Liberal Slease - Leak of Martin memoirs sends Liberals scrambling
John Fleming
Leak of Martin memoirs sends Liberals scrambling
DANIEL LEBLANC
From Monday's Globe and Mail
October 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM EDT
OTTAWA — The Liberals scrambled to contain the fallout
of Paul Martin's scathing autobiography yesterday,
fearing their election campaign could be derailed by
accusations that Jean Chrétien deliberately undermined
the party before his 2003 retirement.
Entitled Hell or High Water, the book is a first-hand
account of Mr. Martin's problem-filled stint as prime
minister, and will revisit more than a decade of
Martin-Chrétien infighting when it is officially
released at the end of the month.
Mr. Martin gives much of the blame for the short life
of his government to Mr. Chrétien, saying his
predecessor is responsible for the sponsorship
scandal's political fallout and the Liberal Party's
subsequent funding woes.
The book's content was revealed in a Montreal newspaper
Monday, and Liberal officials quickly clamped down on
any public statement for fear of turning the attention
away from their campaign for the Oct. 14 election.
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While an autobiography will attempt to paint its writer--in
this cas former Prime Minister Paul Martin--in as positive
light as possible, I'm guessing the general gist of the
facts presented are generally accurate.
No wonder the Liberals are doing damage control.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
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PV
> Leak of Martin memoirs sends Liberals scrambling
>
> DANIEL LEBLANC
> From Monday's Globe and Mail
> October 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM EDT
>
> of Paul Martin's scathing autobiography yesterday,
> fearing their election campaign could be derailed by
> accusations that Jean Chrétien deliberately undermined
> the party before his 2003 retirement.
>
> Entitled Hell or High Water, the book is a first-hand
> account of Mr. Martin's problem-filled stint as prime
> minister, and will revisit more than a decade of
> Martin-Chrétien infighting when it is officially
> released at the end of the month.
>
> Mr. Martin gives much of the blame for the short life
> of his government to Mr. Chrétien, saying his
> predecessor is responsible for the sponsorship
> scandal's political fallout and the Liberal Party's
> subsequent funding woes.
>
> The book's content was revealed in a Montreal newspaper
> Monday, and Liberal officials quickly clamped down on
> any public statement for fear of turning the attention
> away from their campaign for the Oct. 14 election.
>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081006.welectionmartin07/BNStory/Front
>
> While an autobiography will attempt to paint its writer--in
> this cas former Prime Minister Paul Martin--in as positive
> light as possible, I'm guessing the general gist of the
> facts presented are generally accurate.
>
> No wonder the Liberals are doing damage control.
What a shame there are no clear cut issues in the (yawn) election, instead
it has degenrated to a playground shouting match that would embarass most 5
year olds.
This whole election is a total waste of time and money, the Governor General
should have refused to dissolve parliament since according to the new law,
there was no lack of confidence vote lost by the Tories.
Ideally the Tories should be back in power with even a smaller minority then
the last election and the NDP as the officlal opposition, followed closely
by the Greens. The Liberals and BQ reduced to the fewest seats in history.
I find it interesting that Harper threatened to stop the flow of bitumen
south, a direct violation of Provincial control of our resources, and our
mighty Premier(?) has not uttered a peep of protest. Has Stephen clamped
Stelmach's mouth just like he did Ralph's?
--
PV
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manifestations of incubation have ceased.
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Canuck57
"PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote in message
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I wrote Stelmach on this. Haven't hear a thing from him.
NEP II will do at least one thing, revive the needed separatist parties. We
need to get out of confederation.
John Fleming
the scriptorium "PV" <edr...@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote:
> $John Fleming wrote:
> $> Leak of Martin memoirs sends Liberals scrambling
> $>
> $> DANIEL LEBLANC
> $> From Monday's Globe and Mail
> $> October 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM EDT
> $>
> $> OTTAWA - The Liberals scrambled to contain the fallout
> $> of Paul Martin's scathing autobiography yesterday,
> $> fearing their election campaign could be derailed by
> $> accusations that Jean Chrétien deliberately undermined
> $> the party before his 2003 retirement.
> $>
> $> Entitled Hell or High Water, the book is a first-hand
> $> account of Mr. Martin's problem-filled stint as prime
> $> minister, and will revisit more than a decade of
> $> Martin-Chrétien infighting when it is officially
> $> released at the end of the month.
> $>
> $> Mr. Martin gives much of the blame for the short life
> $> of his government to Mr. Chrétien, saying his
> $> predecessor is responsible for the sponsorship
> $> scandal's political fallout and the Liberal Party's
> $> subsequent funding woes.
> $>
> $> The book's content was revealed in a Montreal newspaper
> $> Monday, and Liberal officials quickly clamped down on
> $> any public statement for fear of turning the attention
> $> away from their campaign for the Oct. 14 election.
> $>
> $>
> $> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081006.welectionmartin07/BNStory/Front
> $>
> $> While an autobiography will attempt to paint its writer--in
> $> this cas former Prime Minister Paul Martin--in as positive
> $> light as possible, I'm guessing the general gist of the
> $> facts presented are generally accurate.
> $>
> $> No wonder the Liberals are doing damage control.
