Slide Stop question

[Joe]

Listers,

 

    Need to settle this once and for all. After you load a magazine in your 1911 .45acp on the “Load” command, do you then grasp the rear of the slide, pull it back and then release it, to chamber a round, or do you press the slide stop down, releasing the slide to go forward, to chamber a round? Since I am in the match myself, I have never watched what others are doing.

[Larry Lang]

On 6/2/2012 4:24 PM, Joe wrote:

Listers,

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��� Need to settle this once and for all. After you load a magazine in your 1911 .45acp on the �Load� command, do you then grasp the rear of the slide, pull it back and then release it, to chamber a round, or do you press the slide stop down, releasing the slide to go forward, to chamber a round? Since I am in the match myself, I have never watched what others are doing.

On my 1911s with spur hammers I grasp with right hand and hold hammer while releasing the slide stop lever with left thumb and index finger. For my Cdr style hammers it's the same without the hammer hold. My Marvel .22 conversions I slingshot the slide.
Larry (WA)

[AmmoGuru]

I use the slide stop only.� Never touch the slide, most of the gunsmiths have suggested that that is one of the devices functions.

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Neil
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On 6/2/2012 7:24 PM, Joe wrote:

Listers,

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��� Need to settle this once and for all. After you load a magazine in your 1911 .45acp on the �Load� command, do you then grasp the rear of the slide, pull it back and then release it, to chamber a round, or do you press the slide stop down, releasing the slide to go forward, to chamber a round? Since I am in the match myself, I have never watched what others are doing.

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[Stephen Price]

I pull back on the slide and let the gun close naturally.   The slide stop is just that, a stop.  Especially in defensive pistols you should never use the slide stop for the purpose of closing the gun.  So, I try to do everything the same no matter what type of pistol I shoot.  One thing to learn, only one thing to remember.

On the Marvel 22 conversion unit 1, you MUST pull the slide back in order to load the pistol.  It will not function otherwise.  Again, one thing to learn, only one thing to remember.

Can you release the slide on most guns to lock and load, YES, but like my dad used to ask me, just because you can do something...should you?  Each to their own but I will continue to follow the KISS method on this one.  Stephen

On Jun 2, 2012 7:45 PM, "AmmoGuru" <ammo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the slide stop only.  Never touch the slide, most of the gunsmiths have suggested that that is one of the devices functions.

Regards,
Neil
NSK Co.
410.833.2100 | Fax:410.833.2101
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On 6/2/2012 7:24 PM, Joe wrote:

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Stephen,
Why should you never use the slide stop to close the gun?
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[D.Zawicki]

You will get a lot of emoution on this…..The way I was taught while shooting on Army teams was to grasp the pistol and hold the hammer back with the thumb of the right hand ( to disengage the sear from the hammer and prevent sear wear) while releasing the slide stop with the left thumb. After the slide goes into  battery , holding the weapon in the left hand place the left thumb between the hammer and the slide and regrasp the pistol with the right hand.

 

Dave Zawicki

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Hold hammer down trigger back and release slide stop

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Subject: {Bullseye L List} Slide Stop question

Listers,

 

    Need to settle this once and for all. After you load a magazine in your 1911 .45acp on the “Load” command, do you then grasp the rear of the slide, pull it back and then release it, to chamber a round, or do you press the slide stop down, releasing the slide to go forward, to chamber a round? Since I am in the match myself, I have never watched what others are doing.

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[Jack H]

Good luck on that. Jack H

[Chuck]

While I was in the army and on pistol teams I was thought to hold the pistol firmly in the shooting hand (right hand) pull the trigger and hold the hammer with the left thumb and release the slide  with the left index finger. Than place the left index finger between the hammer and slide and than release the trigger to make sure the sear held. Chuck Think XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX's     --- On Sat, 6/2/12, D.Zawicki <dzaw...@verizon.net> wrote:

[Stephen Price]

Dave is correct.  There is a lot of emotion on this one.  

