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John Fleming
May 20, 2013, 1:50:20 PM5/20/13
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Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
frying pan.
The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
Parliament has to come clean.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
PV
May 20, 2013, 1:59:10 PM5/20/13
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John Fleming wrote:
> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> frying pan.
>
> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
>
> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
>
> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
>
> Parliament has to come clean.
You mean run it like a business is required to run under Revenue Canada
> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> frying pan.
>
> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
>
> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
>
> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
>
> Parliament has to come clean.
rules for expenses? Heaven forbid our "ruling" class should be subject to
the rules us commoners are subject to.
It's time that all levels of government get dragged back down to earth, both
elected and the bureaucrats that continue to bleed the public purse dry
Independant auditors and oversight would be the order of the day,
independant especially from the PMO.
--
PV
In Pierre Trudeau, Canada has finally produced
a Prime Minister worthy of assassination.
- Irving Layton
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 4:27:43 PM5/20/13
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In article <61okp8pueb6s13ekf...@4ax.com>,
10/10 John
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The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 4:31:13 PM5/20/13
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In article <Nvtmt.7972$bK1....@newsfe11.iad>,
That should received 100% approval in a referendum.
Dave Smith
May 20, 2013, 4:58:03 PM5/20/13
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On 20/05/2013 1:50 PM, John Fleming wrote:
>
> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> frying pan.
>
> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
>
> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
>
> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
>
> Parliament has to come clean.
That should not be necessary. They are supposed to be people who can be
>
> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> frying pan.
>
> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
>
> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
>
> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
>
> Parliament has to come clean.
entrusted to pass legislation for the benefit of the people of the
country. If they are found to be thieves and liars they should be fired.
They are not to be trusted in Parliament or in the Senate. I worked
for a provincial ministry and had a provincial gas credit card. The
rules were quite simple. They were to be used only for fuel for ministry
vehicles, and ministry vehicles were for ministry used for ministry
business. One guy in our district got caught using his card to put some
gas in his personal vehicle. He was not given the chance to pay back the
money. Nor did someone upper management pay it back for him. He was
fired. If they can fire one of the lowest paid on the rung over $20
worth of gas, it seems appropriate that someone with a 6 figure income
who screwed the government out of $90,000 should face at least the same
penalty.
John Fleming
May 20, 2013, 6:33:38 PM5/20/13
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[Default] On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:58:03 -0400, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> $On 20/05/2013 1:50 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $>
> $> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> $> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> $> frying pan.
> $>
> $> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> $> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
> $>
> $> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> $> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> $> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> $> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> $> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> $> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
> $>
> $> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> $> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> $> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
> $>
> $> Parliament has to come clean.
> $
> $
> $That should not be necessary. They are supposed to be people who can be
> $entrusted to pass legislation for the benefit of the people of the
> $country
If Mr. Duffy and Mr Brazeau and (possibly) Ms. Wallin are any
indication, they can't be trusted with public funds without some kind
of independent oversight. The three mention are the ones who, so far,
have been caught. I'm willing to bet there are more where they came
from, and the only reason they have got away with it is because
government auditing (or lack thereof) is letting them fly under the
radar.
> $If they are found to be thieves and liars they should be fired.
> $They are not to be trusted in Parliament or in the Senate. I worked
> $for a provincial ministry and had a provincial gas credit card. The
> $rules were quite simple. They were to be used only for fuel for ministry
> $vehicles, and ministry vehicles were for ministry used for ministry
> $business. One guy in our district got caught using his card to put some
> $gas in his personal vehicle. He was not given the chance to pay back the
> $money. Nor did someone upper management pay it back for him. He was
> $fired. If they can fire one of the lowest paid on the rung over $20
> $worth of gas, it seems appropriate that someone with a 6 figure income
> $who screwed the government out of $90,000 should face at least the same
> $penalty.
in the scriptorium Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> $On 20/05/2013 1:50 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $>
> $> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> $> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> $> frying pan.
> $>
> $> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> $> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
> $>
> $> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> $> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> $> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> $> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> $> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> $> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
> $>
> $> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> $> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> $> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
> $>
> $> Parliament has to come clean.
> $
> $
> $That should not be necessary. They are supposed to be people who can be
> $entrusted to pass legislation for the benefit of the people of the
> $country
If Mr. Duffy and Mr Brazeau and (possibly) Ms. Wallin are any
indication, they can't be trusted with public funds without some kind
of independent oversight. The three mention are the ones who, so far,
have been caught. I'm willing to bet there are more where they came
from, and the only reason they have got away with it is because
government auditing (or lack thereof) is letting them fly under the
radar.
