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Chris  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 5:30 am
From: Chris <chris.hol...@multiedge-net.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:30:51 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 5:30 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

I'm not sure I understand this post. Is it intentionally vague?
What is a publishing partner and what do they do? Write content or host
someone else's content?
What's a content client? I understand that this article, written and
owned by BuildBrighton, would not be posted anywhere else - but else
from where? Where *will* it be posted/published?

Sarah, we use these boards to share ideas and make things happen within
the group.
If this is what you're suggesting, please explain fully what you mean in
words that explain exactly what is proposed and what is going on. For
example, when one of our board members writes "I need help with my midi
project" there's not much we, as a community, can do to help, however
"mutually beneficial" it may be, because not enough information has been
provided. Similarly, "publishing partners" and "content clients" doesn't
actually mean anything to anyone. Vague and abstract doesn't help on
these boards - please be precise and explain fully what you're proposing
- otherwise your posts might just end up marked as spam and removed.

On 11/06/2012 10:13, Sarah White wrote:


 
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Toby Cole  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 6:13 am
From: Toby Cole <t...@tubs.org.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:13:50 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 6:13 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/
Already marked as Spam in the google groups control panel. The spam
filter usually manages to filter these out before they get to the
group.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Chris


 
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Christopher Hills  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 6:55 am
From: Christopher Hills <orict...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:55:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 6:55 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

You could also report them. I use/d SpamCop.net http://www.spamcop.net/
signed up for an account, added my email addresses to that account, then
forward the spam as an attachment to email given by the account, they parse
it and send email to all abuse accounts of ISP, Webhost, etc which reduced
my spam from about 800 to ~10 per month.
Don't block, be proactive by reporting, the only spam I see is in tins.

Once I clicked a £20 cash back offer, which asked for name, email, Credit
Card *wait* read those Terms "by submitting your details we will charge
your account in about a month the amount of £29"

Not the exact wording used but as much as I remember. Not quite £20 cash
back then as a month later company takes back £29  

Chris Hills


 
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Jason Hotchkiss  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 7:01 am
From: "Jason Hotchkiss" <jason_hotchk...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:01:32 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 7:01 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

I started keeping particularly amusing spam. This one made me chuckle.. I guess someone missed some gender setting for the random sender names on their spambot
From: Caroyln Son
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:54 PM
To: cuon...@hotmail.com
Subject: Do you want to know how to enlarge penis size? I was once in your shoes.

Enlarge Penis Size - I Am So Glad I Did It
Do you want to know how to enlarge penis size? I was once in your shoes. I was very insecure about my size from an early age. I won't disclose exactly how small I was but let's just say I was definitely below average. This was in high school and I thought to myself maybe I'd still have some time to enlarge penis size naturally. However, in college and after that I knew that my small size was here to stay. I thought that there was simply nothing I could do and resigned to living with my small size. As you can imagine, this was a huge blow to my confidence.
If you want to enlarge penis size, here's the best solution. http://bigpenisdigital.ru


 
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Justin Nel  
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 More options Jun 11 2012, 7:36 am
From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:36:16 +0100
Local: Mon, Jun 11 2012 7:36 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

As a result of forwarding spam to the mailing list, a couple of you are
starting to be classified as spammers yourself with GMail's spam
controller... :)

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Christopher Hills <orict...@gmail.com>wrote:


 
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Toby Cole  
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 More options Jun 13 2012, 10:16 am
From: Toby Cole <t...@tubs.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:16:03 +0100
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/
Ha, sorry Justin… you ended up in the spam folder! How ironic :)


 
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Christopher Hills  
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 More options Jun 13 2012, 12:25 pm
From: Christopher Hills <orict...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

Hi Justin,

The Spam was not forwarded to the google group. It was copied and pasted
from the original email. Also my reason for that was to educate readers of
the group what spam email looks like. Normally the email with *SPAM* is
there because of the email client filters and not needed.

