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Mike Pountney  
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From: Mike Pountney <Mike.Pount...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:21:00 +0000
Subject: 'Bunk' area in main room

Hey all,

At the meeting last night -- minutes to be distributed soon by Matt btw -- I brought up an idea to build a second 'bunk' mezzanine in the main room. Where this fits is up for discussion, but the best place is naturally where the roof is highest -- and probably between the space heater and the workshop wall. It was pretty positively received, but it's certainly the kind of thing that needs wider approval.

The idea with it is to create a comfy bean-bag space up high, and get rid of some/all of the sofas in the corner that are rarely used and take up tonnes of space - replacing that area with more useful tables and chairs. It's getting pretty cramped on Thursdays now, so the extra floor space will be handy.

Below the bunk will be up for discussion too, but the general idea is to get a more permanent 'sit-down' work area set up underneath it. Possibly move the electronics benches under there, though I'm kind of happy where they are. The ceiling for this will be a little low, 6ft-ish, in order to give enough room to move up-top. Naturally we have some folk that are 6ft+, but the space would be designed as a sitting-down space, rather than a standing area.

Here's the inspiration btw -- http://www.unallocatedspace.org/uas/2011/04/29/loft-followup-robot-fest/

Another positive about this setup is that it creates two areas that we can easily make warm, which is going to be the subject of another email -- it's getting chilly in the space :)

We have half of the materials to do this -- 3 sheets of 18mm ply, screws, etc -- so it wouldn't cost too much to get together - the joist and upright timber for the workshop mezz was pretty cheap. Should cost Ł100-Ł150 extra I expect.

Thoughts?!


 
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From: Toby Cole <t...@tubs.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:30:09 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 7:30 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

See also
http://blog.makezine.com/2012/08/11/for-couch-potatoes-with-limited-s...
(will reply in more detail later)

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:49:20 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Thought: how would we get up there? :)

Something a bit more stable than the rickety ladder would be nice :)

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Seb Lee-Delisle  
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From: Seb Lee-Delisle <s...@leedelisle.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:06 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

I was one of the people chatting to Mike P about this last night and I
think it's a brilliant idea. Particularly when it comes to making a
comfortable, warm space to work, that the underneath space could become.
It'd be cheap and easy to make it bright and warm, and a good spot for
people who visit the space during weekdays to hang out, but without having
to heat the entire space.

I have to say though, that neither of those links are at all inspiring, I'm
sure we can come up with something way WAY better than that! And our new
mezzanine in the workshop space is already a million times better than the
robotfest weird platform thing :)

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Seb Lee-Delisle  
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Thought: how would we get up there? :)

> Something a bit more stable than the rickety ladder would be nice :)

haha yeah totally. We were discussing the possibility of a staircase along
the back wall.

 
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:52:32 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

On 2 Nov 2012, at 11:49, "Emma O'Sullivan" <e...@ejosullivan.com> wrote:

> Thought: how would we get up there? :)

TRAMAMPOLINE!

 
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:53:16 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Rope ladder and fireman's pole?

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:54:51 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

>  fireman's pole?

Hell yes. Seriously.

 
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From: Matthew Edwards <talkingj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:55:45 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 7:55 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

I'm very much in favor of getting rid of the 'comfy area' as it currently
is. It takes up 1/6 of the main space - and is generally wasted as it
currently is.

Personally, I think the space underneath something like this would be great
for some built-in computer desks, with some nice built-in storage

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:56:47 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Much as a fireman's pole is fun, we're still gonna need a way to get /up/
there and it's just gonna take up space unnecessarily.

Sorry to be the party pooper :)

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:01:32 +0000
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Subject: RE: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

My vote would certainly be for a staircase. For one thing, if it's going to be the only comfy area, I'd want to be able to carry food up there, so it needs hands free access.

I'm sorry I missed the meeting last night, I wanted to be there, but I was double booked.

Sam

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room
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Thought: how would we get up there? :)

Something a bit more stable than the rickety ladder would be nice :)

haha yeah totally. We were discussing the possibility of a staircase along the back wall.  

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:09:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Yeah, there'll be a staircase for sure. Firemans pole would be optional, and of course, BoringSeb is right - waste'o'space.

Stairs are good as you can store a bunch of stuff under them. Children, for example.

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:09:45 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

+1 for a staircase for carrying up laptops and projects.

