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Subject: Re: Need More TAs : Ruby on Rails Workshop for Women
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I would like to request that the group moderator take ninja off the group.=
=C2=A0 His original statement was an insult to all women on the list, and h=
is subsequent "apologies" and posturing=C2=A0indicate that he just Doesn't =
Get It, as has been commented earlier.=C2=A0=20
Making abusive statements and then calling them a joke simply doubles the a=
buse.=C2=A0 Apologies that start I'm sorry and then go on with but... are n=
ot apologies, but indicate a basic lack of respect for the dignity of other=
s and a disgusting self-righteous attitude.=C2=A0=20
Taking ninja off the list would put a stop to this flame war.=20
Louise Rains=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ni...@hanoian.com=20
To: boston-rubygroup@googlegroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:46:21 AM GMT +09:00 Japan=20
Subject: Re: Need More TAs : Ruby on Rails Workshop for Women=20
I think we should take this discussion off the list, because it is not=20
about Rails.=20
Anybody has problem with me, please send e-mail privately to me, or please=
=20
stop spam the list.=20
I am not in the Boston area now, in fact about several thousands miles=20
from Boston. However, any coward who dares to say something to my face,=20
please feel free send a name and a address to my private mail.=20
If there are enough cowards, I might consider to buy an airplane ticket to=
=20
Boston, just to see the cowards cowering in front of me.=20
>=20
>=20
> On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:25 PM, ni...@hanoian.com wrote:=20
>=20
>>=20
>> Michael Breen: Have you got enough?=20
>>=20
>> I already said my apology, so what do you insist on?=20
>=20
> Because "ninja" you didn't just apologize. You tried to justify your=20
> lame joke and then tried calling me a coward.=20
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> If you had just apologized I would have left it at that.=20
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>>=20
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>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:10 PM, ni...@hanoian.com wrote:=20
>>>=20
>>>> And I didn't use any dirty language and didn't have any dirty=20
>>>> implication=20
>>>> about sex or whatsoever in my post.=20
>>>=20
>>> A lack of dirty language or sex does not make your statement any less=
=20
>>> offensive. "Jokes" without dirty language can still make others=20
>>> uncomfortable.=20
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> If some people thinks that they have problem with it, too bad. It is=
=20
>>>> easy=20
>>>> for cowards to hide in insult people over the Internet. That is a=20
>>>> coward=20
>>>> act of coward animals.=20
>>>=20
>>> Not calling you out as a jackass for your insensitive remarks would=20
>>> have been an act of cowardice.=20
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<html><head><style type=3D'text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><=
div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>I woul=
d like to request that the group moderator take ninja off the group. =
His original statement was an insult to all women on the list, and his subs=
equent "apologies" and posturing indicate that he just Doesn't Get It,=
as has been commented earlier. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Making abusive statements and then calling them a joke simply doubles th=
e abuse. Apologies that start I'm sorry and then go on with but... ar=
e not apologies, but indicate a basic lack of respect for the dignity of ot=
hers and a disgusting self-righteous attitude. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Taking ninja off the list would put a stop to this flame war.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Louise Rains</P>
<P> </P>
<P><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: ni...@hanoian.com<BR>To: bosto=
n-rubygroup@googlegroups.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:46:21 A=
M GMT +09:00 Japan<BR>Subject: Re: Need More TAs : Ruby on Rails Workshop f=
or Women<BR><BR><BR>I think we should take this discussion off the list, be=
cause it is not<BR>about Rails.<BR><BR>Anybody has problem with me, please =
send e-mail privately to me, or please<BR>stop spam the list.<BR><BR>I am n=
ot in the Boston area now, in fact about several thousands miles<BR>from Bo=
ston. However, any coward who dares to say something to my face,<BR>please =
feel free send a name and a address to my private mail.<BR><BR>If there are=
enough cowards, I might consider to buy an airplane ticket to<BR>Boston, j=
ust to see the cowards cowering in front of me.<BR><BR>><BR>><BR>>=
On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:25 PM, ni...@hanoian.com wrote:<BR>><BR>>><=
BR>>> Michael Breen: Have you got enough?<BR>>><BR>>> I a=
lready said my apology, so what do you insist on?<BR>><BR>> Because "=
ninja" you didn't just apologize. You tried to justify your<BR>> lame jo=
ke and then tried calling me a coward.<BR>><BR>> If you had just apol=
ogized I would have left it at that.<BR>><BR>><BR>>><BR>>>=
;<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> O=
n Oct 13, 2009, at 1:10 PM, ni...@hanoian.com wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>=
;>>> And I didn't use any dirty language and didn't have any dirty=
<BR>>>>> implication<BR>>>>> about sex or whatsoeve=
r in my post.<BR>>>><BR>>>> A lack of dirty language or s=
ex does not make your statement any less<BR>>>> offensive. "Jokes"=
without dirty language can still make others<BR>>>> uncomfortable=
.<BR>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> If some people th=
inks that they have problem with it, too bad. It is<BR>>>>> eas=
y<BR>>>>> for cowards to hide in insult people over the Interne=
t. That is a<BR>>>>> coward<BR>>>>> act of coward a=
nimals.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Not calling you out as a jackass fo=
r your insensitive remarks would<BR>>>> have been an act of coward=
ice.<BR>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>=
;><BR>>><BR>>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>> ><BR>><BR>=
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></P></div></body></html>
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