Nanos Poll 4 October 2008
The Doctor
Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
LPC 28%(-2) 41%(-1) 26%(+2) 35%(-1) 21%(-3)
NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
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>
> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> LPC 28%(-2) 41%(-1) 26%(+2) 35%(-1) 21%(-3)
> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the Leadership
Indicators poll:
Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
Layton: +4, +6, + 1
Dion: -5, -10, -4
May: +3, -1, +1
Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> $"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> $>
> $> Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
> $>
> $> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> $> LPC 28%(-2) 41%(-1) 26%(+2) 35%(-1) 21%(-3)
> $> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> $> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> $> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> $> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> $> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
> $
> $http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
> $
> $The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the Leadership
> $Indicators poll:
> $
> $Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
> $Layton: +4, +6, + 1
> $Dion: -5, -10, -4
> $May: +3, -1, +1
> $Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
From the way the Liberals are now taking pot shots at the
NDP as well as taking pot shots at the Conservatives
suggests the Liberals are worried.
Some of the current polls (Nanos being one of the
exceptions) suggest the NDP are nipping at the Liberal tail
and are only a couple of points back.
In fact, if you take a look at the Globe and Mail's poll of
polls, the NDP lead the Liberals in BC (28% to 20%) and the
prairies (17% to 15%).
And with Layton visiting the Liberal strongholds of PEI and
Cape Breton Island, it suggests he smells blood in the
political waters and hopes to pick up a seat or two in the
Maritimes.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
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And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
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MI Wakefield
"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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Two days after the French debate, Nanos has the Liberals still climbing in
Quebec, and one day after the English debate, falling everywhere else.
John Fleming
> $news:2m8ge490m4ujble9c...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:09:14 -0400, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca>
> $> wrote:
> $>> $"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $>> $news:gc8pmf$aoc$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
> $>> $>
> $>> $> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> $>> $> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> $>> $> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> $>> $> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> $>> $> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> $>> $> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
> $>> $
> $>> $http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
> $>> $
> $>> $The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the Leadership
> $>> $
> $>> $Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
> $>> $Dion: -5, -10, -4
> $>> $May: +3, -1, +1
> $>> $Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
> $>
> $> From the way the Liberals are now taking pot shots at the
> $> NDP as well as taking pot shots at the Conservatives
> $> suggests the Liberals are worried.
> $>
> $> Some of the current polls (Nanos being one of the
> $> exceptions) suggest the NDP are nipping at the Liberal tail
> $> and are only a couple of points back.
> $>
> $> In fact, if you take a look at the Globe and Mail's poll of
> $> polls, the NDP lead the Liberals in BC (28% to 20%) and the
> $> prairies (17% to 15%).
> $>
> $> And with Layton visiting the Liberal strongholds of PEI and
> $> Cape Breton Island, it suggests he smells blood in the
> $> political waters and hopes to pick up a seat or two in the
> $> Maritimes.
> $
> $Two days after the French debate, Nanos has the Liberals still climbing in
> $Quebec, and one day after the English debate, falling everywhere else.
Even the Globe and Mail's poll of polls had the Liberals
static in Quebec and was reporting, today, that Dion was in
Quebec attempting to shore up Liberal support in Quebec
ridings.
That would suggest they aren't even taking those for
granted.
Sharx35
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Layton, the shill for Toronto, is a complete buffoon.
John Fleming
the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $"MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> $> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $> news:gc8pmf$aoc$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $>>
> $>> Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
> $>>
> $>> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> $>> LPC 28%(-2) 41%(-1) 26%(+2) 35%(-1) 21%(-3)
> $>> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> $>> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> $>> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> $>> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> $>> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
> $>
> $> http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
> $>
> $> The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the Leadership
> $> Indicators poll:
> $>
> $> Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
> $> Layton: +4, +6, + 1
> $
> $Layton, the shill for Toronto, is a complete buffoon.
For a buffoon, he's not doing too badly.
> $> Dion: -5, -10, -4
> $> May: +3, -1, +1
> $> Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
> $>
> $>
The Doctor
Still the eeectorate is looking at which is the best team to lead them.
To date Harper has muzzled his MPs.
The Doctor
Atlantic and Ontario are not behaving consistently.
MI Wakefield
Before the French debate, one poll had the Liberals running fourth among
francophones, trailing the NDP.
