S. Court of Appeals by a panel of
three judges, two of whom were Jewish. More than six months later, on March 20,
1992, the appeal was rejected, 2 to 1, the non-Jewish judge casting the minority
vote. ... In the six-plus years since Jonathan's arrest, major Jewish
organizations, such as B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation league of B'nai Brith
(ADL) ...
<end>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adl-watch/links
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith has sued the American Indian
Anti-Defamation Council
they think they own the words "anti-defamation."
http://nativenet.uthscsa.edu/archive/nl/9212/0113.html
<end>
http://www.kellogg.nwu.edu/student/club/kadima/Links.htm
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
ADL Reports: Holocaust Denial, An Online Guide
"Anti-Semitism Masquerading as History"
<end>
http://www.congregationshalom.org/resources/resources.htm
Congregation Shalom is a member of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations
(UAHC).
Other sites which may be of interest include:
B'nai Brith Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
<end>
http://ethics.acusd.edu/resources/cases/CaseDetail.asp?ID=53
"Deeply disturbed, David's parents contact the B'nai Brith Anti Defamation
League ((ADL), a group devoted to combating anti-Semitism). After verifying that
Pleasantville High School's library in fact has a shelf copy of The Protocols of
the Elders of Zion, the ADL lodges a furiously angry protest with the Principal
of Pleasantville High School..."
<end>
Looks like the "B'nai Brith Anti Defamation League ((ADL)" is into book banning
which is their agenda!
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_23.html
5.1.2.1 Specific Hate Crime Laws
The model for this kind of law is, in large part, that proposed by the
Anti-Defamation League (ADL). Its model legislation provides for crimes of
institutional vandalism and intimidation; a civil action that is available to a
victim for injury or damage to property arising out of this criminal conduct;
and requirements for the collection, reporting and use of information about hate
crimes by police officers and for the training of police officers in order to
identify such crimes.[111]
Footnotes:
[111] Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes
Statutes: A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), pp.
4-5.
<END>
There are many more proofs too but why bother? Ken McVay and Ken Lewis are
merely trying to create a diversion from the fact that ADL, B'nai Brith and
Nizkor are all partners in monitoring USENET among other Internet "institutions"
such as these two posts faithfully prove:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com&num=20&hl=en
From: Fraud Watch <t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Spin Doctors for His Masters- The Jews aka Re: The
ADL & B'nai B'rith: A Correction
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600
Message-ID: <2td42uosdf5sjgpra...@4ax.com>
References: <9vtahn$r2a$1...@news.tht.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=fn652u4naf69nr4lj...@4ax.com&num=20&hl=en
From: Fraud Watch <t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
Subject: MUST READ V2.0 Supplement- Nizkor's Ken McVay Spin Doctors for His
Masters- The Jews (Corrected Second Version)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:17:20 -0600
Message-ID: <fn652u4naf69nr4lj...@4ax.com>
To be guilty of "anti-Semitic hate speech" one only needs to do:
"written attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted
comments on current events ..." (among other things and here is where the ADL
wants their "Gestapo" to spy: "Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties.")
http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.html
Need I say more? I wonder if the Yids at ADL think their own teachings are "hate
speech" such as the example in my sig line?
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk The Two Kens Again! aka Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in
Denial About B'nai Brith and ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 04:41:52 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c270e1d....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<3c228d80...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
<sh952u4r81ogvatof...@4ax.com>
<3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca> <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
<1mk72ugkkj37kb9d9...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 04:41:52 GMT, <3c270e1d....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, _Nizkor's Nemesis_
><t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
>wrote:
:
>>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
:
>Bradshit AGAIN proves he is a totally ignorant jackass and is
>incapable of reading anything correctly.
>
>Try reading again, fool. "Working in co-operative association." It
>has already been explained to you that they are distinctly seperate
>entities.
Here is what you and McVay have claimed:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
><3c228d80...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
><sh952u4r81ogvatof...@4ax.com>
><3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
> organizations.
<end of quoted passage>
I countered the bogus claim with (as shown above):
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
Back to your desperate personal attack:
>Bradshit AGAIN proves he is a totally ignorant jackass and is
>incapable of reading anything correctly.
>
>Try reading again, fool. "Working in co-operative association." It
>has already been explained to you that they are distinctly seperate
>entities.
The phrase: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" still slam dunks your
and McVay's claim of: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations." And that is a fact!
>Are you incapable of reading? Unable to understand? Wish to remain
>ignorant?
Obviously you are projecting your deficiencies on me!
>Keep it up you sack of shit. You keep proving yourself a total idiot
>much better than I could ever do.
You're the one being shown to be the idiot! Just because you can't read you have
to rely on personal attacks!
Doc Tavish
--
Scott, your postured indignation impresses no one. With your
obvious penis fetish, you're quite obviously either:
a) a teenager who needs a girlfriend;
b) impotent; or my favorite,
c) both.
Andrew Mathis
P.S. If you *are* underaged, by the way, I'd be more than happy to
meet you in a coffee shop as opposed to a place that serves alcohol.
-From: aem...@is2.nyu.edu
-Subject: Re: Jeffrey G. Brown Accuses BUT Can't Back His Charges..
-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:25:30 GMT
-Message-ID: <6t9u6a$o7u$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=6t9u6a%24o7u%2...@nnrp1.dejanews.com&hl=en
Nizkor's Nemesis
>Fraud Watch
><t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>
>(...)
Nlotice how my opposition won't reply an basis of facts!
>>Need I say more?
>>
>> Doc Tavish
:
>Absolutely not!!!
Can't let facts confuse your mind heh?
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
wrote:
>It now appears that they are the same except for one is Canadian and calls
>itself: League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada" whereas the American
>version calls itself: "B'nai B'rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y.,
>10017" Is there any doubt that they don't have the same agenda and share the
>same resources? They both claim to have an "Anti-Defamation League" too!
FINALLY. Except you still can't get it right. B'nai Brith is Canadian.
B'nai B'rith is American but they are seperate organizations.
Secondly, the League for Human Rights is an organization within B'nai
Brith not part of B'nai Brith's name so the Canadian one does NOT call
itself what you have claimed.
Were you born this stupid or did your mother drop you oon your head?
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
wrote:
>The phrase: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" still slam dunks your
>and McVay's claim of: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>organizations." And that is a fact!
This has been asked and answered, Bradbury, and been shown to you that
they are two seperate entities. You continue to lie about it. Go sleep
off your drunk.
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again! Will He Come Back For More? aka
Again! aka Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and ADL
Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his
Masters- The Jews ...
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c25d1b9...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:33:38 GMT, <3c25d1b9...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:33:39 -0600, _Nizkor's Nemesis_
><t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
>wrote:
>
>>The phrase: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" still slam dunks your
>>and McVay's claim of: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>>organizations." And that is a fact!
