dear all it is intriguing us for sometime. when we offer tarpana for our fathers it is uttered as नरसिंहशर्माणं तर्पयामि but if the person is female we use across the regions as रुक्मिणीदां तर्पयामि. same is found in texts like dharmasindhu etc. also. what is the meaning of this दां or दायीं a slight variant used by some? please explain this usage.
-- Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi Head, Dept of Darshanas, Yoganandacharya Bhavan, Jagadguru Ramanandacharya Rajasthan Samskrita University, Madau, post Bhankrota, Jaipur, 302026.
Sir, I made a guess. It could be wrong. But I tried an etymology in the following way: दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दा दानस्वीकर्त्री। रुक्मिणी च असौ दा च रुक्मिणीदा, ताम् रुक्मिणीदाम्। दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दायी दानस्वीकर्त्री। दा दाने इत्यतो घञ्। आतो युक्चिण्कृतोः (७.३.३३) इति युक्। रुक्मिणी च असौ दायी च रुक्मिणीदायी, ताम् रुक्मिणीदायीम्। The Kaushitaka Brahmins perform श्राद्ध to their mothers like रुक्मिणीदे ! एतत्तेऽन्नम्, रुक्मिणीदे ! अवनेनिङ्क्ष्व। etc. etc. (here रुक्मिणी is a default name)
I request the grammarians to correct me. Regards, Narayanan
>________________________________ > From: Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veera...@gmail.com> >To: bvparishat <bvparishat@googlegroups.com> >Sent: Friday, 6 July 2012 8:54 PM >Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} meaning of 'daa'
>dear all >it is intriguing us for sometime. when we offer tarpana for our fathers it is uttered as नरसिंहशर्माणं तर्पयामि but if the person is female we use across the regions as रुक्मिणीदां तर्पयामि. same is found in texts like dharmasindhu etc. also. what is the meaning of this
दां or दायीं a slight variant used by some? please explain this usage.
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thanks. it is quite ok. there is no problem of etymology. we can derive anything from anything following vyakarana. what is more interesting is why this peculiar form used only for wemen and not for men? there must be some historical background for this usage. hope somebody will shed light on this.
> Sir, > I made a guess. It could be wrong. But I tried an etymology in the > following way: > दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दा दानस्वीकर्त्री। रुक्मिणी च असौ > दा च रुक्मिणीदा, ताम् रुक्मिणीदाम्। > दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दायी दानस्वीकर्त्री। दा दाने इत्यतो > घञ्। आतो युक्चिण्कृतोः (७.३.३३) इति युक्। रुक्मिणी च असौ दायी च > रुक्मिणीदायी, ताम् रुक्मिणीदायीम्। > The Kaushitaka Brahmins perform श्राद्ध to their mothers like रुक्मिणीदे ! > एतत्तेऽन्नम्, रुक्मिणीदे ! अवनेनिङ्क्ष्व। etc. etc. (here रुक्मिणी is a > default name) > I request the grammarians to correct me. > Regards, > Narayanan
> ------------------------------ > *From:* Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veera...@gmail.com> > *To:* bvparishat <bvparishat@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 6 July 2012 8:54 PM > *Subject:* {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} meaning of 'daa'
> dear all > it is intriguing us for sometime. when we offer tarpana for our fathers it > is uttered as नरसिंहशर्माणं तर्पयामि but if the person is female we use > across the regions as रुक्मिणीदां तर्पयामि. same is found in texts like > dharmasindhu etc. also. what is the meaning of this दां or दायीं a slight > variant used by some? please explain this usage.
> -- > निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.) > to subscribe go to the link below and put a request > https://groups.google.com/group/bvparishat/subscribe > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > bvparishat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
-- Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi Head, Dept of Darshanas, Yoganandacharya Bhavan, Jagadguru Ramanandacharya Rajasthan Samskrita University, Madau, post Bhankrota, Jaipur, 302026.
According to 'याजुषस्मार्तानुक्रमणिका ’ , ’दायीम्’ is to be appended to the name of ' मातृपितामहिप्रपितामह्यः’ and the Purohitas here follow the same during आब्दिक ।
During 'नित्यपितृतर्पणम्’ I say अस्मन्मातरं कौण्डिन्यसगोत्रां दुर्गामहालक्ष्मीं वसुरूपां स्वधा ...।
It seems except गोभिल of पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदय no स्मृतिकार subscribes to such usage .
