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Eggs Ackley
May 18, 2013, 11:23:13 AM5/18/13
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Sixty grand in debt, a worthless degree, and no job. You've just been
had.....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17?link=MW_story_popular
had.....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17?link=MW_story_popular
Moses
May 18, 2013, 12:44:14 PM5/18/13
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less then 4%.
Baxter
May 18, 2013, 1:22:47 PM5/18/13
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"Moses" <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote in message
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Depends on the degree:
http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like retail
that normally don't require degrees.
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More than half of America's recent college graduates are either unemployed
or working in a job that doesn't require a bachelor's degree, the Associated
Press reported this weekend.
http://tinyurl.com/ckew4og
About 48 percent of all working college alumni - not just recent graduates -
were underemployed in 2010 as the United States began a slow recovery from
the Great Recession, including 5 million graduates in jobs that require less
than a high school diploma, according to a study from the Center for College
Affordability and Productivity.
http://tinyurl.com/b6jqp8w
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"Moses" <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote in message
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http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like retail
that normally don't require degrees.
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More than half of America's recent college graduates are either unemployed
or working in a job that doesn't require a bachelor's degree, the Associated
Press reported this weekend.
http://tinyurl.com/ckew4og
About 48 percent of all working college alumni - not just recent graduates -
were underemployed in 2010 as the United States began a slow recovery from
the Great Recession, including 5 million graduates in jobs that require less
than a high school diploma, according to a study from the Center for College
Affordability and Productivity.
http://tinyurl.com/b6jqp8w
Moses
May 18, 2013, 3:19:31 PM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:22:47 -0700, "Baxter"
<baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
> Depends on the degree:
> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>
> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like retail
> that normally don't require degrees.
Well if you get a worthless degree then it is your own fault. If you get a
<baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
> Depends on the degree:
> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>
> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like retail
> that normally don't require degrees.
STEM degree you can write your own ticket. Don't go to college and get in
debt if your degree in home economics won't pay off.
Mr. B1ack
May 19, 2013, 3:40:05 AM5/19/13
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Enraged Apostate, World Citizen
May 19, 2013, 9:38:05 AM5/19/13
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Moses <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote on Sat 18 May 2013
12:19:31p
Humanities? Social Sciences? Philosophy? Ethnic/gender studies?
People with degrees in English or other languages?
We have no need for people like that?
We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
satisfying breadth requirements??
--
The Enraged Apostate
Right-wing talking points show a popular appeal in
the same way that trainwrecks are morbidly fascinating.
But soon after the desire to be horrified at the spectacle passes,
the realization soon follows that it is all an ugly, bloody mess,
and it will only be cleaned up with leftist methods and a liberal in charge.
12:19:31p
People with degrees in English or other languages?
We have no need for people like that?
We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
satisfying breadth requirements??
--
The Enraged Apostate
Right-wing talking points show a popular appeal in
the same way that trainwrecks are morbidly fascinating.
But soon after the desire to be horrified at the spectacle passes,
the realization soon follows that it is all an ugly, bloody mess,
and it will only be cleaned up with leftist methods and a liberal in charge.
Moses
May 19, 2013, 1:41:55 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:38:05 +0000 (UTC), in or.politics "Enraged
Apostate, World Citizen" <Finding...@Every.Opportunity.invalid>
wrote:
>Moses <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote on Sat 18 May 2013
>12:19:31p
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:22:47 -0700, "Baxter"
>> <baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the degree:
>>> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>>>
>>> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
>>> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like
>>> retail that normally don't require degrees.
>>
>> Well if you get a worthless degree then it is your own fault. If you get
>> a STEM degree you can write your own ticket. Don't go to college and get
>> in debt if your degree in home economics won't pay off.
>
>Humanities? Social Sciences? Philosophy? Ethnic/gender studies?
>
>People with degrees in English or other languages?
>
>We have no need for people like that?
>
>We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
>satisfying breadth requirements??
No, let the market place dictate the degrees offered. There are
millions of students who have the resources through their families to
pay for a degree in philosophy or English so they should be allowed to
seeks those degrees. We can however influence the market place by
cutting out loans and grants for people seeking such degrees since
they lead to less employment opportunities.