:
>This has been asked and answered, Bradbury, and been shown to you that
>they are two seperate entities.
YOU ARE WRONG! What the Jews, themselves, say slam dunks you!
>You continue to lie about it.
So you are now saying that YOUR Jews lie? I will show what they, themselves,
have at their web sites and what they show disagrees strongly with the myth you
cling to: "they are two seperate entities" regarding ADL and B'nai Brith.
>Go sleep off your drunk.
Personal attack is about all you have left isn't it?
Let the readers decide who is telling the truth and who is lying. You and McVay
maintain the notion: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations" and now I will show what other sources show and they show, more
or less: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" which hardly agrees with
your current claim of: "they are two seperate entities."
My proof and the same conflict now resume!
All links valid December 21, 2001 for verification purposes.
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, <1mk72ugkkj37kb9d9...@4ax.com>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC), <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>>In article <3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>
>>[TubbyBlubber flushed down the ol' Ellis]
:
>Can't refute it so you just delete it!
:
>>>What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
>>>difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
>>>for the first time you moral cretin.
:
>Name call and personal attack is about all you people have left isn't it?
:
>>Of course he's not up to the challenge. He hasn't got the brain of a
>>gnat.
:
>We shall see how I counter your personal attacks.
:
>>Let's see if we can confuse BlubberTubby again:
:
>Name calling won't win BUT facts surely do!
:
>>1. B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
It now appears that they are the same except for one is Canadian and calls
itself: League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada" whereas the American
version calls itself: "B'nai B'rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y.,
10017" Is there any doubt that they don't have the same agenda and share the
same resources? They both claim to have an "Anti-Defamation League" too!
>Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
I don't know about that now. It is beginning to look like they are one and the
same! I show new material below!
>>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
:
>>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001)
>"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
>League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
>International Affairs."
Notice that both links I gave above have the same home page link of:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/
<end>
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs.
Which also shows:
Hate on the Internet: Selected Readings (1995) $7.00
Compiled by Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project (an internet network to
counter Holocaust denial) and Dr. Karen Mock, National Director of the League
for Human Rights, this collection includes articles, clippings and excerpts from
the net, to document the current state of the transmission of hate propaganda
via the internet.
Another link at the same site shows:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives.." EXACT QUOTE
I thought Ken Mcvay claimed (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two
completely separate organizations" YET B'nai Brith claims (as shown above):
"Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its
You will see:
[...]
both can say: "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" AND "Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith.."
B'nai B'rith Jewish Community Camp
http://www.bbcamp.ca/
B’nai B’rith Israel Joseph Niego Lodge No.3081
http://www.geocities.com/bnaibrithisrael/contact.html
<END>
http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: I guess Seattle Community College is
wrong too seeing how they show: "Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith" when Ken
McVay said (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely
separate organizations."
<END>
Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
The above statement from McVay's very own web site slam dunks McVay's claim (as
shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations."
Another Nizkor link shows:
<end>
[...]
[...]
<end>
Ken McVay's claim (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely
separate organizations."
Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
<end>
<end>
I thought McVay claimed (as shown above):
[...]
[...]
Major Agencies & Offices
President's Office .........
[...]
[...]
ADL Headquarters ........................... webm...@adl.org
<end>
<end>
<end>
[...]
<end>
<end>
<end>
<end>
<end>
http://www.kellogg.nwu.edu/student/club/kadima/Links.htm
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
<end>
<end>
<end>
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_23.html
<END>
"written attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted
comments on current events ..." (among other things and here is where the ADL
wants their "Gestapo" to spy: "Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
Ken Lewis
<t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
Nothing. As usual.
Try reading this again, Bradshit.
<quote>
In order to check my facts with respect to the ADL's relationship with
B'nai B'rith, I wrote to the ADL and asked them for clarification.
I explained that I understood that the ADL was no longer a part of
B'nai B'rith, and this was the response I received:
"What you were told is not exactly correct. There has never been a
formal separation. Our corporate name is still the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai B'rith. ADL has ALWAYS been separately incorporated
and B'nai B'rith has provided no funds to ADL for many, many years.
ADL is vastly larger than its parent body in terms of staff and
budget."
"Perhaps some confusion exists because the offices of what is now the
Canadian League for Human Rights, affiliated with B'nai B'rith, used
to be two ADL offices in Canada. Going back some 30 years or so, we
'divested' ourselves of those offices. As I recall, there were some
rather complicated tax problems (but then I am depending upon a memory
that, while quite good, has not been called upon to provide details of
the closure of those ADL offices for almost three decades!)"
There you have it - the ADL operates within the B'nai B'rith umbrella
in the United States, but has no such existence in Canada (where the
organization is known as B'nai Brith), and I was in error when I said
that the ADL and B'nai B'rith had parted company.
However, as the letter points out, the two organizations have separate
legal existence, i.e. separate incorporation, and totally separate
funding.
</quote>
The two organizations have seperate legal existence. Are you able to
read that, blockhead?
Joe Bruno
Slamdunk?
Tavish, you are too inept to dunk a donut in a cup of coffee.
Joe Bruno
SW
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote in message
news:3c24d061...@news.abccom.bc.ca...
"Yes" to the first part, "repeatedly" to the second.
sw
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again and Again and Again! Will He Come Back
For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard Head He Is!
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
So what? Their web sites and others still say:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
We see listed: B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Publications http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#three
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith ...
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is ... Working in
co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through.."
You will see:
[...]
<END>
http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
<END>
Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
Another Nizkor link shows:
<end>
[...]
[...]
<end>
Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
October 25,1995
<end>
http://bnaibrith.org/membership/intro.html
"Since 1843 generations of Jewish people around the world have been helping
others in need through their membership and activities in B nai B rith
International. ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B nai B rith is the
International role model for organizations fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and
prejudice." .... Please fill out the B'nai B'rith Online Membership Application
<end>
Strange that B'nai B'rith International sometimes leaves out those apostrophes
and then sometimes it doesn't!
http://www.stopthehate.org/get_involved/community/inform/statewide_resources.php
Massachusetts Statewide Resources for Civil Rights/Hate Crime Assistance
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) in Boston is the only civil
rights organization that deals with anti-Semitism as its first priority.
<end>
Another Ex-Clinton Administration link:
<end>
[...]
<end>
<end>
http://www.isranet.org/DataBank/b.htm
<end>
<end>
<end>
<end>
<end>
<end>
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_23.html
<END>
Need I say more? The ADL is of B'nai Brith or they wouldn't constantly be
referred to as the "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" by others and
themselves.
I don't care if you all now claim: "The two organizations have separate legal
existence." It means nothing! Many corporations and groups have separate legal
existence because of taxes and liabilities BUT they all are connected in many
ways to each other!
