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Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:03:10 AM7/19/03
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I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she from
the American Government?
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:14:26 AM7/19/03
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willy schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote:
>
> > Is she from the American Government?
>
>

> http://www.anncoulter.org/bio.html

Thank you willy. I will read it.
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Ramona

willy

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Ramona van Riet wrote:

> Is she from the American Government?


http://www.anncoulter.org/bio.html

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willy


Groan Brakers

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:15:49 AM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:

She's not from the goverment, but she's the best source of info you can find
around on the net. Might wanna read some of her books too. Enlightening
stuff
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Fight hard, protect your own

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:22:01 AM7/19/03
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Groan Brakers schreef:

I am reading the link that willy gave me. Thank you.
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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willy schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote:
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> > Is she from the American Government?
>
>
> http://www.anncoulter.org/bio.html

She looks like a very strong and wise woman. And she looks a little bit
like my older sister Bea.
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Ramona

Groan Brakers

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:31:02 AM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:

She is, I dare say she's about the only one that knows how things are, and
not just how they look.

Otto

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Otto

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Bogdan wrote

> > She looks like a very strong and wise woman.


> Has the definition of "wise" changed lately ?

Oh, how about wise as in ass?

Otto


Bogdan

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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

Has the definition of "wise" changed lately ?

Ramona van Riet

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Bogdan schreef:

Don't you like her? She seems to know a lot about American politics.
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:13:03 AM7/19/03
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Otto schreef:

These links make fun of her. They look very hateful to me. Are they
jealous at her success?
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Ramona

Reid Roman

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:19:08 AM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
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What you will find here (in this Newsgroup) is a whole bunch of liberals who
constantly try to throw mud at her and it does not stick. Why? Because she
tells the facts that she obtained by cold hard research and while telling it
does not hold back on the sarcasm.

They have yet to refute one of the facts in her book in the hundreds, and
hundreds of messages here.

She covers the dems complicity (and the self-anointed intellectuals on
campus) in covering up communist infiltration in the 50's into high level
American government and State Department positions.

She also shows on [every] page what biased media outlets said at the time
against the conservatives and how they were not only wrong, but treasonous
in nature, rooting for the soviet union over the US every time.

She has at least two chapters dedicated to show the pattern in history of
how every time a democrat was in office how they blundered our foreign
policy and cannot be trusted with national security. Keep in mind, not
opinion, facts. Who [by name] said what, how it screwed up, and what the
anti-American liberal press said at the time to support their blunders.


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Groan Brakers

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:18:30 AM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:

>
> These links make fun of her. They look very hateful to me. Are they
> jealous at her success?

They can't handle the truth even when it hits them in the face

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:23:48 AM7/19/03
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Reid Roman schreef:

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> "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
> news:3f19...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >
> > I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
> > talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she
> > from the American Government?
> > --
> > Ramona
>
> What you will find here (in this Newsgroup) is a whole bunch of
> liberals who constantly try to throw mud at her and it does not stick.

Liberals? People like our VVD, or D'66?

> They have yet to refute one of the facts in her book in the hundreds,
> and hundreds of messages here.

What book is that?



> She covers the dems complicity (and the self-anointed intellectuals on
> campus) in covering up communist infiltration in the 50's into high
> level American government and State Department positions.
>
> She also shows on [every] page what biased media outlets said at the
> time against the conservatives and how they were not only wrong, but
> treasonous in nature, rooting for the soviet union over the US every
> time.
>
> She has at least two chapters dedicated to show the pattern in history
> of how every time a democrat was in office how they blundered our
> foreign policy and cannot be trusted with national security. Keep in
> mind, not opinion, facts. Who [by name] said what, how it screwed up,
> and what the anti-American liberal press said at the time to support
> their blunders.
>
>
> --
> Reid Roman
> Future Generation Software
> http://www.fgsoft.com
>
> Disclaimer:
> ------------------------------
> Filtering now in effect. If I
> don't reply, it is because I
> don't see it.


