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clemos  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 9:57 am
From: clemos <cl3...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:57:50 +0200
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 9:57 am
Subject: cool editors for using with cakephp
hi list

I was just wondering what editor you use to write your cakephp apps,
and thought it would be cool to share some thoughts about this on the
list.

I'm personnaly using SciteFlash for all PHP, HTML, js, and
actionscript editing so far. it's based on scintilla.
The reason why I'm asking is that I'm beginning to get bored with it.
it's quite cool for single script editing, but for bigger projects,
including cakephp apps, it's not very convenient:
for exemple the editor has tabs for multiple file editing, but the
tabs only show the filename, which is really annoying when editing
views that have the same name from several controllers (say
"/users/edit.thtml" and "/articles/edit.thtml").
moreover this editor is too small to have a file browser inside, which
is annoying regarding the structure of cakephp apps.
I suppose I could change some config stuff to make it more convenient,
but I'm thinking more of finding some other IDE which would better
handle cakephp.

do you use some kind of IDE (like custom Eclipse setups or so to build
and manage your cakephp projects) ?
do you have tips or advices about this (like perhaps integrating
bake.php to a custom IDE, or something like that...) ?

++++++
clemos


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kwdowicz  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:11 am
From: "kwdowicz" <kwdow...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:11:05 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:11 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
im using Notepad++ (on scintilla) on windows to 'just edit a typo', or
Eclipse when i'm working (on windows too.) My old PowerMac has only
256mb ram and Textmate work bad, so i use BBEdit 8, i'm looking for
good editor for OSX

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ShepherdWeb  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:13 am
From: "ShepherdWeb" <shanesheph...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:13:36 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:13 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I'm using Textmate on OS X.  It's pretty good.

I also tried out Eclipse, but it seemed like overkeel for a medium
sized web application.


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nate  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:14 am
From: "nate" <nate.ab...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:14:35 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:14 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I use TextWrangler on Mac, ZDE on PC, and ZDE on Mac only when I
really, really have to.

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Ryan Petrain  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:21 am
From: "Ryan Petrain" <rpetr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:21:14 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:21 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

I am using Eclipse with the php plugin on one machine and using Zend (ZDE)
on my laptop.

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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:38 am
From: "Marcelo de Moraes Serpa" <celose...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:38:45 -0300
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:38 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

Eclipse with PHPEclipse :) even though is´t heavy as hell, it´s very good at
what it does.

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Sonic Baker  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 10:54 am
From: "Sonic Baker" <sonicba...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:54:39 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 10:54 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

I'm using Kate and Quanta (which is built on Kate) on Kubuntu. They're fine
as editors but I am considering switching to somethng better. The problem
is, I can't find anything (free) which has a feature whch would make life
easier. If there was something which had MVC in mind I'd definitely take a
look at that.
Kate and Quanta are nicely light-weight.

Cheers,

Sonic


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MJ Ray  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 11:08 am
From: MJ Ray <m...@ttllp.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:08:43 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 11:08 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
On 2006-07-05 14:57:50 +0100 clemos <cl3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was just wondering what editor you use to write your cakephp apps,
> and thought it would be cool to share some thoughts about this on the
> list.

I still use the retro-style wily because being able to right-click
links between files and search outputs, middle-click executables and
mouse-button-chord cut-and-paste is just too damn addictive.

Hope that helps someone,
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RosSoft  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 11:22 am
From: "RosSoft" <ross...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:22:51 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 11:22 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I use PHPEclipse. It's a must have. It has a debugger

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Gonçalo Marrafa  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 12:03 pm
From: Gonçalo Marrafa <goncalo.marr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:03:04 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
Hi!

Linux is my OS and Emacs(*) is my editor!

(*) with PHP-mode, HTML-Helper-mode and MMM-mode to bind them!

Best regards!

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byBartus  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 12:33 pm
From: "byBartus" <bybar...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:33:09 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
Hi!

I´m using the freeware PSPad (http://www.pspad.com) on WinXP.

Take a look at their characteristics. It's the best i already used.

Like their words:

> do you work with various programming environments ?
> do you like highlighted syntax in code ?
> do you need a small tool with simple controls and the capabilities of a mighty code editor ?
> are you looking for a tool to work with plain text ?
> do you want to save money and still have the functionality of professional products ?
> then PSPad is for you.

Well, i hope that it's useful for somebody.

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Hershel Robinson  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 2:07 pm
From: Hershel Robinson <hers...@galleryrobinson.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:07:53 +0200
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
UltraEdit

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Mika  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 2:53 pm
From: "Mika" <mmihajlo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:53:34 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I used to use and be very happy with Eclipe and the Trustudio eclipe
plugin, but nowdays I use ActiveState's Komodo. It's a commercial
editor but it's really good if you've got the cash.