If I said "Chevrolet of General Motors" would you claim they are two separate
organizations as you and Ken McVay have been claiming about the relationship of
ADL to B'nai Brith? Chevrolet is a division of General Motors and is part of it
just as the Jews do say: "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith"!
Keep being lame because you're a laugh a minute Ken!
Doc Tavish
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
Ken Lewis
<t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
So they didn't update their web site or someone put up the wrong
information. Big fucking deal. That doesn't mean they are not two
seperate legal entities.
Yo are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Le Mod Pol
excess newsgroups trimmed
to learn the posting and crossposting rules visit: ~
http://www.panix.com/~kingdon/usenet-us.html
What difference does it make to you whether ADL was
spun off or not?
Obviously nothing.
Do you think that they are cheating on their taxes?
Obviously not - as non profit charitable organizations
they are exempt from taxation but are regularly audited
nevertheless.
Oh! I get it --- These organizations and/or McVay or
Lewis has exposed your vicious hate filled lies so you
are off like Don Quixote tilting at the windmills to
get even.
Well - you might as well jump back into your slimepit
because you have no case and you should save your
energy for something constructive.
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis wrote:
>
bullshit snipped
It is possible to store the mind with a million facts
and still be entirely uneducated.
-- Alec Bourne
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
Subject: Tavish Fucks Pigs - Was Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Over and Over and
Over Again! Will He Come Back For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard
Head He Is!
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:26:48 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c25406...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <686a2u03c5lad2t4j...@4ax.com>
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:26:48 GMT, <3c25406...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:59:19 -0600, Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>>From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
>>Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again and Again and Again! Will He Come Back
>>For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard Head He Is!
>>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT
>>Organization: Electric Zen
>>Message-ID: <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>
>>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT, <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:16:27 -0600, Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
>>><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Nothing. As usual.
>>>
>>>Try reading this again, Bradshit.
>>>
>>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.revisionism+author:kenneth+author:mcvay&hl=en&rnum=5&selm=9vtahn%24r2a%241%40news.tht.net
>>>
>>><quote>
>>>
>>>In order to check my facts with respect to the ADL's relationship with
>>>B'nai B'rith, I wrote to the ADL and asked them for clarification.
>>>
>>>I explained that I understood that the ADL was no longer a part of
>>>B'nai B'rith, and this was the response I received:
>>>
>>>"What you were told is not exactly correct. There has never been a
>>>formal separation.
That is what I have maintained while you and McVay claim they have parted
company as shown here:
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
"B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
has long since severed its ties." <end>
>>>Our corporate name is still the Anti-Defamation
>>>League of B'nai B'rith.
Which is what I have been showing!!!
>>>ADL has ALWAYS been separately incorporated and B'nai B'rith has
>>>provided no funds to ADL for many, many years.
Big deal and they tell why below!
>>>ADL is vastly larger than its parent body in terms of staff and
>>>budget."
Notice the term "parent body"? It's like saying "Pontiac Motor Division of
General Motors." They may be separate "legal existences" but the parent
organization still calls the shots just like B'nai Brith International calls the
shots for all of its world-wide B'nai Brith branches!
>>>"Perhaps some confusion exists because the offices of what is now the
>>>Canadian League for Human Rights, affiliated with B'nai B'rith, used
>>>to be two ADL offices in Canada. Going back some 30 years or so, we
>>>'divested' ourselves of those offices. As I recall, there were some
>>>rather complicated tax problems
As many other groups and corporations do- they create separate legal existences
on account of taxes.
>>>(but then I am depending upon a memory that, while quite good, has not
>>>been called upon to provide details of the closure of those ADL offices
>>>for almost three decades!)"
>>>
>>>There you have it - the ADL operates within the B'nai B'rith umbrella
>>>in the United States,
Just as the FBI operates under the umbrella of the Justice Department-- the
Justice Department still calls the shots!
>>>but has no such existence in Canada (where the organization is known as
>>>B'nai Brith),
Not according to the B'nai Brith Canada web page I quote here:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
(Link active December 23, 2001)
"B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs."
The above link is B'nai Brith Canada and it shows: "The Anti-Defamation League
(ADL) of B’nai B’rith"!!
>>>and I was in error when I said that the ADL and B'nai B'rith had parted company.
Thanks for confirming that ADL and B'nai Brith have not parted company and
perhaps Ken Lewis and Ken McVay will stop being in a state of denial!
>>>However, as the letter points out, the two organizations have separate
>>>legal existence, i.e. separate incorporation, and totally separate
>>>funding.
For purposes of defending against liability which ADL lost $10.5 dollars in a
lawsuit against it by a Colorado couple recently and for tax reasons.
>>></quote>
>>:
>>>The two organizations have seperate legal existence. Are you able to
>>>read that, blockhead?
:
>>So what? Their web sites and others still say:
:
>So they didn't update their web site or someone put up the wrong
>information. Big fucking deal. That doesn't mean they are not two
>seperate legal entities.
I love how you continually make an ass of yourself when your spin doctoring and
diversions don't work as well as you plan. ROTFLMAO!
>Yo are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Everyone see how my opposition acts when they get slam dunked again and again!?
Name call and personal attack is ALL these pathetic losers have when they are
proven ignorant again and again!
A review for the archives:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT, <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>The two organizations have seperate legal existence. Are you able to
>read that, blockhead?
So what? Their web sites and others still say:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
You will see:
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http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_23.html
<END>
If I said "Chevrolet Motor Division of General Motors" would you claim they are
two separate organizations as you and Ken McVay have been claiming about the
relationship of ADL to B'nai Brith? Chevrolet is a division of General Motors
and is part of it just as the Jews do say: "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith"!
Stay lame Ken Lewis and if you were a capitalist minded person instead of a
socialist you would understand how corporations et al create separate legal
entities just for the sake of liabilty and taxes. It happens all the time in
America but I guess in Socialist Canada there aren't too many private
corporations left! :-)
BTW how does it feel to be continually slam dunked?
Doc Tavish
---I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
Joel Rosenberg
his names.
--
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There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun,
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.
-------------------------------------
Tavish is Joel Rosenberg's Nemesis
Joel Rosenberg <jo...@ellegon.com> wrote:
>Hmmm . . . I think I can type lafp[Enter] faster than Scotty can morph
>his names.
I am just keeping ahead of your fellow vermin, Larry Shiff, who likes canceling
my posts or sporging my nym to jam me. If you vermin would use such underhanded
tactics to deny people free speech and expression these measures would not be
necessary.
Doc Tavish
Joel Rosenberg
*plonk*
Le Mod Pol
Speaking of vermin it amazing that you have not got
your nose caught in a rat trap yet!!!!!!!!
