[C320-list] re question in regards to water pump

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DOCKL...@aol.com

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May 20, 2011, 3:41:50 PM5/20/11
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I just replaced my salt water pump about 4 hours ago!!!
I did the entire pump replacement instead of the rebuild kit, as my boat is
a 1993 (hull #18), and the original served me well, so time for a rest.
I ordered the pump and "O" ring at TAD (Trans Atlantic Diesels)
(804)642-9286 for my Perkins M-30. Cost was $425.94 with shipping. I received it in 2
days.
It took me about 2 hours to complete the job, as I replaced a 2 hoses while
I was messing around with the pump.
Hope this is what you are looking for.
Alan Shaw


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Today's Topics:

1. Mast tricolor and anchor light (Irving Grunes)
2. Re: Mast tricolor and anchor light (Jeff Hare)
3. Perkins M 30 Coolant pump (Dick Wotruba)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:07:05 -0400
From: Irving Grunes <igr...@gmail.com>
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Subject: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light
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Going up the mast Monday AM.
Can any one supply the part numbers for the anchor light and tricolor
steaming light. And their LED equivalent?
Irv Grunes
2001 #851


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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:01:58 -0400
From: "Jeff Hare" <Cata...@thehares.com>
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light
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Hello Irv,

On our website we have the manual for the Mast/Boom. It lists all the
stock
parts. From there someone may be able to provide you with information
about
upgrading to LED. There have been some changes over time, but I think this
is essentially your mast/boom manual. It matches mine @hull #809
perfectly.

http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt_data/files/Catalina320_Standard_Mast.pdf

-Jeff

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Subject: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light

Going up the mast Monday AM.
Can any one supply the part numbers for the anchor light and tricolor
steaming light. And their LED equivalent?
Irv Grunes
2001 #851

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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Wotruba <wotru...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [C320-list] Perkins M 30 Coolant pump
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Think we need to replace pump(pulley will not turn,frozen)Is it a big
job?what is costs?How do I make certain it needs to be replaced?Thanks Dick
Hull#3 1993 WindSong,santa barbara,Ca.

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Irving Grunes

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May 20, 2011, 3:49:27 PM5/20/11
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Just for info,
We replaced the 3GM30 alternator and pump by buying on Ebay at a very good
price.
Irv Grunes
2001 #851

Jeff Hare

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May 20, 2011, 7:14:22 PM5/20/11
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Bummer Irv,

I have a stock Hitachi 55 alternator off our 2001 #809 Yanmar engine. Its been in storage since spring 2002 with 22hrs on it. We upgraded to a 125amp alternator and never looked back.

-jeff

Irving Grunes <igr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just for info, We replaced the 3GM30 alternator and pump by buying on Ebay at a very good price. Irv Grunes 2001 #851 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 3:41 PM, <DOCKL...@aol.com> wrote: > I just replaced my salt water pump about 4 hours ago!!! > I did the entire pump replacement instead of the rebuild kit, as my boat is > a 1993 (hull #18), and the original served me well, so time for a rest. > I ordered the pump and "O" ring at TAD (Trans Atlantic Diesels) > (804)642-9286 for my Perkins M-30. Cost was $425.94 with shipping. I > received it in 2 > days. > It took me about 2 hours to complete the job, as I replaced a 2 hoses while > I was messing around with the pump. > Hope this is what you are looking for. > Alan Shaw > > > In a message dated 5/20/2011 2:59:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com writes: > > Send C320-list mailing list submissions to > c320...@lists.catalina320.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.catalina320.com/listinfo.cgi/c320-list-catalina320.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > c320-li...@lists.catalina320.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of C320-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mast tricolor and anchor light (Irving Grunes) > 2. Re: Mast tricolor and anchor light (Jeff Hare) > 3. Perkins M 30 Coolant pump (Dick Wotruba) > > >_____________________________________________
> > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:07:05 -0400 > From: Irving Grunes <igr...@gmail.com> > To: C320...@catalina320.com > Subject: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light > Message-ID: <BANLkTikWDPkjqL02...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Going up the mast Monday AM. > Can any one supply the part numbers for the anchor light and tricolor > steaming light. And their LED equivalent? > Irv Grunes > 2001 #851 > > >_____________________________________________
> > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:01:58 -0400 > From: "Jeff Hare" <Cata...@thehares.com> > To: <C320...@Catalina320.com> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light > Message-ID: <000601cc16fe$df901dd0$9eb05970$@thehares.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Irv, > > On our website we have the manual for the Mast/Boom. It lists all the > stock > parts. From there someone may be able to provide you with information > about > upgrading to LED. There have been some changes over time, but I think > this > is essentially your mast/boom manual. It matches mine @hull #809 > perfectly. > > > http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt_data/files/Catalina320_Standard_Mast.pdf > > -Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com > [mailto:c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving > Grunes > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:07 PM > To: C320...@catalina320.com > Subject: [C320-list] Mast tricolor and anchor light > > Going up the mast Monday AM. > Can any one supply the part numbers for the anchor light and tricolor > steaming light. And their LED equivalent? > Irv Grunes > 2001 #851 > > > >_____________________________________________