Also SPAM is not SPAM If it has an unsubscribe link within it as it *gives*
you the receiver the chance to say no I don't what this. So should be
flagged as Spam but people can't be asked and be taught not to click links
within email they didn't know/read the page when they signing up for online
shopping etc.
I was getting those emails that hotchk155 posted as my email was in the
envelope to: section not normally filtered and hard to do. If you view the
view source of those emails you might see your email address in there and
that's the reason you get them as your email as been picked up by a spam
bot (machine driven script).

If gmail's spam controller or anyone else wishes to state that I'm a
spammer and should be blocked would be stupid to think that as I'm so
clearly not one. Proactive reporting and good reasoning will improve spam
filters but in this day and age it should be a thing of the past.

Also this email is registered with http://www.spamcop.net and within 6-8
months my spam count went from 800/per month to currently 4 this month,
maybe more people should manage their email rather than moaning about how
much spam they get or they keep getting blocked because the spam filters
are set so badly.  A other thing that I do when posting to this group as
it's public is remove any personal email from my post as suggested by the
pop-up just before posting. I use the web interface when posting

Chris Hills      


 
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Christopher Hills  
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 More options Jun 13 2012, 12:32 pm
From: Christopher Hills <orict...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 13 2012 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

Are you admin guys/google having power trips with the spam settings? that
last post got deleted :-(
quite educational about controlling spam in your mail boxes. It should have
been posted  
Can you mark me a "not a spammer"?


 
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Toby Cole  
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 3:59 am
From: Toby Cole <t...@tubs.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:59:12 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 3:59 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/
Christopher: Justin meant it was getting marked as spam within _his_
email account. The google-groups spam filter marks a few genuine
messages as spam a month, but it's generally OK.
I don't think any real humans are marked as spammers in our group :)
T


 
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Christopher Hills  
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 6:13 am
From: Christopher Hills <orict...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 03:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 6:13 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

I was sort of aware of that as my email client did the same until I taught
it not to.

My posts are getting sent for review before being posted and the one which
was deleted, did mention in it. directed to Justin that I copied and pasted
that 419 scam rather than forwarded to the group which could have caused
offense but the rest was educational to the ways to control spam in your
email in boxes and how I reduce my spam count. So I'm just wondering why my
posts are sent for review before being posted

It's strange that my one got deleted and early this morning their was 2
posts selling mobile phones and asking us to add him to BBM and MSN  where
posted. I'm aware this a public group and anyone can post but based on the
fact I'm a paid-up member of BB. Don't you think my post should have been
posted rather than some random person selling mobile phones from the iPhone
factory?  

I help mange Brighton Pi group and have seen a message approval area within
the groups setting's. Not seen any messages in it yet but does prove/show
that human invention can occur with the posting of messages to the group.  
I also agree that there are no real human spammers on this list only script
driven filters which are not taught by their human owners, who then moan
they get too much spam.


 
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Mike Pountney  
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 6:28 am
From: Mike Pountney <mike.pount...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:28:14 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 6:28 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

On 13 Jun 2012, at 17:25, Christopher Hills wrote:

> Hi Justin,

Yup, your mail had been caught up in the spam filters. I've set it so that you're 'Always Allow' now, so shouldn't be a problem in the future (and hence why the mail got released :)

The group is set up so that new members can post automatically - it hasn't been *too* much of a problem. The google filters will occasionally block folk, and sometimes we don't spot that - sorry Chris.


 
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Justin Nel  
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 6:26 am
From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:26:21 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

Hi Chris,

I was just pointing out that GMail had tagged your email and the other (I
think it was Toby's?) as Spam and they appeared in the Spam folder rather
than my Inbox. However since I regularly check my Spam folder, I found the
emails and removed the tag. Generally once I remove a tag, that specific
person's emails will continue to come through all ok (even when they're
accounts are hijacked and they start sending real spam), haha.

- Justin

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Toby Cole  
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 11:37 am
From: Toby Cole <t...@tubs.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:37:48 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/
Ha, it thought you were a spammer again Justin (fixed now) :)


 
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 More options Jun 14 2012, 11:46 am
From: Justin Nel <dogbertuk2...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:46:54 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jun 14 2012 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [brighton-hacker-space] Ref: Editorial Content for http://www.buildbrighton.com/blog/

*marks Toby as spam*

:)

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