T-a-v-i-s-h
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:02:00 -0600, Fraud Watch
><t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC), <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>>>soc.culture.canada
>>>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>>>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>>Lines: 24
>>>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
>>><9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net> <dkp12u8egcb6dfahh...@4ax.com>
>>><3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
>>>
>>>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>>>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
:
>>Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
>>"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
>>is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
>>assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
>>will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
>>who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
>>all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
:
>No, you ignorant putz! I meant what I wrote. B'nai Brith and B'nai
>B'rith are two seperate organizations.
You really are mentally challenged aren't you? Were you an abuser of
hallucinogenic drugs in your youth?
>You have been given enough information that even a slug should be able
>to figure this out so even someone with your limited intelligence
>should be able to answer this. Now figure it out and get back to me
>you gutless, lying, sack of shit.
Me lying? It is you and McVay lying with such as this:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews ...
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
I merely posted what they, themselves, have at their web site which shows you're
all mouth.
Once again because I know you are slow and you are a dullard:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
Ken McVay also showed his ignorance with:
>[H]e's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
Some more lies made by Ken McVay exposed for the archives!
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Followup-To: alt.revisionism
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it
were," McVay said. "They have an agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they
are lying <you're the one who has been caught lying!!> about a specific issue, I
can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I've
done them some harm." ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."
Comments between < and > were mine!
-------
events, specific information about extremist individuals, written attacks on
well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted comments on current
events, and links to new hateful Web sites. Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties. ... Combating hate
on the Internet is a daunting task. Despite this, we must find a way to respond.
You and your students can play an important part by helping ADL. Please contact
us today! <end>
I thought Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed that his masters don't monitor USENET which
his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone
at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
The above "LIE" is from this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
--
T-a-v-i-s-h
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>soc.culture.canada
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Lines: 24
>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
><9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net> <dkp12u8egcb6dfahh...@4ax.com>
><3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
>X-Trace: news.tht.net 1008833679 20673 216.126.72.25 (20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 GMT)
>X-Complaints-To: ne...@hub.org
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999)
>
>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
>I doubt it, and he's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
Anyone who exposes your masters as being the dog shit they truly are- are always
called "anti-semites." Name calling is about all you terminal losers have these
days!
T-a-v-i-s-h
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada..."
Now do you wish to retract your claim: "B'nai B'rith was the parent organization
that created the ADL, which has long since severed its ties." in light of what
B'nai Brith says: "Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith.."?
See how easy it is to catch Con Man McVay in his lies. Count all the lies I
catch Nizkor's Con Man in using the content of this post alone!
>In short, there is no connection between BB and the ADL,
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof above. Now live with the fact that you're
either ignorant or you're just a liar!
>and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
You're a liar McVay. I provide proof in extracts (which follow) I have
un-earthed.
>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
(Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
------------------------------------------------------------------------
B'nai B'rith
------------------------------------------------------------------------
LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin America a
Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison.
The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the southernmost
Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling and
resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he violated
the nation's constitution and penal code.
<I'd bet that Jews put great pressure on politicians to have this penal code
written and enacted! Tavish comment>
The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
<Mere words will get you prison! This is what McVay and his Jews
are up to on a global scale. Tavish comment>
"Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
society," said Abrao Lowenthal.
<It is NOT a democratic society but a communist one that imprisons
people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought Ellwanger
to trial.
<One only wonders how many other people in how many other nations
will eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
Neo-Bolshevist progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish comment>
Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
published 13 anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous
The Elders of the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International
Jew. One of Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
<END OF EXCERPT>
Everyone remember that the organization which channels funding to McVay works to
have people imprisoned in other countries! Proof that B'nai Brith is McVay's
money launderer:
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
FAIR USE INTENDED -- <Title 17 U.S.C. section 107>
[...]
>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>
>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>making that clear.
How about this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=1r8b5ton2fd134nbes57qs0g31nf5j8laj%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Here Is What Nizkor's PUPPETMASTER ADL Does With Info...
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Reply-To: doc_tavi...@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <1r8b5ton2fd134nbe...@4ax.com>
References: <932s4v$3it$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
<933399$1mds$1...@news.tht.net>
<9346ss$5ts$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:43:12 GMT
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification purposes.)
Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large. (In other words they are a Gestapo! Doc Tavish)
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.....
<end>
Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
BTW Ken here is proof your masters monitor USENET and in their own words too!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges. With
its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than ever --
opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World Wide
Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are rapidly
expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each other, preaching to
the vast majority of people who do not share their beliefs, raising funds and
threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and documents hundreds of extremist Web
sites as well as dozens of e-mail mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...."
Notice that your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying for
your MASTERS!
http://www.adl.org/adlhistory/1913_1920.html
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification.)
"...the Anti-Defamation League was established in 1913 by a lawyer and
fearless visionary by the name of Sigmund Livingston. Starting with only
two desks in Livingston's Chicago office, $200 and the sponsorship of the
Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.."
Need I say more other Nizkor's Ken McVay, ADL, and B'nai Brith are enemies of
FREE SPEECH!?
Did anyone count all the lies I caught Nizkor's Ken McVay in? I count three!
How will Ken McVay and his minions respond? They will make personal attack as
usual! YOU ALL CAN COUNT ON IT!
Doc Tavish
---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?
"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
Coward Shiff Watch
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>soc.culture.canada
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Lines: 24
>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
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><3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
>X-Trace: news.tht.net 1008833679 20673 216.126.72.25 (20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 GMT)
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>NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999)
>
>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
IIIII
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
<J_8Q7.19206$O3.21...@news1.telusplanet.net>
<uv821ug93r270reiv...@4ax.com>
<1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
"To retrieve/verify any archive(s) go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH. If you see such as this:
"Message-ID: <29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com>" just Copy 'N' Paste
29kcnt4u9p49k8s68...@4ax.com without the "<" and ">" and do as
I said to do above to retrieve the archive."
The same trick can be applied to the IDs listed in the "References" above.
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC), <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
:
>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>has long since severed its ties.
You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
I bet this will be like you getting slapped across your hard head with a black
jack!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
How about this?
<END OF EXCERPT>
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
[...]
How about this?
<end>
Doc Tavish
--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?
_
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
><3c228d80...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
><sh952u4r81ogvatof...@4ax.com>
><3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>
>In article <3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber flushed down the ol' Ellis]
Can't refute it so you just delete it!
>>What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
>>difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
>>for the first time you moral cretin.
Name call and personal attack is about all you people have left isn't it?
>Of course he's not up to the challenge. He hasn't got the brain of a
>gnat.
We shall see how I counter your personal attacks.
>Let's see if we can confuse BlubberTubby again:
Name calling won't win BUT facts surely do!
>1. B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
> organizations.
Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
> organizations.
What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
> organizations.
What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
(Link active December 21, 2001)
"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
International Affairs."
IOW both B'nai Brith AND B'nai B'rith claim respectively:
"Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" AND "Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of
B’nai B’rith.." Care to deny it? Care to deny their agendas are different?
I could care less about an extra apostrophe!