Thank you Reid, for the information. Is that book expensive?
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:24:56 AM7/19/03
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Groan Brakers schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote:
>
> >
> > These links make fun of her. They look very hateful to me. Are they
> > jealous at her success?
>
> They can't handle the truth even when it hits them in the face

I like the line you have where I have "Ramona". You know, under the --. I
have had to fight for myself all my life as well.
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Ramona

Otto

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:23:55 AM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote

> These links make fun of her. They look very hateful to me. Are they
> jealous at her success?

No, they just don't like people who make a living by
spreading hatred and lies.

Otto

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:26:43 AM7/19/03
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Otto schreef:

Tnen why do they do that, and tell such ugly stuff about her, and make
funny faces of her? I think that is not fair. She seems to be a hard
working woman, and one who knows a lot about American politics.
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Ramona

Reid Roman

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:48:24 AM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
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You are right Ramona. And do you see the point I made about how they throw
mud but provide no [facts] of their own to dispute hers? The post you
responded to is a classic example. They just attack the messenger with mud
in hand.

Reid Roman

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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
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> Reid Roman schreef:

> > What you will find here (in this Newsgroup) is a whole bunch of
> > liberals who constantly try to throw mud at her and it does not stick.
>
> Liberals? People like our VVD, or D'66?

Hmm.. Not sure of what you are reffering to here?

> > They have yet to refute one of the facts in her book in the hundreds,
> > and hundreds of messages here.
>
> What book is that?

Her latest is "Treason - Liberal treachery from the cold war to the war on
terrorism".

> Thank you Reid, for the information. Is that book expensive?

No, I think I paid $26.95.

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:54:11 AM7/19/03
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Otto wrote:
> Well, it is time to go and cut my grass.

And remember: don't inhale.

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Otto

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:53:06 AM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote

> > No, they just don't like people who make a living by
> > spreading hatred and lies.
>
> Tnen why do they do that, and tell such ugly stuff about her, and make
> funny faces of her?

Because that really describes what she is:
Had she been born about 100 years or so ago in Germany,
she would have been a leading figure in the NSDAP.

> I think that is not fair.

It is eminently fair.
She is only reaping what she sows.

Otto

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:58:23 AM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in
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>
> Don't you like her? She seems to know a lot about American politics.

How do you come to this conclusion?

Groan Brakers

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:01:34 PM7/19/03
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Reid Roman wrote:

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> "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
> news:3f196333$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Otto schreef:
>>
>> > Ramona van Riet wrote
>> >
>> > > These links make fun of her. They look very hateful to me. Are they
>> > > jealous at her success?
>> >
>> > No, they just don't like people who make a living by
>> > spreading hatred and lies.
>>
>> Tnen why do they do that, and tell such ugly stuff about her, and make
>> funny faces of her? I think that is not fair. She seems to be a hard
>> working woman, and one who knows a lot about American politics.
>
> You are right Ramona. And do you see the point I made about how they
throw
> mud but provide no [facts] of their own to dispute hers? The post you
> responded to is a classic example. They just attack the messenger with
mud
> in hand.
>
>

Yeah, you can't trust those leftists with anything nowadays

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:13:46 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f195409$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

>> She's not from the goverment, but she's the best source of info you can
>> find around on the net. Might wanna read some of her books too.
>> Enlightening stuff
>
> I am reading the link that willy gave me. Thank you.

Hmm, IMO she is the best source on the net if you want to read American
right-wing-extremist nonsense.

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:12:27 PM7/19/03
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"Reid Roman" <re...@fgsoft.com> wrote in
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>> Liberals? People like our VVD, or D'66?
>
> Hmm.. Not sure of what you are reffering to here?

<g>

Both are liberal parties.

The VVD is a traditional conservative-liberal party. D66 is more a left-
liberal.


Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:21:51 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>> >She looks like a very strong and wise woman. And she looks a


>>little >bit like my older sister Bea.
>>
>> Has the definition of "wise" changed lately ?
>
>Don't you like her?

No, I don't. And it's not just because her extreme-right views don't
coincide with mine. Sometimes it seems that she forgets to think
before speaking.

>She seems to know a lot about American politics.

Hitler knew much about German politics. So what ?

Actually, she does not know a lot about politics as she just gives
juvenile answers for world's problems. By some of her affirmations,
it seems that she does not understand even what democracy means.