Apostate, World Citizen" <Finding...@Every.Opportunity.invalid>
wrote:
>Moses <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote on Sat 18 May 2013
>12:19:31p
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:22:47 -0700, "Baxter"
>> <baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the degree:
>>> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>>>
>>> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
>>> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like
>>> retail that normally don't require degrees.
>>
>> Well if you get a worthless degree then it is your own fault. If you get
>> a STEM degree you can write your own ticket. Don't go to college and get
>> in debt if your degree in home economics won't pay off.
>
>Humanities? Social Sciences? Philosophy? Ethnic/gender studies?
>
>People with degrees in English or other languages?
>
>We have no need for people like that?
>
>We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
>satisfying breadth requirements??
millions of students who have the resources through their families to
pay for a degree in philosophy or English so they should be allowed to
seeks those degrees. We can however influence the market place by
cutting out loans and grants for people seeking such degrees since
they lead to less employment opportunities.
Baxter
May 19, 2013, 2:15:25 PM5/19/13
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"Enraged Apostate, World Citizen" <Finding...@Every.Opportunity.invalid>
wrote in message news:XnsA1C5442A6F...@78.46.70.116...
> Moses <Moses.of.t...@gmail.com-DESPAM> wrote on Sat 18 May 2013
> 12:19:31p
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:22:47 -0700, "Baxter"
>> <baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the degree:
>>> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>>>
>>> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
>>> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like
>>> retail that normally don't require degrees.
>>
>> Well if you get a worthless degree then it is your own fault. If you get
>> a STEM degree you can write your own ticket. Don't go to college and get
>> in debt if your degree in home economics won't pay off.
>
> Humanities? Social Sciences? Philosophy? Ethnic/gender studies?
>
> People with degrees in English or other languages?
>
> We have no need for people like that?
>
> We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
> satisfying breadth requirements??
>
Architecture is one of the -least- valued degrees -- are we to stop building
> 12:19:31p
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:22:47 -0700, "Baxter"
>> <baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on the degree:
>>> http://education.yahoo.net/articles/valuable_college_degrees.htm
>>>
>>> Also, what is the ROI? Just being employed doesn't mean that degree is
>>> helping you any - a lot of people with degrees are taking jobs like
>>> retail that normally don't require degrees.
>>
>> Well if you get a worthless degree then it is your own fault. If you get
>> a STEM degree you can write your own ticket. Don't go to college and get
>> in debt if your degree in home economics won't pay off.
>
> Humanities? Social Sciences? Philosophy? Ethnic/gender studies?
>
> People with degrees in English or other languages?
>
> We have no need for people like that?
>
> We should tell university administrators to remove those as courses
> satisfying breadth requirements??
>
buildings?
Fine Arts degree? Check the list of jobs for that here:
http://tinyurl.com/cvwjlyr and then tell me it's useless
Enraged Apostate, World Citizen
May 20, 2013, 10:28:14 AM5/20/13
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"Baxter" <baxter.s...@baxcode.com> wrote on Sun 19 May 2013 11:15:25a
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That's an engineering degree, one of the STEM.
If you are talking about architecture having an artistic flair, well, I
don't know how much the architects are given in instruction with putting a
veneer on the structurally sound foundation.
> Fine Arts degree? Check the list of jobs for that here:
> http://tinyurl.com/cvwjlyr and then tell me it's useless
I am not arguing that it is. The other poster(s) to whom I am responding
is/are.
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If you are talking about architecture having an artistic flair, well, I
don't know how much the architects are given in instruction with putting a
veneer on the structurally sound foundation.
> Fine Arts degree? Check the list of jobs for that here:
> http://tinyurl.com/cvwjlyr and then tell me it's useless
is/are.
SmilePlease
May 20, 2013, 7:09:00 PM5/20/13
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I mean why should a computer graduate pay as much for their degree as
a womens study major or french lit or a spanish major.
Or maybe the computer major should pay less since it seems our country
needs them much more then most other majors. If one wants to major in
french liturature that is fine...but no reason for banks to loan them
any money.
Kind of like the army...the cook or supply room clerk makes the same
as a GCA operator in the control tower. IN time of war the infantry
slob should be getting top dollar for sure. And the air force pukes in
the rear...not so much money.
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