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Mike Pountney  
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 More options Mar 13 2012, 5:49 am
From: Mike Pountney <mike.pount...@semantico.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:49:24 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 5:49 am
Subject: Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Hey all,

Starting a new thread here, to gather ideas for the proposal for the Dublin Mini Maker Faire (and in tandem, for Manchester, Derby and of course Brighton!)

We need to get the proposal in to Dublin tomorrow, so all systems go (I expect being a bit late is ok, but we should at least get something over). I've emailed him about potential funding, but have not yet heard back.

So, idea 1: Scalexercise (pun name! win!)

We get 2-6 exercise bikes or other energy consuming devices hooked up to all the Scalextric track that I bought. Run it around lots of tables, or whatever off-ground area we can get. There's enough track to make for quite an installation, but by its nature we can make it as small or large as we like, and can fit around what we need to.

The base idea is pretty easy to accomplish - the latest (C7042) digital base station (which I'll buy) is quite hackable via its AUX port, or we can always just hack the (digital) controllers. This will give us up to 6 folk racing on a two lane track.

On top of this though, we can make this quite a cool group project:
 - wireless cameras mounted on the cars.
 - on-track cameras.
 - cool trackside ornaments: spectators, tunnels, goats, grandstands, etc.
 - race mode stuff - ghost cars, lap timers.
 - custom track (MDF and copper tape work pretty well)

If we do this well, we can take it to a whole ream of events - festivals, model shows, ...


 
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Justin Nel  
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 More options Mar 13 2012, 5:55 am
From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:55:36 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 5:55 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

I'd be up for helping with that!

As for the Dublin faire, do I need to enter myself as part of the group, or
an an individual?

- Justin

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Mike Pountney  
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From: Mike Pountney <mike.pount...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:01:07 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 6:01 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

On 13 Mar 2012, at 09:55, Justin Nel wrote:

> I'd be up for helping with that!

Wicked! It's on!

> As for the Dublin faire, do I need to enter myself as part of the group, or an an individual?

Up to you really, but my preference would be that we enter as a group. At the BMMF we had a mix - many of the makers were already part of a hackspace, but then we had 'Hackspace Haven' which had HacMAN, BB, Nottingham and London hackspaces participating as a group.

I guess the rule of thumb is 'if your project stands on its own, and you'd prefer to exhibit it as your own work, then enter as an individual'. If it's something that you think just showcases what cool stuff happens at hackspaces, then lets enter it as a group.

I'd like Scalexercise to be a BB group project.


 
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Justin Nel  
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From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:10:19 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Happy to enter as a group, just making sure I get included in the headcount
or if I had to do my own form. :)

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From: Mike Pountney <mike.pount...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:13:56 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 6:13 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

On 13 Mar 2012, at 10:10, Justin Nel wrote:

> Happy to enter as a group, just making sure I get included in the headcount or if I had to do my own form. :)

(to everyone...) - So, what projects are you planning to bring?

I think it's fair to say we can lump a bunch of stuff under 'general hackspace projects' - provided there is no need for a specific risk assessment for them, or if they don't take up too much space.

it's generally better for the organisers if we list as much as possible though - they need to shape the event around what's being brought, so the more information we can give them the better.


 
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Justin Nel  
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From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:37:40 +0000
Local: Tues, Mar 13 2012 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Perhaps take up some of the zombie badges? I'm going to try make something
to show off, but I doubt it will be anything overly amazing and I need a
bit of time to come up with the idea... :)

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:23:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Ok, I've put the application in.

Boom! We're going to Dublin!

Have ordered some digital pots from Farnell, which should be enough to get Scalexercise v0.1 going on Thursday!

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:39:05 -0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 4:39 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Scalexercise sounds awesome!

Just wanted to check something with you though... how were you intending to put those digital pots to work? having messed with them before I know they can’t take much current (usually a few tens of milliamps) and the voltage on the pot terminals is usually clamped to the power rails (i.e. they can divide a max of 5V). This might not be true of the ones you ordered and maybe you’re aware of all this already.

On the scalextric set would you be replacing a control pot that passes the motor drive current? or is there some electronics already in between? if the pot usually takes the full current whack then I guess you’d need to add something like a power transistor between the pot and the scalextric.

I can bring some along on thurs if you want to do some experimenting

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Ok, I've put the application in.  

Boom! We're going to Dublin!

Have ordered some digital pots from Farnell, which should be enough to get Scalexercise v0.1 going on Thursday!

On 13 Mar 2012, at 13:37, Justin Nel wrote:

  Perhaps take up some of the zombie badges? I'm going to try make something to show off, but I doubt it will be anything overly amazing and I need a bit of time to come up with the idea... :)

  On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Mike Pountney <mike.pount...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 13 Mar 2012, at 10:10, Justin Nel wrote:

    > Happy to enter as a group, just making sure I get included in the headcount or if I had to do my own form. :)

    (to everyone...) - So, what projects are you planning to bring?

    I think it's fair to say we can lump a bunch of stuff under 'general hackspace projects' - provided there is no need for a specific risk assessment for them, or if they don't take up too much space.

    it's generally better for the organisers if we list as much as possible though - they need to shape the event around what's being brought, so the more information we can give them the better.