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:22:10 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha ha detto:

By American standards, all european parties are liberal :-)

--
"If an angry mob comes to the door with pitchforks and torches it's
for me."

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:35:51 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>


>I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
>talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she
>from the American Government?

It seems that the American tabloids and newspapers with right-wing
views liked her violent and controversial speech and, of course, for
her looks.

The funny thing is that even European Neo-Nazi parties have less
violence in their speeches, but in the US, especially after
September 11th, the right-wingers became enraged and xenophobic.

Jim Rowell

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:37:02 PM7/19/03
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"Bogdan" <sp...@dapyx-soft.com> wrote in message
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Actually, you are being rather nice about it. I'd just say that she is a
stark-raving mad lunatic and leave it at that.
There is hardly a single sentence in her writings that is not just plain
idiotic. How do people like this become so famous and accepted in the US??
It boggles the mind (and concerns me a great deal).


Ramona van Riet

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Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:

Hi Bogdan. Are you Italian?



> No, I don't. And it's not just because her extreme-right views don't
> coincide with mine. Sometimes it seems that she forgets to think
> before speaking.

I do that sometimes. My brother always makes fun of me when I do that.

Why is everyone calling her names? Isn't it right what she writes?
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:40:42 PM7/19/03
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Otto schreef:

> Because that really describes what she is:
> Had she been born about 100 years or so ago in Germany,
> she would have been a leading figure in the NSDAP.

Do you mean the Nazis? But she only writes books. And what she writes
looks sensible to me. And I don't think she is so ulgy. Some people seem
to be, what is the word, we say "jaloers", of her success. They don't
like her success.

Are you from Germany, Otto?

> > I think that is not fair.
>
> It is eminently fair.
> She is only reaping what she sows.

I don't understand.
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD] schreef:

> Otto wrote:
> > Well, it is time to go and cut my grass.
>
> And remember: don't inhale.

Hahaha!
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Ramona

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:46:01 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:
> Hahaha!

Is that Dutch laughter?

Ramona van Riet

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Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD] schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote:


> > Hahaha!
>
> Is that Dutch laughter?

Yes, it is. How do you laugh, where you live?
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:48:26 PM7/19/03
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Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>
> >
> >I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
> >talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she
> >from the American Government?
>
> It seems that the American tabloids and newspapers with right-wing
> views liked her violent and controversial speech and, of course, for
> her looks.

I have been reading a bit. It says somewhere she writes about McCarthy.
Isn't that the guy who arrested all these communist spies?



> The funny thing is that even European Neo-Nazi parties have less
> violence in their speeches, but in the US, especially after
> September 11th, the right-wingers became enraged and xenophobic.

I understand that. They don't want terrorism.

I think we must be thankful to the Americans. They saved our country from
the nazis.
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Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Andreas Prucha schreef:

> Hmm, IMO she is the best source on the net if you want to read American
> right-wing-extremist nonsense.

What I read there is not nonsense at all.
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Ramona

Andreas Prucha

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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f197580
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> Why is everyone calling her names?

Because she has two. "Ann" and "Coulter". But most people just call her
name.

> Isn't it right what she writes?

Yes, it is. He wrote that it is right what she writes <g>


Ramona van Riet

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I don't understand.
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Ramona

Michael Warner

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On 19 Jul 2003 07:03:10 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote:

>I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
>talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she from
>the American Government?

No, she's from Anorexia Awareness Society (blonde division).

--
bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:56:34 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:
> > > Hahaha!
> > Is that Dutch laughter?
> Yes, it is. How do you laugh, where you live?

I can't post binaries here, sorry...

Ramona van Riet

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Michael Warner schreef:

> On 19 Jul 2003 07:03:10 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >I have been reading some of the messages here. Everyone seems to be
> >talking about Ann Coulter. I have never heard of her before. Is she
> from >the American Government?
>
> No, she's from Anorexia Awareness Society (blonde division).

Hahaha! She is a bit thin. You are right.
--
Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD] schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote:


> > > > Hahaha!
> > > Is that Dutch laughter?
> > Yes, it is. How do you laugh, where you live?
>
> I can't post binaries here, sorry...