The Liberals are at 20% or less in BC, Alberta, Manitoba & Saskatchewan, and
Quebec.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:51:47 -0400, while chained to a desk> $>> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $>> $news:2m8ge490m4ujble9c...@4ax.com...
> $>> $> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:09:14 -0400, while chained to a desk
> $>> $> in the scriptorium "MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca>
> $>> $> wrote:
> $>> $>> $"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $>> $>> $news:gc8pmf$aoc$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
> $>> $>> $>
> $>> $>> $> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> $>> $>> $> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> $>> $>> $> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> $>> $>> $> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> $>> $>> $> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> $>> $>> $> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the
> $>> $>> $Indicators poll:
> $>> $>> $
> $>> $>> $Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
> $>> $>> $Dion: -5, -10, -4
> $>> $>> $May: +3, -1, +1
> $>> $>> $Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
> $>> $>
> $>> $> From the way the Liberals are now taking pot shots at the
> $>> $> suggests the Liberals are worried.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Some of the current polls (Nanos being one of the
> $>> $> and are only a couple of points back.
> $>> $>
> $>> $> In fact, if you take a look at the Globe and Mail's poll of
> $>> $> prairies (17% to 15%).
> $>> $>
> $>> $> And with Layton visiting the Liberal strongholds of PEI and
> $>> $> political waters and hopes to pick up a seat or two in the
> $>> $> Maritimes.
> $>> $
> $>> $Two days after the French debate, Nanos has the Liberals still climbing
> $>> $Quebec, and one day after the English debate, falling everywhere else.
> $>
> $> Even the Globe and Mail's poll of polls had the Liberals
> $> static in Quebec and was reporting, today, that Dion was in
> $> Quebec attempting to shore up Liberal support in Quebec
> $> ridings.
> $>
> $> That would suggest they aren't even taking those for
> $> granted.
> $
> $Before the French debate, one poll had the Liberals running fourth among
> $francophones, trailing the NDP.
> $
> $The Liberals are at 20% or less in BC, Alberta, Manitoba & Saskatchewan, and
> $Quebec.
I suspect in Quebec, though, that support is very highly
concentrated in the greater Montreal area. So that will
translate into some seats.
As far as I can tell, the Conservative support is similarly
concentrated, but in the Quebec area, and again that will
translate into some seats.
The Doctor
I hate to top post but today's polls shows an interesting trend
Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
CPC 34%(-1) 31%(NC) 16%(-1) 35%(-1) 47%(-1)
LPC 30%(+2) 44%(+3) 28%(+2) 37%(+2) 23%(+2)
NDP 19%(NC) 22%(+1) 10%(+1) 22%(NC) 22%(NC)
BQ 10%(NC) 41%(+1)
GPC 07%(-1) 03%(-5) 06%(-2) 06%(-1) 08%(-1)
Err 3.1% 9.8% 6.3% 5.6% 5.2%
Und 14%(-2) 15%(-5) 18%(+1) 14%(-2) 12%(-2)
In article <e2lhe4h2cov64p3oe...@4ax.com>,
Today the battlefield is Atlantic Canada. LAyton and Harper wants to
try to break the Liberal hold thiere. 32 seats up for Grabs.
Montreal is about 25 seats and the rest of Quebec is 50 seats.
If the CPC vote is faltering and it looks to early to say LPC/BQ race,
then Harper may get <10 seats east of the Ontario/Quebec Border.
Ontario is a big one with 106 seats. LPC has >50% of the seats.
So far a deadlock. If the Conservatives slip here,
then the CPC will not have a victory.
Ontario represents 106 seats.
The West , i.e. BC, the Prairies and the Territories.
I cannot see any swings in the Territories this time around.
BC could become a 3 way race.
Alberta, just look around Edmonton for challenges, and the rest, who knows?
Can Calgary West and Calgary SW boot out the incumbents?
Sask 2 seats to watch for LPC/CPC and Denesthe and Wascana.
The rest will be CPC/NDP races.
Man 3 way race. Recall Liberals won 12/14 seats in 1993.
Loaf of Bread
> I hate to top post but today's polls shows an interesting trend
One poll hardly makes a trend.