>[Reaching for the handle, to be ready to flush BlatherBlubber down the
>Ellis once again tomorrow....]
>
>Fresh sourdough in the morning, old son... pity you'll miss it :-)
When all you have left is personal attack then what can be said of your
platform? You're a loser big time!
BTW Ken McVay is the manner of reply you show above and all the other posts you
make concerning me exposing you is what The Vancouver Sun meant when they
falsely claimed (as documented at YOUR web site):
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."
See my comments in the < and > symbols!? The post I am replying to shows how
they lied about your methods when they stated: "Ken McVay, a British Columbian
who runs the Nizkor Project, a massive on- line archive that documents and
refutes.." and "Nizkor's Web site ... responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section.."
How is exposing you for what you are is a "hate post"? You're a liar and I prove
it again and again! Live with it Belial.
Doc Tavish
--
Double standards exposed by Tom Moran
"Jews running around the United States in a frenzy demanding that
Christian symbols not be displayed on public lands is not
anti-Christianism. Ridiculing the Jews for running all around the
United States demanding that Christian symbols not be displayed is
"anti-Semitism". Now that is typical Jewishness." Tom Moran 12/20/2001
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, <1mk72ugkkj37kb9d9...@4ax.com>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
It now appears that they are the same except for one is Canadian and calls
itself: League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada" whereas the American
version calls itself: "B'nai B'rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y.,
10017" Is there any doubt that they don't have the same agenda and share the
same resources? They both claim to have an "Anti-Defamation League" too!
>Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
I don't know about that now. It is beginning to look like they are one and the
same! I show new material below!
>>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
:
>>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001)
>"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
>League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
>International Affairs."
Notice that both links I gave above have the same home page link of:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/
Exploring further I noticed that B'nai Brith of Canada the commonality of
B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith as I show here.
(Note all links active December 21, 2001 for verification)
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#5
"Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (USA)
The League for Human Rights is the sole Canadian distributor for materials
published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith, 823 United
Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y., 10017. For a listing of ADL materials, including
resources on hate/bias crime, hate groups in America and materials for
multicultural education, see the Anti-Defamation League Material Resource
Catalogue(s) available, free of charge, from the League for Human Rights,
15 Hove Street,
Downsview, ON M3H 4Y8,
Phone (416) 633-6224, Fax: (416) 630-2159." EXACT QUOTE!!
Notice the B'nai B'rith is referred to as: "Anti Defamation League of B'nai
B'rith (USA)"? Now notice the address for B'nai Brith Canada which is:
League for Human Rights,
15 Hove Street,
Downsview, ON M3H 4Y8
Now where have we seen that before? Here it is:
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
<end>
The addresses are one and the same!
Now from this same web page:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
We see listed: B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Publications http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#three
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs.
Which also shows:
Hate on the Internet: Selected Readings (1995) $7.00
Compiled by Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project (an internet network to
counter Holocaust denial) and Dr. Karen Mock, National Director of the League
for Human Rights, this collection includes articles, clippings and excerpts from
the net, to document the current state of the transmission of hate propaganda
via the internet.
Another link at the same site shows:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives.." EXACT QUOTE
I thought Ken Mcvay claimed (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two
completely separate organizations" YET B'nai Brith claims (as shown above):
"Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its
goals.." which deep sixes Ken McVay's claim!
The only difference I see between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith is one is
Canadian and the other is American and the American version seems to be the
head honcho of all of them!!
Here is another Canadian B'nai Brith link:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-00.htm
which shows:
You will see:
[...]
both can say: "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" AND "Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith.."
B'nai B'rith Jewish Community Camp
http://www.bbcamp.ca/
B’nai B’rith Israel Joseph Niego Lodge No.3081
http://www.geocities.com/bnaibrithisrael/contact.html
<END>
http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: I guess Seattle Community College is
wrong too seeing how they show: "Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith" when Ken
McVay said (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely
separate organizations."
<END>
Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
The above statement from McVay's very own web site slam dunks McVay's claim (as
shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations."
Another Nizkor link shows:
<end>
[...]
[...]
<end>
Notice the Swiss branch of the ADL ties the ADL to B'nai B'rith which counters
Ken McVay's claim (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely
separate organizations."
Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
October 25,1995
<end>
Looks like the above disagrees with Ken McVay's claim (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/membership/intro.html
"Since 1843 generations of Jewish people around the world have been helping
others in need through their membership and activities in B nai B rith
International. ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B nai B rith is the
International role model for organizations fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and
prejudice." .... Please fill out the B'nai B'rith Online Membership Application
<end>
Strange that B'nai B'rith International sometimes leaves out those apostrophes
and then sometimes it doesn't!
http://www.stopthehate.org/get_involved/community/inform/statewide_resources.php
Massachusetts Statewide Resources for Civil Rights/Hate Crime Assistance
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) in Boston is the only civil
rights organization that deals with anti-Semitism as its first priority.
<end>
I thought McVay claimed (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
If they are "two completely separate organizations" then why is the
name of "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith" used? They hardly look
like "two completely separate organizations"!
See how easy it is to expose McVay and his diversions?!
http://bnaibrith.org/bbemail.html
The following is an updated directory of e-mail addresses for all major B'nai
B'rith offices and groups around the world.
[...]
[...]
Major Agencies & Offices
President's Office .........
[...]
[...]
ADL Headquarters ........................... webm...@adl.org
<end>
<end>
versions! They are actually one and the same!
<end>
[...]
<end>
<end>
Now here are some examples of ADL of B'nai Brith:
<end>
<end>
<end>
http://www.kellogg.nwu.edu/student/club/kadima/Links.htm
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
<end>
<end>
<end>
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/hmv/hate_23.html
<END>
"written attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted
comments on current events ..." (among other things and here is where the ADL
wants their "Gestapo" to spy: "Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties.")
http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.html
Need I say more? I wonder if the Yids at ADL think their own teachings are "hate
speech" such as the example in my sig line?
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
______________________________________________________________________
_
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>soc.culture.canada
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
>I doubt it, and he's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
Anyone who exposes your masters as being the dog shit they truly are- are always
called "anti-semites." Name calling is about all you terminal losers have these
days!
Doc Tavish
--
Double standards exposed by Tom Moran
"Jews running around the United States in a frenzy demanding that
Christian symbols not be displayed on public lands is not
anti-Christianism. Ridiculing the Jews for running all around the
United States demanding that Christian symbols not be displayed is
"anti-Semitism". Now that is typical Jewishness." Tom Moran 12/20/2001
Message-ID: <3c4802fc....@newsproxy.pacificnet.net>
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kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:02:00 -0600, Fraud Watch
><t--a-v-...@i--x.n--e-t--c-o-m.c-o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC), <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,bc.general,can.general,
>>>soc.culture.canada
>>>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>>>The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>>Lines: 24
>>>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
>>><9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net> <dkp12u8egcb6dfahh...@4ax.com>
>>><3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
>>>
>>>In article <3c213bb5...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:37 -0600, P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
>>>><t-a-v-...@ix.ne-tco-m.co-m-RemoveHyphensToMail> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>>>has long since severed its ties.