You can't what?
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Ramona

Michael Warner

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On 19 Jul 2003 09:48:26 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote:

>I think we must be thankful to the Americans. They saved our country from
>the nazis.

But who's going to save it from the Americans? :-)

Groan Brakers

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Jul 19, 2003, 1:14:33 PM7/19/03
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Michael Warner wrote:

> On 19 Jul 2003 09:48:26 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl>
wrote:
>
>>I think we must be thankful to the Americans. They saved our country from
>>the nazis.
>
> But who's going to save it from the Americans? :-)
>

You saying the other countries need saving from the USA?
They single handedly saved a lot of countries and are still doing it as we
speak

Ramona van Riet

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Michael Warner schreef:

> On 19 Jul 2003 09:56:48 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >Hahaha!
>
> You laugh like Werner Klemperer.

Like who? How do you laugh, in English?
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Ramona

Michael Warner

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Jul 19, 2003, 1:13:04 PM7/19/03
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On 19 Jul 2003 09:56:48 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote:

>Hahaha!

You laugh like Werner Klemperer.

--

Ramona van Riet

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Michael Warner schreef:

> On 19 Jul 2003 09:48:26 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >I think we must be thankful to the Americans. They saved our country
> from >the nazis.
>
> But who's going to save it from the Americans? :-)

Hahaha! In summer, se see a lot of them. But most of the tourists are fat
Germans.
--
Ramona

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 1:48:23 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote:
> > > > > Hahaha!
> > > > Is that Dutch laughter?
> > > Yes, it is. How do you laugh, where you live?
> >
> > I can't post binaries here, sorry...
>
> You can't what?

Yeah, that too.

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:03:48 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>Bogdan schreef:
>
>> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>
>Hi Bogdan. Are you Italian?
>

No. Romanian. But I just wanted something different.

>> No, I don't. And it's not just because her extreme-right views
>>don't coincide with mine. Sometimes it seems that she forgets to
>>think before speaking.
>
>I do that sometimes. My brother always makes fun of me when I do
>that.
>

:-)

>Why is everyone calling her name? Isn't it right what she writes?

Some to make fun of her and the Republicans, some because really
believe what she said.

About being right, in politics it is hard of saying what is good or
bad. But her views are... well off.

Otto

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:05:08 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet wrote

> Do you mean the Nazis?

Bingo!

> But she only writes books.

and speaks. As did Adolf.
I can divulge the title of her next book with the utmost confidence.
It will be called "My Battle". <eg>

> And what she writes looks sensible to me.

I had to look at her latest column, and yes, it is very moderate
for her. Oh my, she even quotes Democrats to support her point
of view!
I however can't see much that is sensible there and the action
she quotes (internment of US citizens of Japanese) struck me
always as utterly wrong, inspired by hysteria of the kind she is
wipping up.

> And I don't think she is so ulgy.

Sure, she looks quite decent, as long she keeps her mouth shut.

> Some people ..... don't like her success.

because her success is a sad sign of what is going on in the US.

> Are you from Germany, Otto?

Sure, check here:

You can even have our picture there, several people
here will be Remarkably eageR to see it, I suspect!

> I don't understand.

Anne coulter gets at times attacked in the manner she attacks others.


Otto


Michael Warner

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:00:28 PM7/19/03
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On 19 Jul 2003 10:18:14 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote:

>Like who? How do you laugh, in English?

<tries it>

I laugh like Remy Lebeau.

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:09:47 PM7/19/03
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Otto wrote:
> I can divulge the title of her next book with the utmost confidence.
> It will be called "My Battle". <eg>
>
ROFL!

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:13:47 PM7/19/03
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Michael Warner schreef:

> On 19 Jul 2003 10:18:14 -0700, "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >Like who? How do you laugh, in English?
>
> <tries it>
>
> I laugh like Remy Lebeau.