Sharx35
"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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The idiotic assholes in Toronto, no doubt, readily agree. If I was STILL a
member of the NDP which I WAS for over TWENTY years, I'd have a TOUGH time
supporting Layton. I would NOT have voted for him in a NDP leadership race.
Tommy Douglas, OTOH, was great. Ed Broadbent was magisterial in comparison
with used car salesman Layton.
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $On Oct 5, 2:32 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> I hate to top post but today's polls shows an interesting trend
> $
> $One poll hardly makes a trend.
Absolutely!!
Especially when this would represent a radical departure
from what was being reported daily for the last four weeks.
Given it is a poll of a limited number of respondents, and
the statistical sample is only going to be accurate to
within +/- 3% to 5% nineteen times out of twent, a radical
departure could just as easily mean we are dealing with the
one time in twenty the poll is out to lunch.
If anything, the poll data from multiple polls reported
through the Globe and Mail suggests the Liberals got a bit
of a bounce right after the French language debate, but this
has since returned to values closer to the pre-debate
results.
At the moment, I'd be more inclined to view the doctor's
jumping on a single abberant Nanos poll result as indicating
a change in trend in the same vien as the doctor's nonsense
last provincial election where he tried to apply the results
of a 630 CHED online poll to the entire province of Alberta.
As was pointed out at the time, a 630 CHED online poll is
more likely to reflect the a group of radio listeners who
are largely located in the greater Edmonton area. Hence, it
is definitely not reflective of the entire provincial
population, and may not even be reflective of the entire
Edmonton population.
And as those of us who lurk in edm.general know, in the end
the Liberals were blown out of the water, contrary to the
doctor's predictions based on the 630 CHED poll.
John Fleming
> $news:0pfhe4dcq39vpgef7...@4ax.com...
> $> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:19:51 GMT, while chained to a desk in
> $> the scriptorium "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $>> $"MI Wakefield" <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> $>> $news:48e7e9bf$0$10348$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
> $>> $> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $>> $> news:gc8pmf$aoc$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
> $>> $>>
> $>> $>> CPC 35%(NC) 31%(+5) 17%(-3) 36%(NC) 48%(+1)
> $>> $>> NDP 19%(+1) 21%(-1) 09%(-2) 22%(+3) 22%(+2)
> $>> $>> BQ 10%(NC) 40%(+1)
> $>> $>> GPC 08%(-1) 08%(-2) 8%(+1) 7%(-3) 9%(NC)
> $>> $>> Err 3.1% 10.2% 6.3% 5.7% 5.2%
> $>> $>> Und 16%(MC) 20%(+2) 17%(-1) 16%(+1) 14%(-2)
> $>> $>
> $>> $> http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-4-2008E.pdf
> $>> $>
> $>> $> The impact of English debate performances can be seen in the
> $>> $> Indicators poll:
> $>> $>
> $>> $> Harper: Trust +2, Competence +6, Vision for Canada + 2
> $>> $
> $>> $Layton, the shill for Toronto, is a complete buffoon.
> $> For a buffoon, he's not doing too badly.
> $
> $The idiotic assholes in Toronto, no doubt, readily agree. If I was STILL a
> $member of the NDP which I WAS for over TWENTY years, I'd have a TOUGH time
> $supporting Layton. I would NOT have voted for him in a NDP leadership race.
> $Tommy Douglas, OTOH, was great. Ed Broadbent was magisterial in comparison
> $with used car salesman Layton.
I may be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an
NDP breakthrough in the GTA where they ran second in a
several ridings last election.
On top of that, the NDP is a logical alternative for
Liberals who are unhappy with Dion, but who are part of the
Anybody But Harper camp.
> $>> $> Dion: -5, -10, -4
> $>> $> May: +3, -1, +1
> $>> $> Duceppe: +1, NC, NC
> $>> $>
> $>> $>
> $>
> $> --
> $>
> $> John Fleming
> $> Edmonton, Canada
> $>
> $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> $> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> $> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> $> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
John Fleming
in the scriptorium John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:36:06 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> $desk in the scriptorium Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com>
> $wrote:
> $> $On Oct 5, 2:32 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> $> I hate to top post but today's polls shows an interesting trend
> $> $
> $> $One poll hardly makes a trend.
> $Absolutely!!
> $
> $Especially when this would represent a radical departure
> $from what was being reported daily for the last four weeks.
