Mahabharata computational work links

[Nagaraj Paturi]

http://mahabharata.manipal.edu/#/search

For Mahabharata Tatparyanirnaya

http://mahabharata.manipal.edu/#/mbtnsearch

[K S Kannan]

Not clear what we can search here.

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[Shashi Joshi]

For any search string, it says 0 results found.

Even for Vyasa and Mahabharata, it returned 0.

Which, at a philosophical level is indeed the crux of life and creation.

Thanks,
Shashi

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[K S Kannan]

I was also rewarded zeroes!

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[shankara]

Namaste,

It seems the input has to be in Devanagari. I searched for व्यास. Result is copied below.

regards
shankara

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[K S Kannan]

Thank you

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[Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi]

There seem to be some glitches, I got zeros for ईरिणं

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[Anil]

Respected sir, 

Please provide search string in Devangari (UTF8). In my case, it gave 225 results for (BORI, KUMBHKONAM and SASTRI VAVILLAI ( http://mahabharata.manipal.edu/#/search ) and 3 results found in  MAHABHARATA TATPARYANIRNAYA (http://mahabharata.manipal.edu/#/mbtnsearc ). Very soon more encoding options will be provided in this interface. 

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[Anil]

Please try the word ईरिण with Advanced Search Option or try the word ईरिणे. I think the word ईरिणं is not there in Mahabharata. For ईरिणे, its providing one result in Kumbhakonam. 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

We have members who are involved in the project. More feedback will help them improve the work. 

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

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[Anil]

Respected sir,

I found the wod ईरिणं in अनुशासनपर्व in कुम्भकोणम् at end of the chapter. Kindly let me know is this what you are looking for?? 

13-259-3 भूमित्वं त्यक्त्वा ब्रह्मणः पदं गमिष्यामीति सम्बन्धः ॥ 13-259-11 उचथ्यार्थे तु चार्वङ्गी परं नियममास्थिता । इति झ.पाठः ॥ 13-259-12 सोमः ददामीत्युक्त्वा ददावित्यध्याहारेण योजना । ददावत्रिर्यशस्विनीमिति झ.पाठः । अत्रिः सोमपिता ॥ 13-259-16 देवो वरुणः । तया भद्रकया ॥ 13-259-25 दर्शयस्व बिलं भद्रे इति क.पाठः ॥ 13-259-26 ईरिणं ऊषरप्रदेशः । समुद्रश्चापसर्पतेति क.पाठः ॥ 13-259-27 अपुण्य एष भवित्विति झ.पाठः ॥ 13-259-29 दुःखाद्वरुणं चैव हैहयेति झ.पाठः । जगद्वरुणं च दुःखान्मुमोच मोचयामास ॥

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[Shashi Joshi]

Thank you Anil for that tip.

This should be mentioned right next to the search field.

A sincere feedback.

Do consider input in Roman also.

And allow loose search.

E.g. allow hrasva and deergha matching for same vowel.

Dasa  should match दश, दास, दशा, दस, 

Kula to match कुल,  कूल

This will help in two ways.

- If searcher doesn't know exact spelling, will still get results.
- Two, it gives related words, and one discovers new things.

Is the corpus , back data available for programtic usage? E.g. if I want to process the data through my own code, would it be available? Or is the data not available except through this interface.

Thanks,
Shashi

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[rniyengar]

Both the forms ईरिणं and इरिणं  appear in MB: See BORI online Edn. (Kyoto Univ)