Who is Remy Lebeau? Is that the boy from the little Lord?
--
Ramona

Michael Warner

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:05:08 -0500, "Otto" <oba...@mn.rr.com> wrote:

>It will be called "My Battle". <eg>

Or "I'm Camp", if she's a bad translator :-)

--

Andreas Prucha

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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f198bdd$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> I think she is a bit "rabiaat", but that is OK. She wants people to here
> her.

Where her? <g>

Ramona van Riet

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Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>

> >Bogdan schreef:


> >
> >I have been reading a bit. It says somewhere she writes about
> >McCarthy. Isn't that the guy who arrested all these communist
> >spies?
>

> The witch-hunt ?

I think they were communists, not witches.

> When innocent people that had a leftist opinion were considered
> communists or Russian spies and blacklisted ?

I think there were much spies fomr the KGB there.



> >> The funny thing is that even European Neo-Nazi parties have less
> >> violence in their speeches, but in the US, especially after
> >> September 11th, the right-wingers became enraged and xenophobic.
> >
> >I understand that. They don't want terrorism.
>

> But they never thought that their external policy makes them hated
> around the world.

I don't think they are hated. Except by the terrorist countries of course.
--
Ramona

Bogdan

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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>Bogdan schreef:


>
>I have been reading a bit. It says somewhere she writes about
>McCarthy. Isn't that the guy who arrested all these communist
>spies?

The witch-hunt ?

When innocent people that had a leftist opinion were considered
communists or Russian spies and blacklisted ?

>> The funny thing is that even European Neo-Nazi parties have less


>> violence in their speeches, but in the US, especially after
>> September 11th, the right-wingers became enraged and xenophobic.
>
>I understand that. They don't want terrorism.

But they never thought that their external policy makes them hated
around the world.

--
- I don't sign parts of the body, even if they're still attached.
From PTerry's Rules of Book Signing

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:20:13 PM7/19/03
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Otto schreef:

> Ramona van Riet wrote
>
> > Do you mean the Nazis?
>
> Bingo!
>
> > But she only writes books.
>
> and speaks. As did Adolf.
> I can divulge the title of her next book with the utmost confidence.
> It will be called "My Battle". <eg>

Did you mean "Mein Kampf"? I don't like Hitler.



> > And what she writes looks sensible to me.
>
> I had to look at her latest column, and yes, it is very moderate
> for her. Oh my, she even quotes Democrats to support her point
> of view!
> I however can't see much that is sensible there and the action
> she quotes (internment of US citizens of Japanese) struck me
> always as utterly wrong, inspired by hysteria of the kind she is
> wipping up.
>
> > And I don't think she is so ulgy.
>
> Sure, she looks quite decent, as long she keeps her mouth shut.
>
> > Some people ..... don't like her success.
>
> because her success is a sad sign of what is going on in the US.
>
> > Are you from Germany, Otto?
>
> Sure, check here:
> bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo/index.html

Oh, I see many people from here. So you live in America? That's nice!



> You can even have our picture there, several people
> here will be Remarkably eageR to see it, I suspect!
>
> > I don't understand.
>
> Anne coulter gets at times attacked in the manner she attacks others.

I think she is a bit "rabiaat", but that is OK. She wants people to here
her.
--
Ramona

John Wester [Group W]

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:29:59 PM7/19/03
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In article <ib2jhvcmr28hth15v...@4ax.com>,
m...@ozemail.com.au says...

>On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:05:08 -0500, "Otto" <oba...@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>It will be called "My Battle". <eg>
>
>Or "I'm Camp", if she's a bad translator :-)
>
>
That'd be RobC, no?
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary components.

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:27:50 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f196284
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> Liberals? People like our VVD, or D'66?

It's unfair to ask him such quesitons.


Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:29:44 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in
news:3f19...@newsgroups.borland.com:

>
> I don't think they are hated. Except by the terrorist countries of
> course.

So only Eliv's axle hates him?


Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:28:22 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha schreef:

Sorry, Andrea, but I sometimes make mistakes when writing. I think it was
not polite to talk about that. You understood me good enough.
--
Ramona

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:32:58 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>Sorry, Andrea, but I sometimes make mistakes when writing. I think


>it was not polite to talk about that. You understood me good enough.