:
>>>>>You're a liar McVay. ADL and B'nai Brith have NOT severed their ties!
:
>>>>Now, Bradshit, we will try to educate you further. B'nai B'rith and
>>>>B'nai Brith are two different entities. Can you figure out why?
:
>>Look who is talking about educating who especially when you just said:
>>"B'nai B'rith and B'nai Brith are two different entities." Seeing how Ken Lewis
>>is just an ignorant sort who can only name call and make personal attack I will
>>assume he really meant: "B'nai B'rith and ADL are two different entities." so I
>>will slam dunk him in the same moment I slam dunk his big mouth pal, Ken McVay,
>>who he endlessly shills for with a "black jack across the hard head" which is
>>all these people understand. Here is that black jack:
:
>No, you ignorant putz! I meant what I wrote. B'nai Brith and B'nai
>B'rith are two seperate organizations.
You really are mentally challenged aren't you? Were you an abuser of
hallucinogenic drugs in your youth?
>You have been given enough information that even a slug should be able
>to figure this out so even someone with your limited intelligence
>should be able to answer this. Now figure it out and get back to me
>you gutless, lying, sack of shit.
Me lying? It is you and McVay lying with such as this:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters-
>The Jews ...
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9vs4af$k61$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>>B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
>>>>has long since severed its ties.
I merely posted what they, themselves, have at their web site which shows you're
all mouth.
Once again because I know you are slow and you are a dullard:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
(Link active December 20, 2001 for verification)
"Report an Anti-Semitic/Racist Incident 1-800 892-BNAI
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives ...."
Hey Ken Lewis will your level of reading comprehension allow you to comprehend
the meaning of the phrase which states: "Working in co-operative association
with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative
Initiatives.."?
Ken McVay also showed his ignorance with:
>[H]e's wrong about the ADL - they do not function as a
>part of B'nai B'rith, B'nai B'rith does not operate the ADL, and it
>does not fund the ADL. The ADL was once a part of BB, but it isn't any
>longer, and hasn't been for some time.
What did the above active link state? My but my opposition is stupid!
Some more lies made by Ken McVay exposed for the archives!
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Followup-To: alt.revisionism
>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
>
>>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>>League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who deface,
>>>defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show.
>>>Indeed, BB is collecting information on citizens who post in alt.revisionism
>>>and anywhere else articles of an anti-Semitic theme.
>>>
>>>I'm pointing this out as common knowledge.
:
Ken McVay, proven liar quipped:
>>In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai
>>Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
>>information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for
>>making that clear.
and from the same post:
>In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
>Stephen H. Kawamoto <shkaw...@shaw.ca> also wrote:
>>B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish Anti-Defamation
>>League .... defame and destroy free speech that exposes their smoke-and-magick show
Ken McVay, challenged:
>Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
>your free speech to do so.
New material which takes the place of previously presented material:
From Nizkor's own web site and this pretty well slam dunks McVay's challenge:
"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html
The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise from
Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of the B'nai
Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian Anti-Racism Education
and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off Fairview's network connection
to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project,
a massive on- line archive that documents and refutes ... <name calling is not
refuting> ... McVay has been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years,
compiling archives <files on private citizens>, offering to establish links
between hate sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate
post that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it
were," McVay said. "They have an agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they
are lying <you're the one who has been caught lying!!> about a specific issue, I
can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I've
done them some harm." ... B'nai Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the
anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and
it collects donations for the Nizkor Project."
Comments between < and > were mine!
-------
events, specific information about extremist individuals, written attacks on
well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted comments on current
events, and links to new hateful Web sites. Particular areas of the Internet
that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and discussion boards,
Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As appropriate, some
volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms, bulletin boards, or
USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring duties. ... Combating hate
on the Internet is a daunting task. Despite this, we must find a way to respond.
You and your students can play an important part by helping ADL. Please contact
us today! <end>
I thought Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed that his masters don't monitor USENET which
his previous statement declared: "[Y]ou have no evidence whatsoever that anyone
at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
The above "LIE" is from this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9ureg9%241c70%2...@news.tht.net&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
I now ask- how many lies have I exposed Nizkor's Ken McVay in so far in this
series of posts?
http://www.models-research.ie/publications/art/99-6.html
... Usenet newsgroups such as alt.politics.white-power offer an opportunity to
recruit new members. Postings from newcomers can be followed up with contact by
direct email to encourage the newcomers to feel part of the racist community.
... However, neo-nazis visiting a newsgroup need not engage in the conflict;
they can just post messages asking for sympathisers to contact them directly by
email. ... Using email, they are out of the limelight and safe from sanction by
other Internet users. ... A number of voluntary organisations, such as
Hatewatch, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL),
monitor and document hate activities on the Internet. <end>
BTW "neo-nazi" is applied to everyone who resists the ADL, B'nai Brith, Nizkor
and all the left wing Jews.
http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/2609_12.asp
"[A]nti-Semites and racists are using the Internet to recruit new members, get
their message out and open new channels of communication among sympathizers, a
report just released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reveals. Hate Group
Recruitment On the Internet shows how extremists are exploiting the technology
of the Internet, including the World Wide Web and USENET, to attract supporters
... the ADL leaders said. "The message is clear: we must monitor it..."
Looks like McVay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's agenda!
Remember McVay has stated (as detailed above): "[Y]ou have no evidence
whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is
collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
How about this ADL page content?
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?
______________________________________________________________________
^.^
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk The Two Kens Again! aka Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in
Denial About B'nai Brith and ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught
Lying Again for the Sake of his Masters- The Jews ...
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c270e1d....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
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<3c228d80...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
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<3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca> <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 04:41:52 GMT, <3c270e1d....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, _Nizkor's Nemesis_
><t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
>wrote:
:
>>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
:
>Bradshit AGAIN proves he is a totally ignorant jackass and is
>incapable of reading anything correctly.
>
>Try reading again, fool. "Working in co-operative association." It
>has already been explained to you that they are distinctly seperate
>entities.
Here is what you and McVay have claimed:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>References: <40e6d6b30bd09974...@remailer.havenco.com>
><3c228d80...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
><sh952u4r81ogvatof...@4ax.com>
><3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
> organizations.
<end of quoted passage>
I countered the bogus claim with (as shown above):
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
Back to your desperate personal attack:
>Bradshit AGAIN proves he is a totally ignorant jackass and is
>incapable of reading anything correctly.
>
>Try reading again, fool. "Working in co-operative association." It
>has already been explained to you that they are distinctly seperate
>entities.
