Namaskaarah.
> Namaste.
>>This Mantrapushpa is common in all worships whether the deity is Siva or
>> Vishnu. Hence it is indicator of "paratatva".
> ABSOLUTELY TRUE. That observation was mailed as reply to author/me by
> an esteemed member.
> Part of the "Dandaka" is suitably amended to fit into the context of
> Siva or Vishnu(etc)
> as the case may be. Like, "Nandi-Bhringi-Chanda-Kundodara-Patanjali-
> Vyaghrapada-
> Vinayaka-Shanmukhadyaih sakalapramathaganasevitasevyamanasya...." for
> Siva and
> for Vishnu something else.
> As the line of thought got gravitated towards Siva under whom Kubera
> functions
> the reference got delimited. (As Eshana, Siva is adhipati of the NE
> direction)
>>The interpretation as its being applicable to Shiva exclusively, may be far
>> fetched
> as any of these names may be used in the thousand names of any God and
> could be made
> applicable to the deity. In our region, it is used in the mantrapushpa
> after the end
> of any worship (not exclusively of Shiva).
> That was another pertinent observation from another esteemed member.
> These two
> posts are obviously caused by my apparent emphasis on Siva due to lack
> of diligent
> thought editing.
> Thanks to both of them.
> HOWEVER, the following query demands discussion in a new direction,
> while the first
> query as to the brotherhood of Vaishravana and Kubera is still kept
> pending.
> IT IS THIS:
>>After all, what was puzzling me is what is the place of this mantra in the
> mantrapuShpa than being a mantra without any specific reference to the
> deity
> in whose worship this is used.
> One possible answer to the puzzle is that Kubera, being the Deity in
> charge
> of Nidhi-Wealth-Sampat, has got to be specifically invoked in the
> congregational
> gathering in any temple for tapping the resources for the welfare of
> all. Keeping in
> mind the "TATHASTU" in chorus by the brahmins mainly and others in the
> gathering
> in the temples, this becomes obvious.
> In the Panchayatana Puja of any of the five Devatas, this Kubera
> Mantra is used
> with this intention and reason during/after the last Mangalarati.
> HERE AGAIN, Smarta traditions and Vaishnava traditons do differ. What
> matters
> is one's own Upasana, parampara and upadesha.
> Pranams.
> On 3 Mar, 02:13, "Dr. S. Ramakrishna Sharma"
> <d.ramakrishn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Namaste.
>> This mantra referred to is (known to me) used as part of "Mantrapushpam",
>> for Lord Shiva in temples in Dandaka style: Om devadevOthama,
>> devatAsArvabhauma, akhilAndakotibrahmAndanAyaka...... .
>> ...NidhanapatayE namah, NidhanapatAnthikAya namah... etc(Taittiriya
>> Aranyaka?).
>> Besides, it may be noted that these are names used extolling Lord Shiva.
>> He
>> is RajAdhirAja.
>> NrttAvasAnE NatarAjarAjO.. also refers to Him as RajarAja.
>> Further, (still to be investigated) whether there are yaksha brothers
>> having
>> same names under reference or not, like Tumburu- Narada pairs?
>> Again, in viniyoga what is the place of these such as parivAra, Avarana or
>> upa-gaNa?
>> Thanks for initiating this line of thought.
>> Regards.
>> 2010/3/2 hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
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>> > Here is the Mantra suggesting the identification of Kubera and
>> > Vaishravana
>> > as the Maharaja otherwise Rajadhiraja known in lexicons Raajaraaja like
>> > Amara and the custodian of all the treasures.
>> > ॐ राजाधिराजाय प्रसह्य साहिने नमो वयं वैश्रवणाय कुर्महे। स मे कामान्
>> > कामकामाय मह्यं कामेश्वरो वैश्रवणो ददातु। कुबेराय वैश्रवणाय महाराजाय नमः।
>> > I could not find the source for this, but I had learnt this since my
>> > childhood. Amara also identifies both the names as synonyms (Amara
>> > 1.1.68-69). Mr. Prabhakar has not quoted the relevant portion of Aruna
>> > Prashna which suggested that Vaishravana and Kubera are brothers. If it
>> > is
>> > available, it could have been further considered on its justification.
>> > Vaishravana and Ravana are brothers, as both were born of the sage
>> > Vishravas. Etymologically both names have been explained as VishravasaH
>> > apatyam - the stem taking both the forms VishravaNa and ravaNa before
>> > it is
>> > derived giving the derivation of the required forms.
>> > With regards
>> > 2010/3/3 Dr. S. Ramakrishna Sharma <d.ramakrishn...@gmail.com>
>> >> ==are vaisravana and kubera brothers.?if so how about their mythology.
>> >> aruna prasna suggests the names are different and they are brothers.
>> >> vaisravana is not synonymn to kubera.
>> >> regards.
>> >> prabhakar ==
>> >> Thank you, Sri C.L Prabhakar Ji for the above query. I love to use the
>> >> facility of language choice available in the other mail account which
>> >> is
>> >> not visible in this mail dialogue box. Hence, I typed it there and
>> >> pasted
>> >> the draft here.(director.c...@gmail.com)
>> >> Namaste, All.
>> >> While seeking meaning/s to anything which belongs to our BhAratiya
>> >> culture let us keep in mind the following. Although this post may seem
>> >> to appear lengthy, whatever I have "seen" while posting this is crucial
>> >> and relevant to seeking "Indian meaning" to Indian Culture.
>> >> As Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore rightly and powerfully put it,
>> >> ".....the last meaning points to Thee."-Gitanjali.
>> >> People take the meaning that pleases them. And yet, culture being
>> >> a set of living values and meanings intergenerationally transferred
>> >> in and through living we need to adhere to our ways of deriving the
>> >> meanings. And the following criteria are to be followed.
>> >> * श्रुतिस्म्रुतिपुराण -इतिहासानाम एकवाक्यता (- तत्तु समन्वयात) |
>> >> * अध्यात्म-अधिभूत-अधिदैव-अर्थ-समन्वय: |
>> >> * श्रुति-युक्ति-अनुभव-दृष्टान्त-समन्वय: |
>> >> For this to be achieved first we should unlearn whatever English
>> >> opium has taught us.
>> >> We do not have Myths and Mythology in the Western sense.
>> >> We have to refer to मंत्रशास्त्र to refer to the ध्यानश्लोका: of
>> >> देवता:
>> >> to find out
>> >> the identity of वैश्रवण and कुबेर |
>> >> Hope to get them soon.
>> >> इति साधनसम्पदाशी, सज्जनविधेय:
>> >> रामकृष्णशर्मा |
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>> >> Aangirasa/Dr.S.Ramakrishna Sharma.
>> >> M.A.,Ph.D.(Eng.Lit.),Ph.D.(Sanskrit.).
>> >> --
>> >> अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
>> >> ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
>> >> तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
>> >> निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
>> > --
>> > Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
>> > EFEO,
>> > PONDICHERRY
>> --
>> Aangirasa/Dr.Ramakrishna Sharma. M.A.,Ph.D.(Eng.Lit.),Ph.D.(Sanskrit.).
> --
> अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
> ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
> तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
> निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
