Maybe it's just me, but I tried to add a comment to an article on the bakery, and it wouldn't show up, and didn't show a error message. So I am going to add it here. I am also going to scour the bakery source to find the root of the issue.
De: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Adam Royle Enviado el: Miércoles, 02 de Enero de 2008 08:34 a.m. Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com Asunto: bakery hates me
Maybe it's just me, but I tried to add a comment to an article on the bakery, and it wouldn't show up, and didn't show a error message. So I am going to add it here. I am also going to scour the bakery source to find the root of the issue.
On Jan 2, 2008 12:27 PM, dr. Hannibal Lecter <lecter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think posting links to Trac solves anything, it is a fact that > bakery has many issues (some minor and some..not so minor).
> Some things should be seriously reconsidered and rewritten. But that's > just my 2c.
I agree, but unless people post tickets to trac specifically outlining the problems they were having, it remains unlikely that the problem will be addressed. That's just the reality of how bugs are handled for this project.
-- Chris Hartjes
My motto for 2007: "Moving from herding elephants to handling snakes."
On Jan 3, 2008 2:40 PM, dr. Hannibal Lecter <lecter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope someone from the Cake team is reading this group and will > notice these comments, otherwise it wouldn't be a 'friendly > community'. :-/
I find the above statement very unfair towards cakePHP team - if we as users are not willing to take an extra step to help out the developers who are giving us all this awesome goodness then I would say that we users are being utterly selfish and do not understand how friendships work!
And FWIW my personal experience is that posting in trac works.
Cheers Tarique
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The reason why I didn't post to trac is being I don't post bugs
without a patch or a solid wya to reproduce. I did download the bakery
source, however I am wondering which version of cake it is using?
Cheers,
Adam
On Jan 3, 7:10 pm, "dr. Hannibal Lecter" <lecter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I find the above statement very unfair towards cakePHP team - if we as
> users are not willing to take an extra step to help out the developers
> who are giving us all this awesome goodness then I would say that we
> users are being utterly selfish and do not understand how friendships
> work!
Well, sorry, it was not my intention to be unfair. I think that the
Cake team is doing a great job each and every day and congratulate
them on that. Don't get me wrong on that.
But it is a bit odd that the same people who can create such great
framework can neglect the presentation layer. Bakery _is_ what most of
the new Cake users see after the official site, and if it's not
usable, what will the newcomers think of the framework itself?
On the other hand, isn't Cake created for us (users/developers)? No
users - no Cake. Of course, *no Cake team - no Cake*; but I'm pretty
sure that core bakers do not code all this for themselves. I would
never say anything against them because that would just plain suck
bigtime. I think that open source is all about sharing and _listening_
to what other people have to say, even if it is something negative.
The day bakers stop doing that will be the end of Cake (or any other
project for that matter). I don't know, I might be seriously wrong, I
guess that's the beauty of it. :-)
(I know the above paragraph will somehow be misinterpreted as bashing
and that I will regret for posting it)
Unfortunately, yes, I use WinXP as primary OS :-/
But you can't beat me with that fact, I've used SuSE for quite some
time too :-P
Due to my work (a company fairly well related to M$ dev tools) and
some games I like to play (never too old to play games:)), I am
oppressed to M$..
Say, would you agree that constructive criticism is good (even when
related to Cake)?
On Jan 3, 2008 9:32 PM, dr. Hannibal Lecter <lecter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Say, would you agree that constructive criticism is good (even when > related to Cake)?
I am sure no one on this group will disagree with giving "constructive criticism" is good -including the CakePHP dev team however I strongly disagree with your definition and presumptions about the same.
This is now indeed getting off topic so EOT for me
Cheers Tarique
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Thanks everybody for pitching in to this thread. However, maybe
someone missed my biggest point.
1. If you read my first post you'll notice I'm bagging out an article
that was approved on the bakery. Did anyone click the link and read
the article - if so, who agrees with my response?
and then later I asked...
2. What version of cake is the bakery running on?
I don't care much for politics, but I would like to help out and fix
what I can, even if that means re-writing half of the bakery.
Cheers,
Adam
On Jan 4, 2:06 am, "Dr. Tarique Sani" <tariques...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:32 PM, dr. Hannibal Lecter <lecter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Say, would you agree that constructive criticism is good (even when
> > related to Cake)?
> I am sure no one on this group will disagree with giving "constructive
> criticism" is good -including the CakePHP dev team however I strongly
> disagree with your definition and presumptions about the same.
> This is now indeed getting off topic so EOT for me