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John Zimmerman [gmail]  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 3:27 pm
From: "John Zimmerman [gmail]" <john.z...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 12:27:17 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

I have been using just VIM for a while now.  I usually have 3-4 terminals
open with VIM sessions running.  I have my .vimrc file setup so formatting
happens the way I need it to.

I use ditto to keep track of handy copy/pastes.

My main OS is Windows XP, but I use putty to SSH into either my linux test
server or to my hosting service.

I have tried out other IDE's but usually end up going back to my VIM setup.

I have not tried Eclipse or Komodo, but have been thinking about it.

I would like to see something really geared toward CakePHP.

But if you are just looking for a good editor VIM works great for me.

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Ryan Petrain  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 3:30 pm
From: "Ryan Petrain" <rpetr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:30:05 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

It would be nice to see a CakePHP version of RadRails, which is based off of
eclipse.

--Ryan

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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 4:17 pm
From: "Marcelo de Moraes Serpa" <celose...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:17:35 -0300
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

Ryan: I completely agree with you...

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gwoo  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 4:38 pm
From: gwoo <g...@rd11.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:38:15 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
So, Ryan you are going to head up the efforts for a CakePHP editor?
Personally, I use textmate with the Cake.bundle by sdevore.

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Gustavo Carreno  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 5:37 pm
From: "Gustavo Carreno" <gcarreno...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:37:53 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
Hey guys,

I've been using PHPEdit for years and I'm quite fond of it.
Lately I've been evaluating EasyEclipse for PHP. it has a nice set of
features/packages that go well with ANY php job. It comes with
PHPEclipse, SVN, Debug, Database and some more that I don't quite
remember, so get at http://www.easyeclipse.org and choose your
distribution. Dists for all major OS's: Windows, Linux, OS X

I miss some of the editor features from PHPEdit but can quite live without them.
Syntax completion is very good since it parses all the files on your
workspace, including cake/libs if it's under there.

Cheers,
Gustavo Carreno
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henthoca  
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 More options Jul 5 2006, 8:13 pm
From: "henthoca" <henth...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:13:10 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 5 2006 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I've been using EditPlus for my editting on Windows.  It's a pretty
lightweight editor that is extremely customizable and extensible.  My
favorite feature it has is Find In Files, which is my grep replacement
for Windows. I'm always looking for something comprable to it in
Linux...

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chrisE  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 4:42 am
From: "chrisE" <christophe.esp...@adullact.org>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:42:08 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 4:42 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
An usual reply to that kind of question is : the best tool is the one
you best know. In my case, Eclipse (and his embedded CVS client) +
PHPEclipse + Subclipse (SVN client) if necessary + JSEclipse for
javascript files is a perfect dev environnement. It's really worth
spending a few hours on understanding the main Eclipse concepts.

To Clemos :
The Eclipse solution to your multi-tab editing and identical filenames
?
Just mouseover your cursor on tabs and you get the full path of your
files.
More than that : you need more room to edit a given file ? Just
double-click on the corresponding tag and you get your file full-screen
sized. Double-click again to go back to the previous size.
Such trivial features make the coder's life much more easier.


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Matt  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 7:22 am
From: "Matt" <mattatt...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 04:22:20 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 7:22 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp
I use PHPEclipse and I've set it up so I can run the bake.php script in
one of the console windows, which is very convenient.

I setup this up in External Tools with the following settings:

Location: c:\php4\cli\php.exe
Working Directory: ${project_loc}\cake\scripts\
Arguments: bake.php

Someone should details about this in the wiki - is this something
anyone can do?


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Ryan Petrain  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 8:49 am
From: "Ryan Petrain" <rpetr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:49:49 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 8:49 am
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

gwoo,

If I had the experience at setting something like that up I would.  I was
merely saying it be nice.  I have no probs using eclipse with phpeclipse
plugin.

to all: It is interesting to see who is using which editor.  I will have to
look into some of the other plugins for eclipse that have been mentioned.

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John Zimmerman [gmail]  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 1:50 pm
From: "John Zimmerman [gmail]" <john.z...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:50:13 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

Thanks for the easyeclipse.org link.

Anyone have experience with the EasyEclipse for Rails packages?

Do they offer anything that is helpful to you with Rails development that
would be cool to have in Cake development?


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Ryan Petrain  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 2:17 pm
From: "Ryan Petrain" <rpetr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:17:43 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

I know of someone that is using RadRails which is nothing more than eclipse
with a few ruby plugins.
He seems to like it and it does what he needs.  He is only using it for
editing of files.

I commented on how this would be nice to have for cake but I do not have the
skills to implement a cake specific environment on eclipse.

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nate  
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 More options Jul 6 2006, 2:55 pm
From: "nate" <nate.ab...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:55:36 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 6 2006 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: cool editors for using with cakephp

> I commented on how this would be nice to have for cake but I do not have the
> skills to implement a cake specific environment on eclipse.

I think gwoo was kidding ;-)

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it.  If community support for it
is/becomes strong enough, it'll happen one way or another.


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