Kamalakarabhatta of निर्णयसिन्धु is here --
स्त्रीणां दान्तं नाम ज्ञेयम् । दान्तं नाम स्त्रीणाम् इति पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदये गोभिलोक्तेः । केचिद्देवीशब्दान्तमाहुः - अन्ये तु देवी दा इति द्वयोः समुच्चयमाहुः । हेमाद्रौ नारायणः -
> thanks. > it is quite ok. > there is no problem of etymology. we can derive anything from anything > following vyakarana. > what is more interesting is why this peculiar form used only for wemen and > not for men? there must be some historical background for this usage. hope > somebody will shed light on this.
>> Sir, >> I made a guess. It could be wrong. But I tried an etymology in the >> following way: >> दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दा दानस्वीकर्त्री। रुक्मिणी च असौ >> दा च रुक्मिणीदा, ताम् रुक्मिणीदाम्। >> दीयते (पिण्डं, तर्पणं वा) यस्यै इति सा दायी दानस्वीकर्त्री। दा दाने >> इत्यतो घञ्। आतो युक्चिण्कृतोः (७.३.३३) इति युक्। रुक्मिणी च असौ दायी च >> रुक्मिणीदायी, ताम् रुक्मिणीदायीम्। >> The Kaushitaka Brahmins perform श्राद्ध to their mothers like रुक्मिणीदे >> ! एतत्तेऽन्नम्, रुक्मिणीदे ! अवनेनिङ्क्ष्व। etc. etc. (here रुक्मिणी is >> a default name) >> I request the grammarians to correct me. >> Regards, >> Narayanan
>> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veera...@gmail.com> >> *To:* bvparishat <bvparishat@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, 6 July 2012 8:54 PM >> *Subject:* {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} meaning of 'daa'
>> dear all >> it is intriguing us for sometime. when we offer tarpana for our fathers >> it is uttered as नरसिंहशर्माणं तर्पयामि but if the person is female we use >> across the regions as रुक्मिणीदां तर्पयामि. same is found in texts like >> dharmasindhu etc. also. what is the meaning of this दां or दायीं a slight >> variant used by some? please explain this usage.
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> According to 'याजुषस्मार्तानुक्रमणिका ’ , ’दायीम्’ is to be appended to > the name of ' मातृपितामहिप्रपितामह्यः’ and the > Purohitas here follow the same during आब्दिक ।
> During 'नित्यपितृतर्पणम्’ I say अस्मन्मातरं कौण्डिन्यसगोत्रां > दुर्गामहालक्ष्मीं वसुरूपां स्वधा ...।
> It seems except गोभिल of पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदय no स्मृतिकार subscribes to such > usage .
> Kamalakarabhatta of निर्णयसिन्धु is here --
> स्त्रीणां दान्तं नाम ज्ञेयम् । दान्तं नाम स्त्रीणाम् इति पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदये > गोभिलोक्तेः । > केचिद्देवीशब्दान्तमाहुः - अन्ये तु देवी दा इति द्वयोः समुच्चयमाहुः । > हेमाद्रौ नारायणः -
>> According to 'याजुषस्मार्तानुक्रमणिका ’ , ’दायीम्’ is to be appended to >> the name of ' मातृपितामहिप्रपितामह्यः’ and the >> Purohitas here follow the same during आब्दिक ।
>> During 'नित्यपितृतर्पणम्’ I say अस्मन्मातरं कौण्डिन्यसगोत्रां >> दुर्गामहालक्ष्मीं वसुरूपां स्वधा ...।
>> It seems except गोभिल of पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदय no स्मृतिकार subscribes to >> such usage .
>> Kamalakarabhatta of निर्णयसिन्धु is here --
>> स्त्रीणां दान्तं नाम ज्ञेयम् । दान्तं नाम स्त्रीणाम् इति पृथ्वीचन्द्रोदये >> गोभिलोक्तेः । >> केचिद्देवीशब्दान्तमाहुः - अन्ये तु देवी दा इति द्वयोः समुच्चयमाहुः । >> हेमाद्रौ नारायणः -
