Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe punter could do this - Boots?
Hugh Barnes wrote: > Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
Depends when you need it. It's available from beauty product stockists, as it's used for removing false nails, nail varnish and hair extensions, apparently. Search eBay for "acetone", and you'll find, for instance, a 500ml bottle for GBP 1.20, up to a 5 litre bottle for 8.95.
If you need larger volumes, it's used in the fibre-glass industry, so seek out those sorts of suppliers.
On or about 2008-01-30, Hugh Barnes <hb10...@cus.cam.ac.uk> illuminated us with:
> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
Not sure about Boots, but I'd expect my local chemist to be able to supply, possibly with some advance warning. Or it's quite easy to find online if you can get deliveries easily.
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Hugh Barnes wrote: > Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
Hugh Barnes wrote: > Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
I have a feeling that sales of acetone on Cambridge might spike after this.
Some people have raised the question of whether added acetone might dissolve some plastic components in the fuel system. I don't have enough organic chemistry to know whether anything that isn't dissolved by petrol might still be attacked by acetone. Any ideas?
Quote: : The author has never found any valid reason for not using acetone in : gasoline or diesel fuel. Plus it takes such a tiny amount to work. No wonder : they fear this additive.
The Loan Arranger wrote: > Hugh Barnes wrote: >> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre >> or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe >> punter could do this - Boots?
> I have a feeling that sales of acetone on Cambridge might spike after this.
> Some people have raised the question of whether added acetone might > dissolve some plastic components in the fuel system. I don't have enough > organic chemistry to know whether anything that isn't dissolved by > petrol might still be attacked by acetone. Any ideas?
> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre > or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
The Loan Arranger wrote: > Hugh Barnes wrote: >> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre >> or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe >> punter could do this - Boots?
> I have a feeling that sales of acetone on Cambridge might spike after this.
> Some people have raised the question of whether added acetone might > dissolve some plastic components in the fuel system. I don't have enough > organic chemistry to know whether anything that isn't dissolved by > petrol might still be attacked by acetone. Any ideas?
> TLA
I spent nearly a year testing it in my bike trying different amounts at random to eliminate trends such as change of petrol composition with season, petrol supplier etc. Within 5% it made no difference to consumption. It did make starting on cold mornings easier.
The benefit is probably to improve fuel octane and therefore will only benefit engines using knock detectors (not my bike) and fuel of poor enough quality to make the knock detector cut in if no acetone is added.
Acetone certainly will dissolve many things that petrol won't but the quantity needed in the reports is tiny so fuel line damage is unlikely.
> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre > or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > punter could do this - Boots?
I've got a bottle ... not as much as a litre though. I can't remember who gave it to me or where it came from, I've had it for decades, but I would not be astonished if its origin were some university lab.
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> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or
two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe
> punter could do this - Boots?
> cheers
> Hugh
Nail varnish remover typically contains Acetone. Well except for all the "Acetone free" types! Got some recently to see if it would remove masking tape residue. It didn't.
On 30 Jan 2008 13:41:00 GMT, hb10...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Hugh Barnes) wrote:
>Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe >punter could do this - Boots?
>cheers
>Hugh
Just don't ask for the Hydrogen Peroxide at the same time....
In article <fnpupc$ec...@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Hugh Barnes <hb10...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or > two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe punter could > do this - Boots?
We use acetone as a cleaning fluid for circuit boards during repair.
Doesn't use a lot, but when we need more we simply order it from Lloyds.
Yes, they do ask what we require it for.
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In article <4f69b0d557News+13...@Torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens <News+13...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
>In article <fnpupc$ec...@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, > Hugh Barnes <hb10...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote: >> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or >> two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe punter could >> do this - Boots?
>We use acetone as a cleaning fluid for circuit boards during repair.
>Doesn't use a lot, but when we need more we simply order it from Lloyds.
This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer (along with everything else). We also used to use it for cleaning printed circuit boards and sheet metal.
daz9643 wrote: > This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer
No it doesn't.
From WIKI
Toxicology
Acetone is an irritant and inhalation may lead to hepatotoxic effects (causing liver damage). The vapors should be avoided. In no circumstance should it be consumed directly or indirectly. Always use goggles when handling acetone; it can cause permanent eye damage (corneal clouding).
Small amounts of acetone are metabolically produced in the body, mainly from fat. In humans, fasting significantly increases its endogenous production (see ketosis). Acetone can be elevated in diabetes. Contamination of water, food (e.g. milk), or the air (acetone is volatile) can lead to chronic exposure to acetone. A number of acute poisoning cases have been described. Relatively speaking, acetone is not a very toxic compound; it can, however, damage the mucosa of the mouth and can irritate and damage skin. Accidental intake of large amounts of acetone may lead to unconsciousness and death.