> $
> $What a shame there are no clear cut issues in the (yawn) election, instead
> $it has degenrated to a playground shouting match that would embarass most 5
> $year olds.
It's not even that there aren't any clear cut issues. There
are.
It's just that our two major parties are putting more energy
into making each other look bad, and the parties that are
covering the issues (NDP, Greens) don't get quite the same
coverage is the two biggies.
> $This whole election is a total waste of time and money, the Governor General
> $should have refused to dissolve parliament since according to the new law,
> $there was no lack of confidence vote lost by the Tories.
I believe Harper could ask to disolve parliament if it
ceased to function.
This evening on one of the all candidate forums on 630 CHED
one of the candidates was commenting the various standing
committees were ceasing to function. Now it may have been a
biased view from the Conservative candidate, but over the
last couple of years I've been following the work of one of
the standing committees fairly closely, and the candidate's
comments certainly describe the committee I was following.
Whether or not you agree the motion that was used to bog
down the committee was germane to the work of the committee
or not, the fact is if effectively shut the committee down.
Anyway, Harper would have to make a case that parliament was
no longer functional, and he apparently was able to argue
that to the satisfaction of the GG.
> $Ideally the Tories should be back in power with even a smaller minority then
> $the last election and the NDP as the officlal opposition, followed closely
> $by the Greens. The Liberals and BQ reduced to the fewest seats in history.
I would like to see the NDP as official opposition.
However, for your scenario to become reality, there would
have to be a lot of changes in the views of voters over the
next week.
> $I find it interesting that Harper threatened to stop the flow of bitumen
> $south, a direct violation of Provincial control of our resources, and our
> $mighty Premier(?) has not uttered a peep of protest. Has Stephen clamped
> $Stelmach's mouth just like he did Ralph's?
Stelmach did utter a peep of protest at the time the policy
was announce IIRC.
But I think this issue, along with a lot of other issues,
was pushed off the radar screen when the convulsions of the
financial markets errupted.
The Doctor
That was Mike Lake Mp Edm Millwoods Beaumont who said that.
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>> $What a shame there are no clear cut issues in the (yawn) election,
>> instead
>> $it has degenrated to a playground shouting match that would embarass
>> most 5
>> $year olds.
>
> It's not even that there aren't any clear cut issues. There
> are.
>
> It's just that our two major parties are putting more energy
> into making each other look bad, and the parties that are
> covering the issues (NDP, Greens) don't get quite the same
> coverage is the two biggies.
NDP, Lib and Greens, they have no meaning other than to drag it into the
mud.
They don't even listen to the people before they get to vote. How hard is
it to hear ZERO NEW TAXES, TAX ROLLBACK TIME!
While the Liberals did say no new taxes, we have also heard it for over 30
years of mostly liberal governments that increase taxes and debt. No
credibility in the lot.
Mind you Harpo lied on Thurday. Did you see the news on the $12 billion
more from the Bnk of Canada? And we are not in touble. LoL. I am sure he
knoew this was coming and just thought he could get a quick election over
first.
Mind you, this economic crisis is so huge, no party could come close to
stopping it. It has been 20 years in the making from liberal fiscal
managment and now the bubble has popped. Wait until some Canadian stats
come out a few days after the election.
>> $This whole election is a total waste of time and money, the Governor
>> General
>> $should have refused to dissolve parliament since according to the new
>> law,
>> $there was no lack of confidence vote lost by the Tories.
>
> I believe Harper could ask to disolve parliament if it
> ceased to function.
Pretty much automatic if a non-confidence vote passed.
> I would like to see the NDP as official opposition.
Ya, why not. Maybe 4 or 8 years as back benchers will smarten up the
Liberals to get back in touch with the people. Which is the kind of party
the people want but don't have.
> However, for your scenario to become reality, there would
> have to be a lot of changes in the views of voters over the
> next week.
My guess, minority conservative government, NDP up in seats slightly but not
quite enough to nail the liberals, 2-3 short. Liberals down slightly, Cons
about the same as with the Bloc. May and Greenies, flash in the pan as
people will reject the tax consequences. Possibly 1 token seat and it will
not be May.
One notical demographic change will be major parties, Cons, Lib and NDP will
lose a little vote share to Independants, Greens, CHP, Libertarians and
other showing a greater disconetment. Which is the pimary reason for NDP
growth as well.
>> $I find it interesting that Harper threatened to stop the flow of bitumen
>> $south, a direct violation of Provincial control of our resources, and
>> our
>> $mighty Premier(?) has not uttered a peep of protest. Has Stephen
>> clamped
>> $Stelmach's mouth just like he did Ralph's?
>
> Stelmach did utter a peep of protest at the time the policy
> was announce IIRC.
>
> But I think this issue, along with a lot of other issues,
> was pushed off the radar screen when the convulsions of the
> financial markets errupted.
Yep, Harpo is pssing in his Alberta back yard on that one. I will predict
Harpo wins his seat but will have a lot less votes than last time. A lot
less.
Liar PoC he is.
I wrote Stelmach, not a peep. He had better watch it. If Stelmach does not
just say no to Harpo on NEP II, I will proactively with cash and time see to
it that I get to as many doors as possible to get a separation thing
happen....a little more than 3 years and counting. NEP II is just what
Alberta needs to wake up and get out of confederation.