> $
> $Given it is a poll of a limited number of respondents, and
> $the statistical sample is only going to be accurate to
> $within +/- 3% to 5% nineteen times out of twent, a radical
> $departure could just as easily mean we are dealing with the
> $one time in twenty the poll is out to lunch.
> $
> $If anything, the poll data from multiple polls reported
> $through the Globe and Mail suggests the Liberals got a bit
> $of a bounce right after the French language debate, but this
> $has since returned to values closer to the pre-debate
> $results.
> $
> $At the moment, I'd be more inclined to view the doctor's
> $jumping on a single abberant Nanos poll result as indicating
> $a change in trend in the same vien as the doctor's nonsense
> $last provincial election where he tried to apply the results
> $of a 630 CHED online poll to the entire province of Alberta.
> $As was pointed out at the time, a 630 CHED online poll is
> $more likely to reflect the a group of radio listeners who
> $are largely located in the greater Edmonton area. Hence, it
> $is definitely not reflective of the entire provincial
> $population, and may not even be reflective of the entire
> $Edmonton population.
> $
> $And as those of us who lurk in edm.general know, in the end
> $the Liberals were blown out of the water, contrary to the
> $doctor's predictions based on the 630 CHED poll.
As an addition, the latest Harris-Decima poll shows a dip in
Conservative support. But given that the poll is a rolling
poll and covers Wednesday to Saturday, and so would show any
effects of the leadership debates.
Interestingly enough, the Harris-Decima poll shows the
Conservatives and the Liberals tied in Ontario. In Atlantic
Canada, they show the Conservatives, the NDP and the
Liberals in a statistical dead heat. The Conservatives
ahead of the Liberals in Quebec and well ahead of the
Liberals in BC.
Also, the NDP and the Greens are bleeding the Liberals of
support among female voters.
http://www.harrisdecima.com/en/downloads/pdf/news_releases/081004E.pdf
Sharx35
The Doctor
MI Wakefield
Snip!
> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than the
NDP?
The Doctor
Loaf of Bread
> In article <48e9f8a3$0$10390$9a6e1...@news.newshosting.com>,
>
> MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >news:gcd5t3$qa2$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> >Snip!
>
> >> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
>
> >Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
>
> >What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than the
> >NDP?
>
> Layton elected Harper last time.
Bullshit.
You're just trying to blame someone else instead of accepting
responsibility.
Face it. Splitting votes on the left with the NDP never stopped
Trudeau and Chretien from forming *majority* Liberal governments.
MI Wakefield
> In article <48e9f8a3$0$10390$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
> MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:gcd5t3$qa2$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>
>>Snip!
>>
>>> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
>>
>>Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
>>
>>What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than
>>the
>>NDP?
>>
>>
>
> Layton elected Harper last time.
Repeating it without answering the question doesn't make it any truer.
Loaf of Bread
> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <48e9f8a3$0$10390$9a6e1...@news.newshosting.com>,
> > MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:gcd5t3$qa2$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> >>Snip!
>
> >>> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
>
> >>Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
>
> >>What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than
> >>the
> >>NDP?
>
> > Layton elected Harper last time.
>
> Repeating it without answering the question doesn't make it any truer.
Maybe the doctor is trying to take a page from Joseph Goebbels'
propaganda book. I was thinking of the page where it says if you
repeat a lie often enough people will start to believe it.
The Doctor
MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:gcdiop$grn$3...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <48e9f8a3$0$10390$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
>> MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:gcd5t3$qa2$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>
>>>Snip!
>>>
>>>> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
>>>
>>>Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
>>>
>>>What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than
>>>the
>>>NDP?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Layton elected Harper last time.
>
>Repeating it without answering the question doesn't make it any truer.
>
>
Then Blog to http://www.nk.ca/~doctor/blog/
Canadian Politics section.
And for today's Nanos Poll:
Canada Atlantic Quebec Ontario West
CPC 34%(NC) 32%(+1) 18%(+2) 33(-2) 46%(-1)
LPC 29%(-1) 38%(-6) 23%(-5) 37%(NC) 24%(+1)
NDP 20%(+1) 28%(+6) 10%(NC) 24%(+2) 21%(-1)
BQ 11%(+1) 44%(+3)
GPC 6%(-1) 2%(-1) 5%(-1) 6%(NC) 9%(+1)
Err 3.1% 10.0% 6.3% 5.6% 5.2%
Und 15%(+1) 15%(NC) 20%(+2) 14%(NC) 11%(-1)
PV
> In article <48ea35c8$0$10375$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
> MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Repeating it without answering the question doesn't make it any truer.
