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da...@elegantcode.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:06:23 AM12/4/09
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Thanks to everyone who participated in the conversation last night at
BSDG.

In talking about the new cloud service model, I got one thing wrong.
After clarifying with those in the know, here is the story on the VM
in the cloud.

MSFT does NOT offer a VM in the cloud at this time. Yet. It is coming,
but not yet released. The use cases I mentioned were from within their
early adopters who work directly with MSFT as a technology is being
tested and developed.

I stated that this was a pre-existing service. Although that was my
understanding, I was, of course, incorrect.

Thanks, folks.

-David Starr

Aaron Backer

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:19:38 PM12/4/09
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However...one of the things Cory had said in his presentation was that the whole paradigm was moving away from "here's a remote desktop to your dedicated VM", so it's *still* very interesting that it is coming.

Probably in response to the deafening *pop* as millions of developers' paradigms shifted without a clutch...

-a


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Jacob Munson

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:58:19 PM12/4/09
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This is a little off topic, but I wanted to note that there is a small movement in the ColdFusion community to use the cloud for apps.  There is an alternate CF server called Open BlueDragon (it's FOSS), and they support Google App Engine.  So it's fairly trivial to take an existing CF app that works with OpenBD and port it to Google App. Engine.  Here's an example site running under this "stack":
http://www.legatowheels.com/

It's a little odd working with GAE, because you have to change how you think about server interactions.  You don't store files on your sever, you put them into Google's data store, which is effectively database.  So on when you are using code to work with files in this way, you have to switch from file system functions to BLOB functions.  There are a few other oddities like that.

Anyway, since you guys were talking about Microsoft's Cloud stuff, I thought I'd throw this out there for the curious among you.  :)

da...@elegantcode.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:46:27 PM12/4/09
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That's really interesting, actually.

The space is certeinly heating up.

On Dec 4, 11:58 am, Jacob Munson <yacoub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a little off topic, but I wanted to note that there is a small
> movement in the ColdFusion community to use the cloud for apps.  There is an
> alternate CF server called Open BlueDragon (it's FOSS), and they support
> Google App Engine.  So it's fairly trivial to take an existing CF app that
> works with OpenBD and port it to Google App. Engine.  Here's an example site
> running under this "stack":http://www.legatowheels.com/
>
> It's a little odd working with GAE, because you have to change how you think
> about server interactions.  You don't store files on your sever, you put
> them into Google's data store, which is effectively database.  So on when
> you are using code to work with files in this way, you have to switch from
> file system functions to BLOB functions.  There are a few other oddities
> like that.
>
> Anyway, since you guys were talking about Microsoft's Cloud stuff, I thought
> I'd throw this out there for the curious among you.  :)
>
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