Andreas :-)

--
An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
An onion a day keeps everyone away

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:34:20 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha schreef:

Sorry?
--
Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:36:44 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha schreef:

I don't understand that, sorry. Are you making fun of me?
--
Ramona

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:38:21 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>> >I have been reading a bit. It says somewhere she writes about


>> >McCarthy. Isn't that the guy who arrested all these communist
>> >spies?
>>
>> The witch-hunt ?
>
>I think they were communists, not witches.
>

Yes, but that's a metaphor. :-)

>> When innocent people that had a leftist opinion were considered
>> communists or Russian spies and blacklisted ?
>
>I think there were much spies fomr the KGB there.
>

Yes, maybe some spies were caught, but is it fair pestering the
innocent citizens for their views ? What about the liberty written in
their constitution ?

>>
>> But they never thought that their external policy makes them
>>hated around the world.
>
>I don't think they are hated. Except by the terrorist countries of
>course.

I don't like the American external policy. That makes me a terrorist
and my country a terrorist country ?

--
All generalizations are false, including this one.

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:39:57 PM7/19/03
to
Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>
> >Sorry, Andrea, but I sometimes make mistakes when writing. I think
> >it was not polite to talk about that. You understood me good enough.
>
> Andreas :-)

He called me Ramuano, or something like that. It is not very polite to
call people names.
--
Ramona

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:46:29 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f199131
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> Every time I ask you some thing, you say some thing I don't understand.
> You taked about Eliv's axels. What's that?

Elvi's axle is Elvi's axle, not the axle of a camel.

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:40:32 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f198fbc$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> I don't understand that, sorry. Are you making fun of me?

Please explain why you think that I'm making fun of you.


Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:49:29 PM7/19/03
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"Rudy Velthuis" <rvel...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:3f1991ce$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> I think it would become "Mine Camp". <g>

And could you please remove your X-face entry. It hurts when I look at it.

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:42:57 PM7/19/03
to
Andreas Prucha schreef:

Every time I ask you some thing, you say some thing I don't understand.


You taked about Eliv's axels. What's that?

--
Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:41:22 PM7/19/03
to
Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>
> >> >I have been reading a bit. It says somewhere she writes about
> >> >McCarthy. Isn't that the guy who arrested all these communist
> >> >spies?
> >>
> >> The witch-hunt ?
> >
> >I think they were communists, not witches.
> >
>
> Yes, but that's a metaphor. :-)

Oh, sorry, I didn't know.



> >> When innocent people that had a leftist opinion were considered
> >> communists or Russian spies and blacklisted ?
> >
> >I think there were much spies fomr the KGB there.
> >
>
> Yes, maybe some spies were caught, but is it fair pestering the
> innocent citizens for their views ? What about the liberty written in
> their constitution ?
>
> >>
> >> But they never thought that their external policy makes them
> >>hated around the world.
> >
> >I don't think they are hated. Except by the terrorist countries of
> >course.
>
> I don't like the American external policy. That makes me a terrorist
> and my country a terrorist country ?

No, I never said that.
--
Ramona

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:45:58 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>Andreas Prucha schreef:

that's a misspelling of "Evil axe". GWBush used this term to define
the "terrorist countries" :-)


--
"To iterate is human, to recurse, divine."

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:48:04 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>> >> But they never thought that their external policy makes them


>> >>hated around the world.
>> >
>> >I don't think they are hated. Except by the terrorist countries
>>of >course.
>>
>> I don't like the American external policy. That makes me a
>>terrorist and my country a terrorist country ?
>
>No, I never said that.

Well, you should know that there are some countries where the
American imperial policy "either you're with us and agree with
everything we say or you're against us and you're a terrorist".

--
People who deal with bits should expect to get bitten.

Rudy Velthuis

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:45:34 PM7/19/03
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Michael Warner wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:05:08 -0500, "Otto" <oba...@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >It will be called "My Battle". <eg>
>
> Or "I'm Camp", if she's a bad translator :-)

I think it would become "Mine Camp". <g>
--
Rudy Velthuis

This group exists as a runoff for unwanted posts in the technical groups.
Enforcement of rules is deliberately minimal but Borland reserves the
right to cancel posts at any time, for any reason, without notice.