> $If they are found to be thieves and liars they should be fired.
> $They are not to be trusted in Parliament or in the Senate. I worked
> $for a provincial ministry and had a provincial gas credit card. The
> $rules were quite simple. They were to be used only for fuel for ministry
> $vehicles, and ministry vehicles were for ministry used for ministry
> $business. One guy in our district got caught using his card to put some
> $gas in his personal vehicle. He was not given the chance to pay back the
> $money. Nor did someone upper management pay it back for him. He was
> $fired. If they can fire one of the lowest paid on the rung over $20
> $worth of gas, it seems appropriate that someone with a 6 figure income
> $who screwed the government out of $90,000 should face at least the same
> $penalty.
John Fleming
May 20, 2013, 6:34:44 PM5/20/13
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[Default] On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:59:10 -0600, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
> $>
> $> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> $> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> $> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> $> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> $> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> $> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
> $>
> $> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> $> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> $> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
> $>
> $> Parliament has to come clean.
> $
> $You mean run it like a business is required to run under Revenue Canada
> $rules for expenses? Heaven forbid our "ruling" class should be subject to
> $the rules us commoners are subject to.
That would be a start.
> $It's time that all levels of government get dragged back down to earth, both
> $elected and the bureaucrats that continue to bleed the public purse dry
> $
> $Independant auditors and oversight would be the order of the day,
> $independant especially from the PMO.
--
in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> $> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> $> frying pan.
> $>
> $> The whole issue got me thinking, especially in the context of only one
> $> Just listening to the segment on the Senate expense account scandal.
> $> Yes, Duffy should fry. Sounds like Wallin will be next into the
> $> frying pan.
> $>
> $> Member of Pariiament ever making her expense claims public.
> $>
> $> I'm willing to bet Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau are only the tip of the
> $> iceberg. Further, if a detailed audit was done of the expense
> $> accounts of all Members of Parliament--both Senate and House of
> $> Commons--we'd find a lot of rot. Further, I expect we'd find members
> $> of all the major parties in Parliament--Conservitive, Liberal, NDP and
> $> BQ--with their fingers in the cookie jar.
> $>
> $> I think the best way to clean up the rot is to make it mandatory for
> $> all Members of Parliament to (a) publish the details of their expense
> $> accounts and (b) have their account audited *every* year.
> $>
> $> Parliament has to come clean.
> $
> $You mean run it like a business is required to run under Revenue Canada
> $rules for expenses? Heaven forbid our "ruling" class should be subject to
> $the rules us commoners are subject to.
That would be a start.
> $It's time that all levels of government get dragged back down to earth, both
> $elected and the bureaucrats that continue to bleed the public purse dry
> $
> $Independant auditors and oversight would be the order of the day,
> $independant especially from the PMO.
--
Barry Bruyea
May 20, 2013, 6:59:59 PM5/20/13
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:34:44 -0600, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com>
wrote:
I believe that we have arrived at a point that every aspect of the
Senate should be critically audited. Every Senator and every staff
member should come under and intense audit. And then we move on to
the MP's. I'm sick of these clowns, of every stripe, sucking the life
out of the taxpayer.
wrote:
Senate should be critically audited. Every Senator and every staff
member should come under and intense audit. And then we move on to
the MP's. I'm sick of these clowns, of every stripe, sucking the life
out of the taxpayer.
Rob
May 20, 2013, 7:30:34 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 2:31 PM, The Doctor wrote:
> That should received 100% approval in a referendum.
"should received"?
> That should received 100% approval in a referendum.
fucking illiterate imbecile
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 7:32:15 PM5/20/13
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In article <209lp8td8d1cu3jjq...@4ax.com>,
Just a note when did an Alberta Liberal Senator got caught with
expenses issues while holding office?
expenses issues while holding office?
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 7:34:46 PM5/20/13
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In article <gjalp8t9m9717l28n...@4ax.com>,
The WHOLE of PArliament all in one go!
The Liberal Scarborough MP Michelle Samson tried to raisethe bar.
The Liberal Scarborough MP Michelle Samson tried to raisethe bar.
PV
May 20, 2013, 7:45:22 PM5/20/13
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Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
liable to find a thief
Rob
May 20, 2013, 7:46:37 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 5:34 PM, The Doctor wrote:
> The WHOLE of PArliament all in one go!
"whole of"?
