From: Jerry Feldman <g...@blu.org>
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:58:01 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 9 2011 7:58 am
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Old computers Re: (OT) Steve Jobs 1955-2011
On 10/08/2011 03:32 PM, MBR wrote:
Speaking of RT-11, my first job out of college was in the Small Systems Group at DEC from 1972 to 1977. RT-11 was developed as a successor to OS-8. The PDP-8 (12-bit word, 3-bit opcode, maximum memory 32K-12-bit-words) was to the world of computers in the early 1970s what the Model T had been to the world of automobiles in the 1910s. While it was severely limited compared to mainframes of the day, the PDP-8 brought the price down to the $10,000 to $20,000 range, a price where every college psych lab could afford their own computer to monitor experiments and process data. > DEC's mainframe at the time was the PDP-10 (36-bit word, 9-bit opcode, > When I joined DEC's Small Systems Group, one member of the group was > I know that if someone had suggested to me at that time that an OS > Around 1973 or 1974, DEC's hardware engineers gave us a brand new, and > Our managers came to us and said that because OS-8 was doing so well, > Gary Kildall's CP/M started out as his own reimplementation of RT-11 > For me, the lessons of this history are: > * > Good software usually involves someone with a brilliant insight > * > Those who reap the rewards seldom have a significant hand in the > I think some, but not all of this, applies to Steve Jobs too. He was that time, BK's point of sale systems were 8K DEC PDP-8Ms (with no control panel). The cash register had nixie tubes and a keyboard you read by reading the row, then column (eg not ASCII). The modem only had a ring interrupt. To send data, you rotated the accumulator into the link to send a bit, or from the link to read a bit. The 1200bps was done in timing loops. The PDP 8 processor speeds were predictable. Since it had core memory, if there was a power fail, all we had to do was to save the PC, accumulator and link. The PDP-8 only had those registers plus a multiplier quotient we did not use, and a 3 bit bank register we did not use in the 4K versions. Only Connecticut had 8K. At the time, a 4K memory board cost about $5,000. Each PDP 8 could support a maximum of 4 registers and 8 clerks. (2 clerks could share 1 register). In 4K we could do inventory, cash reconciliation, hourly sales, and a couple of other things. We could only store 1 day's worth of data. If the store failed to send it's data, in the morning the manager had to call Miami. The printer was a drum printer with only 10 characters. The right side of the printer was numeric, so we could print 0-9 or a space, and the left side had Alpha characters, but only 10 letters, so some of the abbreviations were interesting. We had to write the code to strike the hammers on the drum. We had a home-grown comms protocol partially because of the 12 bit data. The Miami host was a Burroughts medium systems EBCDIC mainframe. Our modem program there was written in COBOL with integrated assembler. Burroughs medium systems did not have a linkage editor so your programs were monolithic. So, one of the things it had to do was to read the 8-bit data convert it back to 12-bit binary words, then into COBOL integers. The PDP-8 would send 2 words in 3 octets. I was hired as a PDP-8 assembler programmer since I had training in graduate school. Later on, BK converted to a microprocessor based system. -- _______________________________________________ You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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