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:49:03 PM7/19/03
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Bogdan schreef:

Oh, sorry. Do you think Andreas misspelled that on purpose?
--
Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:53:26 PM7/19/03
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Bogdan schreef:

That is a bit too much, but I think we must fight terrorists. We had a
lot of terrorists in the Netherlands, from the Molukken.
--
Ramona

Yoerdes

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:54:30 PM7/19/03
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He, said "Sorry".
Ever considered that this might have been a typo as well?

Yoerdes

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:57:39 PM7/19/03
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Rudy Velthuis ha detto:

>Of course not. That's me, like I am. <g>

Maybe some of us like you, but not your X-face. :-)

--
"Violence is the last resort of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:55:25 PM7/19/03
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Ramona van Riet ha detto:

>> >


>> >No, I never said that.
>>
>> Well, you should know that there are some countries where the
>> American imperial policy "either you're with us and agree with
>> everything we say or you're against us and you're a terrorist".
>
>That is a bit too much, but I think we must fight terrorists. We
>had a lot of terrorists in the Netherlands, from the Molukken.

Terrorist Mollusks ? :-)

--
"Whenever you find yourself on the side
of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

Bogdan

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:52:54 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha ha detto:

I agree!

--
A pig in Thailand says "oot-oot."

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:52:43 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f19929f$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> Oh, sorry. Do you think Andreas misspelled that on purpose?

I did not misspell it. Bush did. However, there is no evidence that he
misspelled it on purpose.

Rudy Velthuis

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Jul 19, 2003, 2:55:48 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha wrote:

Of course not. That's me, like I am. <g>

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:04:33 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f198f2c$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

Do you think that the VVD-people are communists?

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:01:04 PM7/19/03
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"Rudy Velthuis" <rvel...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:3f199434$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> Of course not. That's me, like I am. <g>

I already noticed it <g>


Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:00:42 PM7/19/03
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Yoerdes schreef:

> He, said "Sorry".

Yes, that is why I am still talking to him. I even tried in German.

> Ever considered that this might have been a typo as well?

Do you mean a misspelling?
--
Ramona

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:06:08 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha schreef:

I think you mean President Bush, from America? I think people should not
always put him down for how he speaks. People from Limburg in the
Netherlands also speak very funny, a little bit like French. And I don't
even understand people from Friesland.

And he is a President. I think it is very unrespectfull to talk about a
President like that. I would not like people that they speak like that
about Queen Beatrix.

My sister is also called Beatrix, because our parents loved the Princess
when she was small.
--
Ramona

Geoff

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:05:23 PM7/19/03
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"Andreas Prucha" <pru...@helicon.co.at> wrote in message
news:Xns93BDD39407BEE...@helicon.co.at...

British intelligence indicated that was how it was supposed to be spelled.
He was merely repeating the misspelling. The president is not a fact
checker!


John Wester [Group W]

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:09:19 PM7/19/03
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In article <Xns93BDD595A3FC3...@helicon.co.at>,
pru...@helicon.co.at says...
Now, just people with STD
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary components.

Geoff

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:07:47 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
news:3f19...@newsgroups.borland.com...

Look, things would be a lot simpler if you had a simple name. Like Sally.
And van Reit sounds very stuffy. So, how about Smith?

Sally Smith is a damn fine name, if you ask me...


Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:07:39 PM7/19/03
to
Bogdan schreef:

> Ramona van Riet ha detto:
>
> >> >
> >> >No, I never said that.
> >>
> >> Well, you should know that there are some countries where the
> >> American imperial policy "either you're with us and agree with
> >> everything we say or you're against us and you're a terrorist".
> >
> >That is a bit too much, but I think we must fight terrorists. We
> >had a lot of terrorists in the Netherlands, from the Molukken.
>
> Terrorist Mollusks ? :-)

Yes. They hostaged a kindergarten and a train, and they killed a man.
Don't put a smile, that was not funny.
--
Ramona

Yoerdes

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:10:09 PM7/19/03
to
Ramona van Riet wrote:
> Yoerdes schreef:
>>Ever considered that this might have been a typo as well?
>
>
> Do you mean a misspelling?