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May 21, 2011, 9:49:58 AM5/21/11
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Jeff,

What was involved installing the 125 amp alternator. thanks

Don

Jeff Hare

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May 21, 2011, 11:53:28 AM5/21/11
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Mounting the alternator itself was easy. I needed a slightly different belt size and that just took me buying several, finding the one that worked and returning the rest and getting a spare.

Wiring this was a little bit more involved as I ran a new pair of power/ground cables from the alternator back to the main house battery. They were possibly 4 awg I think. These days its pretty easy to install a Balmar regulator and temp sensors back where the water pump is located to control the beast.

Best performance happens with the house batteries rewired in parallel with an added starting battery maintained by a Blue Seas ACR (automatic charging relay).

The simplest config has you starting the engine with the house battery, and the alternator always charging the house bank directly. Essentially put the switch in "1" and forget you even have a 1-2-both switch. If you accidentally draw the house down to where the engine won't start just flip to the other battery position (starting battery) and fire it up, then switch back. Everything atomatically gets recharged as needed.

Easy.

-jeff

Robert Seastream

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May 21, 2011, 7:19:47 PM5/21/11
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All:

We put our sails on today. The wind kicked up as we were securing the
main outhaul in preparation to furling the main, so we decided to furl
it with my wife on the furling line and me just holding the clew and
'walking' it in, then attaching the outhaul later. Unfortunately,
this apparently furled it rather loosely, so that on trying to unfurl,
some of the sailcloth folds on itself and binds in the gate in the
mast to the furler, stopping things. I don't think it's wrapped on
itself beneath the outer folds. Tried to winch it out, no good.
Didn't want to force it, fearing breaking the car for the outhaul on
the boom, or something worse. Going to try tomorrow by attaching a
line to the clew and then directly to one of the jib winches, along
with liberal application of Sailkote along the gate. If that fails,
I'll have to invoke the yard rigger. Anyone else ever suffer this
folly or other such jamming?

Bob Seastream
Intuition # 906

Donald Lawson

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May 21, 2011, 7:41:38 PM5/21/11
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Bob
Although we do not have a mast furling system, we do know Gary Swenson of Ventura Ullman Sails who designs sails for Catalina. He indicates that the main needs to be recut flat occasionally to correctly furl and unfurl. We purchased our 2004 "Mandolin Wind" last month and are new to this Class Association and have a lot to learn. A big step up from our Olson 30 and Santana 3030.
Don and Cindy Lawson
Mandolin Wind #1005

Brad Kuether

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May 21, 2011, 9:11:58 PM5/21/11
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Brian/Carol McLamb

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May 22, 2011, 10:24:04 AM5/22/11
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Hello Robert, Our 2006 has the in mast furler and I had this happen once
last season. Like you I tried to slowly apply winch and also tug on out
haul. Once I retentioned the main halyard to stretch it further towards top
of mast it worked smoothly. This is a temporary fix, and I am sure that the
re-cutting would be a more satisfactory and permanent solution.