The phrase: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" still slam dunks your
and McVay's claim of: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations." And that is a fact!
>Are you incapable of reading? Unable to understand? Wish to remain
^.^
Subject: Tavish Fucks Pigs - Was Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Over and Over and
Head He Is!
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:26:48 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c25406...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <686a2u03c5lad2t4j...@4ax.com>
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:26:48 GMT, <3c25406...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:59:19 -0600, Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>
>>From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
>>Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again and Again and Again! Will He Come Back
>>For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard Head He Is!
>>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT
>>Organization: Electric Zen
>>Message-ID: <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>
>>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT, <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:16:27 -0600, Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
>>><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Nothing. As usual.
>>>
>>>Try reading this again, Bradshit.
>>>
>>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.revisionism+author:kenneth+author:mcvay&hl=en&rnum=5&selm=9vtahn%24r2a%241%40news.tht.net
>>>
>>><quote>
>>>
>>>In order to check my facts with respect to the ADL's relationship with
>>>B'nai B'rith, I wrote to the ADL and asked them for clarification.
>>>
>>>I explained that I understood that the ADL was no longer a part of
>>>B'nai B'rith, and this was the response I received:
>>>
>>>"What you were told is not exactly correct. There has never been a
>>>formal separation.
That is what I have maintained while you and McVay claim they have parted
company as shown here:
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
"B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL, which
has long since severed its ties." <end>
>>>Our corporate name is still the Anti-Defamation
>>>League of B'nai B'rith.
Which is what I have been showing!!!
>>>ADL has ALWAYS been separately incorporated and B'nai B'rith has
>>>provided no funds to ADL for many, many years.
Big deal and they tell why below!
>>>ADL is vastly larger than its parent body in terms of staff and
>>>budget."
Notice the term "parent body"? It's like saying "Pontiac Motor Division of
General Motors." They may be separate "legal existences" but the parent
organization still calls the shots just like B'nai Brith International calls the
shots for all of its world-wide B'nai Brith branches!
>>>"Perhaps some confusion exists because the offices of what is now the
>>>Canadian League for Human Rights, affiliated with B'nai B'rith, used
>>>to be two ADL offices in Canada. Going back some 30 years or so, we
>>>'divested' ourselves of those offices. As I recall, there were some
>>>rather complicated tax problems
As many other groups and corporations do- they create separate legal existences
on account of taxes.
>>>(but then I am depending upon a memory that, while quite good, has not
>>>been called upon to provide details of the closure of those ADL offices
>>>for almost three decades!)"
>>>
>>>There you have it - the ADL operates within the B'nai B'rith umbrella
>>>in the United States,
Just as the FBI operates under the umbrella of the Justice Department-- the
Justice Department still calls the shots!
>>>but has no such existence in Canada (where the organization is known as
>>>B'nai Brith),
Not according to the B'nai Brith Canada web page I quote here:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
(Link active December 23, 2001)
"B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs."
The above link is B'nai Brith Canada and it shows: "The Anti-Defamation League
(ADL) of B’nai B’rith"!!
>>>and I was in error when I said that the ADL and B'nai B'rith had parted company.
Thanks for confirming that ADL and B'nai Brith have not parted company and
perhaps Ken Lewis and Ken McVay will stop being in a state of denial!
>>>However, as the letter points out, the two organizations have separate
>>>legal existence, i.e. separate incorporation, and totally separate
>>>funding.
For purposes of defending against liability which ADL lost $10.5 dollars in a
lawsuit against it by a Colorado couple recently and for tax reasons.
>>></quote>
>>:
>>>The two organizations have seperate legal existence. Are you able to
>>>read that, blockhead?
:
>>So what? Their web sites and others still say:
:
>So they didn't update their web site or someone put up the wrong
>information. Big fucking deal. That doesn't mean they are not two
>seperate legal entities.
I love how you continually make an ass of yourself when your spin doctoring and
diversions don't work as well as you plan. ROTFLMAO!
>Yo are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Everyone see how my opposition acts when they get slam dunked again and again!?
Name call and personal attack is ALL these pathetic losers have when they are
proven ignorant again and again!
A review for the archives:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT, <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>The two organizations have seperate legal existence. Are you able to
>read that, blockhead?
So what? Their web sites and others still say:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
You will see:
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If I said "Chevrolet Motor Division of General Motors" would you claim they are
two separate organizations as you and Ken McVay have been claiming about the
relationship of ADL to B'nai Brith? Chevrolet is a division of General Motors
^.^
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again! Will He Come Back For More? aka
Again! aka Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and ADL
Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake of his
Masters- The Jews ...
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3c25d1b9...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:33:38 GMT, <3c25d1b9...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:33:39 -0600, _Nizkor's Nemesis_
><t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
>wrote:
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>>The phrase: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" still slam dunks your
>>and McVay's claim of: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>>organizations." And that is a fact!
:
>This has been asked and answered, Bradbury, and been shown to you that
>they are two seperate entities.
YOU ARE WRONG! What the Jews, themselves, say slam dunks you!
>You continue to lie about it.
So you are now saying that YOUR Jews lie? I will show what they, themselves,
have at their web sites and what they show disagrees strongly with the myth you
cling to: "they are two seperate entities" regarding ADL and B'nai Brith.
>Go sleep off your drunk.
Personal attack is about all you have left isn't it?
Let the readers decide who is telling the truth and who is lying. You and McVay
maintain the notion: "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations" and now I will show what other sources show and they show, more
or less: "the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" which hardly agrees with
your current claim of: "they are two seperate entities."
My proof and the same conflict now resume!
All links valid December 21, 2001 for verification purposes.
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:46:07 -0600, <1mk72ugkkj37kb9d9...@4ax.com>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
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>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC), <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Subject: Re: Ken McVay & Ken Lewis in Denial About B'nai Brith and
>>ADL Connections aka Re: Nizkor's Ken McVay Caught Lying Again for the Sake
>>of his Masters- The Jews aka Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
>>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <a00a7v$1g29$1...@news.tht.net>
>>In article <3c239a94...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>
>>[TubbyBlubber flushed down the ol' Ellis]
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>Can't refute it so you just delete it!
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>>>What's the matter, Bradshit? Not up to the challange? What is the
>>>difference between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith? Read it real closely
>>>for the first time you moral cretin.
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>Name call and personal attack is about all you people have left isn't it?
:
>>Of course he's not up to the challenge. He hasn't got the brain of a
>>gnat.
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>We shall see how I counter your personal attacks.
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>>Let's see if we can confuse BlubberTubby again:
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>Name calling won't win BUT facts surely do!
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>>1. B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
It now appears that they are the same except for one is Canadian and calls
itself: League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada" whereas the American
version calls itself: "B'nai B'rith, 823 United Nations Plaza, New York, N.Y.,
10017" Is there any doubt that they don't have the same agenda and share the
same resources? They both claim to have an "Anti-Defamation League" too!
