IMHO that BB is not of GENERIC interest - but of SPECIFIC interest.
example lots of posts to the bbx and providex lists - becuase questions will deal to 'specifics' of a SPECIFIC & particular flavor of BB
People no longer wonder 'which BB is best for what' or some such 'general' type questions.
([ot] I favor providex+ for best implementation of graphics, utilities, robustness & customer service - actually got Mike King to recompile the basic some 3 times only to add some functionality I needed - and I am probably amongst one of his smallest customers. - the time frame do get him to implement the functionality was anywhere from 48 hours to a week).
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Gary McClellan wrote: > No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
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> IMHO that BB is not of GENERIC interest - but of SPECIFIC interest.
> example lots of posts to the bbx and providex lists - becuase questions > will deal to 'specifics' of a SPECIFIC & particular flavor of BB
> People no longer wonder 'which BB is best for what' or some such 'general' > type questions.
> ([ot] I favor providex+ for best implementation of graphics, utilities, > robustness & customer service - actually got Mike King to recompile the basic some 3 times only to add some functionality I needed - and I am probably amongst one of his smallest customers. - the time frame do get him to implement the functionality was anywhere from 48 hours to a week).
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Gary McClellan wrote:
>> No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
>> Time to close it?
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On Behalf Of Christian Lanctot Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:43 PM To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com Cc: Business Basic Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
What's the Bbx list URL? I'm on the PVX one but I want to be on the Bbx as well.
On 2011-06-14, at 4:16, Sam G <s...@profprog.com> wrote:
> maybe ...
> IMHO that BB is not of GENERIC interest - but of SPECIFIC interest.
> example lots of posts to the bbx and providex lists - becuase questions > will deal to 'specifics' of a SPECIFIC & particular flavor of BB
> People no longer wonder 'which BB is best for what' or some such 'general' > type questions.
> ([ot] I favor providex+ for best implementation of graphics, utilities, > robustness & customer service - actually got Mike King to recompile the basic some 3 times only to add some functionality I needed - and I am probably amongst one of his smallest customers. - the time frame do get him to implement the functionality was anywhere from 48 hours to a week).
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Gary McClellan wrote:
>> No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
>> Time to close it?
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Christian Lanctot wrote: > What's the Bbx list URL? I'm on the PVX one but I want to be on the Bbx as well.
> On 2011-06-14, at 4:16, Sam G <s...@profprog.com> wrote:
>> maybe ...
>> IMHO that BB is not of GENERIC interest - but of SPECIFIC interest.
>> example lots of posts to the bbx and providex lists - becuase questions >> will deal to 'specifics' of a SPECIFIC & particular flavor of BB
>> People no longer wonder 'which BB is best for what' or some such 'general' >> type questions.
>> ([ot] I favor providex+ for best implementation of graphics, utilities, >> robustness & customer service - actually got Mike King to recompile the basic some 3 times only to add some functionality I needed - and I am probably amongst one of his smallest customers. - the time frame do get him to implement the functionality was anywhere from 48 hours to a week).
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Gary McClellan wrote:
>>> No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
>>> Time to close it?
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Thank's a lot Gary for holding the flame for all those years. BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready to help.
My preference would be to leave it open, but logically it makes sense to shut it down. No point spending administration time on something not being used.
Thank you for supporting the BB community all these years, Gary. I know you (and others on this list) have helped me over the years, and I really appreciate it.
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No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
Time to close it?
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> From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> > Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group > To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM > Thank's a lot Gary for holding the > flame for all those years. > BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I > say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready > to help.
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On Behalf Of Pierre Lamirande Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:12 PM To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had some good memories especially idol-iv.
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YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote: > Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had some good memories especially idol-iv.
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That's not strictly true, Sam. BBj implements all of the GUI functionality and syntax of BBx and Visual PRO/5. It also supports an object-oriented syntax, and allows for integration with Java if you choose to use it. But you can run a Visual PRO/5 GUI program in BBj without ever learning anything about object oriented syntax.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Sam G <s...@profprog.com> wrote: > YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they > move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
> I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did > not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause > it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer > to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
> sam
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
> Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had >> some good memories especially idol-iv.
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just curious as to how many "developers" there are out there IN THE US that actually develop a package for sale using Tbred - and not simply supporting legacy apps.
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> -----Original Message----- > From: businessbasic@googlegroups.com [mailto:businessbasic@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Pierre Lamirande > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:12 PM > To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
> Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had > some good memories especially idol-iv.
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I have to agree with Jim here. You do not need to use a single line of Java in your BBj programs to get the application to work.
After saying that, some of the extensions and advantages of using Java code in your application are very nice.