I have been taught many things over the years.  I was originally taught to pull the trigger and then release the slide via the slide stop.  This method works very well too, However,  I do not use it anymore.  I have evolved over many years of handgun training and teaching.  The learning process is a continuous process.

I teach defensive handgun tactics, Close quarter combat as well as basic handgun safety and pistol marksmanship.  I have been teaching for over 25 years now and the slide stop issue comes up in every class.  It is actually very simple.  Keep in mind, all of this is defensive tactics not BULLSEYE, for the moment.  When a person is under stress, they will tend to go into a state of tunnel vision or at least a status of hyper concentration.  It has been proven that when under stress an individual will loose their FINE motor skills.  The act of reloading your pistol and hitting the SLIDE STOP is considered to be, a FINE motor skill, whereas the act of reaching over the top of the pistol, grabbing the slide and PULLING it to the rear, then releasing the slide to load the pistol is considered to be a GROSS motor skill which under stress a person will still maintain.  

That is the reason I reach over and pull the slide.  One thing to learn, One thing to remember.

It is a personal decision not a hard and fast rule like safety rules.  Each to their own but for me i will continue to reach over and pull the slide unless someone can show me a better way, which I am always open to learning new and better ways.

Stephen

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Subject: Re: {Bullseye L List} Slide Stop question

 

I use the slide stop only.  Never touch the slide, most of the gunsmiths have suggested that that is one of the devices functions.

Regards,

Neil

Listers,

 

    Need to settle this once and for all. After you load a magazine in your 1911 .45acp on the “Load” command, do you then grasp the rear of the slide, pull it back and then release it, to chamber a round, or do you press the slide stop down, releasing the slide to go forward, to chamber a round? Since I am in the match myself, I have never watched what others are doing.

 

RECENTLY  I HAVE NOTICED MANY OF THE SLIDE STOP NOTCH BADLY WORN.   AND THE SLIDE WOULD NOT LOCK BACK ON THE LAST SHOT.  THE SLIDE STOP KEEPS  SLIDEING OFF.  SEEMS THE METAL ARE NOT AS HARD AS BEFORE.   IN THIS TYPE OF METAL I WOULD USE THE SLING SHOT METHOD.  PULLING THE SLIDE BACK AND RELEASE IT.  THAT WAY IT ALSO GIVES THE SLIDE MORE POWER TO STRIP THE ROUND OFF THE MAGAZINE.  JMO.        ED M.

[Waltz]

I have a Les Baer Wadcutter and a Kimber Target Match 1911. Neither can be racked by pulling the slide. Only the slide stop will release the slide.

Ron

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[Pauley, Dan (RR Energy Systems)]

What I do.
"The Line is no longer safe you may handle your firearms"
I remove ECI and lower the slide.
"The next course of fire is ..... LOAD"
Magazine in and press with thumb for CLICK.
Pick it up and go through the motion of dry firing once.
I hold the trigger back after the dry fire.
Commands are progressing and my dry fire snap is usually about
"Is the Line Ready"
Grab slide with off hand and rack it all way back and front (sling shot)
"The line is ready"
"Ready on the Right"
Pick the gun off the bench. I keep my knuckles up (gang-sta style?)
"Ready on the Left"
Raise pistol to target and rotate into shooting position.
"Ready on the firing line"
Mentally start counting 1, 2, 3, 4,
On the count of 3 I ease trigger pressure to reset the disconnect.
Start increasing pressure on the trigger and expect target turn by count
4
I want about 50% of the trigger pressure for release at the target turn
and keep it coming until it breaks. Recoil, recover, Red shadow over my
black, Reset trigger and "drive the dot toward center with trigger
pressure"

That is what works for me, Now, In my current learning process as a Card
carrying member of the anal-retentive obsessive compulsive marksman
club.

My revolver process is different (and doesn't work as well)
R. Dan Pauley

[David Daniels]

Looks like your process utilizes all of the 1911 functions as they
were designed to operate and it protects the sear.

dd

[Chuck Holt]

How does it protect the sear?

Chuck