>Who cares? Their agenda is the same!
I don't know about that now. It is beginning to look like they are one and the
same! I show new material below!
>>2. The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
:
>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001 for verification)
>"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
>antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. ... Working in co-operative association with
>the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai
>Brith Canada accomplishes its goals ..."
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>>3. The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate
>> organizations.
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>What about this link and their claim? Are you implying your masters are liars?
>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
>(Link active December 21, 2001)
>"[D]ocuments published by The League for Human Rights, The Anti-Defamation
>League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The Institute for
>International Affairs."
Notice that both links I gave above have the same home page link of:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/
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http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
We see listed: B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Publications http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#three
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith, The Nizkor Project and The
Institute for International Affairs.
Which also shows:
Hate on the Internet: Selected Readings (1995) $7.00
Compiled by Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project (an internet network to
counter Holocaust denial) and Dr. Karen Mock, National Director of the League
for Human Rights, this collection includes articles, clippings and excerpts from
the net, to document the current state of the transmission of hate propaganda
via the internet.
Another link at the same site shows:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is dedicated to combatting
antisemitism, racism, and bigotry. The objectives of the League include the
protection of human rights of all Canadians, the development of positive
inter-community relations, and the elimination of racial discrimination and
antisemitism. Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
accomplishes its goals through: Legal/Legislative Initiatives.." EXACT QUOTE
I thought Ken Mcvay claimed (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two
completely separate organizations" YET B'nai Brith claims (as shown above):
"Working in co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
Brith, the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its
goals.." which deep sixes Ken McVay's claim!
The only difference I see between B'nai Brith and B'nai B'rith is one is
Canadian and the other is American and the American version seems to be the
head honcho of all of them!!
Here is another Canadian B'nai Brith link:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-00.htm
which shows:
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B'nai B'rith Jewish Community Camp
http://www.bbcamp.ca/
B’nai B’rith Israel Joseph Niego Lodge No.3081
http://www.geocities.com/bnaibrithisrael/contact.html
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http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
<<Doc Tavish comment December 21, 2001: I guess Seattle Community College is
wrong too seeing how they show: "Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith" when Ken
McVay said (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely
separate organizations."
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Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
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84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
The above statement from McVay's very own web site slam dunks McVay's claim (as
shown above): "The ADL and B'nai Brith are two completely separate
organizations."
Another Nizkor link shows:
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Notice the Swiss branch of the ADL ties the ADL to B'nai B'rith which counters
Ken McVay's claim (as shown above): "The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely
separate organizations."
Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
October 25,1995
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Looks like the above disagrees with Ken McVay's claim (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
How about this?
http://bnaibrith.org/membership/intro.html
"Since 1843 generations of Jewish people around the world have been helping
others in need through their membership and activities in B nai B rith
International. ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B nai B rith is the
International role model for organizations fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and
prejudice." .... Please fill out the B'nai B'rith Online Membership Application
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Strange that B'nai B'rith International sometimes leaves out those apostrophes
and then sometimes it doesn't!
http://www.stopthehate.org/get_involved/community/inform/statewide_resources.php
Massachusetts Statewide Resources for Civil Rights/Hate Crime Assistance
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) in Boston is the only civil
rights organization that deals with anti-Semitism as its first priority.
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I thought McVay claimed (as shown above):
"The ADL and B'nai B'rith are two completely separate organizations."
If they are "two completely separate organizations" then why is the
name of "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith" used? They hardly look
like "two completely separate organizations"!
See how easy it is to expose McVay and his diversions?!
http://bnaibrith.org/bbemail.html
The following is an updated directory of e-mail addresses for all major B'nai
B'rith offices and groups around the world.
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Major Agencies & Offices
President's Office .........
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ADL Headquarters ........................... webm...@adl.org
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versions! They are actually one and the same!
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Now here are some examples of ADL of B'nai Brith:
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http://www.kellogg.nwu.edu/student/club/kadima/Links.htm
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
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Need I say more? I wonder if the Yids at ADL think their own teachings are "hate
^.^
Subject: Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Again and Again and Again! Will He Come Back
For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard Head He Is!
Organization: Electric Zen
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:39:49 GMT, <3c26e0c7...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
So what? Their web sites and others still say:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm
We see listed: B’nai Brith Canada Publications
Publications http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/publicn.htm#three
Listing includes documents published by The League for Human Rights, The
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith ...
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
"The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada is ... Working in
co-operative association with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada accomplishes its goals through.."
You will see:
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http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/lcohen/holocaust/links.htm
Seattle Central Community College
Links to Organizations that Combat Hate and/or Holocaust Denial:
Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith: www.adl.org
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Ken McVay's very own web site contents refute Ken McVay:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-004-01
"Last-Modified: 1997/01/21
Source: Department of Justice Canada
Footnotes
-------------
84. Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith, ADL Law Report, Hate Crimes Statutes:
A 1991 Status Report (New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1992), p. 4."
Another Nizkor link shows:
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Here is Jewish Samuel Berger of the Clinton Administration:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/speeches/sbadl.html
Samuel R. Berger
Deputy National Security Advisor to the President
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Washington, DC
October 25,1995
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http://bnaibrith.org/membership/intro.html
"Since 1843 generations of Jewish people around the world have been helping
others in need through their membership and activities in B nai B rith
International. ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B nai B rith is the
International role model for organizations fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and
prejudice." .... Please fill out the B'nai B'rith Online Membership Application
<end>
Strange that B'nai B'rith International sometimes leaves out those apostrophes
and then sometimes it doesn't!
http://www.stopthehate.org/get_involved/community/inform/statewide_resources.php
Massachusetts Statewide Resources for Civil Rights/Hate Crime Assistance
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) in Boston is the only civil
rights organization that deals with anti-Semitism as its first priority.
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Another Ex-Clinton Administration link:
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Need I say more? The ADL is of B'nai Brith or they wouldn't constantly be
referred to as the "Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith" by others and
themselves.
I don't care if you all now claim: "The two organizations have separate legal
existence." It means nothing! Many corporations and groups have separate legal
existence because of taxes and liabilities BUT they all are connected in many
ways to each other!
If I said "Chevrolet of General Motors" would you claim they are two separate
organizations as you and Ken McVay have been claiming about the relationship of
ADL to B'nai Brith? Chevrolet is a division of General Motors and is part of it
Le Mod Pol
"^.^" wrote:
>
> From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
> Subject: Tavish Fucks Pigs - Was Re: I Slam Dunk Ken Lewis Over and Over and
> Over Again! Will He Come Back For More? For Certain He Will-- Being the Hard
> Head He Is!
I would suggest that you spend a few months in a psychiatric
clinic before you post another idiotic spam message