BJ s/v Serenity #1075

Barbara Uhlman

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May 22, 2011, 10:41:30 AM5/22/11
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That happened to us once last year also.  I worked the outhaul on the winch
while Bob and another man pulled gently but firmly on first the clew and then
the leech.  Back and forth, outhaul and clew/leech.  Eventually, we got it out
without damage to the sail, but we were plenty worried for awhile.  We
too determined that it had been furled loosely.  Furling sails are great, but
you must pay close attention to tension on all lines while furling/unfurling.

Barb Uhlman
Whisper, #1158


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Hello Robert,  Our 2006 has the in mast furler and I had this happen once

wfl...@aim.com

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May 22, 2011, 1:41:41 PM5/22/11
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This has probably happened to everyone who has in-mast furling. I have had luck pulling the sail out as far as possible without breaking anything, then re-rolling it into the mast with tension on the outhaul then rapidly pulling the outhaul. It may take many cycles but I have always had this work and not damage anything. Just keep working it in and out.

Bill

Robert Seastream

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May 22, 2011, 3:08:09 PM5/22/11
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FIXED IT!!! Thanks to all for the suggestions. The wet weather today
may be the lubricant that was my saviour. Lessons learned: A: The
sail wasn't hoisted enough in that the luff bead was loose. B: NEVER
furl without some tension (ensuring a 'tight' furl) applied. C: Boom
should be raised off parallel slightly when furling (I knew this) to
ensure proper furling, as the sail isn't a perfect triangle. Whatever
our next boat is, it'll have a 'flaking' main. I've no problem with
'externally' furling sails (like our jib), but when they furl into a
mast or boom, problems can arise (operator or other cause) which can
be difficult to correct.

Bob

Dick Walker

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May 22, 2011, 4:51:05 PM5/22/11
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We have had the Charleston. Spar main furler For 11 years and find it to be a great assist for the 2 of us sailing however there are some procedures that must be followed
.
1 if possible head into the wind
2. Do not have the main halyard too tight or too loose
3 make sure you have a tight wrap


Cheers

Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA
619.435.8986

Jon Vez

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May 22, 2011, 5:05:48 PM5/22/11
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This is of interest as I am about to own an in-mast furler. Just curious if
these are all Charlston spars or are some of these Seldens? I'm sure it
doesn't really matter as conceptually the same issues would apply. I was
very leery of owning a boat with an in-mast furler, but it would have been
problematic ($$) to change it out. Do any of you have vertical battens?

Regards,

Jon Vez

David Swanson

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May 22, 2011, 5:24:34 PM5/22/11
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We have a Selden In-Mast Furler on our 2007 C320 MK II and we love it. As with anything boating, just be careful how you use it and it will provide yeas of trouble free service. Ours has always worked great. I will not go back to flaked sails as we sail shorthanded quite a bit and the furling system is very convenient, safer in higher winds, and reliable. Ours also has vertical battens. Take the advice provided by Dick Walker and it works very well. I believe that C320's have both the Charleston and Selden In-Mast Furling systems.

David Swanson
S/V Emily Ann
2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107
Mukilteo, WA

David Swanson
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Jon Vez

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May 22, 2011, 5:39:23 PM5/22/11
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Thanks David--mine will be a Selden. You are absolutely correct about
learning the quirks of any boat-wise systems! Very much like the
Dutchman--many dislike it because if you don't get the procedure down it can
be very frustrating. I found it to be terrific, but I learned how to use it
correctly--so to with the furling main....