>>
>>
>
> Then Blog to http://www.nk.ca/~doctor/blog/
>
> Canadian Politics section.
>
> And for today's Nanos Poll:
>
<snip>
Trying to quote your own blog to back up your statement is pretty damn
useless there Doc. Besides after a quick scan of pirated newspaper articles
and your own gibberish (he blogs like he posts on usenet), I can't find any
proof of your statement "Layton elected Harper last time".
Does the Edmonton Journal know you are cutting and pasting their articles?
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Edmonton Journal, contact JournalSearch
Can you post your permission Doc? Before I notify the Journal and other
media outlets of your stealing of copyright materials?
That must be against the TOS? Oh wait, directly from the Acceptable use
policy:
http://www.nk.ca/acceptableuse.shtml
"Copyrighted material may not be placed on NetKnow's system without the
author's express permission. The user is responsible for determining whether
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"Any user found to be in violation of 1 or more of the above policies will
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So now you are in violation of 1 or more policies, will you disable or
terminate your own account?
--
PV
Do not compute the totality of your poultry population before the
manifestations of incubation have ceased.
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John Fleming
> $news:gcd5t3$qa2$2...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $
> $Snip!
> $
> $> Layton got Harper elected by splitting the vote.
> $
> $Or "Martin got Harper elected by splitting the vote".
> $
> $What makes the Liberals more entitled to the left/centre-left vote than the
> $NDP?
Right now, I would argue the NDP is more entitled to it.
After all, when the writ was dropped, they were ready to
fight this election. The Liberals weren't.
Compared to the NDP, the Liberals IMO have run a very poor
election campaign. Ditto when compared with the Greens.
And those are the three parties that are trying to attact
the support on the left and centre-left vote.
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> In article <48ea35c8$0$10375$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
> $> MI Wakefield <bed...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> $>>
> $<snip>
> $
> $>> Repeating it without answering the question doesn't make it any truer.
> $>>
> $>>
> $>
> $> Then Blog to http://www.nk.ca/~doctor/blog/
> $>
> $> Canadian Politics section.
> $>
> $> And for today's Nanos Poll:
> $>
> $<snip>
> $
> $Trying to quote your own blog to back up your statement is pretty damn
> $useless there Doc. Besides after a quick scan of pirated newspaper articles
> $and your own gibberish (he blogs like he posts on usenet), I can't find any
> $proof of your statement "Layton elected Harper last time".
It is kind of sad, isn't it?
> $Does the Edmonton Journal know you are cutting and pasting their articles?
> $
> $http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/subscribe/help.html#permissionarticle
> $
> $*Do I need permission to reprint an article or photograph that has appeared
> $in the Edmonton Journal?*
> $Yes. Edmonton Journal content is protected by copyright. To obtain
> $permission to reprint articles or photographs that have appeared in the
> $Edmonton Journal, contact JournalSearch
Actually, I think you could post an article from the Journal
without permission if it is taken from an edition of the
Journal that is at least 50 years old. Not that a
commentary on an election from the mid 1950s is all that
relevant today.
> $Can you post your permission Doc? Before I notify the Journal and other
> $media outlets of your stealing of copyright materials?
I'm guessing he is taking a page out of Robert Peffers'
posting book.
> $That must be against the TOS? Oh wait, directly from the Acceptable use
> $policy:
> $
> $http://www.nk.ca/acceptableuse.shtml
> $"Copyrighted material may not be placed on NetKnow's system without the
> $author's express permission. The user is responsible for determining whether
> $such material is copyrighted and its terms of use."
> $
> $"Any user found to be in violation of 1 or more of the above policies will
> $have their account disabled or if the violation is severe enough,
> $terminated. A refund may or may not be give (at the discretion of NetKnow"
> $
> $So now you are in violation of 1 or more policies, will you disable or
> $terminate your own account?
Loaf of Bread
> Then Blog tohttp://www.nk.ca/~doctor/blog/
Right.
<rolls eyes>
May I suggest you go down to the library and do some real research and
quote some unbiased sources?