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:12:19 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

The moment you said stairs and storage I thought;

http://cdn.homedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/drawers-built-under...

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:13:33 +0000
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Subject: RE: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

When I said 'food' I totally meant 'laptops and projects'.

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:09:45 +0000
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room
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+1 for a staircase for carrying up laptops and projects.

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My vote would certainly be for a staircase. For one thing, if it's going to be the only comfy area, I'd want to be able to carry food up there, so it needs hands free access.

I'm sorry I missed the meeting last night, I wanted to be there, but I was double booked.

Sam

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room
From: s...@leedelisle.com
To: brightonhackerspace@googlegroups.com

Thought: how would we get up there? :)

Something a bit more stable than the rickety ladder would be nice :)

haha yeah totally. We were discussing the possibility of a staircase along the back wall.  

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Subject: RE: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

That's fantastic.

Want.

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:12:19 +0000
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The moment you said stairs and storage I thought;
http://cdn.homedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/drawers-built-under...
On 2 Nov 2012, at 12:09, Emma O'Sullivan wrote:+1 for a staircase for carrying up laptops and projects.

On 2 November 2012 12:01, Samantha Pia Sulkin <spsul...@hotmail.com> wrote:

My vote would certainly be for a staircase. For one thing, if it's going to be the only comfy area, I'd want to be able to carry food up there, so it needs hands free access.

I'm sorry I missed the meeting last night, I wanted to be there, but I was double booked.

Sam

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:50:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room
From: s...@leedelisle.com
To: brightonhackerspace@googlegroups.com

Thought: how would we get up there? :)

Something a bit more stable than the rickety ladder would be nice :)

haha yeah totally. We were discussing the possibility of a staircase along the back wall.  

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Hi,
Could we make a Circular lift?
Such as the one seen in Star Trek and shopping centres.
It will need to be a custom build/design  to scale and space available.
It could help get things up there. even if we built a dumb waiter.

Am I being too geeky or over thinking this idea?  


 
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Look at how happy it is!

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:16:40 -0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

If we’re going Star Trek I favour a teleporter

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Hi,
Could we make a Circular lift?
Such as the one seen in Star Trek and shopping centres.
It will need to be a custom build/design  to scale and space available.
It could help get things up there. even if we built a dumb waiter.

Am I being too geeky or over thinking this idea?  

On Friday, 2 November 2012 11:56:48 UTC, Seb Lee-Delisle wrote:

  Much as a fireman's pole is fun, we're still gonna need a way to get /up/ there and it's just gonna take up space unnecessarily.  

  Sorry to be the party pooper :)

  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Mike Pountney <Mike.P...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >  fireman's pole?

    Hell yes. Seriously.

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

If we’re going Star Trek I favour a teleporter

Well if we get a big enough reprap we can scan ourselves downstairs and print out a copy of ourselves in the bunk area. Opens up all sorts of ethics issues though.

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

> Well if we get a big enough reprap

Ok, let's build a 7ft x 7ft x 7ft reprap machine with fully heated flat bed
(same size) & buy some heavy duty ABS wire to feed it.

Expensive to build?
One thing going for it, it's going to sort out "how do we heat the space"
issue  


 
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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:39:21 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Moving the current soldering stations and putting them flat against a
wall would lose the current storage area we have between the members
boxes and the "backs" of the shelving. Other than the poor lighting back
there, I think it's actually quite a good layout and would like to keep
it; there's minimal amount of floor space used for quite a lot of extra
storage.

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:30:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Just my quick two cents... I suffer from acrophobia and not sure if anybody
else does, but if the comfy area is lifted off the ground then it's not
something I would ever use again. Great idea about creating extra space,
but maybe keep some type of area on the ground (even if it's just plastic
chairs with cushions at a table)

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Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

Sorry to hear that Justin, I'm pretty sure there'll always be plenty of
tables and chairs at ground level though, unless you wanted something more
loungey?

cheers!

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From: Seb Lee-Delisle <s...@leedelisle.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:36:46 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] 'Bunk' area in main room

I'm not 100% convinced by the "corridor of doom" at the back of the space -
it seems to attract lots of junk that doesn't have anywhere else to live!
:) But I don't think the making of a bunk area would necessarily affect the
corridor of doom. We could still keep that as it is with or without the
solder stations, and I don't think it's definite that the solder stations
would even move at this stage, is it?

Seb

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Chris <chris.hol...@multiedge-net.co.uk>wrote:


 
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