The effects of long-term exposure to acetone are known mostly from animal studies. Kidney, liver, and nerve damage, increased birth defects, and lowered reproduction ability of males (only) occurred in animals exposed long-term. It is not known if these same effects would be exhibited in humans. Pregnant women should avoid contact with acetone and acetone fumes in order to avoid the possibility of birth defects, including brain damage.
Interestingly, acetone has been shown to have anticonvulsant effects in animal models of epilepsy, in the absence of toxicity, when administered in millimolar concentrations.[8] It has been hypothesized that the high fat low carbohydrate ketogenic diet used clinically to control drug-resistant epilepsy in children works by elevating acetone in the brain.[8]
daz9643 wrote: > This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer (along > with everything else). We also used to use it for cleaning printed > circuit boards and sheet metal.
It's not banned by Cambridge Uni. and certainly wasn't regarded as a carcinogen the last time I carried out a risk assessment (last year). It's pretty ubiquitous in our labs as a general purpose solvent, and for photoresist stripping.
Wood dust on the other hand, is regarded as a potential carcinogen...
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Piers Andrew wrote: > daz9643 wrote: >> This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer (along >> with everything else). We also used to use it for cleaning printed >> circuit boards and sheet metal.
> It's not banned by Cambridge Uni. and certainly wasn't regarded as a > carcinogen the last time I carried out a risk assessment (last year).
I'll second this...we have lots of it - for a variety of uses. Listed hazards include Flammable and Irritant, however, Risk Phrase 45 (May cause cancer) is absent from the MSDS and risk assessments that I've seen.
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In article <1201782292.8008...@iris.uk.clara.net>, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> daz9643 wrote: > > This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer > No it doesn't. > From WIKI > Toxicology
[snipped]
In other words it's almost certainly totally harmless unles you are pretty stupid with it!
Acetone is totally miscible with water.
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:47:10 -0000, Piers Andrew <pa...@nospam.ac.uk> wrote:
> daz9643 wrote: >> This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer (along >> with everything else). We also used to use it for cleaning printed >> circuit boards and sheet metal.
> It's not banned by Cambridge Uni. and certainly wasn't regarded as a > carcinogen the last time I carried out a risk assessment (last year). > It's pretty ubiquitous in our labs as a general purpose solvent, and for > photoresist stripping.
> Wood dust on the other hand, is regarded as a potential carcinogen...
> Piers
Some wood dust is truly horrible in all sorts of ways, oak dust is particularly good at corroding wood working machinery.
Richard Torrens wrote: > In article <1201782292.8008...@iris.uk.clara.net>, > The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> daz9643 wrote: >>> This was banned for use in the university as it causes cancer
>> No it doesn't.
>> From WIKI
>> Toxicology
> [snipped]
> In other words it's almost certainly totally harmless unles you are pretty > stupid with it!
No, I never said that. If I use it unventialted withing a minute or two I have a splitting headache that takes a day to clear.
Its POISONOUS
However its hard to kill yourself with it or do long term damage.
Richard Torrens wrote: > In article <fnpupc$ec...@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, > Hugh Barnes <hb10...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote: >> Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a litre or >> two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe punter could >> do this - Boots?
> We use acetone as a cleaning fluid for circuit boards during repair.
> Doesn't use a lot, but when we need more we simply order it from Lloyds.
> Yes, they do ask what we require it for.
OTOH, when my cousin, a farmer, bought significant quantities of poison (for killing rats), and they asked him what it was for, he replied "Poisoning my grandmother", and was given the quantity he requested. The grandmother was well known locally and he would have done do well by her death. So that question is hardly an effective protection,
> *From:* The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> > *Date:* Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:09:58 +0000
> Hugh Barnes wrote: > > Simple question (to those who know the answer) I need to buy a > > litre or two of acetone - can someone suggest where your average Joe > > punter could do this - Boots?
> I have a feeling that sales of acetone on Cambridge might spike after > this.
> Some people have raised the question of whether added acetone might > dissolve some plastic components in the fuel system. I don't have > enough organic chemistry to know whether anything that isn't > dissolved by petrol might still be attacked by acetone. Any ideas?
Acetone is a seriously powerful organic solvent: there are any number of things that petrol won't touch while acetone will go through while barely noticing it's there. Most thermoplastics, for example.
Don't *ever* let acetone near anything that you don't either want to dissolve or you don't already know isn't attacked by it.