Barbara Uhlman

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May 22, 2011, 7:30:56 PM5/22/11
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We have Selden in-mast with vertical battens. Shortly before getting it, Bob was talking to an older man, but probably younger than Bob, with a C350, and Bob asked him how he liked his "in-mast.  The man replied by asking Bob if he wanted to be sailing at 95.  Bob, of course, replied yes.  The man then said to get in-mast.  Geriatric sailing, I call it!!  Love, it.
 
Barb Uhlman
Whisper, #1158

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Len

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May 22, 2011, 10:21:19 PM5/22/11
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TIME TO THINK ABOUT IN-BOOM FURLING.

LEN
AQUA5
MARINA DEL REY

Robert Seastream

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May 23, 2011, 7:34:52 AM5/23/11
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That was my original preference, however we didn't buy the boat new.
Going forward, any boat we buy will have an old school flaking main.

Bob

Jon Vez

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May 23, 2011, 9:32:00 AM5/23/11
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Barb,

This is exactly the perspective we used to convince ourselves that the
in-mast furler would be okay. Although we are on the 'younger side', we
bought this boat anticipating it would be our last--so hopefully it will
keep us sailing until we can't function any longer :)
Interestingly, we were at the dealer yesterday looking at the boat and a
prospective buyer stopped by to look at the boat (again). His wife said,
'Pete is 79 and I told him if we don't get a boat with In-Mast furling, our
sailing career is over!'. They are currently owners of a Sabre that they
love (their 2nd or 3rd), but they said they thought the value proposition of
the newer style Catalina's makes sense for them...
If the dealer doesn't screw it up (an entirely different thread), looks like
Catalina has another convert....

wfl...@aim.com

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I have the Selden system with vertical battens. It works great, much better than the US Spar dual line system on my last boat (Beneteau). I've been using in-mast for the past 9 years and I wouldn't get a boat without it. I'm obviously not the only one who feels that way because in-mast is now standard on all new 355s and 375s. Last Saturday after a very gusty shifty day on the lake, dock mates were sitting around enjoying well deserved cocktails and relaxing. Very suddenly, the clouds turned black, the temperature dropped and, for we in tornado alley who know what's coming, went to work getting sail ties secured and sail covers on before the rain and wind really hit. Those of us with in-mast enjoyed watching them scurry around and voiced support as we continued with our relaxing and cocktails.

Yet another advantage of in-mast furling.

Robert Seastream

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May 23, 2011, 3:26:48 PM5/23/11
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Going forward (next boat), IF only roller furling main was available,
I'd opt for in boom. That way if it jams (and you're in a blow), you
can still drop the main and secure it externally to the boom. If in
mast jams, the best you can do is shove the foot of the sail towards
the mast and secure it as best you can. Previously I said I'd like to
have an 'old school' flaking main. However, if I want to keep sailing
later in life (when I'm less physically able), in boom might be the
solution on our next boat.

Bob

Jane & Ken

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May 23, 2011, 9:31:02 PM5/23/11
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In boom is the only safe way to go----I do not understand the in mast furling--DUH

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wfl...@aim.com

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In 9 years with in-mast furling, I have never had a problem furling the main which so many folks (who apparently don't have in-mast furling) seem to fret about. I have had occasional trouble deploying the main as a result of not being vigilant furling it and getting some wrinkles in the sail that jammed it. I'm sure in-boom furling is great but I enjoy my loose footed main and just haven't experienced what some folks seem to fear. Once in-boom becomes standard, I'd sure consider it but either way I wouldn't go back to slab reefing and sail flaking.

John Frost

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Jun 1, 2011, 11:00:36 AM6/1/11
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One advantage of in mast vs in boom is you don't have to lift the weight of the sail with in mast. That goes to Barb's "Geriatric Sailing" observation. The 46' cat I am leaving in Tortolla today took 3 men to raise the sail comfortably. Not a problem for 4 couples, but would be for 1 couple.


Of course in boom is easier to batten and I assume can be lowered even if jammed. Like most of life, every thing has it's pluses and minuses.

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John

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