 Adi Parvan Ch 64

0010640013/.raajaa.mRga.prasangena.vanam.anyad.viveza.ha.//

0010640021/.eka;eva.uttama.balah.kSut.pipaasaa.samanvitah./

0010640023/.sa.vanasya.antam.aasaadya.mahad.iiriNam.aasadat.//

0010640031/.tac.ca.apy.atiitya.nRpatir.uttama.aazrama.samyutam./

0010640033/.manah.prahlaada.jananam.dRSTi.kaantam.atiiva.ca./

0010640035/.ziita.maaruta.samyuktam.jagaama.anyan.mahad.vanam.//

0010640041/.puSpitaih.paadapaih.kiirNam.atiiva.sukha.zaadvalam./

0010640043/.vipulam.madhura.aaraavair.naaditam.vihagais.tathaa.//

AnuS' parvan Ch.139

0131390221/.naaradasya.vacah.zrutvaa.kruddhah.praajvalad.angiraah./

0131390223/.apibat.tejasaa.vaari.viSTabhya.su.mahaa.tapaah.//

0131390231/.piiyamaane.ca.sarvasmims.toye.vai.salila.iizvarah./

0131390233/.suhRdbhih.kSipyamaaNo.api.na.eva.amuncata.taam.tadaa.//

0131390241/.tatah.kruddho.abraviid.bhuumim.utathyo.braahmaNa.uttamah./

0131390243/.darzayasva.sthalam.bhadre.SaT.sahasra.zata.hradam.//

0131390251/.tatas.tad.iriNam.jaatam.samudraz.ca.apasarpitah./

0131390253/.tasmaad.dezaan.nadiim.caiva.provaaca.asau.dvija.uttamah.//

0131390261/.adRzyaa.gaccha.bhiiru.tvam.sarasvati.marum.prati./

0131390263/.apuNya;eSa.bhavatu.dezas.tyaktas.tvayaa.zubhe.//

0131390271/.tasmin.samcuurNite.deze.bhadraam.aadaaya.vaaripah./

0131390273/.adadaat.zaraNam.gatvaa.bhaaryaam.aangirasaaya.vai.//

0131390281/.pratigRhya.tu.taam.bhaaryaam.utathyah.su.manaa.abhavat./[samdhi]

RN Iyengar

[Narayan Prasad]

Namaste.

I received 6 instances for कुर्मि.

But zero result for आनर्च्छत् and आनर्च्छद्, which definitely occurs in the Mahaabhaarata.

Regards

Narayan Prasad

[Mārcis Gasūns]

I use http://mahabharata.manipal.edu/#/simdissim for my work on Mahabharata since last half a year and yes - it finally has fixed some bad mistakes on all the sites I was aware of before. FINALLY I see BORI that is like real BORI, thanks.

[Gowtham R]

Dear All,

Namaste!

Thank you for your views and suggestions.

The most problems/issues mentioned in the previous conversations are related to the 'Search results'. Here, I would like to tell you about the specialty of the "Advance option". If the word ’व्यास" given to the search, the result shows only the exact matches of व्यास and not व्यासस्य or व्यासे. If the Advance option is selected, then it shows the other related results like व्यासः, व्यासम्, व्यासागमनम्, etc. Please try with the Advance option. Even, if any result is not found, please let us know.

Narayana Prasad Ji, also I tried with आनर्च्छ and the screenshot of the result attached with this mail.

Thank you.

Gowtham

MAHE Mahabharata Project

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[Narayan Prasad]

Namaste.

<<Narayana Prasad Ji, also I tried with आनर्च्छ and the screenshot of the result attached with this mail.>>

I asked for "आनर्च्छत् or आनर्च्छद्" (i.e. लिट्+लङ् form)  and not the regular form आनर्च्छ.

Regards

Narayan Prasad

[Gowtham R]

Sir, the results are mentioned below and in that first two for लिट् forms and the third one is लङ्. But while searching, I gave just आनर्च्छ.

आनर्च्छतुः शरैर्घोरैस्तक्षमाणौ परस्परम्KK/06/04/045/013aआनर्च्छतुश्शरैस्तीक्ष्णैस् तक्षमाणौ परस्परम्SV/06/04/042/012cगाङ्गेयस्तु रणे पार्थम् आनर्च्छन्नवभिश्शरैःSV/06/04/047/043a

I attached the same as an image with the previous mail.

Gowtham

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[Narayan Prasad]

Sir,

   Could you tell me which corpus of Mahabharata is being used for search?

If it is only the main text (excluding footnotes and appendices) of the critical edition, it is not that useful.

I search for आनर्च्छत्, but I do not get any result. But definitely it occurs in Mahabharata (Gita Press).

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[Roland Steiner]

> If it is only the main text (excluding footnotes and appendices) of the
> critical edition, it is not that useful.
> I search for आनर्च्छत्, but I do not get any result. But definitely it
> occurs in Mahabharata (Gita Press).

Mahābhārata (crit. ed.):

4.64.29d*1116_5: caturbhiḥ punar ānarcchad bhīṣmaṃ śāṃtavanaṃ raṇe

7.106.0*823_3: rādheyo bhīmam ānarcchad yuddhāya bharatarṣabha

8.10.17c: sārathiṃ tribhir ānarcchad dhvajam ekeṣuṇā tataḥ

Source:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.html#MBh

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Roland Steiner

[Mārcis Gasūns]

On Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:17:25 UTC+3, Gowtham wrote:

The most problems/issues mentioned in the previous conversations are related to the 'Search results'. Here, I would like to tell you about the specialty of the "Advance option". If the word ’व्यास" given to the search, the result shows only the exact matches of व्यास and not व्यासस्य or व्यासे. If the Advance option is selected, then it shows the other related results like व्यासः, व्यासम्, व्यासागमनम्, etc. Please try with the Advance option. Even, if any result is not found, please let us know.

