Global Cooling
Canuck57
The dates on record temeratures indicate we are cooling. No recent
highs at all.
While I knew global warming was a farce to collect green from one pocket
to another, lets face facts.
It isn't getting any warmer out there. Time to burn carbon to make
government rich and keep our asses from freezing.
DevilsPGD
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>The dates on record temeratures indicate we are cooling. No recent
>highs at all.
Ooops.
>While I knew global warming was a farce to collect green from one pocket
>to another, lets face facts.
>
>It isn't getting any warmer out there. Time to burn carbon to make
>government rich and keep our asses from freezing.
The fact is that we're still gluttonous and wasteful. While I've never
been a global warming true believer, it's nice to see a move toward
efficiency and reduction in pointless wastefulness.
Canuck57
In reality, the market place does this more efficiently than government.
That is if government doesn't prop up the wasteful ones like GM or
make people work harder than they need to for taxes.
The whole idea of an open competative market is to drive out waste, big
picture waste, TCO waste. Not just some myopic knobs narrow view of it.
Waste includes lithium battery deteriation, the plastics and the NG
going up to make the electricity. When you factor in the real total
picture, a 35 mpg mid-size cheaper sedan with iron, aluminum and less
plastics makes all the sense if it lasts 10 yeaars or more. Even
leather seats are better than rayon/nylon.
Whatever they do, if they can't get the cost down 1) people will not be
able to pay for them or 2) they will make no economic sense. People on
average are seeing lower net after tax/bank incomes.
Take our budget. F150 big beast. Comfortable as it gets to drive, lots
of power, 4x4 and is nicely equiped. Does everything we want, Costco
fridges to moutain drives, even off road. Burn about $2000 in fuel a
year. Capital cost is about 42k CAD, it is loaded. Even hauls boat.
Say a volt costs $52K CAD, and bet it costs more. A/C, heat, probably a
PITA if it works. Can't haul boat, fridge, 5 in comfort. 2 seater
roller skate. Needs $6,000 in batteries each 3 years. GM hids the cost
of electricity to charge them better than NSA/CIA keep quiet.
So when you work it out, what I save in gas I will at least spend in
batteries and still need some gas. And I will in addition have a much
larger electricity bill, with NG generatd power adding in the carbon for
me by proxy. Not to speak of maintenace, resale and comfort. And I
have to pay $10,000 plus GST+PST more for it.
If gas doubles, it is still cheaper for an F150 at at -30C it cranks
live preserving heat.
Volts, limited niche market at best.
To me, a good electric car is 100% electric, over 250 miles per charge.
Goes like smoke. Something like the Tesla.
It would have 4 direct drive motors. Computer controlled 4x4 and
independant. No linkages, no ball joints very few moving parts. Even
brakes are downsized as they are only needed when parked. When
brake/slowing, it turns generator in 10ms or less, the drag recharges.
In fact the wheels are so standard, Walmart can service them. New tires
and motors in 20 minutes. Ditto batteries. In an out. Standardized
like PCs. A drive breaks, off the shelf standard parts, same ones for
Ford and GM/Chrysler if they are still around. Even put the same
wheels/motors on a Toyota. Mass produce them cheap and reliable.
Don't screw around with UAW/CAW labour antics. One piece body,
injection molded with coloring already added. Just like TVs. Maybe
even buy them at Walmart for $10K.
The price differential between say big fat GM loser and Tata Motors or
the Chinese compared is more than 10:1 more costly as it is. People in
the new economy are no going to be able to afford GM. Not in buying,
and not in taxes.
Mr.Smartypants
> In message <qhsTm.41795$ZF3.4...@newsfe13.iad> Canuck57
What reduction?
All they want to do is TAX nations collectively for producing global
warming gases.
DevilsPGD
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Well to start off with, lets look at the fuel efficiency of cars being
sold now vs four years ago.
Canuck57
That is bullshit slavery talk. There is no way people in Canada (or any
other country) should be paying taxes to foreigners, period.
Taxation sure has turned out to be an efficient and effective slavery
mechanism.
Green Turtle
pictures of children and babies.
What do you think of that?
I sounds like something that you would do.
Check out the Wild Rose Alliance's website. They support child prostitution
and kiddie porn. Apparently the see it as a fitting alternative to the boom
/ bust cycle of the oil patch, and a new economic source for Alberta's
economy.
All true libertarians believe in child labor over education.
If you weren't such a Statist, you would know that already.
Canuck57 wrote