Sorry for the other post.
Yes, I mean a misspelling, but an unintended one.

Yoerdes


Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:14:42 PM7/19/03
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Andreas Prucha schreef:

> "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f198f2c$1
> @newsgroups.borland.com:
>
> > Andreas Prucha schreef:
> >
> >> "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f196284
> >> @newsgroups.borland.com:
> >>
> >> > Liberals? People like our VVD, or D'66?
> >>
> >> It's unfair to ask him such quesitons.
> >
> > Sorry?
>
> Do you think that the VVD-people are communists?

No, of course not. They are capitalists. The VVD is for the rich people,
I think. I liked Pim Fortuyn, but then this guy shot him. He got 18
years, but that is not enough for such people.
--
Ramona

Geoff

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:14:39 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in message
news:3f1996a0$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Andreas Prucha schreef:
>
> > "Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f19929f$1
> > @newsgroups.borland.com:
> >
> > > Oh, sorry. Do you think Andreas misspelled that on purpose?
> >
> > I did not misspell it. Bush did. However, there is no evidence that he
> > misspelled it on purpose.
>
> I think you mean President Bush, from America?

No - from Polywog.


>I think people should not
> always put him down for how he speaks. People from Limburg in the
> Netherlands also speak very funny, a little bit like French. And I don't
> even understand people from Friesland.

Ah yes, but the Frieslanders have genetically defective tongues. And
they're a boon to biotech companies involved in genetic research because of
it.

> And he is a President. I think it is very unrespectfull to talk about a
> President like that. I would not like people that they speak like that
> about Queen Beatrix.

I agree. I hate it when people aren't respectful. But Beatrix seriously
needs a new name. Something a little more snappy and commanding. How about
"Max". Or better yet, "Mad Max"? Queen Mad Max - who would mess with her?

Not I, little sailor boy, not I indeed...


> My sister is also called Beatrix, because our parents loved the Princess
> when she was small.

But then she got all large and breasty. Happens to the best of little
girls... <sigh>

Geofferina

Ramona van Riet

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:12:59 PM7/19/03
to
Geoff schreef:

> > Do you mean a misspelling?
>
> Look, things would be a lot simpler if you had a simple name. Like
> Sally. And van Reit sounds very stuffy. So, how about Smith?

I don't think making fun of my name is funny. When I was small, people
used to call me "van Reet" (from arshole).



> Sally Smith is a damn fine name, if you ask me...

I love my name.
--
Ramona

Rudy Velthuis

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:16:36 PM7/19/03
to
Bogdan wrote:

> Rudy Velthuis ha detto:
>
> >Andreas Prucha wrote:
> >
> >> "Rudy Velthuis" <rvel...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:3f1991ce$1
> >> @newsgroups.borland.com:
> >>
> >> > I think it would become "Mine Camp". <g>
> >>
> >> And could you please remove your X-face entry. It hurts when I
> >>look at it.
> >
> >Of course not. That's me, like I am. <g>
>
> Maybe some of us like you, but not your X-face. :-)

Willy gave it to me, and I am very grateful for it.

Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:20:25 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f1998a2
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> I liked Pim Fortuyn,

Now that's a big surprise <g>


Andreas Prucha

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:23:53 PM7/19/03
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"Ramona van Riet" <ram...@hotmail.nl> wrote in news:3f1998a2
@newsgroups.borland.com:

> No, of course not. They are capitalists. The VVD is for the rich people,

If they are capitalists, Reid would not understand why you ask if the
people here are D66 or VDD-style liberals. Read Coulter's books. Then you
will learn that liberals are communists :-)

Ken de Camargo Jr. [*TTFKAD]

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:24:02 PM7/19/03
to
Geoff wrote:
> > I did not misspell it. Bush did. However, there is no evidence that
> > he misspelled it on purpose.
>
> British intelligence indicated that was how it was supposed to be
> spelled. He was merely repeating the misspelling. The president is
> not a fact checker!

ROFLMBO!

--
Ken [*The Team Formerly Known As D]
MoNBH/MDNPEI
http://planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/
"Knowledge is just opinion you trust enough to act upon"
Orson Scott Card

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