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:25:37 +0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 5:25 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

I love the idea of scalexercise.
My guess was a magnet on a wheel, passing a hall-effect sensor(?) on the
frame - a bit like Jason's hard drive clock sync mechanism.
That way, you simply raise the back wheel of any bike and use that -
rather than specifically sourcing an exercise bike.
Can be retro-fitted to any bike, so anyone can take the plans and have a
go at home.
If you're looking for ideas for kits to sell at the makerfaire, you're
already onto something;
An A4 sheet detailing how to make your own mdf track, a kit of parts to
turn any old bike into a controller and you're away!

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:46:58 +0000
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2012 6:46 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

If we did this, we could add SpokePOV kits to the wheels and use them to
display current race positions?

Em

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From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:53:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

If we did this we would need somebody in half decent shape to demonstrate
it, as I've personally not even sat on a bicycle (not even ones at the gym)
in almost 12 years...

- Justin

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:58:48 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Good job I'm doing two London to Brighton bike rides this year then :)

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:55:49 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

+1
Jason is our current POV Yoda ;-)

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:47:15 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

That's a superb idea, esp considering we're already thinking of using hall-effect sensors.

Just need to be able to transmit data to them wirelessly I guess... Jason?!

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Nope, no problems there - this is using Scalextric Sport Digital (SSD) controllers - so they are just using a resistor to set a value on an analog pin basically.

The trigger is a 5K linear pot; the brake button adds an 8.2K resistor, and the lane change button adds an 18K resistor, presented over a 2.5mm mono jack.

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!
Chris: The exercise bike I've had running just had a magnet and a hall
effect sensor in it anyway. Usefully this connected to the 'brain'
with a lil jack connector so I thought I'd see what was in it :)
We can hack something together with the exercise bike I've got round
mine, then swap out for something a bit lighter later (it's fecking
heavy).
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Subject: RE: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

That'd be very cool.

I'm not going to be any use to you with the technical side of the project, but I'd like to help out with modeling/set dressing.

Sam

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If we did this, we could add SpokePOV kits to the wheels and use them to display current race positions?
Em

On 14 March 2012 09:25, Chris Holden <chris.hol...@multiedge-net.co.uk> wrote:

I love the idea of scalexercise.

My guess was a magnet on a wheel, passing a hall-effect sensor(?) on
the frame - a bit like Jason's hard drive clock sync mechanism.

That way, you simply raise the back wheel of any bike and use that -
rather than specifically sourcing an exercise bike.

Can be retro-fitted to any bike, so anyone can take the plans and have
a go at home.

If you're looking for ideas for kits to sell at the makerfaire, you're
already onto something;

An A4 sheet detailing how to make your own mdf track, a kit of parts to
turn any old bike into a controller and you're away!

On 14/03/2012 08:39, Jason Hotchkiss wrote:

  Scalexercise sounds awesome!

  Just wanted to check something with you though... how were you
intending to put those digital pots to work? having messed with them
before I know they can’t take much current (usually a few tens of
milliamps) and the voltage on the pot terminals is usually clamped to
the power rails (i.e. they can divide a max of 5V). This might not be
true of the ones you ordered and maybe you’re aware of all this already.

  On the scalextric set would you be replacing a control pot that
passes the motor drive current? or is there some electronics already in
between? if the pot usually takes the full current whack then I guess
you’d need to add something like a power transistor between the pot and
the scalextric.

  I can bring some along on thurs if you want to do some
experimenting

  From: Mike
Pountney
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:23 AM
  To: brightonhackerspace@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other)
Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

Ok, I've put the application in.

  Boom! We're going to Dublin!

  Have ordered some digital pots from Farnell, which should be
enough to get Scalexercise v0.1 going on Thursday!

  On 13 Mar 2012, at 13:37, Justin Nel wrote:

  Perhaps take up some of the zombie badges?
I'm going to try make something to show off, but I doubt it will be
anything overly amazing and I need a bit of time to come up with the
idea... :)

    On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Mike
Pountney <mike.pount...@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 13 Mar 2012, at 10:10, Justin Nel wrote:

> Happy to enter as a group, just making sure I get included in the

headcount or if I had to do my own form. :)

(to everyone...) - So, what projects are you planning to bring?

I think it's fair to say we can lump a bunch of stuff under 'general
hackspace projects' - provided there is no need for a specific risk
assessment for them, or if they don't take up too much space.

it's generally better for the organisers if we list as much as possible
though - they need to shape the event around what's being brought, so
the more information we can give them the better.

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

As I probably won't be able to make it in person, do you want the robot stuff. At the BMMF the kids loved controlling the bots from the TI watch and the touchpad. The IK arm was also cool.


 
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

As long as Mike doesn't have any objections, I'd be happy to take your
robot stuff over Steve. At the very least, I think it would get more people
to hang out around our area, at which point we stick them on a bicycle! ;)


 
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Dublin (and other) Mini Maker Faire proposals; Scalexercise!

I've put into the proposal that we'll bring a whole bunch of small-scale Hackspace projects, so bringing the robots would be ace. Cheers Steve!

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