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From: businessbasic@googlegroups.com [mailto:businessbasic@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Douglas Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:49 AM To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
That's not strictly true, Sam. BBj implements all of the GUI functionality and syntax of BBx and Visual PRO/5. It also supports an object-oriented syntax, and allows for integration with Java if you choose to use it. But you can run a Visual PRO/5 GUI program in BBj without ever learning anything about object oriented syntax.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Sam G <s...@profprog.com<mailto:s...@profprog.com>> wrote:
YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
sam
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had some good memories especially idol-iv.
--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com<mailto:don...@telupton.com>> wrote: From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com<mailto:don...@telupton.com>> Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com<mailto:businessbasic@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM Thank's a lot Gary for holding the flame for all those years. BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready to help.
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just that back in 2009 --- when I was desperately seeking work, most of the BBx developers I contacted said "how is your Java?" - when I said I had none they weren't intersted and claimed that to use BBj "effectively" knowledge of java would be paramount. - it doesn't "exactly" contradict what you are saying - but seems to put a lot of "weight" non-the-less.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Jim Douglas wrote: > That's not strictly true, Sam. BBj implements all of the GUI functionality > and syntax of BBx and Visual PRO/5. It also supports an object-oriented > syntax, and allows for integration with Java if you choose to use it. But > you can run a Visual PRO/5 GUI program in BBj without ever learning anything > about object oriented syntax.
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Sam G <s...@profprog.com> wrote:
>> YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they >> move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
>> I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did >> not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause >> it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer >> to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
>> sam
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
>> Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had >>> some good memories especially idol-iv.
>>> --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> wrote:
>>> From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group >>>> To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM >>>> Thank's a lot Gary for holding the >>>> flame for all those years. >>>> BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I >>>> say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready >>>> to help.
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It won't harm stating a little over java. I didn't know anything before, and just with some examples and little mixing with bbx code, you start really fast, and after some time, you get use to it, and then you preffer to you an object than a nmemonic to handle the windows objects.
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> YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they > move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
> I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did > not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause > it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer > to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
> sam
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
>> Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had >> some good memories especially idol-iv.
>> --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> wrote:
>>> From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> >>> Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group >>> To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com >>> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM >>> Thank's a lot Gary for holding the >>> flame for all those years. >>> BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I >>> say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready >>> to help.
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OSAS Software is both CHUI and GUI and BBj based but does not rely upon Object Oriented code. You can still program generic BBx without having to program specifically in BBj.
I agree with Andrew. To this point in over 3 ½ years I have not added a line of Java code to any of my programs.
Leslie
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From: businessbasic@googlegroups.com [mailto:businessbasic@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Douglas Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 7:49 AM To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
That's not strictly true, Sam. BBj implements all of the GUI functionality and syntax of BBx and Visual PRO/5. It also supports an object-oriented syntax, and allows for integration with Java if you choose to use it. But you can run a Visual PRO/5 GUI program in BBj without ever learning anything about object oriented syntax.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Sam G <s...@profprog.com> wrote:
YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
sam
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had some good memories especially idol-iv.
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From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM Thank's a lot Gary for holding the flame for all those years. BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready to help.
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gr8 already know how to handle 'objects' using the OOP within Providex both internal & outside active-x controls.
still - when I was looking for work in 2009 - all the BBj developers were asking me "how is your Java" and slam-dunking me down when I said have OOP experience - but not Java.
so ....
just going by what I heard - from at lest 2 maybe 3 developers
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Sergio Romano wrote: > Hi Sam ,
> It won't harm stating a little over java. > I didn't know anything before, and just with some examples and little mixing > with bbx code, you start really fast, and after some time, you get use to it, > and then you preffer to you an object than a nmemonic to handle the windows > objects.
> Regards, > -Sergio
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam G" <s...@profprog.com> > To: <businessbasic@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:43 PM > Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group
>> YEP! - still have a few old-time end-users who if they >> move they will go to some SQL/Oracle/.NET/JAVA/PHP, etc.
>> I like ProvideX best from the bunch. - but must admint that I did >> not look at BBx in last 3 years (as to their gui) primarily cause >> it almost requires you to be a java programmer on top of a bbx programmer >> to really be able to use it (or so I've heard)
>> sam
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Pierre Lamirande wrote:
>>> Does anyone still program in thoroughbred basic 3gl or IDOL-IV 4gl? I had >>> some good memories especially idol-iv.
>>> --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Michel Donais <don...@telupton.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [BB] Closing the group >>>> To: businessbasic@googlegroups.com >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:16 PM >>>> Thank's a lot Gary for holding the >>>> flame for all those years. >>>> BB list was very usefull for me for the last 20 years and I >>>> say a big thank's to everybody who's stand on the list ready >>>> to help.
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<gary.mcclel...@gmail.com> wrote: > No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
> Time to close it?
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> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Gary McClellan > <gary.mcclel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> No messages have been posted to this group for almost a year.
>> Time to close it?
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>>>> Albert Genzen >>>
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