> The WHOLE of PArliament all in one go!
fucking illiterate imbecile
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 7:49:00 PM5/20/13
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John Fleming
May 20, 2013, 8:23:25 PM5/20/13
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[Default] On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:45:22 -0600, while chained to a desk
> $> Just a note when did an Alberta Liberal Senator got caught with
> $> expenses issues while holding office?
> $
> $"Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $liable to find a thief
Absolutely!!
So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
cookie jar and haven't been caught?
It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
a step towards keeping them honest.
(And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
Parliament is squeaky clean.)
in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> Just a note when did an Alberta Liberal Senator got caught with
> $> expenses issues while holding office?
> $
> $"Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $liable to find a thief
Absolutely!!
So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
cookie jar and haven't been caught?
It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
a step towards keeping them honest.
(And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
Parliament is squeaky clean.)
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 8:25:43 PM5/20/13
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In article <k9flp81h1cro2ruo5...@4ax.com>,
John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>[Default] On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:45:22 -0600, while chained to a desk
>in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> $The Doctor wrote:
>
>> $> Just a note when did an Alberta Liberal Senator got caught with
>> $> expenses issues while holding office?
>> $
>> $"Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
>> $Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
>> $party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
>> $liable to find a thief
>
>Absolutely!!
>
>So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
>cookie jar and haven't been caught?
>
>It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
>should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
>public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
>a step towards keeping them honest.
>
>(And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
>strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
>Parliament is squeaky clean.)
Bring it on!
>[Default] On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:45:22 -0600, while chained to a desk
>in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> $The Doctor wrote:
>
>> $> Just a note when did an Alberta Liberal Senator got caught with
>> $> expenses issues while holding office?
>> $
>> $"Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
>> $Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
>> $party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
>> $liable to find a thief
>
>Absolutely!!
>
>So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
>cookie jar and haven't been caught?
>
>It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
>should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
>public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
>a step towards keeping them honest.
>
>(And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
>strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
>Parliament is squeaky clean.)
Rob
May 20, 2013, 9:31:03 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 6:25 PM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article<k9flp81h1cro2ruo5...@4ax.com>,
> John Fleming<nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
>> should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
>> public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
>> a step towards keeping them honest.
>>
>> (And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
>> strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
>> Parliament is squeaky clean.)
>
> Bring it on!
"Bring it on!"?
> In article<k9flp81h1cro2ruo5...@4ax.com>,
> John Fleming<nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> It should become a legal requirement that all members of both houses
>> should have to post details of their expense accounts to the web for
>> public scrutiny. It may not be the perfect solution, but it would be
>> a step towards keeping them honest.
>>
>> (And, doctor, given all the shenanigans around things like Adscam and
>> strippergate, I'd be really surprised if every Liberal member of
>> Parliament is squeaky clean.)
>
> Bring it on!
What the fuck did you have in mind?
Of course using the word "mind" in association with Yads, the fucking
illiterate imbecile, is a big stretch.
ConsƦcons
May 21, 2013, 8:05:02 PM5/21/13
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On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> liable to find a thief
Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> liable to find a thief
You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
ConsƦcons
May 21, 2013, 8:05:07 PM5/21/13
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On 5/20/2013 5:23 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
> cookie jar and haven't been caught?
SIX caught. All but one are Conservatives appointed by Stephen Harper.
> So far, three caught. How many more who have their fingers in the
> cookie jar and haven't been caught?
Sharx35
May 21, 2013, 9:44:16 PM5/21/13
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"ConsƦcons" <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote in message
news:xbUmt.5017$OS5....@newsfe24.iad...
> On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
>> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
>> my mind,
>> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
>> regardless of what
>> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and
>> you are
>> liable to find a thief
>
> Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
It's not so much as thievery re the NDP or Green, it's more a
>> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
>> my mind,
>> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
>> regardless of what
>> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and
>> you are
>> liable to find a thief
>
> Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
matter of unfounded idealism, of little knowledge of economics,
international affairs, etc.. They are just plain NAÏVE with a
capital N. And they are totally, absolutely, out to lunch on
matters involving ecology.
John Fleming
May 21, 2013, 11:01:28 PM5/21/13
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[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $> liable to find a thief
> $
> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $
> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
red herring.
Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
too is a red herring.
I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $> liable to find a thief
> $
> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $
> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
red herring.
Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
too is a red herring.
I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
PV
May 22, 2013, 12:30:21 AM5/22/13
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John Fleming wrote:
> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
>> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV (which KKKaren can't even spell) wrote:
>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
>> my mind, $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
>> regardless of what $> party is in power. Scratch a
>> Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are $> liable to find a thief
>> $
>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
>> $
>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
>
> Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> red herring.
