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yml  
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 More options Jan 9 2010, 6:55 pm
From: yml <yann.ma...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 15:55:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Jan 9 2010 6:55 pm
Subject: virtualenv pip and company
Hello,

Congratulation for byteflow it hits the sweet spot of my requirements
and I am really happy with its capacity. I have been testing it for
some days and I have nothing to say except it is rich project focus on
blogging which is nice. No that I have done my choice and that
Byteflow is the winner !!!!   :-)

I need to deploy it and this is what I would like to discuss here,
Byteflow is built on the logic that everything is included and it just
run. This is a very compelling argument for people that just want to
test Byteflow but it becomes a bit of a pain as soon as you want to
deploy it. The fact that a lot of external library are stored inside
Byteflow obfuscate the difference between dependency and Byteflow
internal code. It makes it hard to integrate into a large django
project.  In addition to this it leads you to hack the PYTHONPATH into
the settings.py to avoid the installation the dependency.

I believe that it is possible to keep the quality of the first user
experience (easy to install) without having to suffer from the
monolithic/duplication of code later on.

This can be achieve by using distutils (setup.py) / virtualenv / pip.
In order to prove this I have started a branch on bitbucket
http://bitbucket.org/yml/byteflow/. The goal is to solve the ticket
#148 and #140. At this stage I think that it works now it needs to be
fine tune to freeze the different package to the required version.

I would be glad to hear from you on whether or not such approach could
be eventually merge into trunk.

#140 -- http://byteflow.su/ticket/140
#148 -- http://byteflow.su/ticket/148


 
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Alexander Solovyov  
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 More options Jan 10 2010, 3:58 pm
From: "Alexander Solovyov" <pira...@piranha.org.ua>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:58:10 +0200
Local: Sun, Jan 10 2010 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: virtualenv pip and company

On 2010-01-10, yml wrote:
> blogging which is nice. No that I have done my choice and that
> Byteflow is the winner !!!!   :-)

Nice to hear that. :-)

> This can be achieve by using distutils (setup.py) / virtualenv / pip.
> In order to prove this I have started a branch on bitbucket
> http://bitbucket.org/yml/byteflow/. The goal is to solve the ticket
> #148 and #140. At this stage I think that it works now it needs to be
> fine tune to freeze the different package to the required version.
> I would be glad to hear from you on whether or not such approach could
> be eventually merge into trunk.

Yeah, using virtualenv sounds nice, though I had some problems with it
recently... I'll try if this works for me.

By the way, I have thought about another possibility - using buildout to
fetch dependecies; I've been exposed to it and it looks quite
powerful. But having you already done some changes to bring byteflow in
pip/virtualenv, I'll first play with your changes in next few days. :-)

--
Alexander

 
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