[BNM] Dedicated servers in US
Jay Gooby
service I've had so far from Dreamhost I'll certainly consider them,
but I've also heard good things about http://layeredtech.com and
http://serverbeach.com. http://bitpusher.com have also been mentioned.
In the first case I'm looking for solid reliability, good
interconenctions and b/w plus a solid, proven backup strategy. Next
they must be able to scale b/w & h/w quickly, although this is in the
first instance, secondary to reliability...
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Alan Newman
once...and the time zone/distance was too much of an overhead.
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Jay Gooby
> rackspace are the best
Are the US better than UK? My experience of them here on a different
project is that we were paying over £1000/k month and getting sweet fa
in return; in fact they actively caused the servers to crash and have
downtime outside of our 5 nines SLA TWICE as part of their "insane
support". So insane that they randomly patched and rebooted servers,
during working hours, with no notice :p
James Wragg
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> In the first case I'm looking for solid reliability, good
> interconenctions and b/w plus a solid, proven backup strategy. Next
> they must be able to scale b/w & h/w quickly, although this is in the
> first instance, secondary to reliability...
Ryan Carson from Carson workshops, dropsend.com & BD4D waxes lyrical
about the Bitpusher guys, worth noting though that their not a hosting
company as such - they're a 'managed hosting infrastructure' company
i.e. they'll build and maintain a custom setup for you. Prices
starting around $1500US..
If it's more bog standard but good dedicated hosting go to
rackspace.com, alternatively a more affordable option are
theplanet.com.
Hope that helps,
James
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excellent. I know people who use Pair dedicated servers who are v happy with
them.
Andrew Gill
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On 18/04/06, Jay Gooby <j...@gooby.org> wrote:
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Nick Wilsdon
*However* they are providing completely unmanaged server. A lot of people
seem to forget that when they sign up. They just provide the network
connection nothing more, you need to become very good at *nix admin or
better still hire someone who knows what they are doing from the off. I know
you're not that silly Jay - but I always feel the need to put in the
disclaimer here and put off as many DIY admins as possible* ;) I deal with
enough in the forums...
They charge $400/hr to investigate abuse coming from your box and un-plug
pretty fast if you obviously don't know what you are doing. Good job too as
it has seriously cleaned up the network.
> time zone/distance was too much of an overhead
In my experience if you rent near the top of the range (with a Duel
Zeon/plenty of RAM setup) that easily makes up for the distance overhead. I
did find that though with the bargain stuff though, yes.
*if you do need server admin recommendation email me off-list.
Best Regards,
Nick
Managing Director
e3internet
http://www.e3internet.com
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Alan Newman
I would echo the admin side of it (we pay the extra with our UK provider and
just consider it an insurance policy and it is well worth it)...
...but don't EV1 provide a separate support/management contract as well,
that works out pretty cost effective?
Regards,
Nick Wilsdon
> but don't EV1 provide a separate support/management contract as well,
that works out pretty cost effective?
Not that I have heard of but since we contracted an admin company I'm a bit
more out of the loop than I used to be - it may be something they have
started.
They have always gone for unmanaged boxes as it keep their costs down - the
community there was always pretty technical (besides we were all hacking
early copies of Ensim which kind of forced you to know what you were doing!
:) EV1 techs do actually help out from time to time which is great but they
never had any obligation to do that.
On a side note though there is a slight danger with Ev1 and ThePlanet - in
fact any of these large scale US datacenters. Because there are so many DIY
admins it's a good hunting ground for crackers - which means your boxes gets
scan/brute force attempts pretty regularly. It's a walk in the park for a
lot of the smaller UK hosts as they don't get that kind of attention
(although that can let them get away with much weaker admin skills as I've
found in the past).
Best Regards,
Nick
Managing Director
e3internet
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Alan Newman
Yeah, totally agree. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for...
- Alan
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