Do you know how https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/2020/web/webtc2/index.php works? That's Advanced search indeed. I can help to show how it works, if you are ready to develop the UI further. 

[Roland Steiner]

> Do you know how
> https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/2020/web/webtc2/index.php
> works? That's Advanced search indeed.

See also: "Nachtragswörterbuch des Sanskrit" (= a cumulative
supplemental dictionary of Sanskrit):

https://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en

Best,
Roland Steiner

[Mārcis Gasūns]

https://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en contains new works, as Elizarenkova 1996f - so it's Slaje behind it? There is no date and year when it was started as far as I can see.

[Roland Steiner]

> so it's Slaje behind it?

It is not clear to me what this strange formulation is meant to express.

> There is no date and year when it was started as far as I can see.

https://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en

Best,
Roland Steiner

[Mārcis Gasūns]

On Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:55:08 UTC+3, Roland Steiner wrote:

> so it's Slaje behind it?

It is not clear to me what this strange formulation is meant to express.

Who inspired the work?

 

> There is no date and year when it was started as far as I can see.

https://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en

It is said it started in 2013, strange, because https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/PWScan/disp2/index.php

we there by that time available.

[Roland Steiner]

> It is said it started in 2013, strange,
> because
> https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/PWScan/disp2/index.php
> we there by that time available.

There is nothing strange about it, because it is a "kumulatives Nachtragswörterbuch zu den Petersburger Wörterbüchern (pw) von Otto Böhtlingk und den Nachträgen von Richard Schmidt" (= "a cumulative supplementary dictionary to the Petersburg dictionaries (pw) by Otto Böhtlingk and the supplements by Richard Schmidt"-

Description:

"[...] For a more detailed assessment of the search results, the following remarks about the construction of the portal and its three components, the NWS (left), pw (middle) and Schmidt (right) may be of help. First of all, the object of the project funded for three years by the DFG was a cumulative search of a large number of „Nachträge“ (addenda), which resulted in the NWS (left). The left window will display only information not contained in pw or Schmidt. This means that, for instance, the dictionaries of Edgerton and Grassmann are not contained in the NWS as a complete set of data, merely what is missing in the pw is given. The idea behind the portal was to allow the user to review all three sources of lexical information at a glance. The data of the pw and of Schmidt were given to our project for this purpose by Thomas Malten, Köln. Basically they are identical with the data in the background of the Cologne Dictionary Project, but there are obvious modifications to the presentation on screen, and perhaps more importantly, we have started to apply our own corrections to the data, which will thus fork into a new śākhā.

Unfortunately this history of the portal needs to be kept in mind for using the search tools. Only the addenda in the NWS were fully tagged by the present project, whereas the data from the Cologne project could not be reworked in this way. For this reason, all specifications of search only apply to the left window. The same limitation affects the information popping up during lemma entry: the suggestions are taken from a list of NWS lemmata, not of pw lemmata! It is also worth noting that the popups are not static, but change with further inputs. If one tries to search for vyavahāra, entering the first six letters produces the correct lemma. If one continues entering letters, the system produces further lemmata, for instance compounds as vyavahārapāda etc., which are generated from NWS entries only. The difference is made clear when one actually starts the search, which yields many more hits. [...]"

Full Description:
https://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=en

Best,
Roland Steiner

[Anil]

Respected sir,

After Using Advance Option (Pattern Search), I could be able to find 37 instances of आनर्च्छत् in Mahabharata. We are improving it more and very soon you would have a flexible search option with more encoding options where this kind of problems will not occur. At present, if you have some idea about pattern matching or regular expression, you can use advance search option. 

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[Mārcis Gasūns]

Dear Anil,

On Wednesday, 27 May 2020 22:05:46 UTC+3, Anil Gupta wrote:

After Using Advance Option (Pattern Search), I could be able to find 37 instances of आनर्च्छत् in Mahabharata. We are improving it more and very soon you would have a flexible search option with more encoding options where this kind of problems will not occur. At present, if you have some idea about pattern matching or regular expression, you can use advance search option. 

This is what I call a concordance https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/wcwoAICmC98