Re: [BPCup] Re: BPCup 2012 First Aid

[ROY DADE]

Dear All

Just a thought but how about a run down on incident drills as described in the Coaching Handbook? There is also a good pocket guide on the web at http://www.falcon-club.net/Output.pdf

Regards

Roy

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:32 PM, edc...@tiscali.co.uk <edc...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

Lots of good ideas and willing helpers on the First Aid front .... well
done folks. Can't add anything there.

Def keep the retrieve, there's a guy now doing (my biz. idea) the
xcbus retrieve thing. Avoid bicyles... get a proper bus.



No Cat 2 .... fair enough



Round venues OK ..... any idea why they are all so late and in the
monsoon season; July and August not good .... but who's knows ... this
is the UK.  Have you checked for clashes? (LCC for example). Can't do
last biggie end of Aug due to clash ... bugger but may rejig.



If we move from five to three rounds does this alter the overall costs
much? Any additional costs over the total for last year (£235?) is
gonna put people off a bit during hard times.



Cheers

Ed



----Original Message----

From: viv4...@gmail.com

Date: 20/01/2012 13:51

To: "British Paragliding Cup"<bp...@googlegroups.com>

Subj: [BPCup] Re: BPCup 2012

A belated happy new year everyone and here's my tuppence worth.



My choice from the options available is:



- Arrange for several pilots, or those currently helping with the

   organisation, to be appropriately ‘first aid trained’, providing

cover at

   take-off (we would continue to rely on emergency services for any

incidents

   elsewhere.  Whatever we do, we will seek guidance from the BHPA).

One

   point to note here though is, if we have some Personnel trained in

First

   Aid they, would not be classed as Professional Medical Staff.



I am involved with our local winch syndicate (run under BHPA rules)

and all our tow coaches and several pilots have basic first aid

certificates. Perhaps there could be a checkbox on the BP Cup

registration form to ask if anyone has any current first aid training

and to what level. I think if a BP Cup official on the ground had the

First Aid at Work qualification (paid for by the BP Cup) and we had a

number of basic first aiders amongst the pilots that ought to be

sufficient.



I ran official horse trials for a number of years in a previous life

and if you have to start paying for medical cover it would be

extremely expensive and with our sport they probably wouldn't be in

the right place anyway!



I'm for keeping the retrieve bus if at all possible.



Cat 2/ performance gliders - not bothered either way - can't see it

applying to me!



You're all doing a great job - please keep on doing it.



Viv





On Jan 13, 2:46 pm, Gary Jackson <gazand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Happy New Year to you all;  OK, I’m 13 days late!

>

> Onto business then… and what has been proposed for this year.  Based
on

> feedback from the pilots at the last two rounds, we are planning to
have a

> one week event, and one or two weekend rounds.

>

> ·        A seven day event has been pencilled in at the Derbyshire
Gliding

> Club from 26 August till 1 September.

>

> ·        The weekend rounds have yet to be arranged.   If you have
anything

> to bring to the party, please contact me.

>

> There are several points that need to be raised following the 2011
event

> and changes in glider certification:

>

> Safety

>

> As many of you know, there was a serious accident at the Borders
round.  While

> the investigation into the accident is still not complete, the BHPA
have

> recommended that we should consider having professional medical staff
on

> the hill.   Because of the potential consequences of not doing so, we
feel

> we have to comply.  This will have significant cost ramifications and
we

> can do one of several things:

>

>    - Put the cost of entry up.

>    - Scrap the retrieve driver/minibus and go back to how it was for
many

>    years, with pilots making their own way back (we do know from last
year

>    that organised retrieves are very popular with pilots, however
these are

>    expensive as we have to pay for the hire of the buses and
associated costs

>    regardless of whether we fly or not and in a typical year a large

>    percentage of the income goes on this).

>    - Arrange for several pilots, or those currently helping with the

>    organisation, to be appropriately ‘first aid trained’, providing
cover at

>    take-off (we would continue to rely on emergency services for any
incidents

>    elsewhere.  Whatever we do, we will seek guidance from the BHPA).
One

>    point to note here though is, if we have some Personnel trained in
First

>    Aid they, would not be classed as Professional Medical Staff.

>    - A combination of any of these, but bear in mind that the medical
cover

>    is of primary importance and will take precedent over the
minibus.

>

> Your views please!

>

> FAI Cat 2

>

> We are planning to drop Cat 2 status from the BP Cup as hardly any
pilots

> enter because of it and there are generally few points available
anyway.  This

> proposal was broadly supported by the 2011 entrants.  Please let me
know if

> you disagree!

>

> Glider Performance

>

> Traditionally, the BP Cup has had a two tier scoring system – events
were

> scored twice; once as an Open where pilots on open class gliders
were

> allowed to compete, and secondly as BP Cup event, where only those
flying

> non competition gliders scored. The accumulative BP Cup score for the
year

> was made up only of the latter.  For 2011, as a result of the 2
liner

> debacle, we had to stop the Open element and not allow competition
gliders.

>  However, because of recent developments where these wings are
getting

> certified but the manufacturers are suggesting they should only be
flown by

> highly experienced competition pilots, we need to reconsider the
rules for

> 2012.  Our proposal at this stage is to wait until nearer the time of
the

> first event as everything is still very much in a state of flux with
the

> official bodies

>

> All comments gratefully received.

>

> BP Cup Roles

>

> As a general point, Simon and I are keen to see the BP Cup continue
and on

> that basis are happy to continue to organise the events unless anyone
else

> would prefer to.  If anyone would like to take on the roles of
Organising

> and running the events, looking after the website or managing the
finances,

> please let me know.

>

> Can’t wait for the postings on this lot, so TTFN

>

> Gaz (Mk1)



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