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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Re: 80/20 tools.
From: Seb Lee-Delisle <s...@leedelisle.com>
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ah yeah, those ones. They may cut wire all good and stuff but I find them a
bit awkward. But then I am very delicate :)

Seb



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Mike Pountney <Mike.Pount...@gmail.com>wro=
te:

>
> :)  I love those wire strippers.
>
> The strippers are the ones with the marked gauged holes, on that same
> rail. Every one i've used still strips wires well, and all have a wee jaw
> by the pivot that cuts through crazy thickness of wire -- i used them to
> chop the 4mm twin+earth wire for the 32A cable.
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Nov 2012, at 15:38, Seb Lee-Delisle <s...@leedelisle.com> wrote:
>
> hehe no need to be defensive! Where are the decent wire strippers? I'm
> mostly talking about the row of wire cutters above the solder stations
> which all seem to have holes in where they've been used to cut hard metal=
.
>
> And fully prepared to accept that it's my failure of wielding. I find it
> hard to find a pair that work for me!
>
> Seb
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Mike Pountney <Mike.Pount...@gmail.com>w=
rote:
>
>>
>> The wire strippers are indeed very good.
>>
>> And tbh, if we'd realised that they are also very good as wire cutters
>> too, maybe most of the side-snips and wire cutters wouldn't be knackered=
.
>>
>> I'm with Chris -- we need to have a better way of highlighting that
>> certain tools, even something as simple as a pair of side snips, should =
be
>> not be used inappropriately.
>>
>> +1 from me to spending =C2=A325 on buying a bunch more side-snips btw, *=
all*
>> the ones we have on the rail are bent to hell.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2012, at 15:18, Chris <chris.hol...@multiedge-net.co.uk> wrote=
:
>>
>>
>> I've got to disagree and speak up in defence of some of our kit.
>> True, some of it is a bit rubbish, and some has been made rubbish throug=
h
>> over-use or lack of care.
>> But the wire strippers we have are, at the very least, alright.
>> Some are quite good. Maybe it's the way you're wielding them ;-)
>>
>> On a related note, how do we stop good tools getting ruined? (when good
>> tools turn bad sounds like a pitch for a programme on channel 5). We cou=
ld
>> get 2 or 3 decent anythings, just for members, but our wire cutters were
>> brand new and shiny once; how did they get so bad and how do we stop it
>> happening to other tools - or do we just accept that some things are mor=
e
>> like consumable tools?
>>
>>
>> On 16/11/2012 15:01, Seb Lee-Delisle wrote:
>>
>> A simple thing but it seems that alla the wire cutters and strippers are
>> quite crap. I guess that's ok for workshops and stuff but it'd be nice t=
o
>> have at least 2 or 3 decent ones for members to use. They're def in my
>> 80/20.
>>
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ah yeah, those ones. They may cut wire all good and stuff but I find them a=
 bit awkward. But then I am very delicate :)=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Seb=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Mike Pountney <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:Mike.Pount...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Mike.Pountney@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div>:) =C2=A0I love those wi=
re strippers.<div><br></div><div>The strippers are the ones with the marked=
 gauged holes, on that same rail. Every one i&#39;ve used still strips wire=
s well, and all have a wee jaw by the pivot that cuts through crazy thickne=
ss of wire -- i used them to chop the 4mm twin+earth wire for the 32A cable=
.</div>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b=
r><div><div><div>On 16 Nov 2012, at 15:38, Seb Lee-Delisle &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:s...@leedelisle.com" target=3D"_blank">s...@leedelisle.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">hehe no need to be defensive! Where are the d=
ecent wire strippers? I&#39;m mostly talking about the row of wire cutters =
above the solder stations which all seem to have holes in where they&#39;ve=
 been used to cut hard metal.=C2=A0<div>

<br></div><div>And fully prepared to accept that it&#39;s my failure of wie=
lding. I find it hard to find a pair that work for me! =C2=A0<br><div><br><=
/div><div>Seb=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Mike Pountney <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:Mike.Pount...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Mike.Pountney@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div>The wire strippers are i=
ndeed very good.<div><br></div><div>And tbh, if we&#39;d realised that they=
 are also very good as wire cutters too, maybe most of the side-snips and w=
ire cutters wouldn&#39;t be knackered.</div>

<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m with Chris -- we need to have a better way of h=
ighlighting that certain tools, even something as simple as a pair of side =
snips, should be not be used inappropriately.</div><div><br></div><div>

+1 from me to spending =C2=A325 on buying a bunch more side-snips btw, *all=
* the ones we have on the rail are bent to hell.</div><div><div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
<div><div>On 16 Nov 2012, at 15:18, Chris &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.holde=
n...@multiedge-net.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">chris.hol...@multiedge-net.co.uk</=
a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <div><br>
      I&#39;ve got to disagree and speak up in defence of some of our kit.<=
br>
      True, some of it is a bit rubbish, and some has been made rubbish
      through over-use or lack of care.<br>
      But the wire strippers we have are, at the very least, alright. <br>
      Some are quite good. Maybe it&#39;s the way you&#39;re wielding them =
;-)<br>
      <br>
      On a related note, how do we stop good tools getting ruined? (when
      good tools turn bad sounds like a pitch for a programme on channel
      5). We could get 2 or 3 decent anythings, just for members, but
      our wire cutters were brand new and shiny once; how did they get
      so bad and how do we stop it happening to other tools - or do we
      just accept that some things are more like consumable tools?<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 16/11/2012 15:01, Seb Lee-Delisle wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div>A simple thing but it seems that alla the wire cutters and
        strippers are quite crap. I guess that&#39;s ok for workshops and
        stuff but it&#39;d be nice to have at least 2 or 3 decent ones for
        members to use. They&#39;re def in my 80/20.=C2=A0</div>
    </blockquote>
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