>
> Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
> Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> too is a red herring.
>
> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
Is that nym-shifting bimbo KKKaren still posting here?
>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
>> my mind, $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
>> regardless of what $> party is in power. Scratch a
>> Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are $> liable to find a thief
>> $
>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
>> $
>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
>
> Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> red herring.
>
> Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
> Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> too is a red herring.
>
> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
Here you go bimbette:
In the 1991 provincial election, Harcourt led the NDP back to power,
defeating the Social Credit party led by Rita Johnston. This marked the
second time that the NDP had ever been in power in BC, and the first since
1975.
Harcourt resigned as premier in February 1996 as the result of "Bingogate",
a scandal in which an NDP member, David Stupich, used money raised by a
charity bingo to fund the party
The Green party stands in the wings wishing they could get at the trough but
currently they are kept out by the more senior parties but they too will get
there.
John Fleming
May 22, 2013, 12:46:21 AM5/22/13
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[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:30:21 -0600, while chained to a desk
> $> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $>> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV (which KKKaren can't even spell) wrote:
> $>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
> $>> my mind, $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
> $>> regardless of what $> party is in power. Scratch a
> $>> Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are $> liable to find a thief
> $> Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> $> red herring.
> $>
> $> Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
> $> Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> $> too is a red herring.
> $>
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $Is that nym-shifting bimbo KKKaren still posting here?
> $
> $Here you go bimbette:
> $
> $In the 1991 provincial election, Harcourt led the NDP back to power,
> $defeating the Social Credit party led by Rita Johnston. This marked the
> $second time that the NDP had ever been in power in BC, and the first since
> $1975.
> $
> $Harcourt resigned as premier in February 1996 as the result of "Bingogate",
> $a scandal in which an NDP member, David Stupich, used money raised by a
> $charity bingo to fund the party
> $
> $The Green party stands in the wings wishing they could get at the trough but
> $currently they are kept out by the more senior parties but they too will get
> $there.
She still is.
in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $>> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV (which KKKaren can't even spell) wrote:
> $>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in
> $>> my mind, $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up
> $>> regardless of what $> party is in power. Scratch a
> $>> Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are $> liable to find a thief
> $>> $
> $>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $>> $
> $>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
> $>
> $>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $>> $
> $>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
> $> Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> $> red herring.
> $>
> $> Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
> $> Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> $> too is a red herring.
> $>
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $Is that nym-shifting bimbo KKKaren still posting here?
> $
> $Here you go bimbette:
> $
> $In the 1991 provincial election, Harcourt led the NDP back to power,
> $defeating the Social Credit party led by Rita Johnston. This marked the
> $second time that the NDP had ever been in power in BC, and the first since
> $1975.
> $
> $Harcourt resigned as premier in February 1996 as the result of "Bingogate",
> $a scandal in which an NDP member, David Stupich, used money raised by a
> $charity bingo to fund the party
> $
> $The Green party stands in the wings wishing they could get at the trough but
> $currently they are kept out by the more senior parties but they too will get
> $there.
She still is.
Sharx35
May 22, 2013, 6:13:36 AM5/22/13
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"PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote in message
news:DRXmt.3005$bo....@newsfe27.iad...
> John Fleming wrote:
>> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a
>> desk
>> [Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a
>> desk
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 8:34:16 AM5/22/13
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In article <l3dop8hnavfoi6b6t...@4ax.com>,
FYI John in recently national byelection in Victoria the Greens
came in a strong second.
John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
>[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
came in a strong second.
Barry Bruyea
May 22, 2013, 10:00:48 AM5/22/13
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Rob
May 22, 2013, 7:04:33 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 6:34 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> FYI John in recently national byelection in Victoria the Greens
> came in a strong second.
"in recently national byelection"?
> FYI John in recently national byelection in Victoria the Greens
> came in a strong second.
fucking illiteral imbecile
John Fleming
May 22, 2013, 8:58:09 PM5/22/13
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[Default] On Wed, 22 May 2013 10:00:48 -0400, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Barry Bruyea <damnthet...@duck.com> wrote:
> $On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:34:16 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
> $(The Doctor) wrote:
> $>In article <l3dop8hnavfoi6b6t...@4ax.com>,
> $>John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>>[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $>>in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $>>> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
> $>>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $>>> $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $>>> $> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $>>> $> liable to find a thief
> $>>Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> $>>too is a red herring.
