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Chris  
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 More options Jun 14 2003, 8:30 am
Newsgroups: cam.transport
From: Chris <ch...@x.invalid>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:30:37 +0100
Local: Sat, Jun 14 2003 8:30 am
Subject: Re: Narrow Cycle Lanes?

Tim Ward wrote:
> Let's see a proof of that, please? Based on the actual figures for the
> actual roundabout, please, not the nonsensical stuff about 0.2 accidents per
> year we've seen posted here earlier (complete gibberish, that, as no area
> with 0.2 accidents per year would get anywhere near the top of the priority
> list so the statistical significance in fluctuations of samples with an
> average of 0.2/pa are of no relevance whatsoever)

OK. Let's consider a site with an intrinsic accident rate
of 10/year. (This isn't far off the Mitcham's Corner
statistics, which have led to extensive works.) Some
traffic work is done which increases the intrinsic rate
to 15/year. Here's a possible accident history:

Accidents before, by year:
  5  11   6  13  15  11  14   9  13  12   7  11  16  11  15  11   6 *19*  6   8
         22  30  34  39  40  34  36  34  32  30  34  38 *42* 37  32  36  31  33   3 year total

Accidents after, by year:
11  15  14  20  24  21  14  15  15  12  14   8  18  12  18  18  20  13  12  13
         40  49  58  65  59  50  44  42  41  34  40  38  48  48  56  51  45  38   3 year total

Suppose that some work is done following the year in
which 19 accidents occured. What is the probability that
the following year will see fewer than 19 accidents?

(Code: http://ex-parrot.com/~chris/tmp/poisson)

  n P(n, before)       P(n, after)
             cumul.             cumul.
-- -------- --------  -------- --------
15 0.034718 0.951260  0.102436 0.568090
16 0.021699 0.972958  0.096034 0.664123
17 0.012764 0.985722  0.084736 0.748859
18 0.007091 0.992813  0.070613 0.819472 <----
19 0.003732 0.996546  0.055747 0.875219

Answer: 0.82.

This is pretty disastrous. But don't worry, apparently in
reality three-year totals are used.

What about in the three year case? Let's say changes are
implemented in the case where 42 accidents occur in a
three-year interval. What is the probability that fewer
will take place in the next three years?

  n P3(n, before)      P3(n, after)
             cumul.             cumul.
-- -------- --------  -------- --------
38 0.024169 0.935156  0.036333 0.166459
39 0.018591 0.953747  0.041923 0.208382
40 0.013943 0.967690  0.047163 0.255545
41 0.010203 0.977893  0.051765 0.307310 <----
42 0.007288 0.985180  0.055462 0.362772

Answer: 0.31.

This is a bit better -- by comparison. But note that if you
were to apply this process to a bunch of sites with an
accident rate of 10/year, then you'd still fail to spot your
mistakes on approximately one in three occasiouns.

--
Chris Lightfoot, chris at ex dash parrot dot com; http://ex-parrot.com/~chris/
I don't care who the audience picks/
I'd rather be killed with a big sharp stick....
   (`How'd The Date End?', The Mr. T Experience)


 
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