> $>>
> $>>I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $>>rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $>>with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $>
> $>FYI John in recently national byelection in Victoria the Greens
> $>came in a strong second.
> $
> $Strong Second? They lost. That's what 'strong second' means.
In the final analysis, the only position that counts is win. No prize
for place or show.
in the scriptorium Barry Bruyea <damnthet...@duck.com> wrote:
> $On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:34:16 +0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
> $(The Doctor) wrote:
> $>In article <l3dop8hnavfoi6b6t...@4ax.com>,
> $>John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>>[Default] On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:05:02 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $>>in the scriptorium Cons?cons <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $>>> $On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV ka 'pee pee' wrote:
> $>>> $> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my mind,
> $>>> $> Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless of what
> $>>> $> party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
> $>>> $> liable to find a thief
> $>>> $
> $>>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $>>> $
> $>>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
> $>>> $Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
> $>>> $
> $>>> $You're an obvious ass who doesn't even try to cover it.
> $>>
> $>>Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> $>>red herring.
> $>>
> $>>Given the current expense account scandal is focused on members of the
> $>>Considering the Greens have only ever elected one MP, the Greens are a
> $>>red herring.
> $>>
> $>>Senate, and there has never to my knowledge been an NDP senator, that
> $>>too is a red herring.
> $>>
> $>>I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $>>rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $>>with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $>
> $>FYI John in recently national byelection in Victoria the Greens
> $>came in a strong second.
> $
> $Strong Second? They lost. That's what 'strong second' means.
In the final analysis, the only position that counts is win. No prize
for place or show.
ConsƦcons
May 22, 2013, 10:02:39 PM5/22/13
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>> On 5/20/2013 4:45 PM, PV aka 'pee pee' wrote:
>>> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my
>>> mind, Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless
>>> of what party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
>>> liable to find a thief
> "ConsƦcons" <ConsRcén...@cda.ca> wrote
>>> "Caught" is the key word, this is no longer about the parties in my
>>> mind, Parliament as a whole needs to be audited and cleaned up regardless
>>> of what party is in power. Scratch a Liberal/Conservative/NDP/Green and you are
>>> liable to find a thief
>> Want to cite some 'NDP or Green' thieves ?
On 5/21/2013 6:44 PM, Sharx35 wrote:
> It's not so much as thievery re the NDP or Green, it's more a matter of
> unfounded idealism, of little knowledge of economics, international
> affairs, etc.. They are just plain NAÃ VE with a capital N. And they are
> It's not so much as thievery re the NDP or Green, it's more a matter of
> unfounded idealism, of little knowledge of economics, international
> totally, absolutely, out to lunch on matters involving ecology.
So you think they're "naive". That's your opinion, but hardly fact.
Do you admit that 'naivity' and 'thievery' are two very diverse
proclivities - and that to accuse the NDP or Greens of being 'thieves'
is pretty damned ignorant?
ConsƦcons
May 22, 2013, 10:02:55 PM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 9:30 PM, PV wrote:
> Is that nym-shifting bimbo KKKaren still posting here?
>
> Here you go bimbette:
Nope. No "KKKaren" posting here. But 'I' am and you're not having much
> Is that nym-shifting bimbo KKKaren still posting here?
>
> Here you go bimbette:
luck getting past me either.
Right back at you, git.
ConsƦcons
May 22, 2013, 10:03:12 PM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 8:01 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
I suspect you'd be wrong.
> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
John Fleming
May 22, 2013, 10:09:52 PM5/22/13
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[Default] On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:03:12 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <Cons...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/21/2013 8:01 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $I suspect you'd be wrong.
I rest my prediction on human nature.
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <Cons...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/21/2013 8:01 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $I suspect you'd be wrong.
I rest my prediction on human nature.
John Fleming
May 25, 2013, 8:22:48 PM5/25/13
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[Default] On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:03:12 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <Cons...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/21/2013 8:01 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $I suspect you'd be wrong.
It's just hit the news.
An NDP MP is over a barrel for not paying all his taxes.
You were saying Karen?
in the scriptorium Cons?cons <Cons...@cda.ca> wrote:
> $On 5/21/2013 8:01 PM, John Fleming wrote:
> $> I suspect that, if members of the HoC were audited with the same
> $> rigour as the senators, a few NDP might get caught in the net along
> $> with a few more Conservatives and Liberals.
> $
> $I suspect you'd be wrong.
It's just hit the news.
An NDP MP is over a barrel for not paying all his taxes.
You were saying Karen?
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